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Nurhachi1991
03-30-2008, 12:59 AM
i just got done watching raiders and noticed something when indy got on the nazi submarine his hat was missing he diddnt have it the rest of the movie. than at the end after he gets out of the meeting in washington his hat is grey it was a different hat.......... so the hat he got as a kid was lost :confused: :confused:

Michael24
03-30-2008, 01:29 AM
Maybe Katanga found it in his quarters after the Nazis left and mailed it to Sallah, who then mailed it back to Indy in the States. :D

ResidentAlien
03-30-2008, 02:05 AM
He loses his hat several times in the original screenplay.

If I remember, at the scene where he boards the sub, it says something like "he finally loses his hat once and for all."

Gear
03-30-2008, 02:49 AM
He left it in his quarters on the boat along with his jacket and satchal I believe.

The Nazi's didn't touch it.

Finn
03-30-2008, 04:44 AM
so the hat he got as a kid was lost :confused: :confused: It says nowhere it was just that hat.

Violet Indy
03-30-2008, 04:57 AM
He lost it in the novelisation which was weird. He complains to Eaton about it at the end that finding the ark costed him his favourite hat, which was kind of funny.

Gear
03-30-2008, 06:03 AM
He complains to Eaton about it at the end that finding the ark costed him his favourite hat, which was kind of funny.

Thats funny. But I dont like that twist...

Professor Jones
03-30-2008, 07:49 AM
It says nowhere it was just that hat.

I was about to saying the same thing. Apparently (the gray hat proves that) Indy has several hats.

Blue Jay
03-30-2008, 08:30 AM
the hat he got as a kid in LC was not the same hat at all. if you compare the pics, the hat fedora gave young indy is clearly different.
Ohh, i would say that he left his hat with the bantu wind as well as his leather jacket, the whip, the gun belt, his bag etc...

Nurhachi1991
03-30-2008, 01:43 PM
see i always thought it was the hat fedora gave him as a kid as well as the hat he had in the young indiana jones series

The_Raiders
03-30-2008, 04:30 PM
Hmm, you say in the end he had a grey one, he wears that same one when he gets on te plane to Nepal, I think it'sthe same hat he always wears just different lighting, and I always figured Katanga just managed to get it back to him some how. And the bonus footage of how tey made RAIDERS, they only talked about using one hat, no more. :hat:

metalinvader
03-30-2008, 04:45 PM
Indy does have a grey fedora in Raiders.Look when he boards the sea plane and at the very end...

Indy also wore a gray travel fedora with his suits, both on the seaplane trip to Nepal, and while standing on the government building steps with Marion, at the very end of the film.

http://www.kennydrew.com/Indylounge/indyfedora.htm

Nurhachi1991
03-30-2008, 05:28 PM
i couldnt see Katanga mailing it back to him

Nurhachi1991
03-30-2008, 05:29 PM
Indy does have a grey fedora in Raiders.Look when he boards the sea plane and at the very end...



http://www.kennydrew.com/Indylounge/indyfedora.htm



that explains everything thanks for sharing that

Kooshmeister
04-01-2008, 04:25 PM
i couldnt see Katanga mailing it back to him

Why not? He was willing to lie about him being dead to prevent the Nazis from searching for him, when it would've been easy to just sell him out; surely he'd do him the comparatively small favor of finding his hat and returning it to him.

Moedred
04-01-2008, 08:23 PM
He lost it in the novelisation
He also lost it on the Coronado, in the Crusade novelization. The wind blew it back into the empty cabin as he was sneaking out, but he just shrugged and continued. Which doesn't jive with the iconic film shot. (What the hey, MacGregor?)

Attila the Professor
04-01-2008, 09:29 PM
He also lost it on the Coronado, in the Crusade novelization. The wind blew it back into the empty cabin as he was sneaking out, but he just shrugged and continued. Which doesn't jive with the iconic film shot. (What the hey, MacGregor?)

This would sort of surprise me, but perhaps, and someone could check on this in the shooting script or some early version of it, the shot wasn't originally planned as a transition.

