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ATMachine
03-28-2008, 01:25 PM
Recently, thanks to a friend at university, I got hold of a 1989 CD known as The Story of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. It's a CD-length audio drama that combines dialogue lines spoken in the movie with descriptive narration by John Rhys-Davies.

However, as the CD was assembled before Last Crusade's final cut was locked, it contains a staggering amount of alternate takes, different lines, and references to deleted scenes.

A list follows:

-Donovan's thugs have an extra dialogue line when they confront Indy at Barnett College, and the narrator tells us that they show Indy the guns under their coats.

-When Indy reads the Grail tablet in Donovan's apartment, he mentions that the entrance to the Canyon of the Crescent Moon is "broad enough only for one man". Much later, as Indy and his father are following Donovan to the Grail temple, they witness the Nazis blasting open the canyon entrance with explosives.

-When Donovan mentions Indy's father as a Grail scholar, he points out that Henry has "occupied the chair of Medieval Studies at Princeton for nearly two decades." It would seem Lucas had Henry Sr. pegged as a Princeton man long before he made Young Indy.

-There's a description of a deleted scene aboard Donovan's airplane, in which Indy discovers his father's reproduction of Donovan's Grail tablet, which he later produces in the Venetian catacombs.

-There are a couple of alternate lines when Indy enters the Venetian library, and again when his father laments the destruction of the (fake) Ming vase.

-When Indy tries to bluff his way into Castle Brunwald, the butler says "And if you are a Scottish lord, then I am Mae West."

-As Indy and Henry board the Zeppelin, they notice two biplanes, not one, hanging from its belly. Once on board, Indy notices a Gestapo agent (who was played by Pat Roach but cut from the film). He ducks into a crew compartment, and when the Nazi follows him inside, he knocks him out. Indy stuffs the body into a locker, then notices a radio nearby. Indy breaks the radio wires before rejoining his father. When Indy and Henry get into the biplane, it's mentioned again that their biplane is only one of two.

(The reason for the extra biplane is mentioned on TheRaider.net's main site, but I'll describe it for those who don't know: in a deleted scene after Indy and Henry have escaped, Pat Roach wakes up and realizes the Joneses have made off with a biplane. The Gestapo man recruits a WWI flying ace from the passenger lounge to fly the second biplane in pursuit, but the ace is so drunk that he forgets to start the biplane engine before takeoff, sending them plummeting to earth.)

-We hear that Sallah meets Indy and Henry at the Iskenderun train station, and get a line of dialogue from that cut scene.

I have audio clips from the passages in question, if anyone would like me to upload them.

metalinvader
03-28-2008, 01:27 PM
I have audio clips from the passages in question, if anyone would like me to upload them.


I think I speak for all of us...

PLEASE DO!!!:D

torao
03-28-2008, 02:28 PM
Thank you for sharing this with us, AtMachine.
We really seem to get spoiled these days. Uhm, in a positive way that is, of course.

It would be fantastic if you could upload these.

ATMachine
03-28-2008, 02:43 PM
Okay, here are the files. In cases of alternate dialogue, I've also extracted contrasting audio clips from the films for comparison.

Donovan's henchmen show Indy their guns (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyhenchmen1.wav)

Donovan refers to Henry as a Princeton professor (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indydadjob1.wav)

The scene in the film omits the reference to Henry's place of employment (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyfilmdadjob1.wav)

Indy reads the Grail tablet in Donovan's apartment, which mentions the narrowness of the canyon (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indytablet1.wav)

The Grail tablet in the finished edit lacks the phrase "broad enough only for one man" (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyfilmtablet1.wav)

During the plane flight, Indy looks through the Grail Diary (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyplane1.wav)

Indy expresses awe at the architecture of the Venetian library (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indylibrary1.wav)

In the final film Indy is less appreciative (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyfilmlibrary1.wav)

The Castle Brunwald butler's "Mae West" line (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indybutler1.wav)

The film version of the butler scene, with the "Mickey Mouse" line (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyfilmbutler1.wav)

Indy has a slightly alternate reaction to being hit on the head when first meeting his father in Castle Brunwald (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyvase1.wav)

The final film version of Indy's response to Henry's attack with a vase (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyfilmvasec1.wav)

The zeppelin scene where Indy breaks the radio, and two biplanes are described (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyzeppelin1.wav)

Sallah meets Indy and Henry at the Iskenderun train station (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyiskenderun1.wav)

The Nazis blast open the entrance to the Grail Temple (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indyexplosiona1.wav)

There are a couple of minor skips in the audio files, but nothing that would affect the important dialogue, or create playback problems.

