The thing you and ONLY you think you noticed

[Yure]

I wonder if anybody ever noticed something in the Indy movies that believe nobody else ever noticed. A bit, a detail, something!

That detail that usually you love yourself for noticing and that googling it and discovering that it's been already eploited makes you almost sad :)

I have to say, that worked for the fly disappearing in Belloq's mouth while talking with bazooka Indy in Raiders.

[Attila the Professor]

I tend to think that I'm one of the few people equipped to tell what parts of the dialogue from Last Crusade was written/doctored by Tom Stoppard. One section that I'm 95% certain about is the whole Ming vase dialogue:

Henry Jones: [About the broken vase he used to hit Indiana Jones with] It breaks the heart.
Indiana Jones: And the head. You hit me with it, Dad.
Henry Jones: I'll never forgive myself.
Indiana Jones: [Surprised and touched] Oh- it's okay, I'm fine.
Henry Jones: Thank God! [He shows Indiana the vase, much to his son's disillusionment] It's fake! You can tell by the cross-sections!

Classic Stoppard conversation with cross-purposes and a preoccupied academic.

[mr.wolf]

well when i first saw Raiders in theaters about 3 years ago, I noticed that in the scene where Belloq has taken over the ship the Ark was on and had captured Marion and she was wearing that white silk dress, she wasn't exactly wearing panties and lets just say Karen Allen didn't exactly shave back then.

[stunrun]

I wonder if anybody ever noticed something in the Indy movies that believe nobody else ever noticed. A bit, a detail, something!

That detail that usually you love yourself for noticing and that googling it and discovering that it's been already eploited makes you almost sad :)

I have to say, that worked for the fly disappearing in Belloq's mouth while talking with bazooka Indy in Raiders.

yeah that always made me giggle:p i knew it was there but i didnt think much of it - either that or i forgot to mention it to anyone. You just know he spat on the ground after they cut!:D

well when i first saw Raiders in theaters about 3 years ago, I noticed that in the scene where Belloq has taken over the ship the Ark was on and had captured Marion and she was wearing that white silk dress, she wasn't exactly wearing panties and lets just say Karen Allen didn't exactly shave back then.

I'm ashamed to of noticed that too :o LOL

[The Golden Idol]

well when i first saw Raiders in theaters about 3 years ago, I noticed that in the scene where Belloq has taken over the ship the Ark was on and had captured Marion and she was wearing that white silk dress, she wasn't exactly wearing panties and lets just say Karen Allen didn't exactly shave back then.

Really? Where exactly in the film is this? :p

[mr.wolf]

when Marion is brought on deck while Belloq and the Captain of the ship are talking.

[Mickiana]

Yes, that scene on the ship and Marion's silk dress - I think alot of us are a bit, well, too polite to mention it! But thank god someone did.

[Indy"Ale" Jones]

In Raiders, in the bar, right after Belloq tells Indy to sit down before he falls down, Indy gives some kind of spastic type motion to him that I have always thought really funny, and never really noticed it until my wife pointed it out.

[sarah navarro]

In Raiders, in the bar, right after Belloq tells Indy to sit down before he falls down, Indy gives some kind of spastic type motion to him that I have always thought really funny, and never really noticed it until my wife pointed it out.
I know that one exactly! I noticed that too, a couple months ago i sat there and kept rewinding it and rewinding it,it looks like hes about to vomit:sick:

[Dayne]

In Temple of Doom during the bug sequence, Indy is just about to gesture Shortround in the direction to the "compressing-spike-room" when the match he's holding burns his thumb and he blatently says "OW! There! Go over there!" It seems to me that this wasn't intentional and I always found it funny to watch.

[EvilDevo]

"I see it, Shorty. THAT'S IT. Pankot Palace!"

The "that's it" line always sounded dubbed to me. There's also a shot of possessed Indy that I'm pretty sure is reversed. The fire in the background appears to be burning in the wrong direction.

[Indyologist]

In Raiders, in the bar, right after Belloq tells Indy to sit down before he falls down, Indy gives some kind of spastic type motion to him that I have always thought really funny, and never really noticed it until my wife pointed it out.

Yes, YES! That's something I only noticed a few years ago! Indy mocks what Belloq says just before ("we can behave like civilized people-- sit down before you fall down" or something like that) with a gesture and a look that says, "excuse ME, jerk!"

Glad someone else saw that! That's what's so great about the Trilogy (soon to be called "Quadrilogy"-- maybe "the Quad" for short?). They are so detailed and well-made that every once in a while I see something I've never seen before and I'm amazed all over again.

[Tsar]

Yes, YES! That's something I only noticed a few years ago! Indy mocks what Belloq says just before ("we can behave like civilized people-- sit down before you fall down" or something like that) with a gesture and a look that says, "excuse ME, jerk!"


Maybe the Monkey's claws pinched into Indy's neck, causing him to flinch like that? Just a thought.

[James]

In Raiders, in the bar, right after Belloq tells Indy to sit down before he falls down, Indy gives some kind of spastic type motion to him that I have always thought really funny, and never really noticed it until my wife pointed it out.

This is the one I thought of when I saw the topic. I've always wondered if there's alternate footage out there showing exactly what kind of expression Harrison made at Belloq.

There's a similar moment that always jumped out at me as a kid. It's when Marcus first arrives at Indy's house and tells him "they want you to go for it". Indy then says "Oh...Marcus!" and leans back with this really exaggerated laugh. The video on my old VHS copy always made this action seem even more forced than it is.

[Stoo]

This is probably hands-down the BEST one:

"Who the HECK is this guy?"
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=10247&highlight=heck

Anyway, this mystery man is not alone because I noticed another one. There's two!

Has anyone ever realised that when Indy gallops through the crowd of diggers to catch the desert convoy,
the shot is reversed, mirror-fashion? Indy's bag is on the wrong side and the proper shot is in the trailer.:eek:

[Laserschwert]

I've always liked the part where Indy and Marion escape from the Well of Souls, and Indy pushes the rock out of the wall... and it bounces back into frame a bit... gotta love those fake rocks :p

[DocWhiskey]

When my friend and I watch "Raiders" we always laugh at the way Indy asks Marion for "Whiskey" when he is in the scuttle in the raven. And when Marion and Indy are in Cairo we always think it's funny how Indy says, "It's a date, ya eat 'em". Just watch and you'll understand.

[Stoo]

Ummm...That's very interesting, Doc Whiskey. I never knew that you and friend found those parts funny.
Did you happen to read the title of this thread?:rolleyes:

[DocWhiskey]

well it was me AND me only who noted it. But I told it to my friends and now they get in on it too, just as EVERYONE is doing in this thread by sharing their views. Lighten up, sweetheart.

[Stoo]

well it was me AND me only who noted it.Apologies if I'm being rude but...noted what exactly? The fact that Indy spoke those lines?:confused:
If there's some hidden/inside joke or something then, please, enlighten us.:cool:

[Lonsome_Drifter]

I always wondered why when Indy's old friend (the waiter in ToD, what's his name?) gets shot, why there is no bullet hole in his shirt where the blood blossoms up.

[DocWhiskey]

Apologies if I'm being rude but...noted what exactly? The fact that Indy spoke those lines?:confused:
If there's some hidden/inside joke or something then, please, enlighten us.:cool:

No need to apologize, friend:D

But, I don't know, he says it in such a feminine tone. I mean, I would mention it and when that scene arose people would listen for it and chuckle. So, it's immature maybe, but maybe it's just me:confused:

[WillKill4Food]

When my friend and I watch "Raiders" we always laugh at the way Indy asks Marion for "Whiskey" when he is in the scuttle in the raven. And when Marion and Indy are in Cairo we always think it's funny how Indy says, "It's a date, ya eat 'em". Just watch and you'll understand.
Well, when I first saw it, of course I was really little, I thought that his line "Don't worry, have a date" was "Don't worry, he has a date" and I thought that Indy was trying to make a lame joke.

[Lonsome_Drifter]

No need to apologize, friend:D

But, I don't know, he says it in such a feminine tone. I mean, I would mention it and when that scene arose people would listen for it and chuckle. So, it's immature maybe, but maybe it's just me:confused:

Don't worry. I still laugh when he says "It's a date! Ya, eat'em!"
he sounds like a 14 year-old boy during that line.

[DocWhiskey]

^Yeah, it's like his voice cracks or something.:D

[Lonsome_Drifter]

^Yeah, it's like his voice cracks or something.:D

I also love how Belloq says "You know it's true" when he telling Indy how they are alike.
Something about the way he says it makes me laugh.

[oki9Sedo]

Remember when Indy attempts to jump across the ravine in the Idol Temple in Raiders? When he manages to grab onto a.....thing, whatever it is.....he smiles and you see all this black stuff on his teeth.

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Remember when Indy attempts to jump across the ravine in the Idol Temple in Raiders? When he manages to grab onto a.....thing, whatever it is.....he smiles and you see all this black stuff on his teeth.

I always thought that that was dust.

