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Millions
01-02-2008, 09:55 AM
We all agree that Harrison Ford is an absolutely brilliant choice for Indy. I wouldn't dare argue against that - and definitely not on this board. But he's getting old now, and it would be silly to lose this great character because Harrison is too old. Harrison Ford has actually said he'd be happy having another actor take over the role, as long as he got the 4th film. Just like the Bond franchise and Sean Connery, Harrison would for many be the favourite, but look at the newest Daniel Craig film - Casino Royale - absolutely brilliant. Look at all the great Bond films we'd have missed if they'd ended the films when Connery retired.

Anyway, now that I've said my piece, my favourite candidate to carry on as Indy after Harrison retires is the guy who plays Sawyer in the Lost tv show. He's got the charm, the looks, that bit of arrogance, the physical abilities, and even gets beaten up quite regularly, just like our favourite hero.

What do you think of this suggestion? Any other (practical) ideas - there's no point saying Tom Sellek - he's too old now, too!

Whats the Sawyer actor called, again? My memory is a blank...! I should've done my research!

deckard24
01-02-2008, 10:25 AM
In my opinion the series should end with Ford! I really can't see people accepting someone else in the role. I know they have (at times) with Bond, but I just feel the character of Indy is different.

Now, if they came up with a similar type character like Rick O'Connell in The Mummy films, I'd vote for an actor like Gerard Butler, Nathan Fillion, or Eric Bana.

QBComics
01-02-2008, 10:40 AM
I think Indy should end with Harrison Ford too.

oki9Sedo
01-02-2008, 10:48 AM
The series should end with Ford.

Blackadder
01-02-2008, 12:20 PM
Harrison ireplaceble

Chiliana Jones
01-02-2008, 03:47 PM
Ford cant be replaced. every piece of the Indy-outfit is designed to fit Harrison and only harrison. If somebody else were to cary the gear they will look silly (if they arent lucky to find someone who actually fits the gear).
James Bond is known for his tux. Everyone can wear a tux but not everyone fits the Indy gear.

but just to mention who i belive would actually do a good replacement would have been River Phoenix. To bad he's gone. R.I.P

deckard24
01-02-2008, 05:28 PM
Going back to my idea earlier of a new adventure film character, I'd like to see Clive Owen have a good action/adventure role. He's got such a great gritty persona, that he'd be perfect in a Indy-like rogue adventurer film. If Brendan Fraser can get such a role, surely Owen deserves one.

indy34
01-02-2008, 06:14 PM
Though I think that ford will be the only Indy the closest I would say is the pilot in the new flight of the Phoenix

deckard24
01-02-2008, 07:04 PM
Though I think that ford will be the only Indy the closest I would say is the pilot in the new flight of the Phoenix

You mean Dennis Quaid?

I've seen his name tossed in the hat a few times now! The only issue is his age, he's in his mid 50's now. I would think if you replaced Ford, it would have to be someone younger in their late 30's-40's.

As for Quaid taking on an Indy-like role of his own, that I wouldn't mind seeing!

Lon
01-02-2008, 09:27 PM
The only other actor I'd like to see play Indy is an actor doing a voiceover for an animated series. An animated show is the best way to continue the franchise after Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is released.

Finn
01-03-2008, 03:18 AM
The only other actor I'd like to see play Indy is an actor doing a voiceover for an animated series. We've had couple of VO actors in the video games, guess they count. Doug Lee (FoA, IM) and David Esch (ET).

JerryKing
01-07-2008, 03:35 PM
Forgotten this guy? :D
http://www.galastars.online.de/newsneu/bilder/larry_manetti_tom_selleck.jpg

Seriously, however, Harrison Ford is the beginning and end of Indiana Jones.

Except that as long as Indiana = Jone$$$, someone will do the inevitable extension. Even if it's going to be "Shia la Boeuf is Nevada Jones with Brendan Fraser as Doctor Jones!"...

Vlad Dracula
01-08-2008, 12:15 AM
The only other actor I'd like to see play Indy is an actor doing a voiceover for an animated series. An animated show is the best way to continue the franchise after Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is released.

I'm in total agreement with that.

DoomsdayFAN
01-08-2008, 02:29 PM
End it with Ford. If they ever replaced him with another actor, there'd be a MASSIVE uproar!

But I see no reason why they could'nt continue the story with Shia LeBouf. Of course NOT as Indy. But as a new character. Kind of like BATMAN BEYOND.:up:

bergstrom
01-08-2008, 02:40 PM
It ends with Ford. if they wanna use Shia in a spin off, fine, waste millions of $$, but I won't be going to see it.

B

DoomsdayFAN
01-08-2008, 03:28 PM
I will. He will be the Jones of the 60's-70's

IndysGal41
07-17-2008, 10:48 PM
Just wondering if Ford wouldnt of played the role of Indy who else would of been your pick for indy?

I m thinking that guy richard dean anderson from stargate atlantis.

http://66.235.120.64/ts?t=18094438228097201248&pid=24448&ppid=2

:D

indifan101
07-17-2008, 10:54 PM
Top 3 for my list

Jack Nickolson in his prime
Clint Eastwood in his prime
Billy Cambell I thought he would of made an awesome young Indy

IAdventurer01
07-17-2008, 11:35 PM
I m thinking that guy richard dean anderson from stargate atlantis.

Great, then McGuyver could add using a giant ancient statue to knock down a wall in the Well of Souls to his enormous list of crafty escapes. :p

(Oh, and he's more from SG-1 than Atlantis)


As for other good Indys ... eh. I'll still have to think about it - it's hard for me to imagine someone other than Ford.

Dr. Wolfwood
07-17-2008, 11:58 PM
I think Ralph Fiennes is the only real choice. In Constant Gardener he even had some scenes where he had almost the proper look - just missing the hat.

|ZiR|
07-18-2008, 12:27 AM
I don't think Tim Matheson or Tom Selleck would have been bad choices. I sort of agree about Richard Dean Anderson but he was too pretty to play Indy back in the day.

Indy~Annie
07-18-2008, 03:08 AM
lol i love Richard Dean Anderson as Macgyver!:up:

but i cant see him being a Indy.

i cant any way think of some one else being him besides the greatest Actor ever!!:D

i cant even try pretend.lol

Agent Z
07-18-2008, 03:19 AM
The problem with this is that we have the physical model of Ford so ingrained within our Indyverse, that we automatically start going towards actors who resemble Harrison.

I liked the choice already mentioned of Clint Eastwood, especially using 20/20 hindsight now and knowing how well the man has aged. Although I wonder if audiences back then would have been taken out of the illusion, seeing "Dirty Harry" with a bullwhip? I mean, we already knew Harrison, but for whatever reason, I never once thought "Hmmm, what is Han Solo doing in the jungle?". Strange.

IndysGal41
07-18-2008, 10:40 AM
how about bruce campbell from army of darkness??

http://images-partners-tbn.google.com/images?q=tbn:_uzG_4UCibk1qM:bp3.blogger.com/_O4vBnCipQGM/RnzFyCRB6tI/AAAAAAAAAEg/lj0mcZ5tbr0/s400/Bruce%2BCampbell.jpg

Kevin
07-18-2008, 11:46 AM
For his time, Ford was a great choice, but I think Robert Redford could have pulled it off too.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm282/kelliott1983/robert.jpg

If ROTLA was made in 2008 rather than 1981, I think Aaron Eckhart would have made a good Indy.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm282/kelliott1983/blackdahlia.jpg

Crack that whip
07-18-2008, 12:14 PM
I suppose Neil Boulane, Boutalat, Corey Carrier, River Phoenix, Sean Patrick Flanery and George Hall are too obvious?
:p

The Man
07-18-2008, 12:20 PM
Jeff Goldblum could be slyly radical. Think about it...

Indy1986
07-18-2008, 01:15 PM
sorry but no one else but ford could be indy....he is the movie it wouldnt work without him....this is not james bond...it has to be ford, even shia as lead character and ford just as father like connerey in crusade, wouldnt work for me

The Man
07-18-2008, 01:30 PM
Eternal shame on you all! There is only one Indiana Jones...

http://indy.mamo-net.de/attachments.php?action=attachment&id=931

Errex
07-18-2008, 01:57 PM
I don't think anybody else would have made a better Indy than Ford. He had this likeable/hard-edged quality that was completely convincing either when trying to charm Marion or pulling out a gun on you. :gun:

Raiders of Clay
07-18-2008, 03:48 PM
Me!!;) Lol

Agent Z
07-18-2008, 04:01 PM
Eternal shame on you all! There is only one Indiana Jones...

http://indy.mamo-net.de/attachments.php?action=attachment&id=931


As long as he isn't "reviewing" films for Germany, I'm all for it.

Save one country at a time, the angels told me...... :up:

IndysGal41
07-19-2008, 06:28 PM
I know Indy is the only one I was assuming if there wasnt a harrison ford.:)

http://www.nationalacts.com/lookalikes/images/indianajones.jpg

here is an indy impersonator

Kali Mah
07-24-2008, 08:15 PM
how about bruce campbell from army of darkness??

http://images-partners-tbn.google.com/images?q=tbn:_uzG_4UCibk1qM:bp3.blogger.com/_O4vBnCipQGM/RnzFyCRB6tI/AAAAAAAAAEg/lj0mcZ5tbr0/s400/Bruce%2BCampbell.jpg

Good call!

Snakes
07-24-2008, 09:27 PM
If ROTLA was made in 2008 rather than 1981, I think Aaron Eckhart would have made a good Indy.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm282/kelliott1983/blackdahlia.jpg

No kiddin'!

What movie is that picture from?

muttjones
07-25-2008, 12:27 AM
If ROTLA was made in 2008 rather than 1981, I think Aaron Eckhart would have made a good Indy.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm282/kelliott1983/blackdahlia.jpg

Yeh that would be cool

But how about Christian Bale?

glorbes
07-25-2008, 07:31 AM
No kiddin'!

What movie is that picture from?

The Black Dhalia, I believe.

Professor E
07-26-2008, 10:46 AM
Maybe Dennis Quaid. I actually think that Bruce Campbell would have made a good Colonel Hogan (Hogan's Heroes). Let's not forget (if he could act and not have the accent) Nick Faldo (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38267000/gif/_38267043_faldo_harrison_298.gif&imgrefurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/golf/features/newsid_2270000/2270683.stm&h=167&w=298&sz=16&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=0D502jf3sj4gLM:&tbnh=65&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnick%2Bfaldo/harrison%2Bford%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBF_enUS246US246)
But seriously, Quiad has the sense of humor and cockiness and could have pulled it off.

The Man
07-26-2008, 11:28 AM
Jeff Bridges. One of the most casually watchable actors around. Just as underrated as Ford aswell...

IndysGal41
07-26-2008, 08:25 PM
http://66.235.120.64/ts?t=15034582742331714260&pid=23040&ppid=1

brendan frasor is a good choice too.
:)

muttjones
07-26-2008, 08:44 PM
http://66.235.120.64/ts?t=15034582742331714260&pid=23040&ppid=1

brendan frasor is a good choice too.
:)

i reckon he's too comical for indy

Raiders112390
07-27-2008, 02:20 AM
Tom Selleck, the first choice.

IndysGal41
07-27-2008, 09:02 AM
^ only i cant picture indy with a mustache
:D

EddyW
07-27-2008, 03:31 PM
Eric Bana sometimes reminds me of the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" Indy:

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1123219/photo_17.jpg

Kevin
07-27-2008, 07:42 PM
The Black Dhalia, I believe.

Yep!


Good call EddyW, Eric Bana is another great modern choice.

IndysGal41
07-27-2008, 09:44 PM
http://66.235.120.64/ts?t=16278272697090536468&pid=23296&ppid=5

sam neil had that bit of indy style going on
:D

deckard24
07-28-2008, 08:43 AM
Eternal shame on you all! There is only one Indiana Jones...

http://indy.mamo-net.de/attachments.php?action=attachment&id=931
Fred Ward as Indiana Jones? LOL

bennihana123
07-28-2008, 12:24 PM
Tom Selleck

Zorg
07-29-2008, 06:57 AM
No-one else than Harrison Ford is, was or could ever have been Indiana Jones.

Dr.RosenRosen
07-29-2008, 09:32 AM
Eddie Murphie ? :up:

Ok, this one was bad. I´ll think everyone could have been a good Indy. If you have asked this question before Raiders was shot, who would have said "Harrison Ford" for Indy?

IndysGal41
07-29-2008, 06:00 PM
eddie murphy is more of a comedian than an adventurer.

:p

Jenos Idanian
07-29-2008, 06:28 PM
Not that it would ever happen but if they were to do a reboot of Indy, I would vote for Nathan Fillion.

Nurhachi1991
07-29-2008, 08:24 PM
Cobra Commander would of made a great Indy.

Dr. Wolfwood
07-30-2008, 12:01 AM
Not that it would ever happen but if they were to do a reboot of Indy, I would vote for Nathan Fillion.

This actually makes me hope that they DO reboot Indy!