Uki
04-04-2008, 07:05 AM
In the new junior novels, he leaves it on the ship in the cabin before swimming out to the sub. I guess Katanga does send it to him. It's implied, despite differences in design, that it is indeed the same hat through all his adventures. If we can let his personal appearance slide (older in Temple, young again in Raiders) much older in LC, then the hat is a gimme...

Chiliana Jones
04-04-2008, 08:25 AM
he left the hat back on the bantu wind and katanga sendt it back to him. how i know? well you see that Indy wears the gray hat and the blue suit when he leaves for nepal and so on. he would have left those things with his other stuff on the ship too with the rest of his luggage when he went after the submarine. as we all know, He wears the gray hat and blue suit in the end of the movie.

in the script, Indy even looses the hat when he runs from the boulder. that didnt happen in the movie, did it now? :rolleyes:


CJ

Nurhachi1991
04-04-2008, 08:57 AM
he left the hat back on the bantu wind and katanga sendt it back to him. how i know? well you see that Indy wears the gray hat and the blue suit when he leaves for nepal and so on. he would have left those things with his other stuff on the ship too with the rest of his luggage when he went after the submarine. as we all know, He wears the gray hat and blue suit in the end of the movie.

in the script, Indy even looses the hat when he runs from the boulder. that didnt happen in the movie, did it now? :rolleyes:


CJ



Your just a tad bit late............. :)

Chiliana Jones
04-04-2008, 01:34 PM
Your just a tad bit late............. :)



well um... better late then never, right? um....dang..:o

Gear
04-05-2008, 12:31 AM
Since Indy's hat is under interagation.
I've read everyone's posts before hand but didn't find my answer so I'll ask it now, if I may.

Is the classic Fadora of the serries truly suppost to be the hat he was given as a kid, or does he actualy have more than one brown adventure fadora? I'm sorry but the replys on this post are somewhat confusing. As for small differences in the hats appearance, well, Uki put it best. There are always flaws in movies.

You question his hat?

If "Indiana Jones" had actualy been through every thing he endured in the serries he would come out looking pretty sorry, to put it mildly...

Chiliana Jones
04-05-2008, 12:58 AM
indy is known for being " the man with the hat". notice it says "hat" and not "Hats" :p

he carried the same brown hat on all his adventures ( and sometimes regular.must be when he just had it cleaned and reblocked) and used his new gray hat as the regular so yes, it is the same hat. that's what Spielberg are trying to tell the audience by the cut from River Phoenix to harrison.
so what if the hat doesnt look the same all the time. It's the idea of it being the same hat that counts.


CJ

eroc
04-05-2008, 05:19 PM
That would be one nasty hat to survive for 24 years. It would be awful and think about the smell! Indy has a personal hat maker! Ha!

indy is known for being " the man with the hat". notice it says "hat" and not "Hats" :p

he carried the same brown hat on all his adventures ( and sometimes regular.must be when he just had it cleaned and reblocked) and used his new gray hat as the regular so yes, it is the same hat. that's what Spielberg are trying to tell the audience by the cut from River Phoenix to harrison.
so what if the hat doesnt look the same all the time. It's the idea of it being the same hat that counts.


CJ

No. What Speilberg is trying to tell the audience is that this is how Indy developed his love for the fedora, after he has just shown the audience how Indy developed his love for antiquities belonging in a museum, IMHO.

Gear
04-07-2008, 01:28 AM
Like I said earlier, movies always have flaws, like some of these you'll find in the Indy trilogy...

- how come Indy doesn't have more than one scar on his face, even after being punched like a boxer's bag?

- The gun in ToD that Willie throws out the car window changes to a different model as soon as you see it outside of the car.

- The type of satchel Indy carries didn't exsist then, not until the '40s.

bonoferox
04-09-2008, 04:26 PM
That also raises the question of how many whips of different sizes does he carry with him? When he swings into the temple of the Kali Ma, it appears to be at least 12 ft. Other times it seems to be just about 8 feet long. And kangaroo hide whips aren't cheap...

Forbidden Eye
04-09-2008, 06:22 PM
Um, I think a better question would be how Indy escaped from the Nazi island.

I always just assumed he just somehow found a way back to Katanga's ship and thus was reunited with his precious hat.

