KotCS James Rollins novelization

[walker]

Hi all
Just did an updated search on Amazon to see what new info might be listed for upcoming Indy literature. Some pretty cool stuff. I'll save the best until last.

The Complete Making of Indiana Jones
By J.W. Rinzler and Laurent Bouzereau
Paperback: 288 pages
Publisher: Del Rey (May 20, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0345501292

Indiana Jones Heroes and Villains Sticker Book
Reading level: Ages 9-12
Paperback: 16 pages
Publisher: DK CHILDREN (March 31, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0756634997

Indiana Jones Golden Treasure Sticker Book
Reading level: Ages 9-12
Paperback: 16 pages
Publisher: DK CHILDREN (March 31, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0756634989

AND THE REALLY COOL ITEM:

Indiana Jones IV Movie Tie-in
By James Rollins
Audio CD
Publisher: RH Audio; Unabridged edition (May 20, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0739358987

The version listed is an audio book, but the actual book is already listed on the Amazon UK site. Here are the details:

Indiana Jones IV Movie Tie-In (Hardcover)
by James Rollins (Author)
Hardcover: 400 pages
Publisher: Del Rey Books (20 May 2008)
Language English
ISBN-10: 0345501284

It was a no-brainer that they were going to do a movie tie-in. So why is this such a big deal? Two reasons: James Rollins is the real deal - a bestselling author who writes excellent books that are very much in the Indiana Jones vein. Rollins is a great choice - it's almost like hiring Clive Cussler. I'm amazed Lucasfilm is shelling out the bucks to get him on board. The second reason is that this tie-in is a HARDCOVER! No mass market paperback for this film. Great news.

Looks like they're pulling out all the stops to ensure that the merchandising for Indy 4 is bigger and better than it has been for the previous films. Good times ahead....

walker

[Gobi-1]

Very cool. I'm really excited about the Complete Making of Indiana Jones.

[Moedred]

Indiana Jones Golden Treasure Sticker Book
I had a hunch the macguffin would be a golden treasure, or a golden treasure sticker.

[walker]

I contacted James Rollins through his web site to confirm everything posted on Amazon. Here is his response (which, quite honestly, I wasn't expecting to get):


From: [email]RollinsJ
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:28 PM
To: Sexton, Phil
Subject: Re: No Subject

Yep, I'm doing the Indiana Jones tie-in novelization. It's been fun to write. I've loved the movies (as you might suspect from my novels). So to be able to write internal monologue and go intimately on this journey with Indy is a blast.

Jim

[Ohio Jones]

Wow, so the tie-in will be hardcover? Nice.

I'd love to see a 'Visual guide' ala 'Star Wars' at some point too, but 'The complete making of Indiana Jones' should be neat. I can't enough of that kind of stuff.

[Moedred]

Mr. Rollins sounds like a real pro! He probably has the inside track to the script and script changes. I hope he incorporates not just the soon-to-be deleted scenes Lucas will never show us, but all the other tangents considered for the story.

[Indy's Fist]

I'm surprised they keep making book tie-ins of movies. Same with comic adaptations. I mean back in then 70's 7 80's we had to wait years to see the movies again. Nowdays though we get a fully loaded DVD withing just a few months of the actual film's release.

[fortuneandglory]

Hi all
Just did an updated search on Amazon to see what new info might be listed for upcoming Indy literature. Some pretty cool stuff. I'll save the best until last.

The Complete Making of Indiana Jones
By J.W. Rinzler and Laurent Bouzereau
Paperback: 288 pages
Publisher: Del Rey (May 20, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0345501292

Indiana Jones Heroes and Villains Sticker Book
Reading level: Ages 9-12
Paperback: 16 pages
Publisher: DK CHILDREN (March 31, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0756634997

Indiana Jones Golden Treasure Sticker Book
Reading level: Ages 9-12
Paperback: 16 pages
Publisher: DK CHILDREN (March 31, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0756634989

AND THE REALLY COOL ITEM:

Indiana Jones IV Movie Tie-in
By James Rollins
Audio CD
Publisher: RH Audio; Unabridged edition (May 20, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0739358987

The version listed is an audio book, but the actual book is already listed on the Amazon UK site. Here are the details:

Indiana Jones IV Movie Tie-In (Hardcover)
by James Rollins (Author)
Hardcover: 400 pages
Publisher: Del Rey Books (20 May 2008)
Language English
ISBN-10: 0345501284

It was a no-brainer that they were going to do a movie tie-in. So why is this such a big deal? Two reasons: James Rollins is the real deal - a bestselling author who writes excellent books that are very much in the Indiana Jones vein. Rollins is a great choice - it's almost like hiring Clive Cussler. I'm amazed Lucasfilm is shelling out the bucks to get him on board. The second reason is that this tie-in is a HARDCOVER! No mass market paperback for this film. Great news.

Looks like they're pulling out all the stops to ensure that the merchandising for Indy 4 is bigger and better than it has been for the previous films. Good times ahead....

walker

Wow, sounds good! Looks like a new age of Indy!

My Christmas next year is going to be ALL Indy stuff...

[Michael24]

The Complete Making of Indiana Jones
By J.W. Rinzler and Laurent Bouzereau
Paperback: 288 pages
Publisher: Del Rey (May 20, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0345501292


I'm assuming this will cover the entire series? I know Rinzler's STAR WARS books are being done installments (still need to pick up the NEW HOPE one that's now out) and figured the same would be done for the Indy movies.

[Jones Junkie]

Sounds great, especially The Complete Making Of Indiana Jones.

[Violet Indy]

My 20th next year is going to be pretty awesome... Indy stuff and the Olympics in Beijing all on the same day! I better have dinner at the Lost City to make my night complete.

[indy34]

Sounds pritty good but i doubt i will buy it

[Ska]

James Rollins!!!

Sorry, I'm about a month late in replying in this thread. But after I read that James Rollins is doing the novelizations I had to post.

He, by far, is my favorite author. I picked up Excavation at a used book store a few years ago, and I've been hooked ever since.

His line about being able to tell he's an Indy fan put a smile on my face. For most of his books, you could easily see Indy in the locations...especially in Excavation and Sandstorm, which are more archeologically-related.

...although I agree that Matthew Reilly would have been great also...Temple and 7 Deadly Wonders are great reads. I based my fan film off of Temple... www.skabatula.150m.com.

[Canyon]

Hey, it looks as if some of the covers have started to come up on Amazon.com/uk :D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516q43jcmAL._SS500_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YznwPfnUL._SS500_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51nCZ3i10DL._SS500_.jpg


Happy DR:D :D LING girls! :up:

[Blackadder]

Think im gonna buy The Making of all this.

[fatima]

Impressive books!!!! but will they be available only at Amazon, or can we get them on the shops?

[metalinvader]

Impressive books!!!! but will they be available only at Amazon, or can we get them on the shops?


All of the new books should be at bookshops within the next 4-5 months!:up:

[Blackadder]

I wish that Wolfgang Hohlbein's books were translated to english.

[DoomsdayFAN]

Hi all
Just did an updated search on Amazon to see what new info might be listed for upcoming Indy literature. Some pretty cool stuff. I'll save the best until last.

The Complete Making of Indiana Jones
By J.W. Rinzler and Laurent Bouzereau
Paperback: 288 pages
Publisher: Del Rey (May 20, 2008)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0345501292

Indiana Jones IV Movie Tie-In (Hardcover)
by James Rollins (Author)
Hardcover: 400 pages
Publisher: Del Rey Books (20 May 2008)
Language English
ISBN-10: 0345501284

It was a no-brainer that they were going to do a movie tie-in. So why is this such a big deal? Two reasons: James Rollins is the real deal - a bestselling author who writes excellent books that are very much in the Indiana Jones vein. Rollins is a great choice - it's almost like hiring Clive Cussler. I'm amazed Lucasfilm is shelling out the bucks to get him on board. The second reason is that this tie-in is a HARDCOVER! No mass market paperback for this film. Great news.

Looks like they're pulling out all the stops to ensure that the merchandising for Indy 4 is bigger and better than it has been for the previous films. Good times ahead....

walker


I will be buying both of these. The movie tie in novel Hardcover... will probably sell at B&N for $39.99 :down:

And the complete making will probably sell for $35.99 :down:


Oh well, its only Money.

