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Indyologist
02-11-2009, 09:00 PM
Just wanted to say an early Happy Valentine's Day to all here! Mwah!

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IndysGal41
02-11-2009, 09:18 PM
HAPPY VALENTINES YA'LL!!!!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i147/mudtrap2/video_indiana_jones.gif

Lonsome_Drifter
02-12-2009, 01:20 AM
Valentine's Day?
Blech, leaves a bad taste in my mouth not unlike bile.

Dyonus
02-12-2009, 01:20 AM
I prefer to call it "Single Awareness Day." (SAD for short.)

|ZiR|
02-12-2009, 01:27 AM
Valentine's Day?
Blech, leaves a bad taste in my mouth not unlike bile.

Why do you hate love? :(

Violet Indy
02-12-2009, 01:29 AM
Ok... that's it. Here's the rant for 2009.

Valentines is only fun for those who are romantically involved couples, which makes it very excluding of children, friends and single people, who are not neccessarily unlovable people but just so happen to not have anyone on the day whether it be by fate or their own choosing.

What other day could there be that would be great for florists to get rid of old stock and actually get enough money to pay their business bills? Think about it.

It is a day of competition for both girls in the office and girls in high school, bascially, whose boyfriend can give the biggest flowers, the female version of the guy game of mine's bigger, if you pardon the expression. Such a game is not only painful to single gals who don't have anyone but to the boyfriends that buy the gifts/flowers
. There is absolutely nothing but pain to gain from this and showing off to single friends is so not on.

My message for this 2009 V-day is this: celebrate friendship instead, the world needs that more than fairytale romantic day/night of giftgiving and love and lust, which can disappear the day after (in the world of us, Gen Y's it usually does). Real love is spontaneous not organised for just one day. Love can last for a lifetime with the right person and if you both work at it, it's sacrifice and understanding way more than flowers and chocolates. Friendship can be between more than just two people, it can connect hundreds of people. That is truly powerful, the love of humanity, humankind. Without friendship, you can't call it love. True friendship is a kind of love.


Congratulations to anyone who bothered to read all of this. :p

Single Awareness Day, lol. So true. I used to care, but you know, now that I'm working on trying to get the career I want and enjoy it, I'm not upset by it anymore.

Lonsome_Drifter
02-12-2009, 01:34 AM
Why do you hate love? :(

I don't.
It's just too commercial for me. Every holiday, even a minor one like this is nothing but a money-racket.

Gear
02-12-2009, 06:07 PM
Real love is spontaneous not organised for just one day.




So 'real love' is like human combustion?

Nurhachi1991
02-12-2009, 06:15 PM
Damn Valentines day I like this girl and want to get her something but haven't known her very long and I don't want to make things awkward.

Attila the Professor
02-12-2009, 11:39 PM
Damn Valentines day I like this girl and want to get her something but haven't known her very long and I don't want to make things awkward.

Your instinct is right. Don't give her anything.

Nurhachi1991
02-12-2009, 11:45 PM
Your instinct is right. Don't give her anything.


Good call :hat:

indy34
02-13-2009, 12:09 AM
I feel sorry for you violet I've seen my brother looking for a job too but all the TV stations have automated almost everything and no ones giving interviews for jobs because of the financial crisis:(

I prefer to call it "Single Awareness Day." (SAD for short.)
I like your idea:hat:

DoomTown
02-13-2009, 01:27 AM
Damn Valentines day I like this girl and want to get her something but haven't known her very long and I don't want to make things awkward.


Give her one of our Indy Valentines from the indy cast Flickr page...:)

That won't make things awkward AT ALL.

DocWhiskey
02-13-2009, 02:07 AM
Happy unimaginative, consumerist-oriented, and entirely arbitrary, manipulative, and shallow interpretation of romance day!

Rocket Surgeon
02-13-2009, 07:52 AM
Indulging my arbitrary contradiction disease, and/or love of spirited debate:

There's nothing wrong with a day to remember and focus on caring, sharing and appreciating those in your life not merely your signifigant other.

All these things your saying have in them an element of truth but are hardly the totality of the Observation. Instead of looking for what you may receive, take the first step. There's someone out there who has done something nice for you, it's those people you should send a card make a call, visit in the home or hospital...and none of it have to say Valentine. Not at all.