ResidentAlien
03-28-2008, 03:08 PM
These are very reminiscent to the tape from the read-along children's book.

torao
03-28-2008, 03:13 PM
Thanks for uploading all of it. Quite interesting. Ford's "no" at the end of the "fly, yes - land, no" line made me laugh a bit.

ATMachine
03-28-2008, 03:16 PM
I forgot one deleted scene! When Indy and Elsa are trapped in the burning catacombs, the CD's narrator describes how they swim through a broken wall into an adjoining storm drain, before reaching the manhole and gaining the surface.

The audio file of Indy and Elsa swimming to safety (http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/indystormdrain1.wav)

This scene is also in the Marvel comic book, by the way, as are many of the ones I posted about above.

Stoo
03-28-2008, 03:30 PM
ATMachine, I can't thank you enough for posting these!!! You've unearthed a treasure!
Great to finally hear the Mae West line. I still can't believe the wealth of extra stuff!!!
("The Story of the Empire Strikes Back LP has alternate/extra dialogue but nothing
compared to this.)

I'm nuts for deleted scenes so, once again...Thank you, thank you , thank you!:hat:

Inbanana
03-28-2008, 03:53 PM
Wow... great find! Thanks for sharing these...

Attila the Professor
03-28-2008, 05:15 PM
Hearing the original version of the vase bit all but confirms for me what I already suspected, that the cross-purposes dialogue in that bit was nearly all Tom Stoppard.

ATMachine
03-28-2008, 05:21 PM
I think Stoppard was also responsible for the "slime of humanity" line; the Marvel comic and novelization both say "this bunch of madmen".

Attila the Professor
03-28-2008, 05:31 PM
I think Stoppard was also responsible for the "slime of humanity" line; the Marvel comic and novelization both say "this bunch of madmen".

I should do this once I have the book with me again, but any recollection on their conversation in the zeppelin, in terms of differences?

ATMachine
03-28-2008, 06:34 PM
I should do this once I have the book with me again, but any recollection on their conversation in the zeppelin, in terms of differences?
Actually, since the audio drama had to be shortened to fit on one CD, the conversation is very short; there's no mention of Elsa, only the three trials. But in the novel (which was pre-Stoppard) the Elsa conversation is exactly the same save a few extra lines, as is the talk about the trials. (Most notably, Indy asks what exactly Elsa said in her sleep, and Henry replies "Mein Fuhrer.")

Moedred
04-11-2008, 10:50 PM
This is really brilliant, ATMachine! If you wanted to upload the whole thing that would be fine. I love Davies' narration. How long is the disc? Maybe if it's short enough they'll rerelease the the others (http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e9125985/IJC/Library/QGbooks_e.htm) on one compilation...
The Story of Last Crusade; Dialog from the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack; 12 pages photo book [5008-70656-4]
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom/Dc238 Cassette [Hotho & Co, 1984, 9997017935]
The Raiders audio book on cassette has alternate scenes too!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99667814@N00/128752330/
This is a sealed copy of Raiders of the Lost Ark:The Movie on Cassette which contains the most important parts of the films dialoge and music without narration. Also included is a 24 page booklet with some of the best pictures from the film you'll find anywhere and a nice, gatefold cover with the international Drew Struzan poster art of the front. There are also 4 scenes on this album which are audio outtakes, different from those in the finished film. By CBS Records, 1981.
More details here: http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?t=11283

ReggieSnake
04-15-2008, 11:19 PM
This is really brilliant, ATMachine! If you wanted to upload the whole thing that would be fine.Would you upload it, Please? I'd love to hear the whole thing.:D

Major West
04-25-2008, 08:56 PM
I've got the Temple of Doom cassette.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6854/1000286ub2.jpg

indyclone25
08-24-2008, 06:38 AM
i have this on cd the story of last crusade-- and if anyone wants a copy i'm willing to trade for something similar? or what you think is fair --- i have made copies in the past for friends and they love the story -----let me know----------------- i'm hoping that i get this new record player that you can play that you plug into your computer and it makes files of the records and that way i can transfer better copies of the stories of raiders of the lost ark and temple of doom to cds also---- but that won't be until sept. when my birthday comes on the ninth