[DoomsdayFAN]

For that matter... Any word on the official price?

[Edward The Head]

I will be buying both of these. The movie tie in novel Hardcover... will probably sell at B&N for $39.99 :down:

And the complete making will probably sell for $35.99 :down:


I don't think they will sell for that much. Even the new Harry Potter wasn't that much. I don't know what hardcover means as I can't think of any movie tie-ins that are hardcover, but I don't buy them nor keep up with them. I would think they would be in the 10-15 range.

[metalinvader]

Over at Barnsandnoble.com you can preoder both books

Complete making of is only 29 bucks..
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780345501295&itm=31

While the hardcover book is a little over 20 bucks..
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780345501288&itm=46

[DoomsdayFAN]

I own an original Hardcover "Raiders of the Lost Ark" novel... as well as the Softcover Novel. They are the EXACT SAME. Its just that the hardcover is bigger.


I would be shocked if I wasnt forced to shell out at least $29.99 for the hardcover tie in novel.

[DoomsdayFAN]

Over at Barnsandnoble.com you can preoder both books

Complete making of is only 29 bucks..
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780345501295&itm=31

While the hardcover book is a little over 20 bucks..
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780345501288&itm=46

I am shocked... :dead:

But it is GREAT news!!!

[Violet Indy]

Hey, it looks as if some of the covers have started to come up on Amazon.com/uk :D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516q43jcmAL._SS500_.jpg


Happy DR:D :D LING girls! :up:


Hey guys, which film is that shot from? The top left square. Is it Forrestal, coz it looks kinda weird?

[Attila the Professor]

Hey guys, which film is that shot from? The top left square. Is it Forrestal, coz it looks kinda weird?

I've got 95% certainty on that one, yeah. Forrestal.

[Little Indy]

Yeah thats it, that's where Forrestal cashed in.

[Edward The Head]

Those are some expensive books. Much more then I expected, and more then I really want to pay. I'm also surprised that they are coming out with a hardcover tie in, but then I don't keep up with books like that.

[Dr. HenryJones.jr]

if pre-order is little expensive of the prize, better first release date come from one day later with normal price to amazon.com... I will to order all ;)
and I think, new Indy novel, no?? *sighs* I have read all books... Indy must to be here.

[DoomsdayFAN]

I cant wait! I'll get the Book, the soundtrack, then go see the actual movie. Then come home and start reading the book and listening to the soundtrack.:gun: :whip:

[Little Indy]

I cant wait! I'll get the Book, the soundtrack, then go see the actual movie. Then come home and start reading the book and listening to the soundtrack.:gun: :whip:

Or if you really want to go "Indy" you could get the gear, dress up as Indy, wait for the DVD watch the DVD, while reading along with the book, and synchronizing the soundtrack to play at the same time the DVD soundtrack plays.:p

[DoomsdayFAN]

Lol. I've thought about buying the hat and coat. But I fear it would cost BIG money. Otherwise, I'd do it.

[walker]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Indiana-Jones-Kingdom-Crystal-Skull/dp/009192667X/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200339911&sr=1-6

If you're interested, the above link takes you to the cover of the UK edition of the novelization of IJ and the KOTCS. Not sure if this will be the US cover or not. Personally I'd prefer the Drew Struzan painting...
walker

[Indy's Fist]

Yeah, thats kind of a yawn.

[yodazone]

The "hat and whip only" cover images are real boring.

Why hide Indy's face??? Why all the mystery marketing after 3 movies and 19 year wait???

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[metalinvader]

*Yaaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnnn*

Are we sure that this is the final cover?
(God,I really hope it isn't)

[Bjorn Heimdall]

we would like it if we hadn't seen this image so often.

[DoomsdayFAN]

I think its cool. It leaves A LOT up to the imagination. Makes it even more mysterious.

[metalinvader]

we would like it if we hadn't seen this image so often.

I still wouldn't.All of the other novelizations had poster art.With the beautiful teaser poster out now it makes me scratch my head wondering why they didn't use that.

[No Ticket]

I've never liked the crate with a hat on it. Looks boring to me... on the official site anyway. It was ok before the production on the movie was this far along and they just needed SOMETHING, which is what I thought it was. But now we should be getting more than that.

[ResidentAlien]

Come on, guys. The book will likely have the movie poster on it like all the other Indy novelizations. It ain't official until it's in your hands. That's just a temp image, I'd be willing to bet. Maybe the cover will even be reversible like some DVD covers...


Any rate, they're not going to leak the final poster yet so of course they're just using a temp image.

[No Ticket]

Come on, guys. The book will likely have the movie poster on it like all the other Indy novelizations. It ain't official until it's in your hands. That's just a temp image, I'd be willing to bet. Maybe the cover will even be reversible like some DVD covers...


Any rate, they're not going to leak the final poster yet so of course they're just using a temp image.

I thought that too, and I hope that you're right.

[Dr.Sartorius]

You were right, ResidentAlien:

http://starwars.com/community/news/films/img/20080130_novel_bg.jpg

http://starwars.com/community/news/films/img/20080130_novel_bg.jpg

....And Jeff Nathanson finally gets story credit...

[No Ticket]

I was just about to post that cover image. lol. Yup. Looks like they used the teaser poster.

What is WITH KOTCS? All we've gotten is this one poster, no trailer... no word hardly on it but with what sounds like a crapload of marketing ready to go.

I'm all confused. Shouldn't there be more KOTCS marketing going round by now?

[Violet Indy]

I must say though, even in the spoilers section, we don't really know very much, which is quite amazing. Spielberg really did do a decent job of keeping things pretty quiet. Even with media coverage in magazines so far, nothing has been given away so much. Just hinted at really. But still, I love the cover being the teaser poster. Makes up for the one with Mutt and the Indy silhouette (which I quite like as it reminds me of the shot in Raiders, where Marion turns around and you see Indy's shadow entering the room on the wall behind her, I love that shot).

[ResidentAlien]

You were right, ResidentAlien:

http://starwars.com/community/news/films/img/20080130_novel_bg.jpg

http://starwars.com/community/news/films/img/20080130_novel_bg.jpg

....And Jeff Nathanson finally gets story credit...


I was only half-right...


...wonder where the final poster is! Getting a wee-bit anxious for it.

[Mutt]

....And Jeff Nathanson finally gets story credit...

This is Frank Darabont who will not be happy ! :p

[Andy Jones]

I wish that Wolfgang Hohlbein's books were translated to english.

Agreed. Hopefully they'll consider this with the success of the film.

[Andy Jones]

Hopefully the UK edition will have the teaser poster as well.

[otto rahn]

What is the general consensus on the choice of James Rollins to pen the novel adaption of "Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull" ? Does he seem like the "right" choice ? I have a number of his books but (as usual) haven't got around to reading any of them yet.

[Adamwankenobi]

What is the general consensus on the choice of James Rollins to pen the novel adaption of "Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull" ? Does he seem like the "right" choice ? I have a number of his books but (as usual) haven't got around to reading any of them yet.

His wikipedia entry convinced me of his worthyness. :)

[Arab Swordsman]

What is the general consensus on the choice of James Rollins to pen the novel adaption of "Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull" ? Does he seem like the "right" choice ? I have a number of his books but (as usual) haven't got around to reading any of them yet.

I would say he's a good pick. I enjoy his books if I'm looking for a good action read. His writing style is pretty straight forward and you don't get too much character depth but just enough to push the story. I would say right now he's probably the hottest action writer out there and would do the Indy novel justice.

[JerryKing]

So, Dr Czajkowski got the Indy gig! :D

Not a bad choice at all, though in all honesty I would probably prefer Alan Dean Foster or Max Allan Collins. (And I can't help but wonder how an Indy novel by Lincoln Child & Douglas Preston would turn out... at least if they wrote it in their classic style, without the lazy magic that has dulled their later works)

Hopefully, though, it's not signifying a change in Lucasarts' policies regarding writers' selection - because if they began basing their choices on "how many copies did X sell?", then, knock on wood, one day someone there might actually think of giving away Indy's name to be tainted by some antitallented, worthless cretin such as that plagiarist responsible for "Star Wars: Episode Medieval", better known as "Eragon"... or even - shudder - that parasite whose name I wish I could forget, "Matthew Reilly"... :sick:

[Andy Jones]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Indiana-Jones-Novel-James-Rollins/dp/0091926769/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1202135974&sr=1-28

Anyone know anything about this?