If that's too hard send an Anti Valentine to a friend who will get a laugh, at least you'll be inspiring a good feeling for the day and maybe making a memory!

There are people who are worse off than you out there, show some one they're appreciated.

Valentines day is only as commercial as you allow it to be, and pining away while desperately romantic and the fodder of Fabio covered pulp is tragic and a plot device for Farrelly Brothers Films and the ilk.

This concludes my feel good, optimistic outlook untill Easter...commence b!tching!:dead:

The Magic Rat
02-13-2009, 08:09 AM
I laugh so hard at you losers who get defensive and attack holidays. It's just a fun little day. You people really take it much too seriously.

Also, Nurhachi1991, I first took a certain girl out on Valentine's Day. The rest is ancient history, so it does work...sometimes. If you've got the cojones and aren't afraid of possibly getting shot down, go for it.

Nurhachi1991
02-13-2009, 09:26 AM
I laugh so hard at you losers who get defensive and attack holidays. It's just a fun little day. You people really take it much too seriously.

Also, Nurhachi1991, I first took a certain girl out on Valentine's Day. The rest is ancient history, so it does work...sometimes. If you've got the cojones and aren't afraid of possibly getting shot down, go for it.



Thanks man I just got back from the store got her a box of candy and I'm going to go for it. Today is Friday the 13th and I'm going to see the new Jason flick after school nothing could bring me down today even if she does reject it.

Rocket Surgeon
02-13-2009, 09:55 AM
I laugh so hard at you losers who get defensive and attack holidays. It's just a fun little day. You people really take it much too seriously.

hey, you drive your slick machine over the jersey state line?:dead:

The Man
02-13-2009, 11:57 AM
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|ZiR|
02-13-2009, 02:07 PM
No fair. Kristen Bell; one of the few women I'd switch teams for. Too cute. :up:

I laugh so hard at you losers who get defensive and attack holidays. It's just a fun little day. You people really take it much too seriously.

Agreed, though I don't laugh--I just find it a little weird. There's some tears and loneliness up in this thread. And that's OK.

Thanks man I just got back from the store got her a box of candy and I'm going to go for it. Today is Friday the 13th and I'm going to see the new Jason flick after school nothing could bring me down today even if she does reject it.

Good luck. Try to not play it up too seriously or you might come off crazy. Even if it doesn't lead to bumping uglies, it's a sweet gesture. Who wouldn't like to get some chocolates on Valentine's Day (if only from a friend)?

Pale Horse
02-13-2009, 02:20 PM
Saturday, February 14 is St. Valentine's Day. This day has come to mean flowers and candle light for lovebirds, crunchy little hearts and cards for gradeschoolers, and bitterness for those left behind.

However, the name behind the mushy cards and flower sales belonged to one or more legendary Christian men who were executed under Roman Emperor Claudius II (AD 268 - 270).

Claudius II is best known for his sound beating of the Goths. The majority of his reign was spent at war and fighting rebellion and opposition. His devotion to conquest led the Emperor to declare that no young men of fighting age could be married; they needed to focus on being soldiers. Yet according to tradition, a Christian priest named Valentine opposed Claudius' decree and secretly married young Roman soldiers to their brides. When this illegal activity was discovered, Valentine was killed.

Another tradition tells of a young man named Valentine who was imprisoned when Claudius II outlawed Christianity. The Emperor declared Christianity treasonous by definition, since no Christians would worship Caesar as Lord. Valentine was imprisoned for his faith, but while in prison, he continued to minister the Gospel of Christ even to his jailors. He befriended one jailor, who asked him to pray for his blind adopted daughter. Valentine prayed for the girl and she gained her eyesight. Valentine had the opportunity to witness to the jailor and his whole family, and a large number of them believed in Jesus. When the news reached the Emperor that Valentine was making converts even while in prison, he had Valentine beheaded on February 14, AD 269.

According to the story, young Valentine sent a note to the healed girl just before his execution. They may or may not have been in love, but he signed it, "from your Valentine" forever changing February 14th for Christianity.