Dr._Jones
07-30-2008, 02:01 AM
tom cruise...definitely... :p

IndysGal41
07-30-2008, 06:50 PM
^ ewww....jkjk :p



keanu reeves??
:cool:

Professor Jones
09-27-2008, 03:51 PM
Of course Harrison is irreplaceable, but I find that Scott Bakula could be a good substitute... But since I'm italian, tough, I don't know if he's good in acting...

http://www.dvdedice.cz/herci/38/7_821154853938.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/darkorion_98/actor/scottbakula.jpg

http://www.quizalot.com/images/quiz-pictures/Scott%20Bakula.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1320000/images/_1324760_bakula150.jpg

http://memoryalpha.de/news/media/cast/scott_bakula_03.jpg

Nurhachi1991
09-27-2008, 04:45 PM
I said this before and I will say it again.



I wish they would do a TV series with Mutt like the adventures of Young Indy.


Mutt could interact with important people of the 60s-70s like Martin Luther King ect.


Shia could do the role he isn't that big of an actor yet so he could easily do a tv series.

ChromiumBlue37
09-29-2008, 12:05 PM
Any further Indiana Jones adventures should be confined to the 1920's through the 1940's with a younger actor.

For Indy five use TLC formula and have the younger actor in the story preface. Those events should tie into the story of 1958 Indy.

jamesdude
09-29-2008, 05:59 PM
How about Tom Welling as Indiana Jones, he looks alot like a young Harrison Ford:

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/tom-welling/tom-welling-20071216-351884.jpg

Indy&HanFan
09-29-2008, 06:04 PM
I said this before and I will say it again.



I wish they would do a TV series with Mutt like the adventures of Young Indy.


Mutt could interact with important people of the 60s-70s like Martin Luther King ect.


Shia could do the role he isn't that big of an actor yet so he could easily do a tv series.

i'd say this is probably the best idea i've read so far

The Professor
09-29-2008, 06:33 PM
I say it ends with Ford. Unlike Superman, James Bond, and Batman, Indiana Jones does not exist without Harrison Ford. Indy was created as a movie character, first embodied by Ford. Those other characters existed in comic books and novels first. They, in a sense, transcend the actor who plays them. On the other hand, Indy is a screen creation, originally existing on film.

Dr.Sartorius
09-30-2008, 01:10 AM
Its like someone trying to replace Clint Eastwood's The Man with No Name. Won't happen and wouldn't work.

IndyFanSince3
10-06-2008, 08:09 PM
Harrison Ford is IndianaJones . I just couldn't imagine anyone else playing him. Yeah, other adventure film characters are similar, but there's only one Indy and there's only one Harrison Ford.

If they made a movie with anyone else playing Indy, I wouldn't see it.

Indy Croft
10-06-2008, 08:53 PM
i agree ford is the one & only portrayer of indy

Lance Quazar
10-07-2008, 06:02 AM
While I definitely don't want to see Indy recast (and, after KotCS, I don't want to see any new Indy projects ever), if I HAD to pick someone, I think the only choice would be Nathan Fillion.

Major West
10-07-2008, 06:55 AM
How about Tom Welling as Indiana Jones, he looks alot like a young Harrison Ford:

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/tom-welling/tom-welling-20071216-351884.jpg

He looks nothing like him.

caats
10-07-2008, 08:20 AM
yeah it just wouldn't work. harrison is the only one.

No Ticket
10-07-2008, 08:47 AM
Unfortunately, as much as people compare Bond and Indy. I really don't think they're the same thing. And I really think we don't need to have 20+ Indy adventures in the future.

The series, as far as film is concerned, for anytime in the near future should just end with Ford. I've never liked the YIJC, and I think for the most part it's because I'm not watching Ford as Indy so I never really got into it that much. This isn't the only reason, but I'm not getting into that.

He just is the character of Indy, to me. Much of who Indy is is the mannerisms of Harrison Ford. Anybody else in that fedora is just that. Somebody wearing Indy's fedora.

The Man
10-07-2008, 08:55 AM
Ford needs no replacement. Hell, he even shone in Crystal Skull. If Indy V does happen, he could be into seventies. Doesn't matter. Harrison in a wheelchair is better than a younger upgrade pissing on the legacy. And shoving Shia LaBeouf into Indy's spotlight is equally sacrilegious.

arkfinder
10-08-2008, 05:09 AM
Keep Ford then turn it over to Shia.

Mickiana
10-08-2008, 07:26 AM
Find a younger actor, but not Shia. We will learn to adopt the new Indy.

Insomniac
03-31-2009, 04:23 PM
For his time, Ford was a great choice, but I think Robert Redford could have pulled it off too.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm282/kelliott1983/robert.jpg

If ROTLA was made in 2008 rather than 1981, I think Aaron Eckhart would have made a good Indy.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm282/kelliott1983/blackdahlia.jpgYou beat me to the punch Aaron Eckhart wold kick a$$!:hat:

StoneTriple
03-31-2009, 08:37 PM
It goes without saying - but I will anyway - I'd be perfectly fine with the series being Ford-only. However, I could definitely see Eckhart playing Indy. Take the films back to the Raiders style of Indy being a little edgier.

Some of the McCoy novels would be great stories just as they are. Philosophers Stone and Secret Of The Sphinx would be perfect. They're dark and gritty stories the way Raiders is. They also take place just a few years before Raiders, so there wouldn't be an age issue.

"You want to talk to God? Let's go see him together, I've got nothing better to do. "

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/stonetriple/Eckhart_30sIndy.jpg

punisher5150
03-31-2009, 09:16 PM
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h64/kruemelnikku/schnuffis/meme1/SeanPatrickFlanery4.jpg


Come on, let's keep some continuity, and go back to the 30s with a perfect actor for the part.

Goonie
03-31-2009, 09:52 PM
How about Borat as Indiana Jones?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7975007.stm

Insomniac
03-31-2009, 10:16 PM
SPF would be awesome!:hat:

Dr Bones
04-01-2009, 06:34 PM
I don't like the idea of anyone replacing HF but I guess nobody could get used to the idea of anyone but Connery being Bond, but they did it time and time again and Bond is still big time forty years on....

Look at the uproar when Brosnan was replaced by Craig...Now everyone is loving Craig.

Instead of the Indy passing on the role to Mutt idea it my well happen HF gets replaced and it may even happen that some fans prefer the new Indy. Like I said, hard to accept now...but who knows in the future?

Reboots are ten a penny these days but they just keep on coming...Indy may well be next.

:confused:

StoneTriple
04-01-2009, 07:28 PM
Reboots are ten a penny these days but...

So is using the term reboot for a prequel. Indy wouldn't have to be "rebooted". Considering the myriad of possible stories in the 12 novels and the unexplored early 30s, a prequel with a different actor would work very well just as a good adventure film.

Violet
04-01-2009, 08:12 PM
So is using the term reboot for a prequel. Indy wouldn't have to be "rebooted". Considering the myriad of possible stories in the 12 novels and the unexplored early 30s, a prequel with a different actor would work very well just as a good adventure film.

That's where I want the franchise to go! I wanna to see what happened in 25/26!!!

You know what I talking about....

And a couple of WW2 adventures would be nice too, with Mac.

And I love pretty much all the novels with a couple of exceptions (Sky Pirates should be avoided completely and Interior World is just too weird, White Witch however is a much better story than SP, and is more Indy like and I wouldn't mind it being turned into a film or telemovie). I've always felt that a mini series would be fitting for the novels especially for MacGregor's because of continuity and McCoy's, again because of the continuity in between his books.

In terms of an actor though, I don't know who should play Indy other than WW2 Indy, which would be SPF. For 1920s Indy, I did like Luke Ford (from Mummy 3) very much. He could do 1920s Indy and believe me, he played Alex who is a lot tougher than Mutt, so I believe he could pull it off. And the fact that he was hot in Mummy 3, certainly has pushed my vote in his direction, lol.

Millions
04-02-2009, 04:04 AM
Uh.... who's SPF?

Lance Quazar
04-02-2009, 04:33 AM
Uh.... who's SPF?

Sunscreen.

Rocket Surgeon
04-02-2009, 09:34 AM
What does Harrison Ford's son look like?

EddyW
04-02-2009, 09:56 AM
I think I've said it before,but if it was up to me, I'd ask Eric Bana. I'm pretty sure he could pull it of and he even looks like (a younger, gruffier, TOD) Indy.

http://koraal.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/hector.jpg

What do you think? With the right lighting and a fedora over this we could have Indy kicking Nazi's for a long time to come.
http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1123219/photo_17.jpg

punisher5150
04-02-2009, 11:26 AM
Young Indiana Jones! I think a series set in the 30s with him as Indy would be good. I used to think he didn't look much like Harrison Ford, but now that he's older, there is definitely a resemblance. Take a loof at Raiders era Harrison Ford and SPF now.

Also, I think Dennis Quaid could do a 1940s Indy (looked very Indy-ish in the Flight of the Phoenix remake, that's what sold me), but I'd rather see SPF in the 30s if we're not going to have Harrison Ford.

Morning Bell
04-02-2009, 02:16 PM
I'm not thrilled with the idea of anyone replacing Ford, although I do think some actors like Bruce Campbell and David Duchovny would do a respectable job.

Dr Bones
04-02-2009, 05:48 PM
I think I've said it before,but if it was up to me, I'd ask Eric Bana. I'm pretty sure he could pull it of and he even looks like (a younger, gruffier, TOD) Indy.

http://koraal.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/hector.jpg

What do you think? With the right lighting and a fedora over this we could have Indy kicking Nazi's for a long time to come.
http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1123219/photo_17.jpg

Devil's advocate here...

He does look a little like HF in the bottom pic but just becuase he has a passing resemblence doesn't mean he is the right guy for the role or even that HF should be replaced.

Bana has been real hit and miss in the films I have seen him in. He was dull in the dull Troy and as for Hulk....:sick:

Brandon Routh was cast as Supes due to his Reeve likeness (obviously Reeve was picked for his Supes likeness!) but it was a bad film and the casting of Routh alone couldn't save it.

But IMHO give Bana a decent movie, plot, script, director, supporting cast etc etc..then why not.:up:

That said Bana or anyone else need to make the role their own..a Harrison immitator would be just awful...(Routh!)

caats
05-09-2009, 12:03 PM
after seeing Star Trek. a reboot/recast down the line could be awesome. but i think we're a while off from it. maybe in like 15 years or so. Star Trek has swung my opinion on an Indy reboot in favor of it. and also, Chris Pine might not look like Ford, but he's definitely in the same mold when it comes to acting. Good looking leading man who can do tough, but at the same time can do humor. and his yell is very Ford like. haha. i'm sure there'll be somebody else similar come out in the next 15 years.

kongisking
05-09-2009, 04:00 PM
If they were to do a Remake or Reboot of the character, my list of possible actors would be:

Hugh Jackman (He definitely has the Bad-Ass Factor...)

Josh Lucas (Very good at tough, loner, smart-mouthed dudes; could be good as TOD's Indy)

Dennis Quaid (looks a LOT like Harrison!!!)

Chris Pine (from what I've heard, he used Indy and Han Solo as inspiration for his performance as Kirk.)

Hell with it, maybe even Aaron Eckhart*...

* He'd make a GREAT Steve Rogers (AKA Captain America) too!!!!!

caats
05-09-2009, 07:52 PM
i believe that for Pine. Pine would be my only choice. He seemed a lot like Indy. the way he yelled, and the way he ran and screamed reminded me of the start of Raiders when Indy ran to the plane.

robfilmmaker
01-03-2012, 01:14 PM
I'm a huge Indy fan and am excited to hear about a possible Indy 5 movie, BUT I feel the series needs a reboot. Indy needs to be younger for it to work the same as the original 3 films. Seeing old Indy in Crystal Scull trying to run, fight, etc, was kind of silly. It had a certain charm to it, but it wasn't really "believable" and I found myself being pulled out of the movie and disappointed.

This led me to think about a possible reboot of Indy. It could work really well if done right, just look at how awesome the reboot of Batman was by Chris Nolan. But WHO could pull off Indy today? I'd like to hear which actor you all think could do it well. I think the best actor to play Indy today would be Jeremy Renner.

Moedred
01-03-2012, 04:40 PM
Thread moved and merged in the Indy 5 forum, the place for all future big-screen Indy discussions. Other threads can be found here:
which actor looks like HF? (http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=9983)
What actor would make a good 1920's Indy? (http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=10187)

Curious how no one suggests other septuagenarians who could play Indy...

Hanselation
01-09-2012, 04:31 AM
If in the next Indiana Jones movie another actor would play Indiana Jones in a flashback as a younger boy (like River Phoenix did it in LC) I would suggest this guy:

Brian Geraghty

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/2009+CineVegas+Film+Festival+Day+3+ET6Wu6H-sfIl.jpg

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsG/60731-28679.jpg

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Montana Smith
01-09-2012, 04:43 AM
And for his adult counterpart...