Indiana Jones: Novel 2 (Paperback)
by James Rollins (Author)

Product details

Paperback: 400 pages
Publisher: Ebury Press (2 Oct 2008)
ISBN-10: 0091926769
ISBN-13: 978-0091926762

Could Rollins have been asked to write an original Indy novel as well as the novelisation?

[Mutt]

Maybe the novelisation of the upcoming "Indiana Jones 2008" video game ?

[Dr.Sartorius]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Indiana-Jones-Novel-James-Rollins/dp/0091926769/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1202135974&sr=1-28

Anyone know anything about this?

Indiana Jones: Novel 2 (Paperback)
by James Rollins (Author)

Product details

Paperback: 400 pages
Publisher: Ebury Press (2 Oct 2008)
ISBN-10: 0091926769
ISBN-13: 978-0091926762

Could Rollins have been asked to write an original Indy novel as well as the novelisation?

Most likely a paperback version of Indy 4.

[walker]

I emailed James Rollins via his web site (he's very fast to respond - this is twice now that I've hit him up for info and it takes him no more than a day or two) and he confirmed that he is only writing the initial movie adaptation and nothing more. So, yes, I agree with Dr. Sartorius. This is probably the paperback edition of Rollins' hardcover adaptation.
walker

[Ska]

What is the general consensus on the choice of James Rollins to pen the novel adaption of "Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull" ? Does he seem like the "right" choice ? I have a number of his books but (as usual) haven't got around to reading any of them yet.

I couldn't have picked anyone better! I'm a huge fan of James Rollins...Excavation & Sandstorm are really good action/adventure novels.

[Andy Jones]

I emailed James Rollins via his web site (he's very fast to respond - this is twice now that I've hit him up for info and it takes him no more than a day or two) and he confirmed that he is only writing the initial movie adaptation and nothing more. So, yes, I agree with Dr. Sartorius. This is probably the paperback edition of Rollins' hardcover adaptation.
walker

It's probably just a mistake by Amazon, as they have both the hardback and paperback versions of the novelisation coming out in May.

[Insomniac]

Where can I get a sticker book like that. I hope the kids get indy.My lil sister is into it and she wants the Indy lego playset for her birthday instead of a I pod she prentend shes indy killing natzis in the snow. Shes only six.The cool thing is she understands the series.

[Arab Swordsman]

I couldn't have picked anyone better! I'm a huge fan of James Rollins...Excavation & Sandstorm are really good action/adventure novels.

I like his older novels a bit more than the newer ones with the Sigma Squad.

[otto rahn]

So, Dr Czajkowski got the Indy gig! :D

Not a bad choice at all, though in all honesty I would probably prefer Alan Dean Foster or Max Allan Collins. (And I can't help but wonder how an Indy novel by Lincoln Child & Douglas Preston would turn out... at least if they wrote it in their classic style, without the lazy magic that has dulled their later works)

Hopefully, though, it's not signifying a change in Lucasarts' policies regarding writers' selection - because if they began basing their choices on "how many copies did X sell?", then, knock on wood, one day someone there might actually think of giving away Indy's name to be tainted by some antitallented, worthless cretin such as that plagiarist responsible for "Star Wars: Episode Medieval", better known as "Eragon"... or even - shudder - that parasite whose name I wish I could forget, "Matthew Reilly"... :sick: My do you call Reilly a "parasite" ?:confused:

[Perhilion]

I think Matthew Riley is a great writer, especially with action scenes. Go read Temple. It is at least as good as any Indiana Jones book if not better, and it doesn't feel like a knock-off.

[Ska]

I like his older novels a bit more than the newer ones with the Sigma Squad.

I 100% agree.

And about Matthew Reilly, Temple is a very good book...as is 7 Deadly Wonders (especially if you like elaborate booby traps).

[Dr._Jones]

STICKERS!naw but for real, the making of the movie books is gonna be sweet.

[davros72]

OK, now that Amazon link for "Novel 2"...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Indiana-Jones-Novel-James-Rollins/dp/0091926769/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1202135974&sr=1-28
... is showing Rob MacGregor as author, specifically paperback, still 400 pages, but now coming out April 9, 2009. Might still be the paperback version of the Rollins KOTCS novelization, as it traditionally is a year after hardback release before the paperback is published. But with a different author's name now? Hmmm....

[Violet Indy]

Being released next year seems to suggest to me that it is a completely new novel, not a novelization of the KOTCS movie. I remember someone posting something about McGregor's website saying that new Indy novels that he's written will be published. Maybe we're getting a new Indy novel series, in which case... YAY!!! :up: :up:

[No Ticket]

Being released next year seems to suggest to me that it is a completely new novel, not a novelization of the KOTCS movie. I remember someone posting something about McGregor's website saying that new Indy novels that he's written will be published. Maybe we're getting a new Indy novel series, in which case... YAY!!! :up: :up:

This is the first I've heard of this, but I'm excited!! I agree, it's probably going to be a new series because right now they're going nuts with Indy merchandising. For all of you who are bothered by that, chill out, Indy's time in the spotlight will come and go. He hasn't had one like this in quite some time!!

I hope it's a new series and not just one book!

[-Jones-]

Amber /Poland/ publishing house will publish /9th May/ the novelization of KotCS movie.

BEWARE! SPOILERS!!!!





Here's the short synopsis /quick translation/:

Year 1957. American archaeologists who are examining the Mayan temple are attacked by the soviet commandos. Russians murder the scientists and kidnap the head of the expedition - Dr. Indiana Jones. And that's how the new adventure of the famous archaeologist starts. Secret American base in Area 51, Nazca burial grounds, forgotten valley in Peru and the mysterious pyramid - there Indy fights with the insidious enemy. The stake is something greater that all wonders of the world...

[|ZiR|]

Nice find!

But I gotta ask: why the heck is Poland getting the novelization of KotCS as early as May 9th?! Is it the James Rollins book?

[Hedwig]

I had never heard about that 'Russians attack the archaeologists and kidnap Indy'-thing... But how do the Marshal college and Mutt get into the story? And the train. Not sure do I believe that or not... But that's a good find.:)

[-Jones-]

Nice find!

But I gotta ask: why the heck is Poland getting the novelization of KotCS as early as May 9th?! Is it the James Rollins book?

http://www.klimczok.osdw.pl/L/45393401073KS.obr

Yep.

James Rollins, 232 pages.

It's quite normal, novelizations are always published before the premiere ;).

[nitzsche]

Now we're getting somewhere!

The question is, do we see this kidnapping take place at the Mayan dig site, or does the movie just start off with the Hangar 51 stuff?

Does anyone else get the feeling that KOTCS is going to be the first Indy movie with a very different kind of opening sequence?

[|ZiR|]

http://www.klimczok.osdw.pl/L/45393401073KS.obr

Yep.

James Rollins, 232 pages.

It's quite normal, novelizations are always published before the premiere ;).

But, hey, the US release date for the James Rollins novelization is May 20th, a lousy two whole days before the premiere.

How is it that the Polish version of a book written by an American author, in English is going to be published first? Do they not care about spoilers in Poland?

Yes, I know just whining at this point. But it's... it's just not faaaaaaair.

[Darth Vile]

Although the openings have always follwed the "end of a previous adventure" concept, I think each and every Indy movie has had a unique opening sequence. The opener for TOD was drastically different from Raiders, and obviously LC went back in time.

I've no reason to believe KOTCS will be any different in that it will be unique.

[nitzsche]

What I mean is, the KOTCS opening does not seem as disconnected from the main plot as the teasers of the previous installments were.

[jasperjones]

I think as has been suggested before that the Marshall College stuff happens after the Area 51 stuff which opens the film.

What is new is the idea that Indy was captured whilst working on a Mayan site.

Now here's an idea...from the trailer we know that Indy gets pulled from the trunk of a car so has presumably been captured by the Ruskies at some point (possibly with Mac). This synopsis suggests when, where, why and by whom, BUT it doesn't necessarily fit that that particular scenario will be shown in the film.