St. Valentine's Day originally fell during the Roman holiday of Festival of Lupercalia. In some traditions, men went around hitting women with bloody strips of goat skin during this festival, and in other traditions girls and boys were paired up for a week. Take your pick. The holiday in Christian tradition, however, did not start out with any romance involved; it was reserved as a day honoring martyrs. In Chaucer's "Parliament of Fouls" composed around 1380, we get the first hint of Valentine's Day having a romantic connotation. In it Chaucer stated:

For this was sent on Seynt Valentyne's day Whan every foul cometh ther to choose his mate.

Martyr yourself in the way you see fit...

herr gruber
02-13-2009, 05:02 PM
Did you all know that Valentines Day was created by Simon Valentine, a greetings card designer who made a fortune.
:D

Pale Horse
02-13-2009, 05:12 PM
I think we need to get a sarcasm smiley, or a 'what are you reading' smiley.

Indy Black
02-13-2009, 06:42 PM
It can be fun but I've never taken the day too seriously. :rolleyes:

Nurhachi1991
02-13-2009, 09:01 PM
No fair. Kristen Bell; one of the few women I'd switch teams for. Too cute. :up:



Agreed, though I don't laugh--I just find it a little weird. There's some tears and loneliness up in this thread. And that's OK.



Good luck. Try to not play it up too seriously or you might come off crazy. Even if it doesn't lead to bumping uglies, it's a sweet gesture. Who wouldn't like to get some chocolates on Valentine's Day (if only from a friend)?



Thats not what I'm after with this girl I just genuinely like her she is sweet down to earth and very cute to. I gave her the candy she seemed to like it and I bailed. I couldn't even focus on Jason killing everyone during the film just her haha I know that sounds lame but it's true

No Ticket
02-14-2009, 02:59 AM
Thus begins another V-Day for poor NT to spend alone. *tear*

... Happy Valentine's to those who are all like in love or whatever. And I guess to the rest of you too haha. I am still just trying to get this girl's phone number right now. haha. By trying I mean I chickened out the first time. No Ticket is lame. Did you guys know that?

The Magic Rat
02-14-2009, 08:37 AM
Thanks man I just got back from the store got her a box of candy and I'm going to go for it. Today is Friday the 13th and I'm going to see the new Jason flick after school nothing could bring me down today even if she does reject it.

That's great, let me know how it goes (or at least how the movie was :p )

hey, you drive your slick machine over the jersey state line?

As a matter of fact I did-and you, sir, have a good taste in music :)

Nurhachi1991
02-14-2009, 12:55 PM
It went pretty good Magic Rat and the film was Fantastic!

The Man
02-14-2009, 01:39 PM
Awww...

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Violet Indy
02-14-2009, 06:30 PM
Did you all know that Valentines Day was created by Simon Valentine, a greetings card designer who made a fortune.
:D

LMAO! Well done. Well done to Pale for posting those paragraphs too. Believe it or not, I actually already did know that. I read it up a couple of years back.

Indulging my arbitrary contradiction disease, and/or love of spirited debate:

There's nothing wrong with a day to remember and focus on caring, sharing and appreciating those in your life not merely your signifigant other.

All these things your saying have in them an element of truth but are hardly the totality of the Observation. Instead of looking for what you may receive, take the first step. There's someone out there who has done something nice for you, it's those people you should send a card make a call, visit in the home or hospital...and none of it have to say Valentine. Not at all.

If that's too hard send an Anti Valentine to a friend who will get a laugh, at least you'll be inspiring a good feeling for the day and maybe making a memory!

There are people who are worse off than you out there, show some one they're appreciated.

Valentines day is only as commercial as you allow it to be, and pining away while desperately romantic and the fodder of Fabio covered pulp is tragic and a plot device for Farrelly Brothers Films and the ilk.

This concludes my feel good, optimistic outlook untill Easter...commence b!tching!

There already is a day to show appreciation to others by showing that you care.... That day is called Christmas. If you want a celebration of love, it's called a Wedding Day or an Anniversary. If you want to show appreciation for a certain someone as a friend, it's called a Birthday. In any case, what I don't get, is we really celebrate only three saints in the year: Saint Valentines, Saint Patrick's and Saint Nicholas. I really don't think it's fair on all the other saints don't you agree? Looking at it from that perspective. For example, the European tradition of Halloween is followed up the next day by All Saints Day, which is a day of rememobrance for those that you loved and have passed away. Nowdays, All Saints Day is something that you really don't hear about anymore.