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/GreenGang/Indiana%20Jones/sacha-baron-cohen.jpg

replican't
01-09-2012, 05:24 AM
http://www.alistlookalikes.co.uk/cgi-bin/alist.cgi?Command=SearchArtists&db_sub2_id=240

All 3 of them are rubbish.

fenris
03-07-2012, 01:20 AM
How 'bout this guy?

Josh Holloway
http://img2-1.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060926/13032__josh_l.jpg

replican't
03-07-2012, 03:00 AM
How 'bout this guy?

Josh Holloway
http://img2-1.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060926/13032__josh_l.jpg

No thanks.

Montana Smith
03-07-2012, 01:08 PM
How 'bout this guy?

Josh Holloway
http://img2-1.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060926/13032__josh_l.jpg

Only if the gorgeous Evangeline Lilly becomes his Marion, in which case I won't even notice that Josh is Indy. ;)

Raiders112390
03-07-2012, 03:20 PM
Does a "new Indy" have to look like Harrison? I mean Roger Moore looked pretty much nothing like Sean Connery.

I'm asking because our options could be much wider if the new guy doesn't have to look like Harrison, as long as he's got the acting chops to pull off the role. I'm just saying if a new actor has the chops and can pull off the rugged anti-hero adventurer as originally envisioned, does it matter if he looks like Harrison Ford?

I mean the original concept drawings of Indy look nothing like Harrison
http://geektyrant.com/storage/page-images/mo_02.jpeg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1294077388288

If a guy has that classic Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, Clark Gable sort of Golden Age of Hollywood look, or can at least be believable as Raiders of the Lost Ark Indy (ie, the mysterious "Man with No Name"-esque Indy), that's all that should count. Just reboot the series with a younger actor playing Indy in a new continuity.

Mickiana
03-07-2012, 03:59 PM
If someone else does get to play a younger Indy, he must at least in some ways resemble HF. Because Harrison Ford looks like Indiana Jones, a new person must also have a look that will resemble Harrison in order to look like a believable (or acceptable) Indiana Jones.

foreignerfred
03-07-2012, 08:04 PM
If in the next Indiana Jones movie another actor would play Indiana Jones in a flashback as a younger boy (like River Phoenix did it in LC) I would suggest this guy:

Brian Geraghty

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/2009+CineVegas+Film+Festival+Day+3+ET6Wu6H-sfIl.jpg

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsG/60731-28679.jpg

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I actually support the idea of a flashback to younger (mid-20's, early 30's) Indy's adventures, very much like the LC teaser. I think, at least physically, Geraghty has exactly the look that would be needed.

I've always thought that had River Phoenix lived, here in 2012, people would be clambering for River to step into the role, since LC was essentially the Beards and Harrison giving him the thumbs up...as well as the fans (for the most part).

If there was a flashback scene starring Geraghty that captured even a little of Indy magic -- and all within a Harrison Ford Indy film, I think fans and average moviegoers alike would be on board. It doesn't get much more "Passing the torch" than that!

Plus, that would also ensure films STARRING Geraghty, or whoever else, would be Indy canon. That is, prequels, and not REBOOT.

This would continue the untold-story-phenomenon Lucas popularized with Star Wars (after attempting YIJC), while respecting Harrison's legacy by not erasing (like Lucas loves to do) his series.

Raiders112390
03-07-2012, 09:57 PM
If someone else does get to play a younger Indy, he must at least in some ways resemble HF. Because Harrison Ford looks like Indiana Jones, a new person must also have a look that will resemble Harrison in order to look like a believable (or acceptable) Indiana Jones.

True....I'd love if they just adapted some of the Bantam novels (with tweaks of course) to the big screen. Some classic Indy yarns there.

If not films, I'd love if Lucas did another show like the YIJC, picking up where it left off with some of the unsured script elements (like Indy meeting and partnering with Belloq in 1920).

Supernatural
03-08-2012, 02:35 PM
I like Josh Brolin for the part, but ever since someone mentioned Nathan Fillion I've been rethinking it. I think his everyman look and demeanor and sense of humor are right on the nose.

Montana Smith
03-08-2012, 09:38 PM
...but ever since someone mentioned Nathan Fillion I've been rethinking it. I think his everyman look and demeanor and sense of humor are right on the nose.

Though his nose doesn't look good in a fedora.

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3047/fullscreencapture080420.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3047/fullscreencapture080420.jpg

Henry W Jones
03-09-2012, 01:22 PM
There will be something off with anyone in the role that isn't Harrison. Most likely they get someone who looks like him they won't be able to act or vise versa. Or his voice won't be right for Indy. All I'm saying is I don't think a reboot is a good idea with such a great character that was partially made great by the actor playing him. I think a reboot is unnecessary like most reboots and remakes. I would rather someone creates a character of the same motif that has similar type adventures. Uncharted the movie is far more welcome in my book than an Indy reboot. But I will take another sequel with Harrison if done soon.

Mickiana
03-09-2012, 06:12 PM
I think it would be great if a reboot is done with someone appropriate. It was a gamble when they took on Harrison for Raiders. It worked out fantastic. Yes, he set the bar and mostly owns the role. I say 'mostly' because it has been noted how he seemed a little lacklustre in LC and, well, CS of course has its problems. All this "Harrison is the only one" seems a little bit too 'worshippy' for me. I bet Harrison wouldn't care if the role went to someone else to enable historically earlier time slots for a movie setting, especially if that person did a good job and even if it happened in his lifetime. Of course GL is the one to decide that, but reincarnating Indiana Jones via a new younger actor only makes good sense to me. What a fantastic way to keep enjoying the adventures of Indiana Jones. They did it with Young Indiana Jones but of course he was really young but there was nothing wrong with it. As such, there will be nothing wrong with a new younger Indy for more adventures from the 1920s and 1930s.

Henry W Jones
03-09-2012, 07:32 PM
I think it would be great if a reboot is done with someone appropriate. It was a gamble when they took on Harrison for Raiders. It worked out fantastic. Yes, he set the bar and mostly owns the role. I say 'mostly' because it has been noted how he seemed a little lacklustre in LC and, well, CS of course has its problems. All this "Harrison is the only one" seems a little bit too 'worshippy' for me. I bet Harrison wouldn't care if the role went to someone else to enable historically earlier time slots for a movie setting, especially if that person did a good job and even if it happened in his lifetime. Of course GL is the one to decide that, but reincarnating Indiana Jones via a new younger actor only makes good sense to me. What a fantastic way to keep enjoying the adventures of Indiana Jones. They did it with Young Indiana Jones but of course he was really young but there was nothing wrong with it. As such, there will be nothing wrong with a new younger Indy for more adventures from the 1920s and 1930s.

It isn't worshippy it's a matter of can't something else similar be done without having to reboot something? Also I am a huge believer in Harrison made the role as good as it is and if Selleck had been Indy it would not have been done as well. Let's see a new adventurer and enjoy Indiana Jones for what it is with Harrison. The other James Bonds never are the same without Connery. And SPF's Indy portrayal never worked for me either.

Mickiana
03-10-2012, 12:18 AM
Indiana Jones, like James Bond, is formulaic. An adventuring archaeologist with an academic side chasing the prize against typical foes, getting the girl, losing the prize, sometimes losing the girl. Of course someone else can do it. And I don't want something similar, I want Indiana Jones. If we get a fifth one out of Harrison we will be lucky. After that, or even now, no more Indy forever?!!! I don't like that idea. And there's no use talking about how if Tom Selleck had been Indy how different it would have been. shoulda woulda coulda. Let's talk about what's possible, feasible and desirable. If you don't desire a replacement of Harrison, that's fine, but the thread topic is looking for ideas for a new Indy actor.

Henry W Jones
03-10-2012, 02:12 AM
Indiana Jones, like James Bond, is formulaic. An adventuring archaeologist with an academic side chasing the prize against typical foes, getting the girl, losing the prize, sometimes losing the girl. Of course someone else can do it. And I don't want something similar, I want Indiana Jones. If we get a fifth one out of Harrison we will be lucky. After that, or even now, no more Indy forever?!!! I don't like that idea. And there's no use talking about how if Tom Selleck had been Indy how different it would have been. shoulda woulda coulda. Let's talk about what's possible, feasible and desirable. If you don't desire a replacement of Harrison, that's fine, but the thread topic is looking for ideas for a new Indy actor.

I know the thread topic and I don't think any actor should play the role but Harrison. Period. Anything is possible but I don't find it feasible or desirable. And my point with Selleck was anyone could play the part, but can anyone else own it like Harrison. I feel the answer is no so Indy should be left alone after Harrison. Create a new adventure character instead of possibly ruining a classic one.

Mickiana
03-10-2012, 02:44 AM
Getting back on track, Eric Bana has been mentioned. I think he might do a good job. He certainly can muster up the ruggedness and could have a suave side too. I'm not favouring him because he's a fellow Aussie, in fact I wouldn't want Indy to have an Australian accent! But I'm sure Eric could modulate his voice. Eric turns a youthful 44 this year so he has some time to do Indy if that realm of possibility ever came his way sooner than later.

But we would want someone even younger of course to be an Indy in the 1920s and 1930s. An actor about 30yo would be preferable to be able to get a few movies out of. Ah, all this speculation is a lovely fiction, isn't it?

EddyW
03-10-2012, 11:34 AM
That was me mentioning Bana (and maybe others, I don't know). I still see him as a good candidate, he just has the same kind of vibe as Harrison. He's manly, but not in a fashion model kind of way, he can be tough and gritty, but also classy and even nerdish. And he just looks enough like Ford.

Yes, I know the costume is wrong, but still:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/EricArchives/Films/Troy/Movie-Posters/Troy-Poster-006.jpg
http://www.troy-movie.stasi.co.uk/troy-movie-film/troy/eric-bana-hector-troy-movie.jpg

Mickiana
03-10-2012, 05:27 PM
EddyW from the Netherlands! I should have known it would be a Dutchman making a good suggestion. I'm half Dutch myself. I even have a Netherlands passport.

My only concern about Eric is his age. I think of the opportunity missed by not making more Indiana Jones pics through the 90s and into the 00s with Harrison. I think even Spielberg made a remark to that effect. At least they did the 5th even if it was questionable in a few ways.

If they chose the right actor they could start a new series, so to speak, that stretches through the 1920s and 1930s. Who knows, there could be 4 or 5 good Indy flicks to be had that way. But for this, Eric would be too old. I would rather see someone playing Indy who could be available for a big commitment and with whom the audience could develop a good relationship.

Harrison captured the era of 1981 to 2008, or 1935 to 1957. A new actor could fill the Indiana Jones timeline from the early 1920s up to the mid 1930s. Revisiting the intrigue of those decades surely has to be mine of great adventures.

mikieson
03-11-2012, 03:56 PM
There is no way around it..Using someone else to play Indy is just wrong. Its like getting someone else to make new Rocky movies. I just cant fathom the idea. HF is INDY..thats that. You get someone else and you will try and compare him to HF every time you see him. You wont like it..

Raiders112390
03-11-2012, 04:41 PM
There is no way around it..Using someone else to play Indy is just wrong. Its like getting someone else to make new Rocky movies. I just cant fathom the idea. HF is INDY..thats that. You get someone else and you will try and compare him to HF every time you see him. You wont like it..

I am sure producers said the same thing when Connery said he was quitting Bond in 1967.

Mickiana
03-11-2012, 04:50 PM
Not continuing the role of Indiana Jones will be wrong. If there is a fifth from GL, SS and HF, I don't expect it to be much better than CS. I'd like to be proven wrong on that account. This is all just wishful thinking, but i wish George would permit a reboot with a younger actor to get some good stories out of the 1920s and 1930s and that a team with the balls that they had back in the 1980s would make the new flicks.

Comparing the situation to Rocky is not right. The difference is that people will not want to see movie after movie of Rocky getting his head pummeled. I mean, how many different stories can you get out of that anyway?! The world of Indiana Jones, though, has so much potential for many more fantastic adventures without getting stale. Because the world of Indiana Jones is bound up in history, adventure and questing, the sky is the limit.

But I know, you are talking about the replacement of the lead character and thus possibly destroying (or otherwise) the legacy. Again, I don't think the role has been made so sacred by Harry that someone else couldn't do it and do it well AND have it accepted by the viewing audience. I can't see a single reason why it wouldn't work.

I think Harry is almost too old now to do another one without that impacting negatively on the legacy. If what I propose became manifest, we would have the same loved character back to please more young audiences with someone who can realistically be an adventuring and womanising rogue such as we had in the 1980s.

I'd like to actually hear why Harry can't be replaced. No one has given a reason. They've given poor analogies, but no real reason that explains anything other than their emotional attachment to Harrison, which I can understand but would not want to limit myself to.

mikieson
03-11-2012, 05:31 PM
Not continuing the role of Indiana Jones will be wrong. If there is a fifth from GL, SS and HF, I don't expect it to be much better than CS. I'd like to be proven wrong on that account. This is all just wishful thinking, but i wish George would permit a reboot with a younger actor to get some good stories out of the 1920s and 1930s and that a team with the balls that they had back in the 1980s would make the new flicks.