The TPM and ROTS novelisations both began with scenes that acted as a prelude to scenes that opened the films themselves. That could well be the case here and what will be described in the book will only be alluded to on screen. Or, it could be that the film does actually open this way and we've not seen any footage/ shots of this section.

AGREED Nitzche. I've always thought that the opening seems to be more connected to the rest of the film than the previous adventures. I can imagine the paramount logo fading to the Mayan temple silhouette, accompanied by the skull theme (wonder if that is the music on that m&m game) as we move through the dig before eventually come face to face with Indy again...

But then I feel that we may have seen our first intro for Indy with the hat silhouette in the teaser. Who knows but lots to speculate on!

[nitzsche]

Yeah, I'm thinking the actual capture will not be shown. There will have to be some explanation as to how Indy and Mac are captured.

At first, I thought Indy and Mac were captured while racing the Russians to get something from the warehouse. Now it's certain the Russians kidnapped them in order to identify something at the warehouse... something only Indy and Mac would know about.

[jasperjones]

Yeah it could go either way (edited my previous post in response to yours).

[SterankoII]

I think this shows how really evil and ruthless this particular group of Russians are. That they killed a bunch of scientists and presumably some Army guys.

[IndyFan89]

Amber /Poland/ publishing house will publish /9th May/ the novelization of KotCS movie.

BEWARE! SPOILERS!!!!





Here's the short synopsis /quick translation/:

Year 1957. American archaeologists who are examining the Mayan temple are attacked by the soviet commandos. Russians murder the scientists and kidnap the head of the expedition - Dr. Indiana Jones. And that's how the new adventure of the famous archaeologist starts. Secret American base in Area 51, Nazca burial grounds, forgotten valley in Peru and the mysterious pyramid - there Indy fights with the insidious enemy. The stake is something greater that all wonders of the world...

Where did you find this?

[mindy muffles]

I happen to think that this is probably fan created.

[-Jones-]

Where did you find this?

http://www.klimczok.osdw.pl/ksiazka/Rollins-James/Indiana-Jones-i-Krolestwo-Krysztalowej-Czaszki,45393401073KS

You know Polish? I doubt it...

I happen to think that this is probably fan created.


BS...

[AHegele]

I still think that the first time we see indy is when he gets out of the trunk, the shot of his shadow against the car is too great of an introduction for the actual film not to use.

[The Man]

I still think that the first time we see indy is when he gets out of the trunk, the shot of his shadow against the car is too great of an introduction for the actual film not to use.

Specifically, it's the hat we see first, flung from the the trunk by one of the Russkie "presidents".

[Deckard]

I still think that the first time we see indy is when he gets out of the trunk, the shot of his shadow against the car is too great of an introduction for the actual film not to use.

Sounds legit to me. I think thats a good way for the russians to have gotten Jones by kidnapping him, and they bring him back for w/e reason. We won't see this though, it will start w/ him in the trunk like I said, You have those mountains in the desert in the beginning of the trailer that are perfect to fade from the paramount logo to, then pan down to the cars and Indy in the trunk. And like Hegele said that silhouette shot.

I think they'll probably discuss what happened w/ the russians murdering scientists once Indy is back at the college campus. We'll learn about all of that through discussion w/ Jim Broadbent and maybe Ian Mcdiarmid if hes really in it.

[oki9Sedo]

I don't think that will be an introductory shot at all......I think it will just be a cool shot to show Indy being defiant.

After getting thrown on the ground like an animal, he gets up, strides over defiantly and with dignity and pulls his hat off the ground, and puts it back on. Its a simple "F*** you" to the Russians.

[nitzsche]

Hmmm, I dunno. I think it's going to be one of the "faceless" hero introductions like all the other films had.

[QBComics]

Bad QB!! Bad QB!! *slaps self from reading* :dead:

[JerryKing]

But I gotta ask: why the heck is Poland getting the novelization of KotCS as early as May 9th?! Is it the James Rollins book?

It must be because James Rollins is in fact named James Czajkowski... :D

[JerryKing]

Here's its cover, by the way - with Struzan's teaser, same as everywhere:
http://merlin.pl/images_big/17/978-83-2413-066-5.jpg

[-Jones-]

Here's its cover, by the way - with Struzan's teaser, same as everywhere:
http://merlin.pl/images_big/17/978-83-2413-066-5.jpg

I've posted this cover on the first page of this topic...

And Jim, not James Czajkowski...

[JerryKing]

I've posted this cover on the first page of this topic...
As white space?

And Jim, not James
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/aliens/14.gif

[Dr.Sartorius]

I don't know if this deserves its own thread, so....

There's some big spoilers in the Indiana Jones Mad Libs book.

There's some very reassuring info regarding the whole Mutt/heir thing. Apparently by the end of the movie the time isn't right for Mutt to inherit the fedora. He decides to go back to school instead of becoming Indy Jr.

The book also mentions that Indy marries Marion at some point.

[The Man]

I don't know if this deserves its own thread, so....

There's some big spoilers in the Indiana Jones Mad Libs book.

There's some very reassuring info regarding the whole Mutt/heir thing. Apparently by the end of the movie the time isn't right for Mutt to inherit the fedora. He decides to go back to school instead of becoming Indy Jr.

The book also mentions that Indy marries Marion at some point.

Kiss me...;)

[QBComics]

The book also mentions that Indy marries Marion at some point.

Well some disapointment but mabey, just mabey, they can pull it off.

[The Man]

Maybe Mutt can take over the academic end of things, leaving Indy even more time to globe-trot...

[WillKill4Food]

http://www.klimczok.osdw.pl/ksiazka/Rollins-James/Indiana-Jones-i-Krolestwo-Krysztalowej-Czaszki,45393401073KS
You know Polish? I doubt it...
BS...
Well, according to a crappy Polish translator it says:
Year 1957. American archeologists, which (who) research temple of may, they have been hit at by. Soviet commandos. Russians murder scientists and new adventure of famous archeologist abduct chief expedition – doctor indiana begin Jonesa.Tak. Secret american base in zone 51, cemetery on płaskowyżu Nazca, disappeared valley in (to) peru and there magic pyramid becomes for duel with tricky opponent – Indy. Something is rate, all miracles of worlds pale at that.
Kind of staticy, aye?

[-Jones-]

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7849/181812gs3.jpg

As you can see, I have THE BOOK ^^. I know the ending, I know it all!

The film will be amazing!

If you guys want some spoilers, then say so in this topic ;).

[Dr. Indy Jones]

As you can see, I have THE BOOK ^^. I know the ending, I know it all!

The film will be amazing!

If you guys want some spoilers, then say so in this topic ;).

I want some spoilers, please bring them on!!! ;) :whip:

[-Jones-]

I want some spoilers, please bring them on!!! ;) :whip:

I knew it ^^ xD.

OK, here they are:

- Mutt is Henry Jones III
- there is no 'passing the torch' /the ending is quite funny - 'Not this time, kid' xD/
- Mac is killed /vortex/
- 'spaceship' is involved - 'Departure'
- Spalko is killed in a cool way /the same goes with Dovchenko/ xD
- there's a wedding /I + M/.

[The Man]

I knew it ^^ xD.

OK, here they are:

- Mutt is Henry Jones III
- there is no 'passing the torch' /the ending is quite funny - 'Not this time, kid' xD/
- Mac is killed /vortex/
- 'spaceship' is involved - 'Departure'
- Spalko is killed in a cool way /the same goes with Dovchenko/ xD
- there's a wedding /I + M/.

The only word that worries me in there is 'spaceship'.
Is it tastefully written?

[-Jones-]

Is it tastefully written?

Yep. There's more mystery than s-f ;]. You'll be happy. More I can't say, sorry :P.

[Agent Spalko]

I knew it. Everything has now been confirmed. This will be the black sheep of the Indy films.

[The Man]

I knew it. Everything has now been confirmed. This will be the black sheep of the Indy films.

Until now, Temple Of Doom was deemed the 'black sheep'. If Crystal Skull matches that, we're in business.

[bonoferox]

My question is, what was the store that put this out early?


And how does Spalko die? :hat:

[bonoferox]

Until now, Temple Of Doom was deemed the 'black sheep'. If Crystal Skull matches that, we're in business.