I believe that you should show appreciation and love for people in your everyday actions, help a sibling with their homework even though you think you're working on something more important, sit down and eat dinner with your family with the TV off (when you're able, if not, just sit down and talk to them). Simple, little Acts of Random Kindness is way more powerful in the long term in the end. Acts that are sponteneous and not brought on by a particular day.

Rocket Surgeon
02-14-2009, 10:28 PM
There already is a day to show appreciation to others by showing that you care.... That day is called Christmas. If you want a celebration of love, it's called a Wedding Day or an Anniversary. If you want to show appreciation for a certain someone as a friend, it's called a Birthday. In any case, what I don't get, is we really celebrate only three saints in the year: Saint Valentines, Saint Patrick's and Saint Nicholas. I really don't think it's fair on all the other saints don't you agree? Looking at it from that perspective. For example, the European tradition of Halloween is followed up the next day by All Saints Day, which is a day of rememobrance for those that you loved and have passed away. Nowdays, All Saints Day is something that you really don't hear about anymore.

I believe that you should show appreciation and love for people in your everyday actions...
Not surprising, I disagree, somewhat!

Christmas celebrates the birth of, to paraphrase a relative of sorts to this site, A New Hope...the person who sacrificed his life to redeem the sins of mankind. Whereas the the giving of gifts is a loving sentiment, it is a secular addition to a religious observance that tends to overshadow and supplant the nature of the day.

St Patrick's Day isn't about overindulging green beer it's more about the celebrating the long over looked and rather misunderstood Catholic policy of inclusion. St Patrick was able to illustrate the compatibility of some pagan values with church teachings, in sharp contrast to those who would enslave the Irish and fruitlessly attempt to forcibly convert them.

I always thought Halloween was an Irish invention but we all like to take credit...again All Saints was the Catholic Church's answer to the perceived threat of the pagan observance...a sort of Death Day, as you put it: "rememobrance for those that you loved and have passed away." Some of us still observe and "keep the tradition alive" to quote an Irish ditty.

There's nothing wrong with a formal day set aside to focus thought and deed on as you say: "appreciation and love for people...". Try not to confuse those who capitalize on the sentimental and the overall ideal of the day.

As my dear sweet Irish mother taught me, "anything run by man is subject to corruption", but those things inspired by God and love will withstand the test of time!

Just look at this msg board for confirmation of that.

Happy St Valentines Day Violet.
:D

Nurhachi1991
02-15-2009, 12:37 AM
Your a very wise man Rocket Surgeon :hat:

Violet Indy
02-15-2009, 02:07 AM
Not surprising, I disagree, somewhat!

Christmas celebrates the birth of, to paraphrase a relative of sorts to this site, A New Hope...the person who sacrificed his life to redeem the sins of mankind. Whereas the the giving of gifts is a loving sentiment, it is a secular addition to a religious observance that tends to overshadow and supplant the nature of the day.

St Patrick's Day isn't about overindulging green beer it's more about the celebrating the long over looked and rather misunderstood Catholic policy of inclusion. St Patrick was able to illustrate the compatibility of some pagan values with church teachings, in sharp contrast to those who would enslave the Irish and fruitlessly attempt to forcibly convert them.

I always thought Halloween was an Irish invention but we all like to take credit...again All Saints was the Catholic Church's answer to the perceived threat of the pagan observance...a sort of Death Day, as you put it: "rememobrance for those that you loved and have passed away." Some of us still observe and "keep the tradition alive" to quote an Irish ditty.

There's nothing wrong with a formal day set aside to focus thought and deed on as you say: "appreciation and love for people...". Try not to confuse those who capitalize on the sentimental and the overall ideal of the day.

As my dear sweet Irish mother taught me, "anything run by man is subject to corruption", but those things inspired by God and love will withstand the test of time!

Just look at this msg board for confirmation of that.