Comparing the situation to Rocky is not right. The difference is that people will not want to see movie after movie of Rocky getting his head pummeled. I mean, how many different stories can you get out of that anyway?! The world of Indiana Jones, though, has so much potential for many more fantastic adventures without getting stale. Because the world of Indiana Jones is bound up in history, adventure and questing, the sky is the limit.

But I know, you are talking about the replacement of the lead character and thus possibly destroying (or otherwise) the legacy. Again, I don't think the role has been made so sacred by Harry that someone else couldn't do it and do it well AND have it accepted by the viewing audience. I can't see a single reason why it wouldn't work.

I think Harry is almost too old now to do another one without that impacting negatively on the legacy. If what I propose became manifest, we would have the same loved character back to please more young audiences with someone who can realistically be an adventuring and womanising rogue such as we had in the 1980s.

I'd like to actually hear why Harry can't be replaced. No one has given a reason. They've given poor analogies, but no real reason that explains anything other than their emotional attachment to Harrison, which I can understand but would not want to limit myself to.
Well I guess if you want just a ball park answer...Anyone can be replaced. Its just a question of "if they should be" OR "why"..

Sure HF can be replaced, but in the hearts of MILLIONS it wont work. He just simply IS Indiana Jones. When you have someone that is known for such an iconic character its almost impossible to replace them.

Again...anyone can be replaced...but its not always wise..As for 007...they were different people for the reason of....they retired from their job OR killed or whatever..and had to be replaced with another 007..Its not just a "one person role"...Indy is a one person role.

I know we'll never really see eye to eye with this and its ok..heck some people just see things differently.

OH one more thing...Im a HUGE LOSTIE "Lost fan"...HUGE...watch it back to back 5x now..listen to the music,watch clips,download pics ect ect..and some people have wanted them to make a new LOST..I say NO to that as noone will ever do it right after the original..no way , no how..

Mickiana
03-11-2012, 07:07 PM
If they can be replaced they should be. Why: There's too much good stuff to come to just ignore it because Harry was the original Indiana Jones.

We won't see eye to eye on this. That's alright. But if they do a reboot in the future would you go see it?

mikieson
03-11-2012, 09:19 PM
If they can be replaced they should be. Why: There's too much good stuff to come to just ignore it because Harry was the original Indiana Jones.

We won't see eye to eye on this. That's alright. But if they do a reboot in the future would you go see it?
It would depend on the person they get and even then the whole time watching I would be comparing him to HF.

Case in point...Superman is Christopher Reeves..100%..He had such a respectful, large, impression..he took Superman and owned it..BUT..I have to say I really liked the guy they got for Superman Returns. He almost was a perfect Christopher Reeves replacement. He was so humble,quiet,had that perfect look and totally gave "what I feel" respect to the man..

NOW...IF...IF..they can do that with Indy..maybe there would be a slight chance I could give in..but, that is a BIG maybe..Dont get me wrong, I would LOVE more Indy movies..but the hardcore in me says...NO..I dont want another person playing Indy..Maybe we'll see...maybe not..??..Im waiting for IndyV..then after that...whatever..

Mickiana
03-12-2012, 02:23 AM
Yes, Harry set the bar high, yes we love him as Indy and maybe someone else can do their own good take on Indy. He won't be Harry, but he might be good. It's all up to GL anyway. Our viewing destiny lies in his hands...

Supernatural
03-12-2012, 03:48 AM
Look at it this way:

Many people consider Connery to be the best Bond, but does that mean we should have stopped Bond after he left? Sure you can say that, but if we had, we wouldn't have Brosnan and Craig.

I just want to point out replacing the original cast of Star trek was considered blasphemy. But it was necessary. The new movie was great.

Do I want to see an Indy movy without Indy? No. But you never know.

Just for the record, I hate reboots. I wouldn't want one. I wouldn't want a remake or a reimagining. It can just fill in the gaps, like the series did.

We still have half of the forties to have fun with nazis after Last Crusade.

Fun with nazis?

Mickiana
03-12-2012, 06:21 AM
I don't care about the use of the term 'reboot'. I don't care what it's called. I just see it as Indiana Jones being able to grace our screens more than if we totally relied upon Harrison making more movies. I am proposing prequels, but that is a pragmatic term. Harrison is the standard and a high one. Does that mean we don't try to emulate him with another? If Harrison himself said he thought it was OK for another younger Indy to be created for future prequels, what would you think then? Or would he be wrong in breaking your orthodoxy? This post is not to anyone in particular. It is for all who oppose the idea of a different actor playing Indiana Jones.

mikieson
03-12-2012, 06:46 AM
I don't care about the use of the term 'reboot'. I don't care what it's called. I just see it as Indiana Jones being able to grace our screens more than if we totally relied upon Harrison making more movies. I am proposing prequels, but that is a pragmatic term. Harrison is the standard and a high one. Does that mean we don't try to emulate him with another? If Harrison himself said he thought it was OK for another younger Indy to be created for future prequels, what would you think then? Or would he be wrong in breaking your orthodoxy? This post is not to anyone in particular. It is for all who oppose the idea of a different actor playing Indiana Jones.

OK...find an actor that has the sarcasm down. Has the leading man down. Has the punch first ask questions later style. Someone that has that gritty,get dirty look. Someone that is a ladies man,without looking like a magazine model "twighlight fairy"..Give me someone that captures what Indy is. Someone that IS Indy. They would basically have to be H.F. AND H.F. WOULD have to give his graces in an interview "crowning" the new Indy..

Get all this together..Lets see the guy,hear the guy speak,interact with people...Lets see how he can "woooo" ladies..Everything would have to be spot on in order for my opinion to even start to change.

Raiders112390
03-12-2012, 12:46 PM
OK...find an actor that has the sarcasm down. Has the leading man down. Has the punch first ask questions later style. Someone that has that gritty,get dirty look. Someone that is a ladies man,without looking like a magazine model "twighlight fairy"..Give me someone that captures what Indy is. Someone that IS Indy. They would basically have to be H.F. AND H.F. WOULD have to give his graces in an interview "crowning" the new Indy..

Get all this together..Lets see the guy,hear the guy speak,interact with people...Lets see how he can "woooo" ladies..Everything would have to be spot on in order for my opinion to even start to change.

That's a bit extreme. He has to be Harrison? Dude, Harrison Ford is not the best actor of all time. He's replacable. And Harrison, if he's alive when a reboot is made, probably wouldn't care one way or another about "crowning" a new actor.

And an actor's interactions with people off screen should have no bearing on his "worthiness" to be Indy on screen.

The fact is, Indy has been played by 4 actors as it is: Ford, Phoenix, Flannery and Carrier.

Henry W Jones
03-12-2012, 01:23 PM
That's a bit extreme. He has to be Harrison? Dude, Harrison Ford is not the best actor of all time. He's replacable. And Harrison, if he's alive when a reboot is made, probably wouldn't care one way or another about "crowning" a new actor.

And an actor's interactions with people off screen should have no bearing on his "worthiness" to be Indy on screen.

The fact is, Indy has been played by 4 actors as it is: Ford, Phoenix, Flannery and Carrier.

Just because 5 people have played him has no bearing. (You forgot about George Hall and I'm sure there are others I'm missing) To me SPF is Henry Defense and not Indiana Jones. I like most of YIJC for what it is but I tend to like the younger years better than the SPF era as far as it feeling like Indiana Jones. The only performance of a young Indy that's worth much is River. He had the mannerizms of Harrison in LC. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be. Just because Harrison is not the "best actor ever" doesn't change facts that there are nuances that Harrison adds to the role that will be sorely missed if Indy is rebooted with another actor. (The Indy smirk, the delivery of the sarcasm, ect) I can put a whip and a hat on. Does that qualify me to play Indiana Jones?
Though I would be perfect in the role :p

mikieson
03-12-2012, 02:53 PM
Just because 5 people have played him has no bearing. (You forgot about George Hall and I'm sure there are others I'm missing) To me SPF is Henry Defense and not Indiana Jones. I like most of YIJC for what it is but I tend to like the younger years better than the SPF era as far as it feeling like Indiana Jones. The only performance of a young Indy that's worth much is River. He had the mannerizms of Harrison in LC. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be. Just because Harrison is not the "best actor ever" doesn't change facts that there are nuances that Harrison adds to the role that will be sorely missed if Indy is rebooted with another actor. (The Indy smirk, the delivery of the sarcasm, ect) I can put a whip and a hat on. Does that qualify me to play Indiana Jones?
Though I would be perfect in the role :p

This pretty much sums up what im trying to convey..And also that reminds me of the part in Jurassic Park where they are going through and looking at how its all done and Eon says.."you were so busying thinking that it could be done, you werent thinking about if it should be done"...OR something to that effect.

YES someone else can play Indy..GO FOR IT..watch it fail..I really have nothing more to say on the subject as Im not getting my ideas across..

mikieson
03-12-2012, 02:55 PM
OH and all the Indy characteristics are not in script...they are in Harrison Ford..HE is what makes Indy...NOT everyone out there has the quality.

Mickiana
03-12-2012, 03:54 PM
I am understanding you guys. I'm just don't agree at all. I have the feeling I am being quite irreverent in my suggestions, in a sea of reverence that is. Yes, the Ford nuances and improvisations are many but not innumerable. Even young River nailed some of them in LC. To be honest, Harrison seems like an ordinary actor really. It wasn't until Raiders that he put a lot of effort in and expanded his emotional range. So obviously he has gone through a learning arc. Above all, a replacement actor will not be trying to be a facsimile of Harrison (as absolutely fantastic Harrison is!), but will capture a core semblance. I also keep in mind that all this is purely rumination and only reflects my personal wishes and may never occur in the real world.

mikieson
03-12-2012, 04:27 PM
I am understanding you guys. I'm just don't agree at all. I have the feeling I am being quite irreverent in my suggestions, in a sea of reverence that is. Yes, the Ford nuances and improvisations are many but not innumerable. Even young River nailed some of them in LC. To be honest, Harrison seems like an ordinary actor really. It wasn't until Raiders that he put a lot of effort in and expanded his emotional range. So obviously he has gone through a learning arc. Above all, a replacement actor will not be trying to be a facsimile of Harrison (as absolutely fantastic Harrison is!), but will capture a core semblance. I also keep in mind that all this is purely rumination and only reflects my personal wishes and may never occur in the real world.

Im not sure what River Phoenix did? He was "ok" but honestly we only seen a few minutes of him on screen. Would he have been good? I just cant say..Again, sure, anyone can take a stab at it..Who would you suggest? Just throw out 5 names of those people you think would do it.

And Harrison Ford not a good actor? I beg to differ. I think he does quite well. The best? Thats up to personal opinion and can range from anyone to Robert Patterson to Robert Deniro or Jim Carey..EVERYONE has their own personal favorites..

And you are right..this will probably NOT happen in our life times so really nothing for me to worry about..:)

Mickiana
03-13-2012, 02:36 AM
I did a search on IMDB of male actors 20 - 25 yo between 5'11" - 6'3" in order to see who is who. I don't keep up with popular culture so I don't know who is out there. A list came up with about 840 different guys. Most didn't have a picture with the name, so just looking at the thumbnail pics I clicked on ones that by sight might fit the bill. Don't know anything about acting ability but of course all of the actors' histories are there. Strangely, the first guy on the list seemed like a possibility: Liam Hemsworth. An Australian by birth born 1990. He is 6'3" which is fairly tall but too much so. He seems to be doing well in the US now. I didn't really have anyone in mind for Harry's replacement. I just liked the thought that he will be replaced for some prequel adventures to continue. I didn't mind the thought of Bradley Cooper or Eric Bana as candidates, but they are getting too old for my particular idea of getting someone young enough to grow up with through 4 or 5 movies. So, instead of 5 suggestions, there's one to start with.

Henry W Jones
03-13-2012, 12:35 PM
Im not sure what River Phoenix did? He was "ok" but honestly we only seen a few minutes of him on screen. Would he have been good? I just cant say..Again, sure, anyone can take a stab at it..Who would you suggest? Just throw out 5 names of those people you think would do it.

And Harrison Ford not a good actor? I beg to differ. I think he does quite well. The best? Thats up to personal opinion and can range from anyone to Robert Patterson to Robert Deniro or Jim Carey..EVERYONE has their own personal favorites..

And you are right..this will probably NOT happen in our life times so really nothing for me to worry about..:)

Watch Rivers facial expressions, listen to his delivery of his lines. "Everyone's lost but me" He even does the smirk. You can tell he worked with and study Fords ways during the filming of Mosquito Coast.