Agreed. Even if it's half what TOD was, I'll be still satisfied with the movie itself, even if all my expectations aren't met.

[-Jones-]

I knew it. Everything has now been confirmed. This will be the black sheep of the Indy films.

Let me say this: BIG BS xD.

My question is, what was the store that put this out early?


And how does Spalko die? :hat:

Well, it's available in Poland from Monday?

Spalko will literary burn from inside.

[The Man]

My question is, what was the store that put this out early?


And how does Spalko die? :hat:

She desperately grabs a flaming crystal skull, loses grip of the rope-bridge and plunges helpless into the gobs of peckish crocodiles.

[bonoferox]

Let me say this: BIG BS xD.



Well, it's available in Poland from Monday?




Are there any cameos in the end wedding that you know of?

[-Jones-]

Are there any cameos in the end wedding that you know of?

Nope. 0 cameos ;].

[bonoferox]

Don't know if I'm disappointed or happy about that.

[The Man]

Nope. 0 cameos ;].

Are there... ...any mentions of the Ark after it's appearance in Hangar 51? Does Indy have any plans to reclaim it in the future?

[bonoferox]

And do we get to see the actual aliens?

[-Jones-]

Are there... ...any mentions of the Ark after it's appearance in Hangar 51? Does Indy have any plans to reclaim it in the future?

Indy takes a brief look at the Ark /after the hangar crash - you can see this in the 1st trailer.

And do we get to see the actual aliens?

13 crystal skeletons

[IrishLuck1980]

So I'm guessing the Crystal Skulls are actually fossilized Alien remains.

[bonoferox]

Sounds like it.

[-Jones-]

So I'm guessing the Crystal Skulls are actually fossilized Alien remains.

Yes, they are. One is found at the Roswell crash site and then moved to Area 51 Hangar.

[Agent Spalko]

Cue X-Files theme...

[IrishLuck1980]

Cue X-Files theme...

Dude, if you can believe a box can destroy a platoon of Nazis, a man can rip someone's heart out and the person still live, and a 400yr old Knight can still live and a cup can grant eternal life and heal any wound, then how the @!@!@ can you not believe Aliens?

[Agent Spalko]

Dude, if you can believe a box can destroy a platoon of Nazis, a man can rip someone's heart out and the person still live, and a 400yr old Knight can still live and a cup can grant eternal life and heal any wound, then how the @!@!@ can you not believe Aliens?

You posted that exact same response in another thread and my answer is still the same.

[The Man]

You posted that exact same response in another thread and my answer is still the same.

I thought I'd read that somewhere before...;)

[agentsands77]

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7849/181812gs3.jpg

As you can see, I have THE BOOK ^^. I know the ending, I know it all!

The film will be amazing!

If you guys want some spoilers, then say so in this topic ;).
Umm, can you give a relatively detailed summary of the climax of the film, ala what happens after they replace the skulls, etc. You've given some details, but I'm having a hard time putting it all together. The really big issue I want to to know is... do the skeletons come to life after they do it? Because it seems they have a consciousness of their own.

[-Jones-]

what happens after they replace the skulls, etc. You've given some details, but I'm having a hard time putting it all together.

Well, basically the skeletons are 'resurrected' ;].

That's it, you've to wait for the premiere, because I'll spoil you the whole film ;].

[agentsands77]

That's it, you've to wait for the premiere, because I'll spoil you the whole film ;].
Well, to be frank, that's exactly what I want. ;)

[IrishLuck1980]

And how the hell do you join last month and have almost 400 posts? Do you not have a job or something?

[-Jones-]

To sum up: this will be the biggest movie of the year. Non-stop action and...

Well, see the movie ;]. I'll say only this: Indiana Jones saga is not over!

[ScarfaceJoker]

And how the hell do you join last month and have almost 400 posts? Do you not have a job or something?

Think you might have misread - April 2007 is 13 months ago! ;)

[Legendary Times]

Dude, if you can believe a box can destroy a platoon of Nazis, a man can rip someone's heart out and the person still live, and a 400yr old Knight can still live and a cup can grant eternal life and heal any wound, then how the @!@!@ can you not believe Aliens?

CLASSIC! ...and so true!

[The Man]

To sum up: this will be the biggest movie of the year. Non-stop action and...

Well, see the movie ;]. I'll say only this: Indiana Jones saga is not over!

One last teensy probe: does Indy......take control of Mutt's Harley at any stage during the bike chase ala Last Crusade?

[IrishLuck1980]

Think you might have misread - April 2007 is 13 months ago! ;)

No, Spalko's says April 2008

[-Jones-]

Think you might have misread - April 2007 is 13 months ago! ;)

He was saying this about Agent Spalko ;).

[-Jones-]

One last teensy probe: does Indy......take control of Mutt's Harley at any stage during the bike chase ala Last Crusade?

You spoiler sucker, you! :P


No, but there are some funny situations /library and the stadium/.

[Borbarad]

The only word that worries me in there is 'spaceship'.
Is it tastefully written?

Ugh..Wedding? That's so out of character.

[IrishLuck1980]

Bring on the Indiana Jones Animated Adventures!!!

[-Jones-]

xxx

I suggest, you xxxx...

Bring on the Indiana Jones Animated Adventures!!!

First, they must end the 2nd trilogy.

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Must...not...highlight...black...bars.
ARGH!

[Agent Spalko]

Ugh..Wedding? That's so out of character.

Yup. My point exactly.

[snake_surprise]

I dunno, I think a wedding can work.

Indy is not James Bond, he is not a faceless agent of death, always mobile...he is more of a homebody...this would be the second of the four films where family is a plot line.

I don't really have a problem with it. Again, its not the idea, but the execution that matters.

[IrishLuck1980]

If the big 3 decide to take this franchise in a different direction with Shia taking over and Indy in a support role then so be it. I see alot of possibilities with that.

[Agent Spalko]

Indy's solo. :D

[The Man]

If the big 3 decide to take this franchise in a different direction with Shia taking over and Indy in a support role then so be it. I see alot of possibilities with that.

A spin-off with Mutt Williams' derring-do is one thing, but having Indy in a supporting role would be a depressing affair. If they decide to foster LaBeouf's character further it should be as independent of Ford as possible.

[-Jones-]

If the big 3 decide to take this franchise in a different direction with Shia taking over and Indy in a support role then so be it. I see alot of possibilities with that.

The ending states clearly, that Shia is not the main figure of the story ;]. Stick to that. He's 'daddy little helper'.

[Agent Spalko]

A spin-off with Mutt Williams' derring-do is one thing, but having Indy in a supporting role would be a depressing affair. If they decide to foster LaBeouf's character further it should be as independent of Ford as possible.

Mutt Williams is NOT the Indy franchise. A Mutt spinoff would reek as bad as the Jinx spinoff that was planned from the Bond franchise.

[The Man]

Mutt Williams is NOT the Indy franchise. A Mutt spinoff would reek as bad as the Jinx spinoff that was planned from the Bond franchise.

That's exactly what I mean.

[agentsands77]

I dunno, I think a wedding can work.
I do too. In the future I imagined for Dr. Jones, I always saw him married, and most likely to Marion. As far as I'm concerned, this ending is the right one.

[Agent Spalko]

While Lucas is at it he should film more scenes for the Star Wars Extra Special Editions where we fast forward at the end of Jedi to see Old Han and Old Leia and Jacyn and Jaina or whatever the hell their names are from the expanded universe just to tie everything up in a neat little bow.

[ScarfaceJoker]

No, Spalko's says April 2008

Whoops - my bad! :whip:

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Yup. My point exactly.

I know it was not one of the movies, but Indy got married in Seven Veils.

[The Man]

Is it specified that Marion marries Indy? Maybe she opts for Ox...

[IrishLuck1980]

Ugh. You guys need to accept change. lol Ford is 60. How many more adventures can we get out of him?

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Ugh. You guys need to accept change. lol Ford is 60. How many more adventures can we get out of him?

As much as I can

[The Man]

Ugh. You guys need to accept change. lol Ford is 60. How many more adventures can we get out of him?