Happy St Valentines Day Violet.
:D

Maybe Australia is a backward country, but you know, when my parents were kids, there was no such thing as Valentine's Day. I've even asked my grandparents (who are of Euro descent) and even they have never heard of such a thing till these days. To me, that destroys any validity of the day being traditional and because of that fact isn't worth celebrating (Love Day I thought was a joke on the Simpsons, turned out to be real in the US and I can tell you, it don't exist here). When I was a kid in school, there was no Valentine's Day until I was at high school in Year 9, and they sold roses for cancer charities. Which I don't have a problem with. I have already said what I have a problem with.

I don't care if others celebrate the day coz it's their choice, BUT what I do want people to be aware of, is the potential hurt it can cause young single people who aren't bad people, just not in love and to be aware of some of the falseness that comes with the day. Being a girl, I could go on and on about how bloody competitive it is comes Valentines Day and the taunts that come if you don't have a man on one arm and a rose in the other and would very much rather see what you're suggesting (which if you read my first post, is what I was asking people to do so at least we can agree on one thing) and if people did that, then I wouldn't have a problem.

As for Christmas.... Isn't sacrifice an act of love? Aren't good Christians supposed to apply the teachings and love of Christ to their lives? That's what I've been brought up to believe Christmas is about. "Good will to all men" and that kind of thing. Funny, you didn't say anything about weddings, anniversaries or birthday's. And if you wishing me a Happy V Day, is a form of sarcasm (can't tell since this is all written words and tone can sometimes be lost) something that is meant to anger me, then it certainly says a lot about you, especially being a defender of the day.

Indy's brother
02-15-2009, 02:24 AM
Valentine's day is a commercial holiday that gives forgetful husbands another night in the dog house, and gives lonely people an affirmation to their depression. Hey, it's nice to be appreciated, but if your appreciation is the result of a calendar duty, what good is it? It's just another bull s**t holiday that tugs at the heartstrings.

If someone loves you, you should already know it. If you love someone, then they should know it. If your feelings are not reciprocated openly, whether said or unsaid, then it's not love at all. A date on a calendar, or a card, or a dying flower cannot make or break the truth.

Valentine's Day is a holiday for those who are young in love. Training wheels for those who haven't learned how feel, know, or understand their relationship, and need to be consoled by an outward gesture. The true worth of your relationship is manifested in the small moments. That comes with time, and an emotional investment that negates an official day.

All bulls**t aside, Happy Valentine's Day, Violet Indy:
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Nurhachi1991
02-15-2009, 02:51 AM
This probally applys to most of us on the forum

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Indy's brother
02-15-2009, 03:27 AM
This probally applys to most of us on the forum

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$156 vs $85? That may compensate for the glass ceiling, but I could really use the $71 difference.

Rocket Surgeon
02-15-2009, 01:02 PM
And if you wishing me a Happy V Day, is a form of sarcasm (can't tell since this is all written words and tone can sometimes be lost) something that is meant to anger me, then it certainly says a lot about you, especially being a defender of the day.

No good deed goes unpunished, but there are lot's of things to rally against than rampant comercialism. Rather than go down the list point by point I figured I'd hit the high notes...these conversations are getting pretty thick, not for light reading! I could but really it's just to GET TO KNOW YOU..(ME).

All these negative things are valid, and much like a Rorschach test, it brings out the bagage people bring to the table(forum).

It wasn't sarcasm, it was more like Linus punctuating his soliloquy regarding Christmas, you know like: "and that is what Christmas is all about Charlie Brown".

I appreciate the benefit of the doubt regarding tone. For future reference, I tend to fight fire with fire,match up, or step up to a line(drawn in the sand for instance). It's a rare thing for me to lash out at someone who hasn't already drawn "first blood" as it were.

I do tend to have the prove it to me, doubting thomas thing going on and like to ask questions rather than rag on people...but it's only a tendancy.

If I meant to anger you, you'd either be writing in all caps or boarding a plane about now!

Rocket Surgeon
02-15-2009, 01:16 PM
Your a very wise man Rocket Surgeon :hat:

Flattery will get you everywhere! Thanks, I think you're in the minority with that sentiment!:D

The Magic Rat
02-15-2009, 01:28 PM
Not surprising, I disagree, somewhat!