Raiders112390
03-13-2012, 07:04 PM
It's pretty stupid to let a franchise which has tons of potential die off with an actor. Indy can be more than Harrison. And when he's gone, or when he cannot play it anymore, it should be. With newer writers, newer directors. Just stick to the groundwork for the character that was developed between 1978 and 1981 and get an actor who is pretty much a Cary Grant/Clark Gable/Humphrey Bogart clone like Harrison was and it'd work. It's not a role where the actor was some amazing method actor. It's not like remaking The Godfather, where Brando created the character (the look, the way he spoke, etc). Indy isn't about an actor or even the character in terms of backstory or whatever. Indiana Jones has parameters but it's more about a vicarious existence than a character, actor based piece. It could work fine without Harrison.

mikieson
03-13-2012, 08:29 PM
It's pretty stupid to let a franchise which has tons of potential die off with an actor. Indy can be more than Harrison. And when he's gone, or when he cannot play it anymore, it should be. With newer writers, newer directors. Just stick to the groundwork for the character that was developed between 1978 and 1981 and get an actor who is pretty much a Cary Grant/Clark Gable/Humphrey Bogart clone like Harrison was and it'd work. It's not a role where the actor was some amazing method actor. It's not like remaking The Godfather, where Brando created the character (the look, the way he spoke, etc). Indy isn't about an actor or even the character in terms of backstory or whatever. Indiana Jones has parameters but it's more about a vicarious existence than a character, actor based piece. It could work fine without Harrison.
So...Brando made The Godfather, but HF didnt make Indy? Strange..AND for the record,...I found the Godfather movie to be BLAH!..Maybe in 100 years people will forget about HF being Indy..Then it will go over..BUT for now?..Not gonna happen.

Finn
03-13-2012, 08:38 PM
Just stick to the groundwork for the character that was developed between 1978 and 1981 and get an actor who is pretty much a Cary Grant/Clark Gable/Humphrey Bogart clone like Harrison was and it'd work. Disagree. Ford's performance is widely regarded as a key component to Indy's success up to this day. Okay, he may not be the greatest character actor around and might require the right role to truly shine - but Indy was definitely one of them. To claim that any square-jawed estrogen bait could pull that off is rather frivolous.

Though I do think that it's equally frivolous to claim that anybody but Ford couldn't pull it off. With the right face and right crew around him it would certainly be doable, be it in line with the original continuity or a reboot.

Raiders112390
03-13-2012, 10:59 PM
So...Brando made The Godfather, but HF didnt make Indy? Strange..AND for the record,...I found the Godfather movie to be BLAH!..Maybe in 100 years people will forget about HF being Indy..Then it will go over..BUT for now?..Not gonna happen.

Brando created:
How Vito Corleone looked (It was his idea to add cotton balls to his cheeks to create the appearance of jowls, his idea to slick his hair back and long, his idea to grow the little mustache)
How Vito Corleone sounded (He listened to tapes of famous Mafia figures and created a composite of it in that raspy voice. His own idea, no input from anyone else).

The only major contribution HF made to the character of Indy in terms of who the character is is the Arab swordsman scene. He didn't design how Indy dressed or who Indy's personality was, etc. He didn't decide on the fedora and jacket.

And you finding The Godfather to be blah is just indicative of your taste, or lack thereof.

Raiders112390
03-13-2012, 11:03 PM
Disagree. Ford's performance is widely regarded as a key component to Indy's success up to this day. Okay, he may not be the greatest character actor around and might require the right role to truly shine - but Indy was definitely one of them. To claim that any square-jawed estrogen bait could pull that off is rather frivolous.

Though I do think that it's equally frivolous to claim that anybody but Ford couldn't pull it off. With the right face and right crew around him it would certainly be doable, be it in line with the original continuity or a reboot.

I just think it's more that the "persona" of Harrison Ford makes it seem like that. I think any just as skilled actor could make "Indy" and make it work. Not any square jawed handsome guy, but any guy with the square jawed look and the grit to back it up. Harrison is wooden. He plays the same guy in every movie.

If Humphrey Bogart or Cary Grant or Gable or Ronald Coleman had been alive/young enough to play Indiana Jones, they'd have done just as good, if not better a job than Harrison.

mikieson
03-13-2012, 11:12 PM
Brando created:
How Vito Corleone looked (It was his idea to add cotton balls to his cheeks to create the appearance of jowls, his idea to slick his hair back and long, his idea to grow the little mustache)
How Vito Corleone sounded (He listened to tapes of famous Mafia figures and created a composite of it in that raspy voice. His own idea, no input from anyone else).

The only major contribution HF made to the character of Indy in terms of who the character is is the Arab swordsman scene. He didn't design how Indy dressed or who Indy's personality was, etc. He didn't decide on the fedora and jacket.

And you finding The Godfather to be blah is just indicative of your taste, or lack thereof.

So you find that people having different taste in movies wrong? That right there tells me all i need to know about you..AND if im not mistaken HF did have some say so about the Indy character and some of the scenes..

The Godfather to me blows..its not my kind of movie no matter the praise it gets. :hat:

Henry W Jones
03-13-2012, 11:50 PM
Not liking the Godfather is crazy (to each their own) but I do think saying Harrison has nothing to do with the way Indy is on screen is just as crazy. I have to agree with Finn on "Ford's performance is widely regarded as a key component to Indy's success up to this day". I don't believe that someone else "couldn't" play the role but it would not be an Indiana Jones film to me. While I have enjoyed a few non-Con-nery Bond films I still only see Sean as 007. I don't like other actors picking up roles that have already been done because it rarely works well. The only time it is acceptable is in a situation like Harry Potter while in the middle of telling a huge story one of your actor dies and they are crucial to the storyline. I hate the new voice work on the Muppets cuz it doesn't sound like the original cast so continuity is very important to me. I would like to see one more Ford film and then see Indy be a silver screen legend that other movie series aspire to be in the future. I love the character but to me doing earlier stories should have been done a long time ago when Ford had a little more youth on his side.

mikieson
03-14-2012, 12:00 AM
never watched them, but didnt the National Treasure movies get good reviews? IF SO then Nicholas Cage can be our new Indy..:rolleyes:

Just give me one more film with HF as Indy and you people can make whatever other Indy films you want. Just dont expect the true fans to follow along.Wont happen.

Henry W Jones
03-14-2012, 12:15 AM
never watched them, but didnt the National Treasure movies get good reviews? IF SO then Nicholas Cage can be our new Indy..:rolleyes:

Just give me one more film with HF as Indy and you people can make whatever other Indy films you want. Just dont expect the true fans to follow along.Wont happen.

That would be funny!!! All the lines would be whispered or yelled. :up:
Also the Nation Treasure movies were decent but they were a little too Disney.

Mickiana
03-14-2012, 04:02 AM
The Harrison worship is strong! I suppose it can come within the compass of being a fan.

Finn
03-14-2012, 05:40 AM
Just dont expect the true fans to follow along. Sprechen Sie Deutsch?

Hanselation
03-14-2012, 05:28 PM
Always there will be only one original: Ford is Indiana Jones
And he would be still believable as Action Hero (Picture from the Golden Globes 2012)
http://www.adventure-gui.de/1201Ford.jpg


Anything else will just be a copy. Maybe a good one, but never as good as the original.

Raiders112390
03-14-2012, 05:36 PM
Always there will be only one original: Ford is Indiana Jones
And he would be still believable as Action Hero (Picture from the Golden Globes 2012)
http://www.adventure-gui.de/1201Ford.jpg


Anything else will just be a copy. Maybe a good one, but never as good as the original.

SEAN CONNERY IS JAMES BOND. ANYONE ELSE IS JUST A COPY.

And by the way, Harrison looks like a wrinkled old lady nowadays.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/06/article-2082946-0F59E12A00000578-668_634x547.jpg

The fact is, he turned in an odd, off performance in KOTCS. He's going to be 70 soon. He's too old, for one. And someday, he'll die. And a franchise, an idea as great as Indiana Jones shouldn't die with Harrison Ford. That's ridiculous.

mikieson
03-14-2012, 05:41 PM
Someone better clone HF cause take my word..Indiana Jones will die when HF does..He is the only choice..now raise your guns and show your support!!!:gun:

Raiders112390
03-14-2012, 06:16 PM
Someone better clone HF cause take my word..Indiana Jones will die when HF does..He is the only choice..now raise your guns and show your support!!!:gun:

:rolleyes:

Harrison Ford is the greatest actor in the history of cinema. There is no one who can even star in adventure films. Nope. He is better than Bogart, Connery, John Wayne, Gable and Brando all combined. No actor, past, present, or future can match Harrison's sweet, delicious greatness.

Mickiana
03-14-2012, 06:25 PM
Yes, Harrison is (was?) a great Indiana Jones. He is the original, so to speak, but we should remember much of the character was borrowed from past movie characters. In that way, a new Indiana Jones played by a younger actor will borrow greatly from Harrison's Indiana. In fact he will have no choice. He will have to be largely like Harrison's rendition. But the later this happens the less likeness has to occur as he will be playing to newer audiences. But the hat, jacket and whip will always be there, with that three day growth, a dame in tow and hopefully some of those contradictory characteristics typical of the earlier Harrison-Indy (makes me think of 'Brundlefly'!)

ps I heard Harrison was too great for Raiders, but after groveling at this feet for three days and three nights George Lucas managed to persuade him to lower himself to acting in a B grade flick.

mikieson
03-14-2012, 08:29 PM
:rolleyes:

Harrison Ford is the greatest actor in the history of cinema. There is no one who can even star in adventure films. Nope. He is better than Bogart, Connery, John Wayne, Gable and Brando all combined. No actor, past, present, or future can match Harrison's sweet, delicious greatness.

I dont think anyone has said HF was the greatest actor in history? BUT out of those that you mentioned,I have to say he is better but Connery would come up 2nd and the rest can blow..:) "goooooday!" 'paul harvey':hat:

Raiders112390
03-14-2012, 10:58 PM
I dont think anyone has said HF was the greatest actor in history? BUT out of those that you mentioned,I have to say he is better but Connery would come up 2nd and the rest can blow..:) "goooooday!" 'paul harvey':hat:

So let me get this straight...
Harrison Ford, who plays the same character in every movie he's in, is better than Marlon Brando, better than John Wayne, better than Humphrey Bogart, better than Clark Gable?

Are you serious? :rolleyes:

Watch Wife Force One on Youtube. Perhaps it'll open your eyes.

mikieson
03-14-2012, 11:38 PM
So let me get this straight...
Harrison Ford, who plays the same character in every movie he's in, is better than Marlon Brando, better than John Wayne, better than Humphrey Bogart, better than Clark Gable?

Are you serious? :rolleyes:

Watch Wife Force One on Youtube. Perhaps it'll open your eyes.
Like I stated to you before..everyone has their own idea of a great movie, actor, music, videogame ect..

The greatest movie of all time might be Gone With The Wind by all critiques and millions of other people..to me..My favorite movie of all time might be Waterboy..Who's to say im wrong and they are right? You cant go by a majority vote on something like this.

It might be a thing of...they are too old and before my time? I dont like older movies..never have. So in turn, I more then likely will not like the actors. I stand my ground..as in...I have my opinion on matters..HF IS INDY..you want someone else to play him, wait until im dead. As it is, we have 4 good movies to look at and reflect on..

Raiders112390
03-15-2012, 12:06 AM
Like I stated to you before..everyone has their own idea of a great movie, actor, music, videogame ect..

The greatest movie of all time might be Gone With The Wind by all critiques and millions of other people..to me..My favorite movie of all time might be Waterboy..Who's to say im wrong and they are right? You cant go by a majority vote on something like this.

It might be a thing of...they are too old and before my time? I dont like older movies..never have. So in turn, I more then likely will not like the actors. I stand my ground..as in...I have my opinion on matters..HF IS INDY..you want someone else to play him, wait until im dead. As it is, we have 4 good movies to look at and reflect on..

I don't have to wait until you're dead because your opinion thankfully doesn't dictate reality.
So, what's the cap on a movie being too old? I mean, Raiders is 31 years old. By some standards, that's an old film. It certainly is "before my time"...But that doesn't stop it from being a good movie. Just because something is "old" doesn't automatically make it "blow" to use the word you used. By refusing to give movies that are "before your time" a chance, you'll be missing out on some of the best films of all time, like Casablanca, Rio Bravo, Sabrina, The Misfits, North by Northwest, It Happened One Night, The Wild One, etc.

When the majority vote on something like a film for 70 years, or for 40 years, I think the majority is on to something. Like the majority agree that Raiders is a classic.

IndyJoey
03-15-2012, 12:13 AM
I think it would be possible... i mean, look at james bond, connery was the first, and the best, but there were more after him that were allright. Harrison will always be the best, but i think it might be possible to have another indy... it wont be the same... but it could work...

mikieson
03-15-2012, 12:47 AM
I don't have to wait until you're dead because your opinion thankfully doesn't dictate reality.
So, what's the cap on a movie being too old? I mean, Raiders is 31 years old. By some standards, that's an old film. It certainly is "before my time"...But that doesn't stop it from being a good movie. Just because something is "old" doesn't automatically make it "blow" to use the word you used. By refusing to give movies that are "before your time" a chance, you'll be missing out on some of the best films of all time, like Casablanca, Rio Bravo, Sabrina, The Misfits, North by Northwest, It Happened One Night, The Wild One, etc.