[oki9Sedo]

I always thought that that was dust.

No, it looks like tar or something. I always thought it was funny anyway.

[Lonsome_Drifter]

It was black under his nose also. lol

[oki9Sedo]

It was black under his nose also. lol

I have no idea what it is, but its something I always noticed.

[herr gruber]

Truck chase, Raiders. Nazi goon punching Indy in his gunshot wound. Blood on the Nazis fist. Blood not on the Nazis fist.

[Grave Robber]

I always wondered why when Indy's old friend (the waiter in ToD, what's his name?) gets shot, why there is no bullet hole in his shirt where the blood blossoms up.

Yeah I wondered this too. I always thought there was a hole but that you just couldn't see it through the blackness of the tux jacket. Also that it wasn't that big of a bullet since he didn't bleed that much.


Another thing I always notice is in Raiders, when Indy swims onto the sub and jumps up to find the hatch, there's a Nazi flag just sticking out randomly waving in the wind. I always wondered why they'd put a flag outside a sub, unless they had replacements.

[Laserschwert]

Talking about the submarine, when Indy gets on top of it, he does this strange spin... show-off! :whip:

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Talking about the submarine, when Indy gets on top of it, he does this strange spin... show-off! :whip:

When he spinned, it looked to me like he was thinking <i>"WTF do I do now?"</i>

[Kooshmeister]

Let's see, for Raiders, stuff I've noticed in repeated viewings that my family and friends didn't catch:

1. The whole thing with the other officer in the troop car. Up until I brought him up as my first post on this board (or one of my first, anyway) I'd never seen anybody mention noticing a third officer at Tanis (I'm still trying to figure out where he came from, since he doesn't appear until just before the chase begins, already in the car).

2. When the weird noises and light first start coming out of the Ark, the two soldiers who discretely move from the front of the crowd to the back, are the same two who opened it for Belloq. In pan-and-scan versions it looks like they actually have the brains to sneak off, but instead they stupidly linger at the back of the crowd.

3. Gobler the ventriloquist. It's the worst audio-visual blooper in the movie in my opinion, and one that's been hidden from many viewers' eyes for years due to poor Gobler being consistently offscreen in pan-and-scan versions of the movie. I don't claim to be the first to have noticed it, but I was the one who submitted it to Nitpickers.com (along with the one about Gobler's goggles going up and down in different shots in the truck chase).

4. The so-called Tall Captain who tells Belloq he's arranged the altar for him, despite being seen walking with the procession through the canyon, is not present at the actual opening of the Ark (that I can see, anyway).

5. Not including accidental players like the guy who lands on the truck hood early on, the total number of participants in the truck chase (including Indy) is 19:

1 Indiana Jones on horsie
1 Belloq in black Mercedes
1 Toht in black Mercedes
1 Dietrich in black Mercedes
1 Gobler in troop car
1 German officer in troop car
13 German soldiers altogether; 1 to drive black Mercedes, 2 in truck cab, 7 in back (including the Sarge), 1 manning machine gun in troop car, and 2 on motorcycle with sidecar

(I have way too much free time.)

6. And just to make this an even number of stuff, I guess I just pay more attention to Gobler than most (he really has grown on me despite being possibly the least effective bad guy in the movie; only the Cairo Swordsman is more useless), but when the car goes flying off the cliff, despite there being three people in it, only two fall out as it plummets; Gobler is the one who remains seated. Apparently, he remembered his seatbelt.

[Grave Robber]

It was brought to my attention that in ToD, before Indy boards the plane in the beginning the guy they talk to is actually played by Dan Akroyd (don't remember the character's name). Never knew that he made such a cameo.

[Kooshmeister]

That would be Earl Weber, I believe.

[Lonsome_Drifter]

I always thought that it was Art Webber.

[NileQT87]

the official site, way back before it got updated, said "art weber" is aykroyd's character's name.

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Why was Lao Che shipping live poultry anyway?

[Grave Robber]

Another "why" question: why were those to be lowered into the lava pit first equipped with a lay as if they just got to Hawaii? lol

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Another "why" question: why were those to be lowered into the lava pit first equipped with a lay as if they just got to Hawaii? lol

Good question! I don't have an answer, sadly.

Okay, one more "why".
Why did the other kids who were slaves in the mines underneath Pankot Palace, not think of the idea of breaking their chains with a mattock way before Mr. Round?

[Kooshmeister]

Why was Lao Che shipping live poultry anyway?

In the world of organized crime, that'd be what is called a legitimate business, good both as a front and as a way of earning extra money.

Another "why" question: why were those to be lowered into the lava pit first equipped with a lay as if they just got to Hawaii? lol

Well, you know. Volcanoes and Hawaii go hand in hand. Mola Ram was just trying to be nice. It was the least he could do considering he was about to lower them into molten lava.

Seriously, though, it appears to just be part of the ceremony. Those lowered into the pit are sacrifices to Mother Kali and are therefore "dolled up," if you will.

Why did the other kids who were slaves in the mines underneath Pankot Palace, not think of the idea of breaking their chains with a mattock way before Mr. Round?

How do you think that one boy who showed up at the village escaped? ;)

Likely, the children made many, many escape attempts, but the ruthless and brutal Thuggee always caught them again.

And, heck, even if some others did get away, it's likely they died of exposure or got lost trying to reach the village. That one little boy was practically near death.

[James]

How do you think that one boy who showed up at the village escaped?

Also, Short Round knew he had a ticket 'out', provided he could just reach Indy. Not to mention, he had far more experience surviving on his own- having been orphaned at such a young age.

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Good points.
Now when I watch ToD again, I can keep my brain from nagging about those parts. :up:

[Stoo]

It was brought to my attention that in ToD, before Indy boards the plane in the beginning the guy they talk to is actually played by Dan Akroyd (don't remember the character's name). Never knew that he made such a cameo.His name is listed in the cast during the end credits so it's not really a cameo.;)
The real cameo in airport scene comes in the form of two guys in the background.
Can you guess who they might be?

the official site, way back before it got updated, said "art weber" is aykroyd's character's name.The subtitles also read "Art Weber".

[Michael24]

Yes, YES! That's something I only noticed a few years ago! Indy mocks what Belloq says just before ("we can behave like civilized people-- sit down before you fall down" or something like that) with a gesture and a look that says, "excuse ME, jerk!"

I never noticed this either until I watched for it on USA the other day. It's such a funny move. To me, it's almost like a sarcastic "Oh, okay, whatever you say" kind of look. Haha!!

[God'sRadio]

well when i first saw Raiders in theaters about 3 years ago, I noticed that in the scene where Belloq has taken over the ship the Ark was on and had captured Marion and she was wearing that white silk dress, she wasn't exactly wearing panties and lets just say Karen Allen didn't exactly shave back then.

Known as a Brillo Pad in slang terms

[God'sRadio]

http://theindyexperience.com/photo_gallery/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark/42.jpg

Indy's panzerfaust is a bit of pipe with three jubilee clips attached

[UKIndyFan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbZfVYqdkbM
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbZfVYqdkbM)
At about the 3:20 mark, when Indy is telling Mola Ram to meet Kali in hell, is it just me or is he distracted by something off camera? Its not that clear in this video but he glances to his right for just a second between dialougue

Also when Indy is running from the natives to Jock, I find that scene impossible. At the point where he first shouts to Jock he is too far away from the plane, for anybody to hear him. He carries on running a pretty long distance while Jock is finishing up his fishing. You have to see it again to understand :S

[Michael24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbZfVYqdkbM
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbZfVYqdkbM)
At about the 3:20 mark, when Indy is telling Mola Ram to meet Kali in hell, is it just me or is he distracted by something off camera? Its not that clear in this video but he glances to his right for just a second between dialougue

I'll have to check that out on DVD later. It's hard to see because of the quality of that clip.

But I've always liked that shot of Mola Ram after Willie stops running and screams. It looks like he's thinking to himself, "Jeez, would you just shut up already?" LOL!!!

[Lonsome_Drifter]

I noticed this when I was a kid.
Look at the video UnIndyFan posted at the 00:16 mark. See how wide that river lookes?

Now slide the marker over to the 1:48 mark. See how narrow the river has become? Nothing more than a large stream!

[HawkEagleWolf]

I always thought that I noticed the OB-CP0 on the the Bi-Plane in Raiders, turns out not so much...:P

-HawkEagleWolf

[rhino]

The one thing that I noticed and it has stuck with me since I saw TOD way back when is the kid in the cage with Short Round and Indy before they are to be whipped.
He speaks in a very accented voice telling them that he is praying and then when they talk to him he speaks in perfect un-accented english. "You become like them." I always laugh because the faces that Short Round and Indy give when he is talking always make me think that they are more suprised by his accent or lack of, during that part, than the story he is telling.

[God'sRadio]

In LC when Indy is pursued in the boat chase, the warrior guy's sub-machine gun breaks open and the actor just looks at it, double take, for a second.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iyn6HnDmxM) at 52 secs

And the stunt guy actually doesn't jump successfully into the boat from the dock in the first place, they cut as he falls off the back

[Attila the Professor]

In LC when Indy is pursued in the boat chase, the warrior guy's sub-machine gun breaks open and the actor just looks at it, double take, for a second.