He's 60 plus 5...;)

[agentsands77]

Is it specified that Marion marries Indy?
Yeah... though I get the hint that you're being a joker by asking this question.

[The Man]

Yeah... though I get the hint that you're being a joker by asking this question.

I do enjoy a good guffaw, yes, but that was a serious question. Marion is in Peru to save Ox, the surrogate father to her son. After his redemption - and a good shower and shave - he might be slightly devestated to have her run away with a man she hasn't seen in years. Perhaps Indy watches the wedding wistfully, but at peace. And then decides to kill Mutt.

[Raiders112390]

Indy's solo. :D

The character is almost 60, shouldn't the man be allowed to get married and enjoy the rest of his life, especially with Marion? It's not he's still 30 and tied down.

[bonoferox]

So, Jones, in case there is a twist, enlighten us with the details of the marriage, please.

[The Man]

We've all become spoiler-ho's!

[agentsands77]

Marion is in Peru to save Ox, the surrogate father to her son. After his redemption - and a good shower and shave - he might be slightly devestated to have her run away with a man she hasn't seen in years. Perhaps Indy watches the wedding wistfully, but at peace.
Interesting theory, but no. We know the wedding's Marion's and Indy's. Not Marion's and Ox's.

And that's the way it should be, anyway. Marion's Indy's gal, after all.

[bonoferox]

We've all become spoiler-ho's!

That we have....

[-Jones-]

So, Jones, in case there is a twist, enlighten us with the details of the marriage, please.

No twists. Everything is made in an old-fashioned way. There's dean Stanforth, Ox, Mutt and Indy's friends /but no names are mentioned, besides some general Ross from Nevada/. There's some jockes involved in the process. The wedding ends with Indy losing his fedora, Mutt tries to pick it up and wants to try it, but in the last second Indy takes his hat from Mutt's hands and then puts it on and walks with Marrion out of the church into the bright light. THE END

[metalinvader]

That sounds like a wonderful ending.Almost perfect in a way.

[The Man]

That sounds like a wonderful ending.Almost perfect in a way.

Yes, and teasing us with the fedora is a cunning touch. If Mutt is to wear anything it should be a ring-pillow strapped to his head like Jinx in Meet The Parents.

[agentsands77]

No twists. Everything is made in an old-fashioned way. There's dean Stanforth, Ox, Mutt and Indy's friends /but no names are mentioned, besides some general Ross from Nevada/. There's some jockes involved in the process. The wedding ends with Indy losing his fedora, Mutt tries to pick it up and wants to try it, but in the last second Indy takes his hat from Mutt's hands and then puts it on and walks with Marrion out of the church into the bright light. THE END
Sounds terrific, and a great note for the franchise to end on.

[Daring Dragoon]

I heard there is a major death. Who is it? Also, where in the first trailer can we see Indy looking at the ark?

[-Jones-]

I heard there is a major death. Who is it? Also, where in the first trailer can we see Indy looking at the ark?

Mac is sucked in. I was saying this about the scene ;). The Ark is not visible in the teaser, but the scene is in the trailer - just seconds from the scene with the Ark.

[The Man]

No twists. Everything is made in an old-fashioned way. There's dean Stanforth, Ox, Mutt and Indy's friends /but no names are mentioned, besides some general Ross from Nevada/. There's some jockes involved in the process. The wedding ends with Indy losing his fedora, Mutt tries to pick it up and wants to try it, but in the last second Indy takes his hat from Mutt's hands and then puts it on and walks with Marrion out of the church into the bright light. THE END


As the wedding party descends the steps and The Raiders March kicks in, the shot fades into the dense, plastic foliage of Peru. Pan down to an anthole. Horrid, insect-ravaged fingers appear as a vengeful wail stirs birds from the trees: JOOOOOOONEEES!!!

[The Man]

Mac is sucked in. I was saying this about the scene ;). The Ark is not visible in the teaser, but the scene is in the trailer - just seconds from the scene with the Ark.

Ahh, so the Ark is blown out of its crate by the impact of the crash?

[MattJones]

I heard there is a major death. Who is it? Also, where in the first trailer can we see Indy looking at the ark?


From what I can ascertain, the major death is Abner Ravenwood

Heh, just kidding, it's Mac.

[-Jones-]

Ahh, so the Ark is blown out of its crate by the impact of the crash?

Well, the crate is damaged and Indy spots the handle of the Ark, but has no time to open it.

[MattJones]

Well, the crate is damaged and Indy spots the handle of the Ark, but has no time to open it.

How awesome would it have been if Indy opened the Ark while keeping his eyes shut and obliterated the Soviets?

[QBComics]

No twists. Everything is made in an old-fashioned way. There's dean Stanforth, Ox, Mutt and Indy's friends /but no names are mentioned, besides some general Ross from Nevada/. There's some jockes involved in the process. The wedding ends with Indy losing his fedora, Mutt tries to pick it up and wants to try it, but in the last second Indy takes his hat from Mutt's hands and then puts it on and walks with Marrion out of the church into the bright light. THE END

Perfect! :whip:

[sandiegojones]

That does seem perfect, I wish I hadn't just read it! :(

[-Jones-]

You people want another spoiler? :>

[Hawkeye]

Yes!!! Bring it on!!!

[QBComics]

You people want another spoiler? :>

Not for me, I just wanted to know about the wedding and only that. *leaves quickly*

[sandiegojones]

You people want another spoiler? :>
Why not? lay it on us!

[-Jones-]

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9238/indy4may813jd3.jpg

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/5/9/f_totalfilm02m_83926c2.jpg

You see this hat which Indy is holding? This is Dovchenko's hat. Indy uses it as a compas, because Russians don't have one xD. Inside the hat there is gunpowder from Dovchenko's gun bullets. Indy needs powder in order to find the box with crystal skeleton - it has magnetic properties. There is more to that... It will be so cool to see it on the big screen! On the second picture you can see that Indy has found the right crate /with the skeleton/.

And another one - the book starts in 1546. Francesco de Orellana is surrounded by crystal skeletons, then it switches to Yukatan 1957, where Indy and Mac are kidnapped by Spalko ;). Then we have Area 51, rocket sled, doomtown, fridge scene... and you must watch the film to know what is next :P.

[The Man]

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9238/indy4may813jd3.jpg

You see this hat which Indy is holding? This is Dovchenko's hat. Indy uses it as a compas, because Russians don't have one xD. Inside the hat there is gunpowder from Dovchenko's gun bullets. Indy needs powder in order to find the box with crystal skeleton - it has magnetic properties. It will be so cool to see it on the big screen!

And another one - the book starts in 1546. Francesco de Orellana is surrounded by crystal skeletons, then it switches to Jukatan 1957, where Indy and Mac are kidnapped by Spalko ;). Then we have Area 51, rocket sled, doomtown, fridge scene... and you must watch the film to know what is next :P.

Forgive my geographical ignorance, but...

...where is Jukatan?

[agentsands77]

Indy needs powder in order to find the box with crystal skeleton - it has magnetic properties.
Was Jones previously acquainted with the skeleton?

And another one - the book starts in 1546. Francesco de Orellana is surrounded by crystal skeletons, then it switches to Jukatan 1957, where Indy and Mac are kidnapped by Spalko ;).
Both strike me as scenes for the novelization, rather than things that were actually filmed... but they sound like cool moments. I'll have to read those sections, if only in the book store. :hat:

[-Jones-]

Forgive my geographical ignorance, but...

...where is Jukatan?

Damn, it should be Yukatan - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukatan.

[sandiegojones]

Forgive my geographical ignorance, but...

...where is Jukatan?
I think Yucatan which is in the gulf of Mexico.

[agentsands77]

Forgive my geographical ignorance, but...

...where is Jukatan?
The standard spelling Yucatan, and it means the Yucatan Penninsula. It's in Southeastern Mexico.

[The Man]

I think Yucatan which is in the gulf of Mexico.


Ahh, that's plausible.

[-Jones-]

Was Jones previously acquainted with the skeleton?


Yep, he did some research on it in 1947. And yes, he knew Area 51 before 1957.

[sandiegojones]

Yep, he did some research on it in 1947. And yes, he knew Area 51 before 1957.
Wow, this is more like Close Encounters of the Indy kind!

[The Man]

Does Spalko attempt to get her Commie-freak on with Ol' Indy?