When the majority vote on something like a film for 70 years, or for 40 years, I think the majority is on to something. Like the majority agree that Raiders is a classic.
Said I dont like older movies..Never said I havent watched them. Listen, you and i wont get anywhere. Its obvious..I dont have to have a new Indy actor, you do..I dont like older films that may or may not be critically acclaimed, you do...You say tomato I say TAmato..its life.

You want someone that likes old movies especially b&w movies? I'll bring my older sister into it..she would be a good conversationalist for you..:D .As for me I like singing in the rain,wizard of oz,grease,christmas carol,I like the Andy Griffith show,and maybe a couple other older movies..

I think it would be possible... i mean, look at james bond, connery was the first, and the best, but there were more after him that were allright. Harrison will always be the best, but i think it might be possible to have another indy... it wont be the same... but it could work...

I know this is gonna blow your socks off and others here...BUT...I would accept Shai as the new Indy. Why? Well, I feel he has a good Indy vibe. He showed that to me in KOTCS. Im in the minority here on that, but its my opinion. AND why in the world would this be ok for me? HE played as Indys son. HE would just make more sense to me. More believable. AND that would go for anyone that would have played his son..It would just come off as "OK" for me to envision that.

Mickiana
03-15-2012, 05:16 AM
I know this is gonna blow your socks off and others here...BUT...I would accept Shai as the new Indy.

You have knocked my socks off! You have suggested a replacement for Harrison. Praise the Lord and pass the sauce! Of course your suggestion cannot happen as Shia is now cast as Henry Jones III. This thread is asking for replacements of Indiana Jones, something Shia clearly cannot now do.

mikieson
03-15-2012, 05:58 AM
I know this is gonna blow your socks off and others here...BUT...I would accept Shai as the new Indy.

You have knocked my socks off! You have suggested a replacement for Harrison. Praise the Lord and pass the sauce! Of course your suggestion cannot happen as Shia is now cast as Henry Jones III. This thread is asking for replacements of Indiana Jones, something Shia clearly cannot now do.
I know he is HJ3..im saying HE carries on the legacy. He's young,and already part of the history now. He would be the obvious choice to carry the torch...THEN maybe in 50 years REBOOT and start over..

Mickiana
03-15-2012, 07:01 AM
No to everything you suggest.:down: No Shia in any capacity in the Indyverse.:mad: And a reboot in under five years, PLEASE!!!:up: We're locking horns, aren't we?;)

mikieson
03-15-2012, 07:06 AM
No to everything you suggest.:down: No Shia in any capacity in the Indyverse.:mad: And a reboot in under five years, PLEASE!!!:up: We're locking horns, aren't we?;)
I said reboot in 50 years..and shai is the obvious choice to carry the torch in my opinion..everyone has this hate for him for no reason..At least we know him as Indys son. At least he's already part of the Indy universe.AND he CAN act and I feel...IF...you want to do something NOW and soon with INDY "after Indy 5" He is the only real option.

AND something tells me if Indys son would have been someone else this idea would be accepted by many of the fans. The Shai hate is unbelievable..??

Montana Smith
03-15-2012, 07:12 AM
Who the ****'s shai?

Mickiana
03-15-2012, 07:22 AM
I don't hate Shia. I just don't want him to be the heir of the hat in any way or form. Perhaps you are right when you say if it had been someone else other than Shia then that person taking on the role (as son) in continuing adventures might be acceptable, except it totally depends on who that is. So, I am not picking on Shia only. He's an obvious choice I don't want. And I know you said 50 years. I will be dead in 50 years. I want more Indy flicks sooner than later. I'm 43 and my knees are sore now! In under 5 years, dagnabbit!

mikieson
03-15-2012, 07:23 AM
Who the ****'s shai?

im sure you can figure it out..so I spelled it wrong...geesshhhh..:confused:

mikieson
03-15-2012, 07:25 AM
I don't hate Shia. I just don't want him to be the heir of the hat in any way or form. Perhaps you are right when you say if it had been someone else other than Shia then that person taking on the role (as son) in continuing adventures might be acceptable, except it totally depends on who that is. So, I am not picking on Shia only. He's an obvious choice I don't want. And I know you said 50 years. I will be dead in 50 years. I want more Indy flicks sooner than later. I'm 43 and my knees are sore now! In under 5 years, dagnabbit!

lol..oh well, at least we "sort of" got on the same page...that having his son carry the legacy would be ok..so I did "give" a little..see, im not too bad of a guy now am I?..;)...:up:

Montana Smith
03-15-2012, 07:27 AM
im sure you can figure it out..so I spelled it wrong...geesshhhh..:confused:

So you really don't know what and who you're talking about.

That figures.

Mickiana
03-15-2012, 07:28 AM
Never thought you were bad, stubborn maybe... My scintillating logic seems to be dissolving your recalcitrance! :rolleyes:

mikieson
03-15-2012, 07:31 AM
So you really don't know what and who you're talking about.

That figures.

so you really are dramatic and pesky like a child?....figures..:gun:

why come in here starting something? especially over spelling mistakes? im not in school and dont plan on going back. and could care less about a spelling mistake anyways if i was in school..:whip:

Montana Smith
03-15-2012, 07:33 AM
so you really are dramatic and pesky like a child?....figures..:gun:

why come in here starting something? especially over spelling mistakes? im not in school and dont plan on going back. and could care less about a spelling mistake anyways if i was in school..:whip:

Pesky Mutt lovers. :p

mikieson
03-15-2012, 08:13 AM
Pesky Mutt lovers. :p
Dont take my reply to heart..Hard to come off as "messing around" online sometimes..not mad or heated up..was just some online humor..and yea, I do like Shia pretty well..I mean..MUTT..:D

Raiders112390
03-15-2012, 09:18 AM
im not in school and dont plan on going back.

That explains a lot.

Finn
03-15-2012, 09:29 AM
Gang... as we've stated numerous times, The Raven has two official languages, English and Bad English. There's no need to pick on a member's spelling as long as you can understand the general message. I know it's hard to resist especially in cases when it does no favors to an argument that's shoddy as it is, but let's try and control the urge regardless.

In the end, it's the issues that should argue, keep that in mind.

Henry W Jones
03-15-2012, 10:30 AM
Well I just watched Mosquito Coast last night and really watched Harrison in the film. He was great, the role was different. I feel Harrison is far from wooden on screen. He's not the greatest actor but he is good. And all actors for the most part have something that is them that tranfers from role to role. Harrison tends to pick similar style films (WHERE'S MY FAMILY!!!!!!) but I normally don't see Indy or Han when I watch him act in other films. Shia has no business continuing the series. Just because he played his son has no bearing on whether he should continue the series. I know tons of people who's parents aren't as cool as they are and vise versa. Most of the younger actors out now are way to prissy looking and don't have that gritty edge HF does. The only actor I have ever said "he would have made a good Indy" is Dennis Quiad but he isn't much younger than Ford these days and I thought that thought in the 80s.

Dr. Gonzo
03-16-2012, 03:23 PM
I know this is gonna blow your socks off and others here...BUT...I would accept [Shia] as the new Indy. Why? Well, I feel he has a good Indy vibe. He showed that to me in KOTCS.

HE would just make more sense to me. More believable.

http://singledatingpersonals.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/YELL.gif

Pale Horse
03-16-2012, 03:41 PM
The new Indy actor hasn't been born yet.

Dr. Gonzo
03-16-2012, 03:58 PM
The new Indy actor hasn't been born yet.
Hmmm cryptic. Sounds like an Anti-Christ anecdote.

Supernatural
03-22-2012, 03:29 PM
Does anyoneone like Josh Brolin for the part? Because I do.

And for anyone who hates the idea of a reboot, he could be a grown up Mutt.
It could be a sequel. Just as long as we get rid of Le Boof.

mikieson
03-22-2012, 03:51 PM
Does anyoneone like Josh Brolin for the part? Because I do.

And for anyone who hates the idea of a reboot, he could be a grown up Mutt.
It could be a sequel. Just as long as we get rid of Le Boof.
Why do people not like Shia Labeouf? Didnt people praise him in Holes? One minute is being praised the next being thrown to the sharks..He's a good actor.Wonder if most people that hated MUTT would have hated any actor that played him? Im guessing so...Shia/MUTT is a great actor,character and I hope to see him in IndyV

The Drifter
03-22-2012, 05:02 PM
I like Shia. I have nothing at all against him. I liked him in Holes, I liked him in Disturbia, I liked him in KotCS, and I even liked him in Transformers.
But, (and that can be a very big but!), most people just don't like the character of Mutt Williams, and for that; it left a bad taste in their mouths when they think of Shia.

First impressions and all of that...

mikieson
03-22-2012, 06:46 PM
I like Shia. I have nothing at all against him. I liked him in Holes, I liked him in Disturbia, I liked him in KotCS, and I even liked him in Transformers.
But, (and that can be a very big but!), most people just don't like the character of Mutt Williams, and for that; it left a bad taste in their mouths when they think of Shia.

First impressions and all of that...
So they dont like that Indy has a son? OR they dont like how the character MUTT was written?

Supernatural
03-22-2012, 06:49 PM
Aside from the fact that I'm just not a fan of his acting and the way he handles himself in public, (drinking and driving, drunken rampage in a Walgreen's pharmacy, bragging about sleeping with Megan Fox), I find it hard to believe someone like Karen Allen and like Harrison Ford had him as a son.

Mickiana
03-22-2012, 08:26 PM
Don't like Shia or Mutt. One of the good things about Indy5 not happening is that Shia won't get to be Mutt again.

mikieson
03-22-2012, 09:34 PM
Aside from the fact that I'm just not a fan of his acting and the way he handles himself in public, (drinking and driving, drunken rampage in a Walgreen's pharmacy, bragging about sleeping with Megan Fox), I find it hard to believe someone like Karen Allen and like Harrison Ford had him as a son.
He's young..Does dumb things,says some dumb things..we grow,mature, and move on. AND if I slept with Megan Fox you better believe I would be bragging..sounds human to me?

AND any time Ive ever seen him on tv he comes off as a decent person. Does it mean he is? NO..but it means he acts right when its time..I like him pretty well. Heck if we disliked,condemned all the actors that did what he has done,I guess we wouldnt really like or have any of them to enjoy.

replican't
03-23-2012, 04:55 AM
The world doesn't need any more Indiana Jones.

A new actor? What an absurd notion. Let dead dogs lie.

Raiders112390
03-23-2012, 11:36 AM
The world doesn't need any more Indiana Jones.

A new actor? What an absurd notion. Let dead dogs lie.

That's foolish. Don't let KOTCS sour your judgement on the whole series.

replican't
03-23-2012, 11:41 AM
That's foolish. Don't let KOTCS sour your judgement on the whole series.

The world has moved on. We got two good films, a half-decent one and a craptastic one. We don't need any more. Really.

So what if he's Indiana Jones? He has a hat, a whip, does adventures. It's not a big deal if we never see him on the big screen again. He was only a cipher in the first place, not a real person.

Let him die with KoCS. He's out of time.

The Drifter
03-23-2012, 11:46 AM
The world has moved on. We got two good films, a half-decent one and a craptastic one. We don't need any more. Really.

So what if he's Indiana Jones? He has a hat, a whip, does adventures. It's not a big deal if we never see him on the big screen again. He was a cipher in the first place.

Of course we don't need another one (do we even really need movies at all?), but I, and many others would like to see him on the big screen again.
It's not gonna happen, but I would like for it to become reality.

Montana Smith
03-23-2012, 11:53 AM
The world has moved on. We got two good films, a half-decent one and a craptastic one. We don't need any more. Really.

So what if he's Indiana Jones? He has a hat, a whip, does adventures. It's not a big deal if we never see him on the big screen again. He was only cipher in the first place, not a real person.

Let him die with KoCS. He's out of time.

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/GreenGang/Indiana%20Jones/fing031.gif

I think I might be a Nexus-6 skin job as well, as Tyrell programmed me with similar thoughts.

Other anti-heroes are available.

And besides, as I wrote:

Let's face it, Indy's become a rubbish franchise. In 2008 he soiled his undies and those skidmarks just aren't going to wash out.

With George and Steven at the helm Indy'll just wear those undercrackers on the outside, Superman style, as he sets out to save the world again.

Indy's had his day until the reboots come, and that's only when they've managed to shoe-horn old 15 chins six-feet under.

And the reboots won't be nearly as good as the originals, so why bother? Indy was a Harrison Ford vehicle.

The Drifter
03-23-2012, 12:22 PM
So they dont like that Indy has a son? OR they dont like how the character MUTT was written?

Most people just don't like the character. After almost four years of haunting this board every day, and reading so many people's opinions, that is the gist of it IMO.
I have felt that way before, but now; I really wouldn't mind seeing Mutt in the fedora. I like Shia as an actor, and Mutt the character has grown on me as well.