I'm pretty sure the idea is that it has run out of bullets.

[oki9Sedo]

I'm pretty sure the idea is that it has run out of bullets.

I'd have to second that.

[bonoferox]

The one thing that I noticed and it has stuck with me since I saw TOD way back when is the kid in the cage with Short Round and Indy before they are to be whipped.
He speaks in a very accented voice telling them that he is praying and then when they talk to him he speaks in perfect un-accented english. "You become like them." I always laugh because the faces that Short Round and Indy give when he is talking always make me think that they are more suprised by his accent or lack of, during that part, than the story he is telling.

I always thought it was two separate slaves there.

[Billy Ray]

In TOD, when Indy first sneaks down to the altar and grabs the Sankara Stones he tips his hat to a statue of a cobra...as he turns away, it appears as if the statue moves.

I thought I had made this new discovery after seeing it for my umpteenth time, but apparently I wasn't the first person to notice it:

http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=7715

[Stoo]

In the "Doom" title on the DVD, you can see the word "of" through Willie's dress.
Never noticed this in the theatre or the VHS.

[InVader]

I'm pretty sure when I watch raiders that I'm the only one of my friends to note that during the marketplace chase, one of the guys gets stabbed by one of his buddies and the next shot shows a Bad guy Shish Kabob with some apples nicely run through with the same sword :D . Oh, and I love to point out Indy and his diggers walking right behind Belloq when they're at the dig site at Tanis.

[The Golden Idol]

I noticed that Jock's two lines have two different accents. When he says "That's just my pet snake Reggie", he sounds English, but when he says "Come on, show a little backbone", he sounds American.

[The_Raiders]

I noticed that Jock's two lines have two different accents. When he says "That's just my pet snake Reggie", he sounds English, but when he says "Come on, show a little backbone", he sounds American.


He sounds like a red neck to me when he says "Thats just my pet snake Reggie." I must agree with him sounding english for the other line thoufg.

[God'sRadio]

I'm pretty sure the idea is that it has run out of bullets.


I'd have to second that.

No sub-machine on earth breaks open like that when the magazine is emptied.

[nitzsche]

Anyone mention that Mola Ram takes off his headdress twice before slipping into the escape door under the Kali statue?

[Kooshmeister]

Ronald Lacey's male-pattern baldness as Toht was apparently faked. When they're trekking across the island at the end, and he takes his hat off, you can see where Lacey shaved his head.

He has very dark hair so it's pretty obvious, but only in that scene. It's not obvious (or even noticeable) in the Raven shootout, probably because it's dimly lit whereas the island trek is in broad daylight.

Lacey himself was not balding, I don't think, since he had a full head of hair as Ikol in Red Sonja. I guess they just wanted Toht to be going bald for some reason.

[|ZiR|]

Ronald Lacey's male-pattern baldness as Toht was apparently faked. When they're trekking across the island at the end, and he takes his hat off, you can see where Lacey shaved his head.

He has very dark hair so it's pretty obvious, but only in that scene. It's not obvious (or even noticeable) in the Raven shootout, probably because it's dimly lit whereas the island trek is in broad daylight.

Lacey himself was not balding, I don't think, since he had a full head of hair as Ikol in Red Sonja. I guess they just wanted Toht to be going bald for some reason.

I thought it looked weird when they showed Raiders on USA the other day! How strange that they made him shave it; I wonder if they originally planned more scenes without the hat. :confused:

[ValenciaGrail]

Jock's two lines of dialogue in ROTL have always been a bit of a burr under my saddle...they were clearly dubbed by two different people:

Austrailian Jock:
"That's just moy pet snike, Reggie (Crikey!)"

Brooklyn Jock:
"C'mon, show a little backbone, will ya? (Ya got a problem with that?)"

Given the Yankees hat (and the name "Reggie" for the snake), I guess the real Jock is the latter...

[Salacious]

I always thought I was the only one in the world who noticed Belloq eating a fly. Thanks alot Internet!! :mad:

[Attila the Professor]

No sub-machine on earth breaks open like that when the magazine is emptied.

It doesn't look at all as though it breaks open. It looks like it ran out of bullets, and he knows it, so he lowers the gun and sits down.

I also think that the character is supposed to fall off the back of the boat, and not properly make the jump.

[Dust McAlan]

For the longest time, I thought that Last Crusade had the biggest film goof ever: when Indy is looking down at the X in the library, you can clearly see it, but when he breaks through the tiles, it ain't there anymore. I only recently noticed that the X is indeed there, but very close to matching the color of the surrounding tiles, so up close it's almost invisible.

[ReggieSnake]

Jock's two lines of dialogue in ROTL have always been a bit of a burr under my saddle...they were clearly dubbed by two different people:

Austrailian Jock:
"That's just moy pet snike, Reggie (Crikey!)"

Brooklyn Jock:
"C'mon, show a little backbone, will ya? (Ya got a problem with that?)"

Given the Yankees hat (and the name "Reggie" for the snake), I guess the real Jock is the latter...Not necessarily two different people; remember Fred Sorenson is a pilot, not an actor. I think if anything it was a bad replication of accents by Sorenson. Also, accents kind of blend when yelling over an airplane engine; Words like my and snake could easily sound Australian if yelled, even when someone is not attempting a Brooklyn accent.

People seem to mention this a lot. It has never bothered me. I think he sounds distinctly American for both lines.

[MR Round]

I always thought I was the only one in the world who noticed Belloq eating a fly. Thanks alot Internet!! :mad:

I also thought this:down:

[Ignatius Stone]

In Last Crusade, I always thought the line where the German butler says "If you're a Scottish lord, then I am Mickey Mouse" really sounded dubbed, just the "Mickey Mouse" part. Listen to it again, and you'll notice it.

Years later, I found out that it was dubbed!

There were two alternate takes for that line, one where he says "then I am Jesse Owens" and one where he says "then I am Mae West".

They decided to go with Mickey Mouse because Lucas and Spielberg figured the kids in the audience wouldn't know who Jesse Owens or Mae West were.

[AnImaginaryBoy]

I always love the little bit of finger acting Harrison does at the opening of Raiders of the Lost Ark after he tells Satipo to stay there when they trigger off the floor trap. It's very tiny, but he just rubs his fingers together, and for somoe reason, I just find that terribly amusing!

[Michael24]

For the longest time, I thought that Last Crusade had the biggest film goof ever: when Indy is looking down at the X in the library, you can clearly see it, but when he breaks through the tiles, it ain't there anymore. I only recently noticed that the X is indeed there, but very close to matching the color of the surrounding tiles, so up close it's almost invisible.

My mom had this exact same issue for years, and I thought I'd never convince her otherwise, no matter how hard I tried, that the X was still there in the close-up. Eventually, though, she got it. :)

In Last Crusade, I always thought the line where the German butler says "If you're a Scottish lord, then I am Mickey Mouse" really sounded dubbed, just the "Mickey Mouse" part. Listen to it again, and you'll notice it.

I don't remember thinking it looked dubbed (though I remember the "Jesse Owens" bit being in the novelization), but I always noticed that Harrison Ford seems to be subtlely mouthing the butler's own lines as he says "...and we have many tapestries."

And at one point, in the background, someone can be seen walking by through a gap in the door frame. You could say perhaps it's just a guard or something, but it was probably really a crew member.

[Marty Jones]

Here's something I'm convinced that most (if not all) of you missed from Raiders of the Lost Ark. Right after the scene where the Monkey Man and his pet monkey salute the Germans, there's a shot with Indiana and Marion walking out into the street. On the right side of the screen in front of the big dirt pile, there's a shovel standing up. Just as the scene starts, the shovel falls down on its own. I'll bet not many of you ever caught that before.

That one always makes my chuckle. :D

[oki9Sedo]

When Indy says "Then we'll die!" to Kazim on the motorboat, it was clearly dubbed. He's mouthing something else.

[herr gruber]

I'm sure it's Vic Armstrong in the spike chamber scene in TOD where Willie runs in screaming " Get them off me! Get them off me! They're all over me!". Indy, kneeling in the doorway, glances up at her and looks down again. It doesn't quite look like Harrison.

[|ZiR|]

I'm sure it's Vic Armstrong in the spike chamber scene in TOD where Willie runs in screaming " Get them off me! Get them off me! They're all over me!". Indy, kneeling in the doorway, glances up at her and looks down again. It doesn't quite look like Harrison.

!!!

My goodness, I think you're right about that. I've watched ToD more than any of the others and I never noticed it before. :eek:

[Lonsome_Drifter]

I'm sure it's Vic Armstrong in the spike chamber scene in TOD where Willie runs in screaming " Get them off me! Get them off me! They're all over me!". Indy, kneeling in the doorway, glances up at her and looks down again. It doesn't quite look like Harrison.