Either that, or it flew to him with the wind just like near the end of LC.

Stoo
04-09-2008, 06:36 PM
I always just assumed he just somehow found a way back to Katanga's ship and thus was reunited with his precious hat.Supposedly, Indy & Marion made their way to the far side of the island (via mine car?) and, somehow, were
eventually picked up by a passing ship. (Would be perfect if it was the Bantu Wind but don't think so...)

|ZiR|
04-09-2008, 07:10 PM
Supposedly, Indy & Marion made their way to the far side of the island (via mine car?) and, somehow, were
eventually picked up by a passing ship. (Would be perfect if it was the Bantu Wind but don't think so...)

Where does that come from? 'Cause in the Raiders novel it doesn't mention how they get off the island, which was disappointing for me. (And strange, seeing how Black wrote about Indy's flight to Nepal, the airport there, and his drive to the Raven.)

It's like the movie where presumably everyone on the isle is presumably burned away, the exception being our heroes, and then, poof, suddenly we're in Washington. The minecar bit sounds like ToD...

ResidentAlien
04-09-2008, 07:16 PM
Where does that come from? 'Cause in the Raiders novel it doesn't mention how they get off the island, which was disappointing for me. (And strange, seeing how Black wrote about Indy's flight to Nepal, the airport there, and his drive to the Raven.)

It's like the movie where presumably everyone on the isle is presumably burned away, the exception being our heroes, and then, poof, suddenly we're in Washington. The minecar bit sounds like ToD...


Screenplay. It's online and worth a read.



And it is A LOT like TOD. There's also a scene where Indy steals half of the staff of Ra from a Chinese museum and escapes with it behind a giant gong under a hail of bullets. Both scenes were obviously reused for Temple.

Stoo
04-09-2008, 07:43 PM
Where does that come from? 'Cause in the Raiders novel it doesn't mention how they get off the island, which was disappointing for me. (And strange, seeing how Black wrote about Indy's flight to Nepal, the airport there, and his drive to the Raven.)

It's like the movie where presumably everyone on the isle is presumably burned away, the exception being our heroes, and then, poof, suddenly we're in Washington. The minecar bit sounds like ToD...Here ya go!:) From the "Third Draft, August 1979" by Lawrence Kasdan:
(The mine car chase in "Doom" was written for "Raiders".)

"Indy pulls his dripping body onto the sub's main deck. He has lost his felt hat once and for all."

...and then, a little bit later...

"Finally, we settle on a full shot of the island. We can recognize that the small opening high on the slope
from which a cloud of smoke and dust is billowing is the end of the mine tunnel. And there below it,
quite small from this distance is the dock. And the boat that looks like a Greek fishing boat.
There can be no mistake even from this far away--the boat is chugging out to sea."

Jack Nelligan
11-06-2009, 12:08 PM
Here ya go!:) From the "Third Draft, August 1979" by Lawrence Kasdan:
(The mine car chase in "Doom" was written for "Raiders".)

"Indy pulls his dripping body onto the sub's main deck. He has lost his felt hat once and for all."

...and then, a little bit later...

"Finally, we settle on a full shot of the island. We can recognize that the small opening high on the slope
from which a cloud of smoke and dust is billowing is the end of the mine tunnel. And there below it,
quite small from this distance is the dock. And the boat that looks like a Greek fishing boat.
There can be no mistake even from this far away--the boat is chugging out to sea."


Well this explains why the hat Indy wears in TOD (Stetson) is so different from the HJ he wore in Raiders. With what he does to hats, I doubt any of them last too long. A 1910-30's felt fedora was not made to take that kind of abuse. They were mainly dress hats made of hare or wool, that’s why Steve Delk made the new hats out of Beaver so they would last and stand up to a real adventure.

NickTurner
11-06-2009, 03:32 PM
Aaaahh! There's nothing like long-lasting beaver:up:

martinland
11-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Aaaahh! There's nothing like long-lasting beaver:up:Yep, niccccce... :whip:

oliverjones18
11-06-2009, 05:28 PM
in the newest Indiana jones novel it says that Indy has had his had since he was 13. It goes into depth about how many times its been repaired