Udvarnoky
08-24-2008, 02:02 PM
ATM, does the CD happen to include the original "donated by the finest Jewish families in Germany" line when Donovan is giving the gifts to the Sultan?

indyclone25
08-24-2008, 02:49 PM
ATM, does the CD happen to include the original "donated by the finest Jewish families in Germany" line when Donovan is giving the gifts to the Sultan?



no it doesnt' it is narrated that vogel. donavon and elsa are hepled by the sultan and that they were afforded tanks and trucks

IndyCon
08-26-2008, 07:22 PM
This is great it's nice to find things like this after so many years.

Moedred
04-01-2009, 07:31 PM
Found the whole thing, sandwiched into some yutz's podcasts.
How does one turn this into a single download?
Indyclone, can you provide an image?
-----
The Story of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Music by John Williams, story by Ted Kryczko.
Narrated by John Rhys-Davies.
CD-015 Buena Vista Records, UPC: 5008-70656-2
Burbank, Calif. p1989. 51:15 min.
The Adventure Begins 5:02, Donovan 8:37, The Catacombs 7:11, Brunwald Castle 11:01, Berlin 10:20, The Final Challenge 9:04.
https://podcast.ic.sunysb.edu//blojsom_resources/meta/destinies/Destinies051608.m4a
https://podcast.ic.sunysb.edu//blojsom_resources/meta/destinies/Destinies052308.m4a

Edit: Or it's available for purchase here.
http://soundtrack-mp3-1-60.lyricstemple.com/350c0306.html

indyclone25
04-01-2009, 07:44 PM
this is what the cd looks like
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/indyclone25/scan0001-10.jpg

if you want a copy of the story of last crusade pm me

Moedred
04-01-2009, 08:31 PM
Wow, you're fast! I realize I could have just sought google images. Here are the best (http://pics.livejournal.com/moedred/pic/0001yfxs) two (http://pics.livejournal.com/moedred/pic/00020cg0) I found.
I may pm you later, right now I'm just enjoying those podcasts. "Their trails of dust merged into one as they rode over the horizon toward home." Sigh.

What we really need are digital versions of the "Story of" Temple of Doom and the Raiders "Movie on Cassette." Hopefully someone needn't tear open their sealed copies...

indyclone25
04-01-2009, 08:34 PM
i have transferred both temple and raiders to sound files and have them on my mp3 player if you want them i can burn them to a disc so you can have the stories and put them on your ipod or mp3 player
:D

Moedred
04-02-2009, 01:13 AM
In this version, Rough Rider (?) says "Sure enough, that little darlin's gonna fetch us top dollar." Connery says "The floor is on fire, see? And the chair, and it's approaching the table!" Which is a nice find but methinks belabors the joke.

It's a treat to hear the raw audio without music from "Elsa never really believed in the Grail" to "follow me, I know the way!" Crank it, it's just the guys and the horses moving around.

indyclone25
04-02-2009, 10:58 AM
and don't forget the butler says "if you are scottish lord, then i am mae west"

InexorableTash
04-02-2009, 11:42 AM
MP3s for Raiders:

http://dartmansworldofwonder.blogspot.com/2007/07/indiana-jones-raids-your-ears.html

High-quality album art for all three "Story of" albums:

http://ozlopesjr.multiply.com/photos/album/99/INDIANA_JONES_TRILHAS

Moedred
04-02-2009, 01:54 PM
Heh, Indy to Belloq: "Why don'cha come down and look, I'll show ya, it's fantastic."

InexorableTash
04-02-2009, 11:02 PM
Story of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: m4a via podcast, same as the links above:

https://podcast.ic.sunysb.edu//blojsom_resources/meta/destinies/Destinies100292.m4a
https://podcast.ic.sunysb.edu//blojsom_resources/meta/destinies/Destinies100992.m4a

Anyone have the track names and times?

indyclone25
04-03-2009, 09:42 AM
they never had track names since it was never released on cd --- it was just side one and side two from the album or cassette,

Moedred
04-03-2009, 02:26 PM
Changed the title to incorporate the trilogy.