Now, YET another reason to pull down this DVD and watch again for the 5,000th time!

[Michael24]

I'm sure it's Vic Armstrong in the spike chamber scene in TOD where Willie runs in screaming " Get them off me! Get them off me! They're all over me!". Indy, kneeling in the doorway, glances up at her and looks down again. It doesn't quite look like Harrison.

I always wondered why they did that shot the way they did. I mean, it's not like Vic has his back to the camera or something. It's plainly obvious because he's pretty much facing the audience, and it's you can see it (however briefly) and go, "That's not Harrison Ford. WTF?" :confused:

[ValenciaGrail]

In ROTLA, at the end of the truck chase, the look on Indy's face as he is running Belloq's car off the road.

It's the coolest "f--- you" sneer that says: "How do you like THEM apples?"

It's right as the bridge to the Raiders theme kicks in....it always makes me pump my fist and say "Yes!", even on the 642nd watching it :whip:

[UKIndyFan]

Everybody else noticed the bouncing sandblock, right? When Marion and Indy are escaping the Well of Souls? I'm pretty sure that ones well known

[ValenciaGrail]

Everybody else noticed the bouncing sandblock, right? When Marion and Indy are escaping the Well of Souls? I'm pretty sure that ones well known

Everyone mentions that, and I have seen it, but it appears to be more of a rolling sandblock to me. It has never bothered me much, or sticks out as a "goof" to me.

[Gear]

I tend to think that I'm one of the few people equipped to tell what parts of the dialogue from Last Crusade was written/doctored by Tom Stoppard. One section that I'm 95% certain about is the whole Ming vase dialogue:



Classic Stoppard conversation with cross-purposes and a preoccupied academic.

Yes, thats a fabulous scene. Art on script.

[What Truck?]

Right after Dr. Jones steals the white horse to pursue the truck carrying the ark, the horse steps on the leg of an extra.

The extra immediately falls over in pain while one of the extras who was running after the horse stops to see if he's okay.

Always makes me cringe a little. That had to hurt!

[Michael24]

In ROTLA, at the end of the truck chase, the look on Indy's face as he is running Belloq's car off the road.

It's the coolest "f--- you" sneer that says: "How do you like THEM apples?"


I love that! Indy's got that look on his face and you see him just crank that steering wheel to the left and force Belloq's car off over the shoulder and into the dunes. Great moment. :up:

Everyone mentions that, and I have seen it, but it appears to be more of a rolling sandblock to me. It has never bothered me much, or sticks out as a "goof" to me.

Yeah, I've always thought the same, that it looks more like it's just "rolling" away since it's on a slope.

Right after Dr. Jones steals the white horse to pursue the truck carrying the ark, the horse steps on the leg of an extra.

The extra immediately falls over in pain while one of the extras who was running after the horse stops to see if he's okay.

Always makes me cringe a little. That had to hurt!

I was always surprised that the stunt rider (Vic Armstrong?) didn't halt the take by stopping after that happened, since it was clearly an accident. It looks like the horse's leg tangles with the extra's, then pulls him under as the back legs go over him, and Indy just looks back like, "Oh, jeez, sorry." Haha!!

[Laserschwert]

I've just watched Raiders again, and I've noticed when he enters the temple in Peru, you can already see the spiders on his back in the second shot (his silhouette against the cave's entrance). I've never noticed that before.

[ValenciaGrail]

Two things I always noticed but just recently connected ...

In Raiders, Indy reaches under the rapidly closing stone door to grab his whip just before it shuts.

In TOD, Indy does the same thing, but this time he reaches for his hat under the stone door....so this is a rehash of the same gag.

I guess I never connected the two gags before because in the Raiders version, it never struck me as humorous. The whip is a legitimate survival tool, and it's more reasonable that he would have risked his arm to get it back. But the hat....well, it's just a hat ... so the TOD version is more slapstick to me :)

One can view the Fedora as a comic reflection of Indy. As the hat goes, so goes Indy:
- Indy survives or escapes all manner of situations in a completely implausible manner...no broken bones, torn tendons, etc...not even after the truck chase in Raiders. Heck, Ford even injured himself more than once just pretending to do some of these scenes, notably the TOD back injury which necessitated revamping the shoot schedules
- The hat, simliarly, should have been torn to shreds and unusuable years ago.

- The one situation when we are closest to believing Indy might have finally bought the farm, the hat blows off his head...our subconscious says: "wow, his hat's gone...does that mean he really went over the cliff"
- Then, after we discover he has leaped off the tank at the last second...again, implausibly...a serendipitous gust of wind blows the hat right back to him.

Hat survives another day :: Indy survives another day

[ATMachine]

Two things I always noticed but just recently connected ...

In Raiders, Indy reaches under the rapidly closing stone door to grab his whip just before it shuts.

In TOD, Indy does the same thing, but this time he reaches for his hat under the stone door....so this is a rehash of the same gag.

I guess I never connected the two gags before because in the Raiders version, it never struck me as humorous. The whip is a legitimate survival tool, and it's more reasonable that he would have risked his arm to get it back. But the hat....well, it's just a hat ... so the TOD version is more slapstick to me :)

One can view the Fedora as a comic reflection of Indy. As the hat goes, so goes Indy:
- Indy survives or escapes all manner of situations in a completely implausible manner...no broken bones, torn tendons, etc...not even after the truck chase in Raiders. Heck, Ford even injured himself more than once just pretending to do some of these scenes, notably the TOD back injury which necessitated revamping the shoot schedules
- The hat, simliarly, should have been torn to shreds and unusuable years ago.

- The one situation when we are closest to believing Indy might have finally bought the farm, the hat blows off his head...our subconscious says: "wow, his hat's gone...does that mean he really went over the cliff"
- Then, after we discover he has leaped off the tank at the last second...again, implausibly...a serendipitous gust of wind blows the hat right back to him.

Hat survives another day :: Indy survives another day
Well there you have why he risked his arm for it in TOD. It must be the place where he's hidden his life, so that as long as the hat exists he cannot die. No wonder it has a talent for staying on his head--his soul contained within the hat has a natural affinity for his body.

[martinland]

- The hat, simliarly, should have been torn to shreds and unusuable years ago.
[...]
Hat survives another day :: Indy survives another dayThat's one of the many many reasons why I love these movies so much...

Remember the BTS footage of the tank chase where Harrison has trouble in the real world just riding w/ the hat on?

There's even one fraction of a second (I'd say 4-6 frames) where the hat starts falling of in one shot when he's almost thrown into the truck and he yells "dad!". Only a quick cut could save him... ;) ;)

Bye,
Martin

PS:

I am so looking forward to sitting in the movie theater in three days! :whip:

Have to watch the Cannes red carpet stuff now... ;)

[God'sRadio]

Magically the hat is back despite being lost on the submarine. Or he bought another from the hat shop

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Magically the hat is back despite being lost on the submarine. Or he bought another from the hat shop

I always liked to think that Katanga mailed his hat to Sallah, and Sallah in turned mailed it to Indy.

[ValenciaGrail]

I always liked to think that Katanga mailed his hat to Sallah, and Sallah in turned mailed it to Indy.

In the Campbell Black novel version of ROTLA, he actually did lose the hat while swimming to the submarine.

This came up in the "top men" conversation with the Feds at the end, when Indy mused about everything he had lost during the whole expedition:
"My favorite hat, for openers"

[ValenciaGrail]

Well there you have why he risked his arm for it in TOD. It must be the place where he's hidden his life, so that as long as the hat exists he cannot die. No wonder it has a talent for staying on his head--his soul contained within the hat has a natural affinity for his body.

So now we know where JK Rowling got her inspiration for Horcruxes... :D

[Michael24]

There's even one fraction of a second (I'd say 4-6 frames) where the hat starts falling of in one shot when he's almost thrown into the truck and he yells "dad!". Only a quick cut could save him... ;) ;)


Yeah, I've always caught that. It's when he's straining to look into the hatch opening and yelling "Dad! Dad, the gun!" You can just barely see his hat get nudged off I believe just as the camera follows the falling gun down into the tank. Then in the next shot, his hat is squarely back on his head. :D

In the Campbell Black novel version of ROTLA, he actually did lose the hat while swimming to the submarine.

This came up in the "top men" conversation with the Feds at the end, when Indy mused about everything he had lost during the whole expedition:
"My favorite hat, for openers"

I laughed when I read that. Funny that Indy actually notes the lost of his hat to the Army guys, and even earlier it's mentioned that Indy is basically lamenting the lose of his hat and whip. Haha!!

[Laserschwert]

Magically the hat is back despite being lost on the submarine. Or he bought another from the hat shop

Well, given that his hat in the final scene is grey and not brown I would assume that it's his replacement hat ;)

[ATMachine]

Well, given that his hat in the final scene is grey and not brown I would assume that it's his replacement hat ;)
Technically speaking he shouldn't have that one either! He wore the grey hat (and the blue double-breasted suit) on the plane to Nepal. Unless he mailed it back home after arriving in Nepal I would think it should have gotten left behind wherever he left all his other luggage.