[MattJones]

Is Charles Widmore involved?

[-Jones-]

Does Spalko attempt to get her Commie-freak on with Ol' Indy?

She uses the power of the skull to make Indy speak about sth...
Indy starts to cry with blood, but he's saved - scene in the tent...

You can't look into the eyes of the skull... it will destroy you...

Is Charles Widmore involved?

Yes, he has a cameo at Indy's wedding.

[The Man]

She uses the power of the skull to make Indy speak about sth...
Indy starts to cry with blood, but he's saved - scene in the tent...

You can't look into the eyes of the skull... it will destroy you...

Gross! What's sth?

[Perhilion]

Yes, he has a cameo at Indy's wedding.
damn it....

[-Jones-]

Gross! What's sth?

Ehhh... :P

She want to know Oxley whereabouts...

[Spriggan Jones]

Just one question that I need to know.


Does anyone meet a nasty end via the Jungle cutter and what is the extent of the action scene it's involved in?


Thanks!:hat:

[Daring Dragoon]

Is Sallah mentioned at all? Also, those reviews said that the quicksand scene with the snake was very unbelievable. What exactly happens in this scene?

[|ZiR|]

I have no questions to ask because almost everything's been covered already, so I just want to say thank you for posting these spoilers. Best KotCS thread ever. :up:

Love the bleeding eye scene. **** sounds so cash.

And actually I lied; I do have a question. Have you read any of the previous movie novelizations, and if so, how does James Rollins stand up against those? Do you think the book is well written?

[-Jones-]

Just one question that I need to know.


Does anyone meet a nasty end via the Jungle cutter and what is the extent of the action scene it's involved in?


Thanks!:hat:

Nope, no one important. The chase is quite lengthy. At first Indy is 'stealling' the truck, then he blows the jungle cutter with bazooka, then he we have the Mutt-Spalko sword fight, then the Indy-Spalko race, then Indy-Dovchenko fight, then... watch the film. After the chase we have Indy and Dovchenko fight... at the end he's eaten by ants ;).

Is Sallah mentioned at all? Also, those reviews said that the quicksand scene with the snake was very unbelievable. What exactly happens in this scene?

Nope, no Sallah. Indy with Marion and Mutt are walking through the jungle and suddenly... check the film :P The quicksand is rather a combination of geyser and quicksand and yes, Indy grabs a snake to pull himself out. Quite a funny scene.

I have no questions to ask because almost everything's been covered already, so I just want to say thank you for posting these spoilers. Best KotCS thread ever. :up:

Love the bleeding eye scene. **** sounds so cash.

And actually I lied; I do have a question. Have you read any of the previous movie novelizations, and if so, how does James Rollins stand up against those? Do you think the book is well written?

No prob ;].

I think it's quite good. It's quite funny. It's written in a comic style, I should say. I would go and say that it's my favourite of all. The quarrel scene between Indy, Marion and Mutt is hilarious! Dovchenko is swearing in that one, but not for long ^^.

There is one dialogue I personally loved:

Mutt: You're not my dad!
Indy: Wanna bet, kid? And I have one thing to tell you: you're going back to school!
Mutt: What?! But you've said: 'There's nothing wrong with it, don't let somebody tell you different'.
Indy: At that time I wasn't your father!

[Spriggan Jones]

Nope, no one important. The chase is quite lengthy. At first Indy is 'stealling' the truck, then he blows the jungle cutter with bazooka, then he we have the Mutt-Spalko sword fight, then the Indy-Spalko race, then Indy-Dovchenko fight, then... watch the film. After the chase we have Indy and Dovchenko fight... at the end he's eaten by ants ;).



I see. Thanks! Just to clarify when you say...

"no one important" could that mean, some random soviet stooge might still get mulched or perhaps catch that flying blade we've seen with his face?:dead: hehe. Is there anything at all like that in the book? No need for details. I just can't believe we've pretty much been spoiled on the entire Jungle Cutter sequence in trailers.

Even though I really wanted to see Dovchenko get mulched I have to admit the demise of a red army Colonel via siafu "red army" ants is so poetic. Not to mention Dovchenko is seemingly indestructable and he's done in by a creature(s) so small. Even better his full name is "Ant"onin Dovchenko! Lol! Let's not forget about Spalko, a women who was branded a witch as a child eventually meets a firey end. The deaths in this movie will be very fitting.:up:

[-Jones-]

"no one important" could that mean, some random soviet stooge might still get mulched or perhaps catch that flying blade we've seen with his face?:dead: hehe. Is there anything at all like that in the book? No need for details. I just can't believe we've pretty much been spoiled on the entire Jungle Cutter sequence in trailers.

Well, wait and see ;). I've spoiled you engouh, by the time of the premiere, you'll know the whole plot ;). Another tiny spoiler: The Yale chase is quite funny for example... Marcus is involved :>.

[agentsands77]

I've spoiled you engouh, by the time of the premiere, you'll know the whole plot
I'd love to, actually. And it's not like you're one to talk, you're the most spoiled out of any of us! :p

[Spriggan Jones]

Well, wait and see ;). I've spoiled you engouh, by the time of the premiere, you'll know the whole plot ;). Another tiny spoiler: The Yale chase is quite funny for example... Marcus is involved :>.

Awesome! hehehe. Something tells me when you say "wait and see" it probably means I'll be happy about it on May 22!:up:

[-Jones-]

I'd love to, actually. And it's not like you're one to talk, you're the most spoiled out of any of us! :p

Well, I'm a bad, bad boy, I like to be span... uh, spoiled! :o :whip: :D :p

[romantico]

Can you Go into more detail regarding Spalko's fate?

[sandiegojones]

I've been very curious. How is it that the Russians get to Area 51 and take control without any issues with the US? It's not as if the whole base could be taken over by spies.

[-Jones-]

Can you Go into more detail regarding Spalko's fate?

She looks into the eyes /eye sockets to be more specific/ of one of the skeletons, she tries to look back (13 skeletons surrounds), but it's useless and she starts to burn from the inside and puff ;]. The strange light skullf***** her ;). There's some blood too.

I've been very curious. How is it that the Russians get to Area 51 and take control without any issues with the US? It's not as if the whole base could be taken over by spies.

There were 3 people guarding AREA 51 HANGAR xD. One was mutilated by Dovchenko and other two were shot ;)

[sandiegojones]

So it's not really an air base like AREA 51 it just a hanger with stuff in it an 3 guards? That makes more sense. Gracias Amigo!

[-Jones-]

There's some other funny stuff:

Russian sniper before changing to steam notices a flying refrigarator!

And there is no sparky in the book :P.

After the refrigarator scene, we see Indy washed by some army men in a decontamination chamber ;). I doubt that we'll see this on the big screen, cause he's naked xD. In the meantime Spalko is analyzing the skeleton - the whole skeleton with skull + some guts;). And then Indy's back to teaching.

[Spriggan Jones]

Ahhh!! I cannot take this suspense! Lol. I need to know one way or the other. Please! Just yes or no...

Are there any deaths at all that are caused by jungle cutter?

[sandiegojones]

So who sets off the bomb? I assume Indy gets to doomtown from the rocket sled, but do the Russians do it or is he in the right place at the right time during a US test?

[-Jones-]

Ahhh!! I cannot take this suspense! Lol. I need to know one way or the other. Please! Just yes or no...

Are there any deaths at all that are caused by jungle cutter?


Naah......................................

So who sets off the bomb? I assume Indy gets to doomtown from the rocket sled, but do the Russians do it or is he in the right place at the right time during a US test?

I would say that he is in the wrong place at the wrong time. The test is legit.

[Spriggan Jones]

Naah......................................




Awww. So no grisly payoff. :(

Thanks for the info! At least I can mourn this now and not be dissapointed when I'm waiting for it to happen when I'm watching it on the 22nd.

[-Jones-]

Awww. So no grisly payoff. :(

Come on ;). This is Indy flick, not Hostel xD.

[sandiegojones]

I would say that he is in the wrong place at the wrong time. The test is legit.

So when he's found by real US soldiers they assume he might be spying or something?

[-Jones-]

So when he's found by real US soldiers they assume he might be spying or something?