Supernatural
03-23-2012, 12:51 PM
Really? You'd announce to the world in a egotistical and obnoxious manner something that was supposed to be private between two people?
I don't see Fox talking about it. So I think it was supposed to ber private.

He's a class act.

replican't
03-26-2012, 02:54 AM
Really? You'd announce to the world in a egotistical and obnoxious manner something that was supposed to be private between two people?
I don't see Fox talking about it. So I think it was supposed to ber private.

He's a class act.

I'm not the one trying to make a career out of getting my face on a gigantic screen in front of a paying audience as often as possible.

Actors are, you know, weird creatures.

Supernatural
03-28-2012, 01:55 PM
I'm not the one trying to make a career out of getting my face on a gigantic screen in front of a paying audience as often as possible.

Actors are, you know, weird creatures.


Sorry, that wasn't meant for you. I guess I should use the quote feature a bit more often.

Henry W Jones
03-28-2012, 10:22 PM
Watching YIJC this evening. Does anyone think SPF could pull off a 1930's Indiana Jones?

http://wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net/80556E/img.news/NE67UdBAzqml9a_1_4.jpg

While I'm not a huge YIJC fan or SPF fan or a fan of a reboot, at least if they did do a reboot he would give some consistency to the series instead of us adding another actor to the list of Indy's.

Supernatural
03-29-2012, 03:47 AM
While I'm not a huge YIJC fan or SPF fan or a fan of a reboot, at least if they did do a reboot he would give some consistency to the series instead of us adding another actor to the list of Indy's.

Such a good point.

Sir Galahad
03-29-2012, 10:35 AM
I would love to see a 20's and 30's Indiana Jones. I agree with Henry W Jones. I would pick SPF for continuity but the problem is. . . SPF is 46 while Harrison Ford was 39 when he did Raiders. The age difference would be noticeable.

Henry W Jones
03-29-2012, 11:30 AM
I would love to see a 20's and 30's Indiana Jones. I agree with Henry W Jones. I would pick SPF for continuity but the problem is. . . SPF is 46 while Harrison Ford was 39 when he did Raiders. The age difference would be noticeable.

It doesn't have to start before Raiders and I think the actor change from HF to SPF would be the most distracting not age. I also tossed out the idea more for conversation, I am not wanting a reboot at all. I feel the series should not continue without Ford and maybe someone with some creativity could come up with a similar character that is not a blatant rip off.

Rivers
03-30-2012, 03:43 AM
Have the Indy 5 teaser with SPF as a younger Indy which leads into the main story with Harrison.
I'd love it!!

Sir Galahad
03-31-2012, 12:20 PM
It doesn't have to start before Raiders and I think the actor change from HF to SPF would be the most distracting not age. I also tossed out the idea more for conversation, I am not wanting a reboot at all. I feel the series should not continue without Ford and maybe someone with some creativity could come up with a similar character that is not a blatant rip off.

I would use SPF for films before the Harrison Ford timeline (before ROTLA). That way the transition wouldn't be too distracting since the films would begin after the last episode of the Young Indiana Jones series. I always wonder what other stories we could've got if Lucas, Spielberg and Ford would've done at least two more films before KOTCS.

Supernatural
04-04-2012, 02:10 AM
It was mentioned that Short Round became an archeologist. Would you want to see Quan in a movie with a grown up Mr. Round over Mutt?

I think it sounds interesting.

Could it be any worse?

replican't
04-04-2012, 03:03 AM
It was mentioned that Short Round became an archeologist. Would you want to see Quan in a movie with a grown up Mr. Round over Mutt?

I think it sounds interesting.

Could it be any worse?

Sounds godawful.

mikieson
04-04-2012, 09:25 AM
It was mentioned that Short Round became an archeologist. Would you want to see Quan in a movie with a grown up Mr. Round over Mutt?

I think it sounds interesting.

Could it be any worse?
actually ive brought this up before..having shortround kind of going against Indy..working more for the money then the love of it...then having a change of heart along the way and both of them teaming up and kickingbutt...shortround was a great character about my favorite next to Indy. would love it if they could work him in..

replican't
04-04-2012, 10:46 AM
actually ive brought this up before..having shortround kind of going against Indy..working more for the money then the love of it...then having a change of heart along the way and both of them teaming up and kickingbutt...shortround was a great character about my favorite next to Indy. would love it if they could work him in..

A 70 year old Indy and an adult version of the annoying kid from Temple in the same film?

I better change my trousers, the excitement is uncontainable!

mikieson
04-04-2012, 10:55 AM
A 70 year old Indy and an adult version of the annoying kid from Temple in the same film?

I better change my trousers, the excitement is uncontainable!
Well the people that still accept HF as Indy would be fine with about anything..it seems the ones with the problems are the people that hate Mutt and hate thinking of a 70 year old man kicking butt still...I choose to like about anything..and KOTCS shows me HF still has it!!

Rivers
04-04-2012, 04:28 PM
A 70 year old Indy and an adult version of the annoying kid from Temple in the same film?

I better change my trousers, the excitement is uncontainable!


Remember... Harrison is 70, Indy wouldnt be.

Montana Smith
04-04-2012, 04:44 PM
I better change my trousers, the excitement is uncontainable!

[A crashing noise upstairs interrupts him.]

Baldrick: What do you think that is?

Edmund: Well, if I was feeling malicious, I would say it's the prince still trying to put his trousers on after a week.

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/GreenGang/Misc/Blackadder_Nob_and_Nobility4_4.jpg

Dr. Gonzo
04-05-2012, 12:18 PM
Remember... Harrison is 70, Indy wouldnt be.
Yeah... he'd be 65-70 :rolleyes:

Montana Smith
04-05-2012, 12:24 PM
Yeah... he'd be 65-70 :rolleyes:

...if the movie was set between 1965 and 1970...

Indiana Jones Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.

Now there's a thought.

foreignerfred
05-16-2012, 07:32 PM
I've said it, and I'll say it again.

DENNIS QUAID for 1940's Indy.

Watch this and just TRY to tell me no:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ZIJSII0LwSY

mikieson
05-16-2012, 10:24 PM
I've said it, and I'll say it again.

DENNIS QUAID for 1940's Indy.

Watch this and just TRY to tell me no:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ZIJSII0LwSY
Umm......NO..:down:

Kernunnos
05-17-2012, 05:36 AM
I think Dennis Quaid would do an absolutely superb 1940's Indy, but I doubt Harrison would be happy about it, and I'd rather see a couple more films with Harrison set in the late 50's or the 60's.

Ska
05-17-2012, 07:23 AM
It's amazing how much Quaid and Ford have such similar characteristics.

I'd be all for a Dennis Quaid Indy. Hell I'll take a Randy Quaid Indy at this point!

Montana Smith
05-17-2012, 08:11 AM
It's amazing how much Quaid and Ford have such similar characteristics.

I'd be all for a Dennis Quaid Indy.

There's 12 years of Indy left in him. Before he catches up with Harry!

mikieson
05-17-2012, 08:19 AM
There's 12 years of Indy left in him. Before he catches up with Harry!
Thing is..if we are going to have an older Indy "and Denis Quaid is older"..might as well stick with Harrison Ford. Get one more awesome Indy adventure out of him and let it be done..

THEN in 10 years OR after I die, reboot,prequels,sequels,ect what ever the people want..

Moedred
05-19-2012, 10:38 PM
Shia for 1920's recast?

http://www-deadline-com.vimg.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/lawless2__120520003431.jpg

Montana Smith
05-19-2012, 11:03 PM
:eek:




What about the guy in the passenger seat? He's bound to be a better actor than Shia, because everyone is.

Mickiana
05-20-2012, 06:57 AM
Shia's involvement with Indiana Jones: one movie too many. Not his fault though. Those responsible haven't helped him to become a competent actor, if indeed he is capable. He was miscast as Indiana Jones' son. That's it for him in the indyverse.

mikieson
05-20-2012, 10:07 AM
Shia's involvement with Indiana Jones: one movie too many. Not his fault though. Those responsible haven't helped him to become a competent actor, if indeed he is capable. He was miscast as Indiana Jones' son. That's it for him in the indyverse.
I honestly for the life of me cant find fault with Shias acting? Its not that im a huge fan. I just dont see it. I personally think he does a great job. BUT then again some people think Tom Hanks is the best actor out there...I dont..Heck I dont even like Robert DeNiro outside of "meet the parent" movies..So not everyone sees the same things. I see Shia as just as good as any of the mentioned..

emtiem
05-20-2012, 10:37 AM
I honestly for the life of me cant find fault with Shias acting? Its not that im a huge fan. I just dont see it. I personally think he does a great job. BUT then again some people think Tom Hanks is the best actor out there...I dont..Heck I dont even like Robert DeNiro outside of "meet the parent" movies..So not everyone sees the same things. I see Shia as just as good as any of the mentioned..

Agreed; he's pretty decent. 'Indy's son' could have been a disaster but I think he makes a decent job of it. He doesn't exactly steal the film, but not everyone's Sean Connery. I don't think he does anything wrong in Skull; if anything he maybe plays too safe.

Montana Smith
05-20-2012, 11:18 AM
'Indy's son' could have been a disaster

Indy's son was a disaster! :D

Shia is just Shia.

By the same token Harrison is just Harrison. Except he has some charisma. (Unless he's playing himself, in which case he's exceedingly dull and often bordering on catatonic).

Olliana
05-20-2012, 12:18 PM
Indy's son was a disaster! :D

Shia is just Shia.

By the same token Harrison is just Harrison. Except he has some charisma. (Unless he's playing himself, in which case he's exceedingly dull and often bordering on catatonic).

And people thinking Harrison is just himself in his movies is what makes him such a great actor. Because it is NOT easy to make it look like that.

Montana Smith
05-20-2012, 12:41 PM
And people thinking Harrison is just himself in his movies is what makes him such a great actor. Because it is NOT easy to make it look like that.

Harrison is a one-trick pony. But it's a very good trick.

mikieson
05-20-2012, 01:18 PM
Harrison is a one-trick pony. But it's a very good trick.
I see a very different HF in all his movies. THe 2 that are similar in ways to me would be Han and Indy..other than that he does pretty good and bringing something new each time. Good actor. Probably one of the all time best actually...and I dont even like all his movies. I just know good talent when I see it. :)

emtiem
05-20-2012, 04:47 PM
Indy's son was a disaster! :D

No, he wasn't. He didn't ruin the movie because he didn't overshadow the rest of the cast at all: Crystal Skull isn't the one people remember as 'the one with the son', for better or worse. Last Crusade is 'the one with his dad'.

Also, I'd kind of agree Ford is a one trick pony, but then something like Mosquito Coast showed that he has got more than one trick: he just never liked to use it.

Mickiana
05-21-2012, 01:18 AM
CS was like a subset of problems within a larger problem. Shia was one of those subset problems. He's young and undeveloped as an actor. He's too much himself in his roles and he's too popular, probably because of the teenage female fan base. And his role in CS, while not all his fault, was, well, I just can't say anything flattering about it.

Marshall2288
05-25-2012, 12:13 AM
This probably won't win over any popularity votes for me but I think Eric Bana, Clive Owen if he can do an American accent or even Adrian Brody (after seeing that he CAN be cool in Predators) could do a pretty good Indy.

Montana Smith
05-25-2012, 12:46 AM
This probably won't win over any popularity votes for me but I think Eric Bana, Clive Owen if he can do an American accent or even Adrian Brody (after seeing that he CAN be cool in Predators) could do a pretty good Indy.

Not sure about Adrian Brody. He's a fine and diverse actor, and there's no doubt he could play the role. But he does have a very distinctive appearance, one that might be at odds with expectations after seeing Harrison in the part for so many years.

Clive Owen could be a good choice. He's done plenty of action films, and played the reserved but dependable lead. He could pull off the Indy quirkiness, and also look the part.

But with these actors their age will be dictating the setting of the movie. With Owen a reboot would likely begin in the 1940s. (For Dennis Quaid it would be the 1950s).

If there was ever a reboot, I think a much younger actor would be in the frame, and the series (most probably for television) would start in the 1920s, when the classic movie Indy was just finding his identity.

replican't
05-25-2012, 02:45 AM
How about someone who doesnt look anything like Harrison Ford?

You want to reboot, reboot properly, like they do with Bond or Dr Who. Bring something new to the table.

Marshall2288
05-25-2012, 03:01 AM
How about someone who doesnt look anything like Harrison Ford?

You want to reboot, reboot properly, like they do with Bond or Dr Who. Bring something new to the table.

Yea I agree that they don't need to look like Harrison. Anyone with a close enough body shape can pull off the Indy shadow and look just like the real deal. I look at the Star Trek reboot. The new characters are similar in looks and style but it's a clean palate. I love Indiana Jones, not Harrison Ford. If an actor can pull off the spirit of him and nore importantly the story is right, I'm game for a reboot.

Montana Smith
05-25-2012, 03:39 AM
How about someone who doesnt look anything like Harrison Ford?

You want to reboot, reboot properly, like they do with Bond or Dr Who. Bring something new to the table.