[Lambonius]

In the Raven Bar shootout in Raiders, if you look carefully you'll notice that Indy is using two different types of pistol. One is his trusty revolver, but the other is a different, clip-loaded pistol. Additionally, if you watch the quick cuts, in some of the close-ups he's clearly using the wrong gun at the wrong time (i.e. wide-shot of Indy holding the revolver, then quick close-up of Indy firing the other pistol, then back to wide shot of him holding the revolver.) I just noticed this for the first time while watching it the other night.

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Technically speaking he shouldn't have that one either! He wore the grey hat (and the blue double-breasted suit) on the plane to Nepal. Unless he mailed it back home after arriving in Nepal I would think it should have gotten left behind wherever he left all his other luggage.

I always thought that the grey hat was his dress hat, and his old brown fedora was his adventuring one.

[UltimateManGod]

Speaking of having lost items returned, how does Indy get his gun and whip back from Belloq when Belloq takes the idol from Indy? He clearly doesn't have them when running from the Hovitos, and Belloq doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would send Indy his personal effects back. Unless Indy has spares.

[Vance]

When the blood splatters from the German Mechanic (TM) onto the canopy, the blood never appears in any other shot, despite the close-up on Indy shooting the canopy at the exact same spot.

[Nurhachi1991]

In ToD when the thugee and Indy are pulling Shorty he appears to be stretching.

[Michael24]

Speaking of having lost items returned, how does Indy get his gun and whip back from Belloq when Belloq takes the idol from Indy? He clearly doesn't have them when running from the Hovitos, and Belloq doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would send Indy his personal effects back. Unless Indy has spares.

I remember asking my dad something like "How come Indy has a gun? I thought Belloq took it?" and my dad said, "He probably got another one at Big 5 after he got back." Haha!! There used to be one just a few blocks away from our house.

When the blood splatters from the German Mechanic (TM) onto the canopy, the blood never appears in any other shot, despite the close-up on Indy shooting the canopy at the exact same spot.

Actually, the blood splatters onto the canopy of the gun turret at the rear of the plane, not the cockpit canopy. The cockpit and the gun turret are connected via a crawlspace that runs the length of the plane. :)

[JD2008]

How did the altar of the golden idol work?

[Michael24]

That confused me as well when I was little as well, and leaving it empty probably would have still triggered the trap. I think the way the trap works is that it's set to go off if there's a change in weight, whether it's more or less than that of the idol. (If the bag of sand had weighed less, the pedestal probably would have risen instead of lowering the way it does in the movie.)

[Vance]

Actually, the blood splatters onto the canopy of the gun turret at the rear of the plane, not the cockpit canopy. The cockpit and the gun turret are connected via a crawlspace that runs the length of the plane. :)

Just watched it. The blood seems to splatter on the left-side of the main canopy, which Marion (who is again up front at this point) reacts to as it spatters all over in front of her. It's minor, but it's a continuity error.

Also, as to 'Short Round's' stretching, it's actually another continuity error. He doesnt' stretch.. it's just that at one point the Thugee's have him by the wrists, then it cuts and they have pulled his sleeves out and are holding him by that, then it cuts again and they have his wrists again. It does look a little silly, though.

[Dust McAlan]

Indy's revolver inexplicably turns into a .45 automatic during the bar fight in Raiders, and remains a .45 for the rest of the film.

[Michael24]

Just watched it. The blood seems to splatter on the left-side of the main canopy, which Marion (who is again up front at this point) reacts to as it spatters all over in front of her. It's minor, but it's a continuity error.

If you pause the shot of Marion covering her eyes, you can see the gun and it's crosshair sight in the same shot with her, so she's still in the turret at the back of the plane. The turret canopy is also more rounded, like a bubble, whereas the cockpit canpoy is a little more elongated. :)

[UltimateManGod]

Indy's revolver inexplicably turns into a .45 automatic during the bar fight in Raiders, and remains a .45 for the rest of the film.

I always figured he had two guns with him. That revolver is only good for six shots, and it's easier to reload that .45. Also, he used the revolver for the rest of the film. It's onlt the bar scene where he uses a .45.

http://www.theraider.net/showimage.php?ImageUrl=http://www.theraider.net/films/raiders/gallery/dvdscreenshots/188.jpg
Clearly the revolver. I'd add a screenshot of the gun during the mechanic fight when it's on the ground, but I'm too lazy to look anywhere else.

[Dust McAlan]

I always figured he had two guns with him. That revolver is only good for six shots, and it's easier to reload that .45. Also, he used the revolver for the rest of the film. It's onlt the bar scene where he uses a .45.

http://www.theraider.net/showimage.php?ImageUrl=http://www.theraider.net/films/raiders/gallery/dvdscreenshots/188.jpg
Clearly the revolver. I'd add a screenshot of the gun during the mechanic fight when it's on the ground, but I'm too lazy to look anywhere else.
Ooh, very good, very well made point. Thanks for pointing out that image.

I just noticed that he DOES shoot the swordsman with the revolver, but I think my confusion came in the fact that he has the .45 on the Bantu Wind.

[Vance]

If you pause the shot of Marion covering her eyes, you can see the gun and it's crosshair sight in the same shot with her, so she's still in the turret at the back of the plane. The turret canopy is also more rounded, like a bubble, whereas the cockpit canpoy is a little more elongated. :)

Then it's still a continuity error, as she had already gone back to the cockpit by this point, expecting Indy to free her. :)

[NoCamels]

In Raiders, right as Indy is riding along the ridge and just before he rides downhill to jump on the truck, he's wearing short silver spurs. He doesn't have them before or after in the truck chase.

In Last Crusade, there is one scene where he's talking to Sallah after stealing the horses where they forgot to black out all of the white on his horse's nose. (In the rest of the tank chase, all you can see of this horse's blaze is a pink lower lip- they blacked it out to match the solid black horse Indy rides in Petra.) Also, the other horses they stole change color and facial markings- Sallah's horse switches between a star and a stripe marking, and Henry Sr. and Marcus's horses change color.

Also, right as the convoy stops, there seems to be a horse wearing a regular western saddle with a blanket draped across it, as if it was filmed in pick-ups and they didn't have an Arabian saddle handy.

[ReggieSnake]

Speaking of having lost items returned, how does Indy get his gun and whip back from Belloq when Belloq takes the idol from Indy? He clearly doesn't have them when running from the Hovitos, and Belloq doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would send Indy his personal effects back. Unless Indy has spares.Why not? Belloq seems like a pretty classy adversary. Besides, he got what he wanted- sending back the gun and whip would be like him saying "Here, have another go, Junior. I won again this time";).

The more probable answer is that he has spares, though.

[davejames]

Speaking of the Flying Wing... can someone tell me HOW exactly the Nazis were going to load that big ass Ark crate onto it?

The plane looked way too thin and I can't imagine there was a ton of storage space hidden in there anywhere. Were they just going to strap it on top and hope for the best? :D

[Sam Falco]

The belly of the flying wing is actually very large, there IS no interior of the plane except for the crawl space between the gun and the cockpit, so there would have been room for the ark.

MY question is: What was Indy's plan for getting onboard the plane without detection? I mean, its been established that he cant fly a plane (per Temple of Doom) and apparently he learned at some point before Crusade, but cannot land still. So... why was he attacking the pilot?

[davejames]

I don't think he had figured that part out yet. :D

[Vance]

Speaking of the Flying Wing... can someone tell me HOW exactly the Nazis were going to load that big ass Ark crate onto it?

To be.. erm.. fair.. that was just Indy's assumption. None of the Germans even seemed interested in loading the Ark on the Flying Wing. There was no loader or anything, no obvious cargo hatch big enough for the Ark, etc...

[Sam Falco]

Well thats cuz they had either just finished, or were ABOUT to start fueling the plane up. Judging by the resulting explosion at the end of the scene, I'm guessing the first one.

[davejames]

To be.. erm.. fair.. that was just Indy's assumption. None of the Germans even seemed interested in loading the Ark on the Flying Wing. There was no loader or anything, no obvious cargo hatch big enough for the Ark, etc...

Well to be fair, there IS a drawing in that old Art of Indiana Jones/Star Wars book that shows a drawing of the Ark crate being loaded under the plane.

But the plane in the drawing also looks a lot larger than the plane in the movie.

[What Truck?]

Harrison Ford trips over the barbed wire surrounding the map room and again just before the iconic shot of Indiana shot against a setting sun while searching for the ark (for reference, it is the shot after he stands on the hill holding the shovel and is walking back towards the camera while staring out across the desert).

[Kooshmeister]

I don't think he had figured that part out yet. :D

Yeah, as he says later regarding the truck: "I dunno, I'm makin' this up as I go."

[ValenciaGrail]

When Belloq describes his watch as:
"$10 from a vendor on the street...worthless"

Remember this is 1936. Applying the simple inflation model of prices doubling every 16 years...I'd say that's probably a $150-$200 watch in 2008 currency.