Those podcasts were found here (https://podcast.ic.sunysb.edu/weblog/destinies/?month=5&year=2008).

indyclone25
04-03-2009, 02:28 PM
when i grew up i listen to the raiders of the lost ark : movie on record so much that i had to buy another one , and the temple of doom was also a great listen , then when last crusade came out i had gotten that on cassette and then found them on cd --- i was a t a dollar store a year later and found the last crusade cds for a buck and bought 8 i gave a few to my friends and then sat on many of them til last year where i had put a few on ebay and made some extra money to buy my indy figures , wish i would have bought more back in 1990 oh well what can you do,

indyclone25
04-03-2009, 02:47 PM
the booklet pics from last crusade
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/indyclone25/scan0008-6.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/indyclone25/scan0003-4.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/indyclone25/scan0004-5.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/indyclone25/scan0005-5.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/indyclone25/scan0006-5.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/indyclone25/scan0007-3.jpg

indyclonejr
04-06-2009, 12:20 PM
my dad did a great job putting them into sound files and putting them on cds --- i listen to them in the car when we have long trips , my dad friends love that he did them too

indyclone25
04-06-2009, 01:38 PM
there is a website called read-along adventures.com that has various star wars stories and indy short records from the 80's
check it out here http://www.readalongadventures.com/



and this website has temple of doom also which you can download or just listen to
http://www.mdp156.com/cavern/index.html

Moedred
04-13-2009, 01:23 PM
Other slight differences:
"Welcome home, old boy. To your very good health."
"Don't worry, this is kids play."
And the whole "You betrayed Shiva" sequence has no music... fascinating.

Rocket Surgeon
04-18-2009, 07:02 PM
I have this as well...nice share! :hat:

Notice the deleted scene from this part of the booklet?:up:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/indyclone25/scan0006-5.jpg


They show Indy, Henry, Sallah and Marus watching the demolition of the entrance to the Canyon...:cool:

Moedred
04-19-2009, 04:45 PM
http://www.theraider.net/films/crusade/gallery/deleted/crusade_deleted_13.jpg
More deleted pix on the main site.

indyclone25
04-20-2009, 02:39 PM
like i said before these are great to hear again --- th e raiders of the lost ark story on record was my favorite you could just envision the scenes ... when i was a kid of about fifteen - i would lock myself in my room and draw and listen to that record over and over again ,now my son listens to them , what a great way to pass down these collected stories .

Rocket Surgeon
04-21-2009, 09:10 AM
like i said before these are great to hear again --- th e raiders of the lost ark story on record was my favorite you could just envision the scenes ... when i was a kid of about fifteen - i would lock myself in my room and draw and listen to that record over and over again ,now my son listens to them , what a great way to pass down these collected stories .

I used to have Raiders on casette, but now have it and Temple on LP.
Is Temple like Raiders..no narrarator?

indyclone25
04-21-2009, 11:11 AM
no temple has a narrator --- it was done by the disney group buena vista-- i do believe --- not that it's a bad thing but it was very well done , let me know if you would like both of those on cd - i have transferred my records to mp3 format and can put them on a disc for you --- if intereted just pm me .

Robyn
04-21-2009, 08:50 PM
Are the alternate scenes on the Raiders record, still Harrison's voice?

indyclone25
04-21-2009, 10:57 PM
its all harrison and all the actors from the movie

Robyn
04-22-2009, 08:15 AM
its all harrison and all the actors from the movie

Do you know if they had the actors make alternate parts specially for the record or did they use cut clips from the film?

btw thanks for all these links guys! These are great!! I've never been able to hear the Raiders record until now

Rocket Surgeon
04-22-2009, 08:53 AM
Do you know if they had the actors make alternate parts specially for the record or did they use cut clips from the film?

btw thanks for all these links guys! These are great!! I've never been able to hear the Raiders record until now

I'm not positive, but it seems more than likely that these were alternate takes/rehearsal clips.

Makes you wonder what cool gag reel/blooper cuts are out there!
:D

Robyn
04-22-2009, 10:51 AM
I'm not positive, but it seems more than likely that these were alternate takes/rehearsal clips.