Yep. He's interrogated by agent Taylor.

[GRAILKNIGHT]

I don't get how Spalko is analyzing the whole skeleton with the skull right after
hangar 51 scenes and then how the skull shows up in orellana's cradle later?
Are they two different skulls?

[IrishLuck1980]

So how exactly does he realize the Ark is also in the Hanger?

[sandiegojones]

I don't get how Spalko is analyzing the whole skeleton with the skull right after
hangar 51 scenes and then how the skull shows up in orellana's cradle later?
Are they two different skulls?
I don't have the spoilers but I would say that the russians need one more and get it from Hangar 51, but they cannot find the city. maybe Indy tries to find a 13th skull to get to the city before them. 13 are needed to activate whatever is in the temple but there could be more than that.

[Spriggan Jones]

Come on ;). This is Indy flick, not Hostel xD.

Of course but a...
villain meeting their demise via a machine like the Jungle Cutter is classic Indy! It's like the flying wing or Rock crusher. It's not like I was expecting buckets of gore or anything. Even an implied death by Jungle Cutter is better than none, for me at least. However we will be getting something along the lines of the Flying wing and Rock crusher with this fight around the anthill. This time the threat isn't a machinical one but organic. heheh

[-Jones-]

So how exactly does he realize the Ark is also in the Hanger?

After the crash, Indy notices that one of the crates has been damaged and he notices the Ark handle and that's it. Ark is there for a really brief moment.

I don't get how Spalko is analyzing the whole skeleton with the skull right after
hangar 51 scenes and then how the skull shows up in orellana's cradle later?
Are they two different skulls?

Really, watch the film ;]. If I'll tell you the whole thing it'll be pointless for you to go to the cinema ;].

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The 'part-time' line is said by Indy in the cementary, where he fights 2 warriors. Indy saves Mutt, btw.
Marion is introduced after the interrogation scene, so much later in the film.

[Daring Dragoon]

How much do they mention Indy's age? We've already seen it twice in the trailer. Is this an on going joke? Also, describe the scene when Indy and Marion meet up for the first time since Raiders.

[IrishLuck1980]

I have one more question then I am done till May 22nd. Is the Hanger destroyed?

[herr gruber]

This thread might as well be May 22...:( Why, oh, why do we give in like children peeping through wrapping paper at their xmas gifts?

[Violet Indy]

Now, that's a lot of spoilers. I read them all, lol. The ending isn't surprising, especially considering how much already has been used from that er, script that shouldn't be named.

[Hedwig]

I'm very excited after reading all of the spoilers!:D Thank you very much, -Jones-!:up: I have one question, but I can't ask it before I know how to make those black things over the text... How do you make those?
I apologize my silly question....:o

[-Jones-]

How much do they mention Indy's age? We've already seen it twice in the trailer. Is this an on going joke? Also, describe the scene when Indy and Marion meet up for the first time since Raiders.

There are quite a few references to his age. About Indy-Marion - I wrote about this in one of the previous posts.

I have one more question then I am done till May 22nd. Is the Hanger destroyed?

Naaahhh.....................................................................................

BTW, I think most of you will hate Mac, even after his redemption. He is freakin' greedy... he's not a double agent... he wants money... he's sucked into the vortex because he has gold in his pockets ;)

[-Jones-]

Basically by now, you know about 60-70% of the plot ;]. Maybe some of you want more, but for what?

[Spriggan Jones]

This one is my final question till May 22 I promise!:D Does the novel mention...

the cutter blade slicing open the water tank behind one of the convoy trucks as seen in the Hawaii set pictures?

[-Jones-]

This one is my final question till May 22 I promise!:D Does the novel mention...

the cutter blade slicing open the water tank behind one of the convoy trucks as seen in the Hawaii set pictures?


Noo, there's no water tank ;). Only some generic trucks.

[Spriggan Jones]

Noo, there's no water tank ;). Only some generic trucks.


I see! Thanks alot for that!:hat: I think it's still possible that a few small details could have been left out from the novel or were changed during filming. Fingers crossed that some random solider on one of the convoy trucks fails to duck in time!:dead: heheh

[Hedwig]

I can't wait to see the movie!:D It's going to be so awesome...:) Thanks (again) -Jones- for posting all the spoilers!

[-Jones-]

Thanks (again) -Jones- for posting all the spoilers!

No problem ;]. BTW - it's not all ;).

[Hedwig]

No problem ;]. BTW - it's not all ;).
It's not?! If you're about to post more, I can't resist the temptation of reading them....:)

[jtobin13]

hf says hes 18 years older it was a good show with no spoilers.jt

[Agent Z]

I'm afraid to uncover spoiler boxes to see if this has been asked already, so does Mutt learn swinging from vines to chase a truck by observing monkeys doing it? :p

[IrishLuck1980]

So the Hanger survives. That means the Ark survives. And there's still hope! muhahahahaha

[-Jones-]

So the Hanger survives. That means the Ark survives. And there's still hope! muhahahahaha

Hehe ;]. Yep, there's hope for another film :).

[Daring Dragoon]

I heard there are giant ants and scorpions. How big are they? Are they abnormally big, like bigger than humans, or just larger than usual? The original three kept the bugs real and I'm trying to think if KOTCS is gonna use CG creatures now.

[-Jones-]

I heard there are giant ants and scorpions. How big are they? Are they abnormally big, like bigger than humans, or just larger than usual? The original three kept the bugs real and I'm trying to think if KOTCS is gonna use CG creatures now.

Scorpions are normal in size, ants, on the other hand are just a bit bigger, but also small.

[jasperjones]

I'm with you Agent! Devin at Chud is talking about Mutt, monkeys and vines during the truck chase. Please say that's not in there.

[-Jones-]

I'm with you Agent! Devin at Chud is talking about Mutt, monkeys and vines during the truck chase. Please say that's not in there.

There is 1 vine and some monkeys - it's a really brief scene. This is the result of Mutt-Spalko fight. Mutt is bruised... The vine saves his life ;].

[San Holo]

Great stuff Jones:up: Let's just hope the movie is as good as the novel and they keep in all of the humorous dialogue(Revenge of the Sith's book was full of great lines that didn't make it into the movie).

[agentsands77]

There is 1 vine and some monkeys - it's a really brief scene. This is the result of Mutt-Spalko fight. Mutt is bruised... The vine saves his life ;].
So it is in there, then. Well, I hope it's not as bad as Devin made it sound...

[The_Raiders]

What's Indy and Marians reaction to seeing eachother again?

[Agent Spalko]

What's Indy and Marians reaction to seeing eachother again?

She punches Indy and says, "I learned to hate you in the last 20 years."

Indy's a deadbeat dad.

[The_Raiders]

Hahaha, yeah maybe she will do that :p , Yeah I don't think Indy would be a great dad either. :p

[The Man]

Hahaha, yeah maybe she will do that :p , Yeah I don't think Indy would be a great dad either. :p

What?!? Indy would rule as a father! Imagine those family holidays...:up:

[The_Raiders]

What?!? Indy would rule as a father! Imagine those family holidays...:up:


What I meant bu Indy probably wouldn't be a good dad is,

1. His family would have to worry about weather he's dead or alive.

2. Not sure what kind of things he told Shorty but it doesn't sound too good for him to hear, "Tell me later, what happened,

3. He'd probably be gone alot.

Just what I think. :hat:

[-Jones-]

What's Indy and Marians reaction to seeing eachother again?

You'll see ;].

[Yure]

Yeah, imagine when he's retired.

Indy: Mutt, pass me the TORCH, QUICK!

Mutt: Dad... how many times should I tell you... we have electric light at home...

Indy: I SAID... PASS... ME... THE... TORCH! Ooops, I just pooped a little.




(last bit from Family Guy ;))

[-Jones-]

Some other spoilers:

Indy is colonel /retired/. The monologue from the 2nd and 3rd trailer has been edited - it's longer. The novelization states clearly that Indy's father died in 1955.

[MattJones]

Hahaha, yeah maybe she will do that :p , Yeah I don't think Indy would be a great dad either. :p

Actually, Indy was a wonderful father. Did he tell Mutt to eat up, go to bed, wash his ears, do his homework? No. He respected Mutt's privacy and taught him SELF-RELIANCE.