That's not Rolex territory, but hardly a worthless watch :confused:
$10 could have bought a pretty decent watch back then....
Heck, my 4-year old's Thomas the Tank Engine watch only cost $5.95 in 2007

Perhaps the line should have been: "50 cents from a vendor on the street..."

[Killah|Bee]

When Indy figth the big russian guy, the pat roach reprise, he looks like he was waiting for Indy to punches him, may be the age Dr Jones?

[Kooshmeister]

Pat Roach plays a Russian? When?

[Benraianajones]

I always thought it was odd, in TOD, when it cuts to a quick shot on Shorty, and he holding a small dagger in his hand in the spike room. Next we see him again, it isn't in sight.

[Bantu_Wind]

...the chamber door. You know, I've probably watched the movie a million times and when I saw it again a few days ago, I just noticed that it is not Harrison when she enters the room screaming "They're all over me! Get them off of me!" It looks like the stuntdouble. (Vic Armstrong?)

[Eric Solo]

I just re-watched Raiders with headphones on my computer and noticed 2 things I had never noticed before:

1.) When the students file out of Indy's classroom you can hear a female student say something to the effect of "He seemed a little off today. Must be because of all that traveling."

2.) The luggage rack atop the cab of the truck gets severely damaged when Indy drives the truck into some makeshift scaffolding. In the next shot, the luggage rack has been miraculously repaired.

:confused: :confused:

The truck thing is listed on the IMDb.com goofs page.

[SixKadamHigh]

cool

now i gotta go watch Raiders for the 78th time

[Crusade>Raiders]

In ToD, Indy uses his whip and flings one of the two thugee's swords off a cliff. 2 seconds later, he has a sword. How? He just flung it over the cliff!

[Crusade>Raiders]

Only, and one thing I always hated about Last Crusade, despite it being one of my favorite movies of all time, it had a weak drive. What I mean is, Raiders promised the ark was a weapon and it delivered. Even Doom promised the Sankara stones brought life and it delivered. Hell, even Kingdom promised aliens and they gave us that, for better or worse.Henry Jones Sr says that if the Nazis recover the grail the armies of darkness will cover the world and that this was a race against evil...um, the grail granted immortality for like 10 square feet. Way to let us down.

[SixKadamHigh]

In ToD, Indy uses his whip and flings one of the two thugee's swords off a cliff. 2 seconds later, he has a sword. How? He just flung it over the cliff!


If you watch it, you'll see he grabs the other dudes sword and scares him off. Then he runs screaming after him to stop and run back with the sword.

[reverendB]

When Indy is drinking in Cairo, after the truck blows up, look to his left. You will see a guy with a light blue t shirt and jeans on!! I first noticed this on my widescreen VHS, and I thought "did I just see that?" It's like the first time you notice the stormtrooper banging his head on the door in SW. You just keep rewatching it to make sure you saw correctly.

[Seaner]

Only, and one thing I always hated about Last Crusade, despite it being one of my favorite movies of all time, it had a weak drive. What I mean is, Raiders promised the ark was a weapon and it delivered. Even Doom promised the Sankara stones brought life and it delivered. Hell, even Kingdom promised aliens and they gave us that, for better or worse.Henry Jones Sr says that if the Nazis recover the grail the armies of darkness will cover the world and that this was a race against evil...um, the grail granted immortality for like 10 square feet. Way to let us down.
maybe that would mean hitler would go there and have it

[Kooshmeister]

The knight said only that the Grail itself couldn't pass beyond the seal, he said nothing about the effects of drinking from it. So to my way of thinking, the effects will last a certain length of time after leaving before wearing off. I.e. one sip will guarantee a longer life and better health but it won't last.

Thus, the only way for Hitler (or whoever) to enjoy the Grail's benefits without staying cooped up in the temple like the knight, would be making yearly trips to the temple for a sip.

[Raiders112390]

Does anyone have any *ahem* pictures of Marion from the scene where she's captured on the Banthu Wind?

[Melesse]

In raiders when they have the Ark on the island Belloq is talking to Indy and a fly goes in Belloq's mouth.

[Connery's Toupe]

In the venice boat fight by the ship, the boat that Indy is fighting in is tied to something! You can see the line attached in the camera shot from above.

[loganbush]

In raiders when they have the Ark on the island Belloq is talking to Indy and a fly goes in Belloq's mouth.

Everybody notices that.

[Connery's Toupe]

In raiders when they have the Ark on the island Belloq is talking to Indy and a fly goes in Belloq's mouth.

I didn't notice that. I'll have to look again.

[ValenciaGrail]

IN LC, when Indy, Sallah, and Henry go down to steal the horses from Donavan's crew after the Brotherhood of the Cruciform Sword starts firing them.....

Just after Indy says: "Who cares, as long as they're keeping Donovan busy":

Indy pulls off Sallah's red fez and hands it to him....since the Brotherhood wears a similar fez, which would make Sallah stand out like a sore thumb in the middle of the action.

It's a bit of a subtle gag which I just noticed while watching LC again with my son.

[NLogan]

IN LC, when Indy, Sallah, and Henry go down to steal the horses from Donavan's crew after the Brotherhood of the Cruciform Sword starts firing them.....

Just after Indy says: "Who cares, as long as they're keeping Donovan busy":

Indy pulls off Sallah's red fez and hands it to him....since the Brotherhood wears a similar fez, which would make Sallah stand out like a sore thumb in the middle of the action.

It's a bit of a subtle gag which I just noticed while watching LC again with my son.

I always thought he pulled Sallah's fez off simply because it was red and would make a good target as they clearly had already been spotted. I don't think it was because the Brotherhood had similar ones because they were already shooting at Jones and crew before the Brotherhood had launched their attack and they were still in hiding.

[TohtLikeaTiger]

I know I have too much time on my hands, but have you ever thought about how Indiana Jones is never the master of his own fate?

In Raiders, his impact on the story is almost negligible. If he hadn’t gotten involved at all, the Nazis might never have discovered the Ark. Even if they had, they would have opened it and promptly blown up/melted/shriveled/taken a high-hard-one to the gut (possibly taking the Fuhrer with them) ending the whole sad affair right there. Even when he ends up with the Ark as the last man standing, someone else comes along and makes it disappear.

The same pattern is followed in Last Crusade (his actions help attain the Grail) and Crystal Skull (he can only watch as the temple “leaves” the jungle).

It’s also interesting that the last act for these movies isn’t a big action scene with Indy having to beat up the bad guy to stop his evil plans. What other action movie can you think of that ends without the hero having a hardcore showdown with his arch nemesis???

Note that neither of these patterns is true in Temple of Doom, where he does have to fight Mola Ram at the end, and he does have an impact of the events around him – the stone and the children would never have been returned to the village if he hadn’t done something.

Indy as a “non-action” hero seems contrary to storytelling tradition, but it works somehow. In the end, we’re just like him – watching events around us that we’re unable to control. But we can take heart that everything works out for us anyway.

[lancetoris]

I've seen all the originals countless times, but I only JUST noticed the "Obi Wan" club sign when Indy and Willie jump from the window.

I'm certain I'm not the first one to notice that, but it was one of those "hey wait!" moments for me ;)

[MonarchOfTheSea]

I always wondered why Indy starts to laugh when he's about to fall to his doom in the temple in ROTLA. Then I noticed Max Zorin in A View to a Kill laugh as he's about to fall off the Golden Gate bridge?!

When I was about 10 or 11, I put this to the test. I lay on my front on the stairs near the top & grabbed the top step. Sure enough, as I began to lose my grip...I started to laugh.
It must be something in your brain that tells you, 'ah, well, might as well go laughing.'

by the way, I did survive the stairs...;)

[YouNeverKnow]

Awright, I don't see this one here.

Justed watched LC tonight, and has anyone noticed that when Henry, Sr. is firing the machine gun after the "11 o'clock!" bit, Indy pulls out his revolver and starts shooting downwards??

It made me laugh in my head because that is SUCH an impractical way of attacking an army plane.

[indyclone25]

[QUOTE=mr.wolf]well when i first saw Raiders in theaters about 3 years ago, I noticed that in the scene where Belloq has taken over the ship the Ark was on and had captured Marion and she was wearing that white silk dress, she wasn't exactly wearing panties and lets just say Karen Allen didn't exactly shave back then.[/QUOTE







you noticed that too --- i saw that in the 80s when i was a teen and i was very intrigued---

[Lonsome_Drifter]

I have also always been puzzled by one scene in ToD.
When Willie is sitting at the camp talking to Indy, we see the elephant keep annoying her with it's trunk.

Well, she gets up and moves, and then the snake comes down across her shoulder, and she grabs it (thinking it's the elephant's trunk) and throws it.
Why did this not suprise her? She just says she hates the elephant. Did she really think that she threw the elephant or ripped it's trunk off?

Another thing. ((Spoilers))
In Raiders when Indy is climbing the jackel statue in the Well of Souls, he comes face to face with a snake.
He swallows his fear and throws it down, causing it to land on Marion.