Makes you wonder what cool gag reel/blooper cuts are out there!
:D

I'm still waiting for the day when we get a real special edition edition dvd!

indyclone25
07-10-2009, 02:04 PM
hopefully when the blu ray is released they will have the making of raiders and temple and last crusade on each disc too

Moedred
07-21-2009, 10:33 PM
Here's the whole enchilada, rolled together with Goldwave Multiquence. Perfect for summer road trips! Preserved indyclone25's MP3 format and 128 kbps each. All credit belongs to him.

Raiders of the Lost Ark: The Movie on Record
45:08 minutes
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zv2f6p
The Story of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
46:52 minutes
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qmgzgc
The Story of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
51:16 minutes
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ej5h88

indyclone25
07-22-2009, 10:44 AM
Here's the whole enchilada, rolled together with Goldwave Multiquence. Perfect for summer road trips! Preserved indyclone25's MP3 format and 128 kbps each. All credit belongs to him.

Raiders of the Lost Ark: The Movie on Record
45:08 minutes
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zv2f6p
The Story of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
46:52 minutes
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qmgzgc
The Story of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
51:16 minutes
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ej5h88



i know you will all enjoy these and remember them from the days of long ago, i know i still love to listen to them and relive my youth . :D

Rocket Surgeon
07-22-2009, 10:58 AM
Thanks for the links/mp3s. Man, that narrator on the Temple version brings me back...that guy did voices for so many records...from Star Trek to Spider Man, (not to comprehensive alphabetically!), and I still hate his voice! I can't be any happier they didn't mess with Raiders. Any one I knew who picked this up had already seen the movie...and that's why we picked it up! Sounds/Voices and Music. Thank The Lord there was no voice overs!

Come to think of it this product line parallels the films in certain regards.

Raiders was stand alone and didn't need anything, no explanation, nothing else. (Ben Burt's sounds John Williams Music and the actors performances...you could close your eyes and see the film!)

Temple, fun and wild but ultimately a big wet nurse. (I don't want someone reading the story to me! I'd rather hear the sounds clearly and figure it out for myself!)

Crusade, they made a good faith effort bringing Sallah back, (great to see, interesting to hear), but didn't really use him that well.

Thanks again for the links...hooking up the turn table just got knocked down the priority list

indyclone25
08-10-2009, 10:28 AM
yeah temple of doom seemed the weakest with the narration and the last crusade had john rhys doing the narration and it was very nice , but i think abit confusing for the little ones who would listen to it hearing him narrate and the having his movie lines ----

indyclone25
08-28-2009, 11:30 AM
sorry to post again ---- but has anyone downloaded the stories and what did you think of them? let us have your reviews:
either by remembering them as kids
or listening for the first time ? let's hear what you think ?

indyclone25
01-13-2010, 08:32 AM
Here's the whole enchilada, rolled together with Goldwave Multiquence. Perfect for summer road trips! Preserved indyclone25's MP3 format and 128 kbps each. All credit belongs to him.

Raiders of the Lost Ark: The Movie on Record
45:08 minutes
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zv2f6p
The Story of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
46:52 minutes
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qmgzgc
The Story of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
51:16 minutes
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ej5h88


the links are no longer available, sad to say .

Moedred
01-13-2010, 01:15 PM
Yeah, sendspace changed its policies, so I moved everything to mediafire, which is linked through the home page listed on my profile.

indyclone25
01-14-2010, 07:54 AM
i have uploaded the stories to raiders and temple of doom to this link --- sometime in the future i will download last crusade http://drop.io/pitp8s8#
--- when you click on the story you can either listen to it or download it , so enjoy

Rocket Surgeon
01-14-2010, 08:57 AM
...what did you think of them? let us have your reviews: either by remembering them as kids or listening for the first time ? let's hear what you think ?

As kids my brother and I would listen while we were supposed to be asleep, eventually quoting Raiders in response to our parents...accents and all.

We used to call our house Stalag 13 so you might imagine how well the german accents went over.

Montana Smith
01-14-2010, 09:10 AM
As kids my brother and I would listen while we were supposed to be asleep, eventually quoting Raiders in response to our parents...accents and all.

We used to call our house Stalag 13 so you might imagine how well the german accents went over.

While all the other kids were playing cowboys and indians, Rocket and his brother were busy digging their way to freedom!

indyclone25
01-14-2010, 01:06 PM
here is the link to last crusade http://drop.io/x5vb953# that way if you don't have it now you can download it and enjoy it whenever!:D