Christmas celebrates the birth of, to paraphrase a relative of sorts to this site, A New Hope...the person who sacrificed his life to redeem the sins of mankind. Whereas the the giving of gifts is a loving sentiment, it is a secular addition to a religious observance that tends to overshadow and supplant the nature of the day.

St Patrick's Day isn't about overindulging green beer it's more about the celebrating the long over looked and rather misunderstood Catholic policy of inclusion. St Patrick was able to illustrate the compatibility of some pagan values with church teachings, in sharp contrast to those who would enslave the Irish and fruitlessly attempt to forcibly convert them.

I always thought Halloween was an Irish invention but we all like to take credit...again All Saints was the Catholic Church's answer to the perceived threat of the pagan observance...a sort of Death Day, as you put it: "rememobrance for those that you loved and have passed away." Some of us still observe and "keep the tradition alive" to quote an Irish ditty.

There's nothing wrong with a formal day set aside to focus thought and deed on as you say: "appreciation and love for people...". Try not to confuse those who capitalize on the sentimental and the overall ideal of the day.

As my dear sweet Irish mother taught me, "anything run by man is subject to corruption", but those things inspired by God and love will withstand the test of time!

Just look at this msg board for confirmation of that.

Happy St Valentines Day Violet.
:D

Well said.

Rocket Surgeon
02-15-2009, 11:04 PM
As a matter of fact I did-and you, sir, have a good taste in music :)

I don't think I have to tell you the same my man, just take care of the barefoot girl and don't let your dreams gun you down!

:dead:

The Magic Rat
02-16-2009, 08:08 AM
I don't think I have to tell you the same my man, just take care of the barefoot girl and don't let your dreams gun you down!

:dead:

:p, very nice

Finn
02-16-2009, 09:42 AM
Maybe Australia is a backward country, but you know, when my parents were kids, there was no such thing as Valentine's Day. To offer you some European insight, it truly seems a think worth of some mark in the Anglo-Saxon cultures only. It has made the calendars in my native Finland as well, but in here it's called Ystävänpäivä which literally translates as the "Day of Friendship" and is meant to celebrate as such. Sure, it carries the romantic undertones of our American friends, but letting it come and go is certainly not something that would lead to a "night in the doghouse" as fittingly described already. Thank god for the practicality of this nation.

Or then the reason for the subtle change in the general theming is due to the fact that Finns are usually able to only display their true feelings while drunk. And since the Feb 14th often falls in the middle of the week and on a working day, it's simply a pre-emptive measure to keep the society running on Feb 15th as well...

Gear
02-16-2009, 12:35 PM
The dissatisfaction you all seem to have with Valentines Day is a two fold issue. Sure, like previously stated, the candid display of affection on the occasion is always a nice gesture, but remember that most anything that is promisingly profitable is raped by corporation. Anything that can be stolen from you, repackaged, and sold back. Goes for a whole spectrum of genres.





Commercialization killed the Kurt Cobain

herr gruber
02-16-2009, 01:09 PM
LMAO! Well done. Believe it or not, I actually already did know that. I read it up a couple of years back.

You read that Simon Valentine created Valentine's Day?:D

Rocket Surgeon
02-16-2009, 01:20 PM
Commercialization killed the Kurt Cobain

Thank God or we still might have to listen to Nirvana, and COURTNEY LOVE instead of the Foo Fighters who are VASTLY superior!

:dead:

Gear
02-16-2009, 01:36 PM
Don't thank god, thank Miss Love.

Rocket Surgeon
02-16-2009, 03:13 PM
Don't thank god, thank Miss Love.

Ah why wake her up...she doesn't deserve a godd@mned thing!:dead:

Gear
02-16-2009, 04:13 PM
Are you saying she should just crawl into a H.O.L.E. and die?

Rocket Surgeon
02-16-2009, 04:31 PM
Are you saying she should just crawl into a H.O.L.E. and die?

I don't think she'd be missed besides by her dealers/doctors.

Is her old band's name an acronym? If it is...what does it stand for?:dead:

Gear
02-16-2009, 04:41 PM
Is her old band's name an acronym?

Accordingly it isn't, that's just how I spellerd it.