So, if he could muster enough courage to grab that snake and throw it, than why he is so damn scared to touch the one Mutt hands him in KotCS?

Don't just say, because the movie sucks.
Serious responses please. :)

[ValenciaGrail]

Well, she gets up and moves, and then the snake comes down across her shoulder, and she grabs it (thinking it's the elephant's trunk) and throws it.
Why did this not suprise her? She just says she hates the elephant. Did she really think that she threw the elephant or ripped it's trunk off?

I think we are to assume she was just blissfully ignorant of the fact that it was a snake, though the execution and direction of the scene may not have been convincing to the audience ;) The snake is heavy, and an elephant's trunk is also heavy. To her, she was just tossing away a heavy obect, she didn't notice that the snake went DOWN after she tossed it, which the trunk would not have done.

In Raiders when Indy is climbing the jackel statue in the Well of Souls, he comes face to face with a snake.
He swallows his fear and throws it down, causing it to land on Marion.

So, if he could muster enough courage to grab that snake and throw it, than why he is so damn scared to touch the one Mutt hands him in KotCS?

I think this is partially because the scene in KOTCS was viewed as a good humor/gag opportunity, and continuity / consistency with other films was not rigorously considered.

Plus - in the Well of Souls, he just had to act quickly, like ripping off a band-aid, and get rid of the snake. It was also dark, so he really didn't have to look at the snake. In the KOTCS scene, however, he had to grab and hold onto a snake in broad daylight for at least a few seconds...and a much larger one at that.
Remember that a phobia, which Indy apparently has, is an irrational fear ("Let's call it a ROPE!"). It is not just a fear driven by safety concerns (venom, etc...), which most of of have. It won't obey the sort of logical rules we'd intuitively expect. For example, many people with a fear of heights can ride on a ski lift, but cannot go past the 3rd floor of a buid\ing.

[Stoo]

Another thing. ((Spoilers))
In Raiders when Indy is climbing the jackel statue in the Well of Souls, he comes face to face with a snake.
He swallows his fear and throws it down, causing it to land on Marion.

So, if he could muster enough courage to grab that snake and throw it, than why he is so damn scared to touch the one Mutt hands him in KotCS?Spoilers? Spoilers for "Raiders"????:confused: Do you have some rare, alternate version of this scene?
Indy doesn't "grab the snake and throw it".:rolleyes:

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Spoilers? Spoilers for "Raiders"????:confused: Do you have some rare, alternate version of this scene?
Indy doesn't "grab the snake and throw it".:rolleyes:

Not spoilers for Raiders, spoilers for the snake scene in KotCS.
And, if he does not throw it. how does it fall and land on Marion?

[indytim]

In Raiders, the archery skills of one of the Hovitos makes me smile. In the very last shot of them running after Indy (it's the ground level shot from behind with all their bums on show :o ) if you watch the Hovitos on the right of the screen shots an arrow literally straight up into the air even though Indy is right in front of him. In can only conclude that this is either supposed to be an incredible trick shot which would result in the arrow coming straight down on top of Indy's head or that the Hovitos had previously attended the same shooting school as the Stormtroopers from Star Wars ;)

[nitzsche]

Not spoilers for Raiders, spoilers for the snake scene in KotCS.
And, if he does not throw it. how does it fall and land on Marion?

He burns it with the torch he has in his teeth. The snake dies and slides off and lands on Marion.

[IndyJr.]

He burns it with the torch he has in his teeth. The snake dies and slides off and lands on Marion.

Not sure it dies, but it does fall off.

[Stoo]

Not spoilers for Raiders, spoilers for the snake scene in KotCS.
And, if he does not throw it. how does it fall and land on Marion?The Spoiler section has been merged so there are no more spoilers. Pay attention, lad!:)
Now, clean your glasses (not the beer ones) and go watch "Raiders" again.;) :whip:

[Lonsome_Drifter]

The Spoiler section has been merged so there are no more spoilers. Pay attention, lad!:)
Now, clean your glasses (not the beer ones) and go watch "Raiders" again.;) :whip:

Well, I marked it as spoilers to be polite. There a rule against that?
And, the snake does fall on Marion. I assumed Indy throw it off the statue. I never said I seen him do so.

[Stoo]

Well, I marked it as spoilers to be polite. There a rule against that?
And, the snake does fall on Marion. I assumed Indy throw it off the statue. I never said I seen him do so.You did. (Which is why I replied.)

"He swallows his fear and throws it down, causing it to land on Marion.
So, if he could muster enough courage to grab that snake and throw it,..."

Plus, if you ain't never seen him throw it, then how can this part be The thing you and ONLY you think you noticed?
And no, there's no rule against being polite about spoilers but you'd think anyone on this board would have seen the film by now.:rolleyes:

[Lonsome_Drifter]

You did. (Which is why I replied.)

"He swallows his fear and throws it down, causing it to land on Marion.
So, if he could muster enough courage to grab that snake and throw it,..."

Plus, if you ain't never seen him throw it, then how can this part be The thing you and ONLY you think you noticed?
And no, there's no rule against being polite about spoilers but you'd think anyone on this board would have seen the film by now.:rolleyes:

Like I said before; the spoilers were for KotCS.
And, I assumed he threw the snake, and frankly I still think he threw the snake.

Why make such a big deal about this? :rolleyes:

[Stoo]

And, I assumed he threw the snake, and frankly I still think he threw the snake.

Why make such a big deal about this? :rolleyes:OMG. Why don't you just pop in the DVD/VHS and check?

It's not really a big deal. I'm just amazed that you don't know what happens in this scene.
It reminds me of a post about a year ago where someone said, "I've watched ToD hundreds
of times and have never noticed this ('We are going to DIE!') part.":confused:

[Lonsome_Drifter]

OMG. Why don't you just pop in the DVD/VHS and check?

It's not really a big deal. I'm just amazed that you don't know what happens in this scene.
It reminds me of a post about a year ago where someone said, "I've watched ToD hundreds
of times and have never noticed this ('We are going to DIE!') part.":confused:

Why don't you pop the movie in?
Indy climbs the jackel statue, he sees the snake coiled up. Then we see Marion holding the dying torch as the snake lands on her.

I never said I seen Indy throw the snake.
I am assuming that he did.

[Stoo]

Well then, I'm sorry if I'm sounding rude. You must have a part cut from your movie. Was it taped from TV or something?
As explained above, Indy has the torch in his mouth and is hanging on with both hands. He sees the snake and quickly
turns his head to burn the snake with the flame. This causes the snake to fall, so Indy never touches it.

Hope that clarifies things a little bit.:cool:

[Lonsome_Drifter]

Well then, I'm sorry if I'm sounding rude. You must have a part cut from your movie. Was it taped from TV or something?
As explained above, Indy has the torch in his mouth and is hanging on with both hands. He sees the snake and quickly
turns his head to burn the snake with the flame. This causes the snake to fall, so Indy never touches it.

Hope that clarifies things a little bit.:cool:

Stoo, I want to say that I also apologize.
I looked at that part on my dvd, and you are right. I hope that I did not sound rude either, and if I did I am sorry.

I have watched Raiders many times, and for some reason I seemed to have remembered that scene as I discribed it earlier.
But, you are right about the scene, and again I will say that I was wrong, and apologize.

[Rocket Surgeon]

I have never seen nor heard ANYONE mention this one, (not that it isn't burried somewhere on this site...but:

I haven't picked up the new DVD releases yet, but I was wondering about the digital scrubbing and edits to Raiders. I know the jeep over the cliff was tweaked but, (and I'm assuming you own it), did they remove the "stunt chair" mounted to the fender of the truck? You can see it before Indy goes under the truck, as Dietrich waves the driver to crush Indy between the vehicles.

:dead:

[Indy's brother]

I've been wondering where to put this for months. In LC, when they are in the converted church/library, Indy is on the balcony and says "X marks the spot!" The bookcase behind him is a flat piece of plywood painted to look like a bookcase, with the ends of book covers glued to it. I think it's there to hide a camera rig from a previous shot. I just happened to notice it once and it's bugged me ever since--and now it will bug you too!

[Lonsome_Drifter]

I've been wondering where to put this for months. In LC, when they are in the converted church/library, Indy is on the balcony and says "X marks the spot!" The bookcase behind him is a flat piece of plywood painted to look like a bookcase, with the ends of book covers glued to it. I think it's there to hide a camera rig from a previous shot. I just happened to notice it once and it's bugged me ever since--and now it will bug you too!

You know, you're right. I've never noticed that. And, it does look fake.

http://www.theraider.net/films/crusade/gallery/dvdscreenshots/113.jpg

[ninepinejones]

in rotla the spiders are on indy's back when he first passes through the spider webs and then in the next shot with satipo they are gone then satipo notices them and they are suddenly back.

also macs flashlight in kotcs is designed to look like a lightsaber.

[Dr.Jonesy]

I don't know if anybody noticed, but in KOTCS the 'Fat Boy' Nuclear bomb has the phrase "I like Ike" painted on it in white.