Yea I agree that they don't need to look like Harrison. Anyone with a close enough body shape can pull off the Indy shadow and look just like the real deal. I look at the Star Trek reboot. The new characters are similar in looks and style but it's a clean palate. I love Indiana Jones, not Harrison Ford. If an actor can pull off the spirit of him and nore importantly the story is right, I'm game for a reboot.

Those are very valid points, and the reason why I really don't want to see Indy rebooted.

It's like Rise of the Planet of the Apes isn't a real Planet of the Apes story. More like a story told by somebody who didn't have all the facts. The film stands as a curiosty. Good, but not a part of the classic.

That's how I would see a rebooted Indy. It would be a retelling from a different perspective, but never the genuine article. All these years the mature Indy has been portrayed in artwork, such as book covers and comics, as Harrison (barring the original novel and some dodgy art!)

A reboot would shift him from his present comfortable parallel universe into another one.

All reasons why I'd much prefer an animated series that's able to stay with the Harrison image, and depict adventures from any year in his timeline.

Archaeos
05-25-2012, 01:16 PM
You want to reboot, reboot properly, like they do with Bond or Dr Who. Bring something new to the table.

You mean like casting Alan Cumming as the new Indy?

Montana Smith
05-25-2012, 01:37 PM
You mean like casting Alan Cumming as the new Indy?

Willie might be wearing the trousers in the Temple of Doom remake.

http://www.broadway.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/alan-cumming.jpg

Túrin Turambar
05-31-2012, 07:18 AM
The only Actor i know off that could even torch Harrison is Dennis quaid, but he's 58 now so probably forget that. You cant just change tha actor for Indy Harrison is Indy. It will happen though when the big three die, it will make lots of cash. Harry wont let it happen while he is still breathing.

wombocombo
05-31-2012, 01:36 PM
Bradley cooper - younger Indy?

Attila the Professor
06-02-2012, 05:48 PM
If Jeremy Renner were a couple years younger, he'd be a potentially compelling choice.

http://l.yimg.com/ea/im_siggMN6RvDgC.3ndMRyCKlkYIg---x360-q80/img/-/101014/jeremy_renner_style2_16bcs1b-16bcs3t.jpg

Toht's Arm
06-02-2012, 11:30 PM
If Jeremy Renner were a couple years younger, he'd be a potentially compelling choice.

But do we really need another franchise featuring this guy? He's already got the Marvel, Bourne and Mission: Impossible universes to play with...

And to be honest, whilst he was brilliant in The Hurt Locker, I don't think he's really been that impressive in those other films. I just don't see him as the charismatic hero type. He always seems so dour...

Attila the Professor
06-02-2012, 11:42 PM
I just don't see him as the charismatic hero type. He always seems so dour...

That does seem to be the knock on him, but he has the everyman thing in spades.

mikieson
06-04-2012, 07:42 AM
Josh Holloway would KILL as a new Indy..he's awesome and very much about the only person I would even consider as a new Indy.

Mickiana
06-05-2012, 03:04 AM
It's pretty stupid to let a franchise which has tons of potential die off with an actor. Indy can be more than Harrison. And when he's gone, or when he cannot play it anymore, it should be. With newer writers, newer directors. Just stick to the groundwork for the character that was developed between 1978 and 1981 and get an actor who is pretty much a Cary Grant/Clark Gable/Humphrey Bogart clone like Harrison was and it'd work. It's not a role where the actor was some amazing method actor. It's not like remaking The Godfather, where Brando created the character (the look, the way he spoke, etc). Indy isn't about an actor or even the character in terms of backstory or whatever. Indiana Jones has parameters but it's more about a vicarious existence than a character, actor based piece. It could work fine without Harrison.

I just want people to read this again. I very much agree with it.

davidgribouille
06-05-2012, 04:10 AM
Josh Holloway would KILL as a new Indy..he's awesome and very much about the only person I would even consider as a new Indy.
I actually had rather seen him as a new Han Solo, if a new Star Wars episode had been planned. He's got that sarcastic but heroic side that remind me the acting of Harrison in SW. By the way, there were a lot of reference to SW in the Lost dialogues of Sawyer.
So, yes, I do also believe that he would make a great Indy. :)
But he may be too old when a new Indy will come!!!:mad:

Montana Smith
06-05-2012, 04:21 AM
It's pretty stupid to let a franchise which has tons of potential die off with an actor. Indy can be more than Harrison. And when he's gone, or when he cannot play it anymore, it should be. With newer writers, newer directors. Just stick to the groundwork for the character that was developed between 1978 and 1981 and get an actor who is pretty much a Cary Grant/Clark Gable/Humphrey Bogart clone like Harrison was and it'd work. It's not a role where the actor was some amazing method actor. It's not like remaking The Godfather, where Brando created the character (the look, the way he spoke, etc). Indy isn't about an actor or even the character in terms of backstory or whatever. Indiana Jones has parameters but it's more about a vicarious existence than a character, actor based piece. It could work fine without Harrison.

The way I see it is this: what gives Indiana Jones any more potential than a host of other action/adventure types?

Back in 1981 it was, for me, an excursion into 1930s pulp adventure. Then I saw the movie, and it was Harrison who made that character all the more interesting. It was him that gave the series real potential.

Anyone else in the role now will be little more than an Indiana Jones impersonator. And there have been plenty of them over the years in films, and they rarely come close to the original.

As a franchise, which is really the wrong term, but we all know what we mean when we say it, its success will be based largely on the history of the Indiana Jones name. It has a built-in pedigree, making it easier to get something into production and for people to go and see it. It's simpler to continue something than to begin something new from scratch.

But do we want the Indy name to be used simply to pass off sub-par movies like KOTCS?

The original trilogy sat well for almost two decades, until Lucas brought Indy out of retirement for another last adventure.

Indiana Jones wasn't like Bond. Lucas didn't simply hire a new actor because the original was no longer in the usually accepted age-range. He followed the story on the big screen with one man.

Bond was a different concept. With a number of the actors the character's birthdate was shifted, so that the stories were always contemporary. They rebooted over time in the same manner of comic-book characters.

If you put a new actor into Indiana Jones, covering the same period as Harrison, then it's a reboot. It loses pedigree, yet plays on the name. It might as well be a new character with a fresh world to explore. There's much less baggage and expectation involved.

Archaeos
06-05-2012, 05:52 AM
I second that statement of yours, Montana :up: .

Marshall2288
06-05-2012, 06:46 AM
I just want Indy stuff. Movies, video games, books. As long as I'm getting my fix then it's all good!

Mickiana
06-05-2012, 06:57 AM
The way I see it is this: what gives Indiana Jones any more potential than a host of other action/adventure types?

Back in 1981 it was, for me, an excursion into 1930s pulp adventure. Then I saw the movie, and it was Harrison who made that character all the more interesting. It was him that gave the series real potential.

Anyone else in the role now will be little more than an Indiana Jones impersonator. And there have been plenty of them over the years in films, and they rarely come close to the original.

As a franchise, which is really the wrong term, but we all know what we mean when we say it, its success will be based largely on the history of the Indiana Jones name. It has a built-in pedigree, making it easier to get something into production and for people to go and see it. It's simpler to continue something than to begin something new from scratch.

But do we want the Indy name to be used simply to pass off sub-par movies like KOTCS?

The original trilogy sat well for almost two decades, until Lucas brought Indy out of retirement for another last adventure.

Indiana Jones wasn't like Bond. Lucas didn't simply hire a new actor because the original was no longer in the usually accepted age-range. He followed the story on the big screen with one man.

Bond was a different concept. With a number of the actors the character's birthdate was shifted, so that the stories were always contemporary. They rebooted over time in the same manner of comic-book characters.

If you put a new actor into Indiana Jones, covering the same period as Harrison, then it's a reboot. It loses pedigree, yet plays on the name. It might as well be a new character with a fresh world to explore. There's much less baggage and expectation involved.

A well worded argument, yet I still don't agree. Indiana Jones can go beyond Harrison, who did help to define the role and, yes, CS was sub par, but I hope for a redemptive effort in the form of a soon-to-happen Indy5. Everyone worries that an Indy5 won't be satisfying with an old Indy but I think something good can still be done. After that, a worthy successor can assume the mantle for more adventures set in earlier times. Call them reboots or whatever, I don't care about the definitions, I for one would love to see more well done Indiana Jones movies after Harrison has definitely hung up his whip and hat.

mikieson
06-05-2012, 07:34 AM
I actually had rather seen him as a new Han Solo, if a new Star Wars episode had been planned. He's got that sarcastic but heroic side that remind me the acting of Harrison in SW. By the way, there were a lot of reference to SW in the Lost dialogues of Sawyer.
So, yes, I do also believe that he would make a great Indy. :)
But he may be too old when a new Indy will come!!!:mad:
heck yea...i'll take him as either or both..:D...i love josh, he's freakin awesome.

Montana Smith
06-05-2012, 07:48 AM
heck yea...i'll take him as either or both..:D...i love josh, he's freakin awesome.

I could see Josh playing the cynical and roguish Han. The kind of guy who'd only help the Rebellion for a profit.

In another universe:

Only if the gorgeous Evangeline Lilly becomes his Marion, in which case I won't even notice that Josh is Indy.

I can see him going all out for fortune and glory, and once in a while referring to Marion as "freckles". ;)

mikieson
06-05-2012, 07:52 AM
I could see Josh playing the cynical and roguish Han. The kind of guy who'd only help the Rebellion for a profit.

In another universe:



I can see him going all out for fortune and glory, and once in a while referring to Marion as "freckles". ;)
you guys have my full attention now..:D...im a huge LOSTIE..have a group on facebook if any of you wanna join? Its full of good people and its active..as much as I love Indy,Rocky,StarWars,Back To The Future,Goonies,ect...LOST for me is a whole other beast..its my favorite EVERYTHING..:up:

Montana Smith
06-05-2012, 12:45 PM
you guys have my full attention now..:D...im a huge LOSTIE..have a group on facebook if any of you wanna join? Its full of good people and its active..as much as I love Indy,Rocky,StarWars,Back To The Future,Goonies,ect...LOST for me is a whole other beast..its my favorite EVERYTHING..:up:

You mean that Lost's "your favourite other" !

I have lot's of favourite others, too!


Lost is a case much like Indiana Jones. Something special that comes along once in a while.

What makes IJ a cut above for me is largely due to the Harrison/Indy dynamic. So anything less will be an inferior imitation forever overshadowed by the classic.

Even though the last movie was 2008, Harrison is still technically Indy until he's replaced. So, for over thirty years that single actor has been associated with the mature version of the character.

To the younger generations maybe that doesn't seem so significant, because they haven't had 31 years of Harrison/Indy burned into their consciousness! :)

mikieson
06-05-2012, 12:54 PM
You mean that Lost's "your favourite other" !

I have lot's of favourite others, too!


Lost is a case much like Indiana Jones. Something special that comes along once in a while.

What makes IJ a cut above for me is largely due to the Harrison/Indy dynamic. So anything less will be an inferior imitation forever overshadowed by the classic.

Even though the last movie was 2008, Harrison is still technically Indy until he's replaced. So, for over thirty years that single actor has been associated with the mature version of the character.

To the younger generations maybe that doesn't seem so significant, because they haven't had 31 years of Harrison/Indy burned into their consciousness! :)
lol..since 2004 the word OTHERS has never been the same with me..LOL..:D..and yes you are correct. People now days dont understand "lasting talent"...most actors and musicians are here today,gone tomorrow. They dont have what it takes to be where they are. HF IS INDY..no doubt..and it does mean something to us older people. very much agree..

EvilEmperorZoRG
06-21-2012, 02:43 PM
End With Harrison!!!

mikieson
06-21-2012, 04:34 PM
SO if you are like me and would rather NOBODY play Indy but HF..HOW would you feel about a PRE-INDY movie with say a young Henry Sr?

Dr.Jonesy
06-21-2012, 05:03 PM
SO if you are like me and would rather NOBODY play Indy but HF..HOW would you feel about a PRE-INDY movie with say a young Henry Sr?

It wouldn't work or be canon with what is established about him in LC.

Henry Sr. wouldn't have an Indy type film.

"He's an academic, book worm. He's not a field man."

"It's a new experience for me."

Marshall2288
06-21-2012, 06:34 PM
SO if you are like me and would rather NOBODY play Indy but HF..HOW would you feel about a PRE-INDY movie with say a young Henry Sr?
We've already been there and did that with the Young Indiana Jones show.

mikieson
06-21-2012, 06:59 PM
We've already been there and did that with the Young Indiana Jones show.
it wasnt so much about Sr it was about young Indy. if im not mistaken??

replican't
06-22-2012, 10:15 AM
End With Harrison!!!

It already has, don't panic.

Marshall2288
06-22-2012, 10:35 PM
it wasnt so much about Sr it was about young Indy. if im not mistaken??
it was about Young Indy but the 1st season in particular has a lot of Henry Sr in it. Enough so to get a feel about his life that I think a movie about him would be really boring.