[Gear]

Well, considering this thread is around five pages long, I didn't sift through the many posts to see if anyone noticed this. Here goes.

During the truck chase in RotLA, Indy plows through some scaffolding and doing so causes the luggage holder(?) above the cabin to nearly fall off. However, when you see the truck again it's back in it's rightful place.


Ah-ha! Caught'cha Georgie!

[Dr.Jonesy]

Well, considering this thread is around five pages long, I didn't sift through the many posts to see if anyone noticed this. Here goes.

During the truck chase in RotLA, Indy plows through some scaffolding and doing so causes the luggage holder(?) above the cabin to nearly fall off. However, when you see the truck again it's back in it's rightful place.


Ah-ha! Caught'cha Georgie!

I always see that and it bugs me!:dead:

[Charlie Green]

The Things I have noticed In Raiders
• When Indy pushes the hole out of the wall when the camera angle changes you see a guy in a blue dress / clothing. I did some re-search and it was a deleted scene that they didn't use. (I never knew that, but did notice it)
• The fly goes in Belloq's mouth during the "I am going to shot the Ark Rene" Scene

The Things I have noticed In Temple Of Doom
• Thats not Indy when the spikes come down !

Things I noticed in Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull
• How did Irina Spalko get down to the place where the skull if kept ? The stairs had gone ?

[Rocket Surgeon]

I don't know if anybody noticed, but in KOTCS the 'Fat Boy' Nuclear bomb has the phrase "I like Ike" painted on it in white.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3436/3258351957_1a05c49af2_m.jpg

:dead:

[Dr.Jonesy]

In Last Crusade, when Indy goes to knock out the X in the wall in the catacombs, you can see the wall is in perfect condition. Then Indy hands Elsa the lighter and says "Watch out". Right before we see him ram himself into the wall the first time, you can now see that it has already been damaged from a previous hit we didn't see or hear.

Drives me nuts everytime.:dead:

[Charlie Green]

Just put on the Temple of Doom

1. As the white car turns around the side after hitting the guy into the vegtable market, The driver can be seen. It is not Short Round.

2. The guy in the back of the taxi that goes into the vegtable market changes his seat between shots. From Right to the left.

[Indy's brother]

Hidden flying saucer in KOTCS "Indy Reveal"! Some of you may think that I'm reading too much into this. Check out the hubcap:

http://mstrmnd.com/files/starhatsunsaucer.jpg

A flatter moon hubcap would have been more accurate. Also, just minutes earlier, the hubcaps had a mirror finish:

http://mstrmnd.com/files/hubcapreflection.jpg

But for the "reveal", it's a dull metallic finish--just like the ufo. It's in the shot for a reason. I'm certain that this was an effort to subliminally foreshadow the climax of the film. Just like how the air raid sirens in Doom Town sound eerily similar to the sound of the ufo starting up.

[Moedred]

I'm prone to seeing saucers too, though months after this was shot Koepp's script still had an orb (http://raven.theraider.net/showpost.php?p=319620) in the finale. They may have dulled the hubcap to prevent camera and crew reflections.

[Indy's brother]

They may have dulled the hubcap to prevent camera and crew reflections.

Yeah, I thought the same thing for a second, but this is Spielberg. He could have worked around the reflection, or had ILM digitally fix it. You make a fine point about the orb, but I'm still not sold. Indy's silhouette looks right at it, and he practically tips his hat to the thing. To me, it's just too much coincidence to be considered unintentional. If we were talking about a lesser director, I would assume you were right. I think that even though the script called for an orb, Stevo had it in his mind to make it a saucer anyway.

I'm prone to seeing saucers too

Where else?

[Stoo]

Also, just minutes earlier, the hubcaps had a mirror finish:

http://mstrmnd.com/files/hubcapreflection.jpgThis is my favourite shot in the whole movie and the flying saucer connection never even entered my head. Y'know what...I think you're onto something. Not so much the top photo but this one looks very likely. Nice one, brother!:)

[Moedred]

Where else?
Nowhere else really. Maybe here (http://raven.theraider.net/showpost.php?p=387330) and here (http://raven.theraider.net/showpost.php?p=387751)? :)

[Indy's brother]

Nowhere else really. Maybe here (http://raven.theraider.net/showpost.php?p=387330) and here (http://raven.theraider.net/showpost.php?p=387751)? :)

I could be willing to accept those, mostly the one above his head in the decon shower.

[Marionfan706]

In the Raiders classroom scene, two girls are walking out, and one says "...just off today. Must be all the traveling." It doesn't say it in the subtitles.
And also, maybe im just stating what everybody knows, but when in the ship taking them to the island where the ark opening will be held, Marion and Belloq are seen walking in the backround.
Also, off the subject, but i always laugh when i see the ship captain playing around with the compass.:hat:

[Stoo]

And also, maybe im just stating what everybody knows, but when in the ship taking them to the island where the ark opening will be held, Marion and Belloq are seen walking in the backround.Yes, and you can also see Toht, too, but they all look like stand-in actors. I don't think it's K.Allen, P.Freeman or R.Lacey.

[IndyAJA77]

well when i first saw Raiders in theaters about 3 years ago, I noticed that in the scene where Belloq has taken over the ship the Ark was on and had captured Marion and she was wearing that white silk dress, she wasn't exactly wearing panties and lets just say Karen Allen didn't exactly shave back then.


OK, I checked that scene out last night and I didn't see it. I don't know if my tv isn't big enough or what, but I didn't see what you guys saw.

[The Man]

OK, I checked that scene out last night and I didn't see it. I don't know if my tv isn't big enough or what, but I didn't see what you guys saw.

Only Blu-Ray will end this argument.

[IndyAJA77]

I wasn't disputing the claim, just saying that I didn't see what others saw on my standard def dvd with my standard def tv. I'm guessing it probably was a technology issue. Oh well.

[The Man]

I wasn't disputing the claim, just saying that I didn't see what others saw on my standard def dvd with my standard def tv. I'm guessing it probably was a technology issue. Oh well.

What brand is your TV? Bush?

[IndyAJA77]

Mine is a Sony, I don't remember the model, and it's almost 10 years old.

[Rocket Surgeon]

what is the deal with Toht in the staff car as Deitrich smashes the mellon...couldn't they get an stunt double to act a little animated while keeping the back of his head/hat towards the camera?

Looks like they hung his jacket on a hangar and his hat on a broom stick...

[Indy's Fist]

To answer the original question...I am the only person to ever notice the winds/storms that appear as the heros get closer to reaching the Ark. When Marion pulls the medallion from her blouse the wind picks up, almost blowing a nearby candle out. Later, while Indy and Sallah talk to "The Old Man" who interpreted the medllion, a wind cuts through his house. Then while Indy and the diggers finaly open the Well of the Souls a huge storm is going on. Lastly, after opening the Ark a storm erupts from the Ark.

I think all the wind & storms where warnings from God. It still give me a chill, even as I write this!

Also, I'm the only person to notice that "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is THE GREATEST FILM ACHIVEMENT OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!

[Dr.Jonesy]

I just noticed, in the sandpit scene in KOTCS, in one part you can see Mutt's buttcrack hanging out!

:sick:

[Bjorn Heimdall]

http://mstrmnd.com/files/starhatsunsaucer.jpg

I've mentioned this before but I'll do it again for the sake of having something to write about in this great thread:p

In this image you can see indy's shadow on the car (duh) so the sun must be behind him. Just moments later, Indy turns away from the vehicle (when we see him) and then back towards it, now with the sun shining in his face. This seems to indicate that the sun has shifted 180 degrees in the sky in mere seconds.

One thing in Raiders that I always love is the coat hanger scene. I bet pretty much everyone has noticed this but it's so amusing how freaked out Belloq is, no less then Marion herself. Then they share this moment of relief when they realise it's not a torturing device:up:

[Rocket Surgeon]

Indy and Dovchenko have a little duel throwing each others hats "away"...

Never heard nor saw anyone metion it.

[Arab Swordsman]

Here's one I noticed watching Raiders again over the weekend. The pilot of the flying wing (Frank Marshall) just totally ignores Indy through the yelling and the fist fight with the crew member and doesn't even hear the wrench being smacked into the prop blades. He also doesn't hear Indy jump onto the plane as he's coming towards him but he turns around and acts shocked only when the German Mechanic starts yelling at Indy. I just thought it was funny how he's oblivious to everything except the German Mechanic's voice!

[xxIndyxVogelxx]

This is probably hands-down the BEST one:

"Who the HECK is this guy?"
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=10247&highlight=heck

Anyway, this mystery man is not alone because I noticed another one. There's two!

Has anyone ever realised that when Indy gallops through the crowd of diggers to catch the desert convoy,
the shot is reversed, mirror-fashion? Indy's bag is on the wrong side and the proper shot is in the trailer.:eek:

whoa i never saw THAT guy before! and i've watched that movie more than a dozen times! good catch...i learned something new today:cool: