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Rocket Surgeon
11-11-2009, 01:15 PM
I heard this rumor but never gave it much thought, (until now) regarding US Military Chaplins administering Last Rites to Satan Worshipers!

Gives a new perspective to "Jihad"...do other countries have similar military recognition of this "group"? It would be interesting indeed to hear the insights of a man of the cloth who has given such, well if not "blessings", "curses"(?).

For your amazed reading (dis)pleasure:

http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/ChaplainsHandbook.html

Extracted from:

DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY PAMPHLET NO. 165-13

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RELIGIOUS REQUIREMENTS AND PRACTICES


of Certain Selected Groups


A HANDBOOK FOR CHAPLAINS




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HEADQUARTERS, DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
APRIL 1978




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CHURCH OF SATAN
Post Office Box 7633
San Francisco, California 94120 Anton S. LaVey
High Priest



AKA: Satanists




HISTORICAL ROOTS: The Church of Satan is an eclectic body that traces its origin to many sources - classical voodoo, the Hell-Fire Club of eighteenth century England, the ritual magic of Aleister Crowley, and the Black Order of Germany in the 1920s and 1930s. It departs from its predecessors by (1) its organization into a church, and (2) the openness of its magical endeavors.
CURRENT WORLD LEADER: Anton Szandor LaVey, High Priest.
ORIGINS IN THE U.S.: The Church of Satan was formed on Walpurgisnacht, April 30, 1966, in San Francisco California, when Anton LaVey proclaimed the beginning of the Satanic Era. Initial growth came from coverage in the mass media. Articles included coverage of LaVey holding a funeral for a member of the U.S. Navy killed in San Francisco.
NUMBER OF ADHERENTS IN THE U.S.: Between 10,000 and 20,000.
ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE: The Church of Satan is focused in the Central Grotto in San Francisco. It accepts or rejects all potential members and charters other grottos (congregations) around the country. Isolated individuals relate directly to the Central Grotto. Power to regulate members is in the hands of the Head of the Church.
LEADERSHIP AND ROLE OF PRIESTS: The Priesthood of the Church of Satan is not comprised of individuals who are necessarily adept in the performance of rituals, though pastoral and organizational abilities are not minimized. The rank of Priest is conferred on those who have achieved a measurable degree of esteem or proficiency and/or success; one's level of membership within the Church is commensurate with his/her position outside the Church. Hence a respected career soldier or Commissioned Officer in the Army might qualify, though be totally uninvolved with group activity. This form of stratification determines the leadership and selects the governing body of the Church. Rituals are conducted by a de facto priest i.e., a celebrant member who has evidenced a working knowledge of and ability to conduct services and is authorized by the Central Grotto.
WHO MAY CONDUCT A RITUAL? Anyone, but a priest is required for group worship.
IS GROUP WORSHIP REQUIRED? No, but it is strongly encouraged, because it is a strong reinforcement of the faith and instillation of power.
WORSHIP REQUIREMENTS: Worship in the Church of Satan is based upon the belief that man needs ritual, dogma, fantasy, and enchantment. Worship consists of magical rituals and there are three basic kinds: sexual rituals, to fulfill a desire; compassionate rituals, to help another; and destructive rituals, used for anger, annoyance, or hate. Grottos often gather on Friday evenings for group rituals.
MINIMUM EQUIPMENT FOR WORSHIP: Varies with the type of ritual performed but is likely to include a black robe, an altar, the symbol of the Baphomet (Satan), candles, a bell, a chalice, elixir (wine or some other drink most pleasing to the palate), a sword, a model phallus, a gong, and parchment.
FACILITIES FOR WORSHIP: A private place where an altar can be erected and rituals performed.
OTHER SPECIFIC RELIGIOUS REQUIREMENTS OTHER THAN WORSHIP: None.
DIETARY LAWS OR RESTRICTIONS: None.
SPECIAL RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS: The highest holiday in the Satanic religion is one's own birthday. Every man is a God as he chooses to recognize that fact. After one's birthday, Walpurgisnacht (April 30) and Halloween are most important. April 30 is the grand climax of the spring equinox and Halloween was one of the times of the great fire festivals among the ancient Druids. The solstices and equinoxes - which fall in March, June, September, and December and mark the first day of the new seasons - are also celebrated.
FUNERAL AND BURIAL REQUIREMENTS: The priests of the Church of Satan perform funerals, and the Central Grotto should be contacted in case of death.
AUTOPSY: No restrictions.
CREMATIONS: Only permitted in extreme circumstances, such as an expedient measure where it is necessary to safeguard the health of others.
MEDICAL TREATMENT: No restrictions.
UNIFORM APPEARANCE REQUIREMENTS: No restrictions.
POSITION ON SERVICE IN THE ARMED SERVICES: None.
IS A PRIEST REQUIRED AT TIME OF DEATH? No.
ANY OTHER PRACTICES OR TEACHINGS WHICH MAY CONFLICT WITH MILITARY DIRECTIVES OR PRACTICES: None.
BASIC TEACHINGS OR BELIEFS: The Church of Satan worships Satan, most clearly symbolized in the Roman God Lucifer, the bearer of light, the spirit of the air, and the personification of enlightenment. Satan is not visualized as an anthropomorphic being, rather he represents the forces of nature. To the Satanist, the self is the highest embodiment of human life and is sacred. The Church of Satan is essentially a human potential movement, and members are encouraged to develop whatever capabilities they can by which they might excel. They are, however, cautioned to recognize their limitations - an important factor in this philosophy of rational self-interest. Satanists practice magick, the art of changing situations or events in accordance with one's will, which would, using normally accepted methods, be impossible.
CREEDAL STATEMENTS AND/OR AUTHORITATIVE LITERATURE: The writings of Anton S. LaVey provide the direction for the Satanists - The Satanic Bible, The Compleat Witch, and The Satanic Rituals. (See also "Ethical Practices.") Members are encouraged to study pertinent writings which serve as guidelines for Satanic thought, such as works of Mark Twain, Niccolo Machiavelli, G.B. Shaw, Ayn Rand, Friedrich Nietzsche, etc.
ETHICAL PRACTICES: The ethical stance of the Church of Satan is summarized in the Nine Satanic Statements: "(1) Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!; (2) Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!; (3) Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!; (4) Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!; (5) Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!; (6) Satan represents responsibility for the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires!; (7) Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all fours, who, because of his 'divine and intellectual development' has become the most vicious animal of all!; (8) Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!; (9) Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!"
Beyond the above principles, Satanists generally oppose the use of narcotics which dull the senses, and suicide, which cuts off life (the great indulgence), and stand firmly for law and order. The Church of Satan is not to be confused with "Satanist" groups which have been found to engage in illegal acts.
HOW DOES THE CHURCH OF SATAN RECRUIT NEW MEMBERS? The church does not proselytize but welcomes inquiries from honest potential Satanists who hear about the Church from the various books about it, the mass media, or word-of-mouth. New members must go though a screening process before they are accepted.
RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER RELIGIONS: The Church of Satan stands as gathering point for all those who believe in what the Christian Church opposes and members are generally hostile to its teachings and resultant behavior patterns. To a lesser extent, the same position holds for Eastern religions.

Pale Horse
11-11-2009, 01:42 PM
Search Member Michael Aquino. And I'll ponder at this point ... what to do with this thread.

Rocket Surgeon
11-11-2009, 01:49 PM
Search Member Michael Aquino. And I'll ponder at this point ... what to do with this thread.

This is a thread for the adult consideration and discussion of as reasonable a topic as any other, (I hope). The rules must serve the devil as well as everyone else, NO?

...Searching...

Moedred
11-11-2009, 02:15 PM
This is a thread for the adult consideration and discussion of as reasonable a topic as any other, (I hope).
9 threads about 9 different boy bands would be no less mature, and we'd start merging or deleting. You're reaching critical mass.

These threads are intended as bait for one or two other Raveners who should be on your ignore list if you can't stand them. Have you considered they may be ignoring you?

Stoo
11-11-2009, 02:21 PM
HISTORICAL ROOTS: The Church of Satan is an eclectic body that traces its origin to many sources - classical voodoo, the Hell-Fire Club of eighteenth century EnglandMany years ago, I visited the tunnels & caves of The Hell Fire Club in West Wycombe, England. Anyone care to guess which prominent, American, historical figure was a guest at one of their evenings of debauchery? Benji Franklin!:eek:

Rocket Surgeon
11-11-2009, 02:29 PM
9 threads about 9 different boy bands would be no less mature, and we'd start merging or deleting. You're reaching critical mass.

These threads are intended as bait for one or two other Raveners who should be on your ignore list if you can't stand them. Have you considered they may be ignoring you?

Appreciate the warning. To avoid any problems, what rule(s) have I or am near to breaking?

My threads are not bait, nor are they repellent. Each has been posted in and in some cases thanked and praised by a variety of Raven Members.

As someone might want to obsess about bodily functions, relationships, sports or music, I enjoy the debate surrounding faith.

How have I erred in posing such questions to people on this board whose opinions and banter I enjoy and respect?

Rocket Surgeon
11-11-2009, 02:33 PM
Many years ago, I visited the tunnels & caves of The Hell Fire Club in West Wycombe, England. Anyone care to guess which prominent, American, historical figure was a guest at one of their evenings of debauchery? Benji Franklin!:eek:

I HAVE heard this mentioned, but only in passing

Did they offer any solid info?

Any pics/stories?

What I'm curious about is the conditions one would have to satisfy to be recognized by the Military.

At some future point could there be a military Chaplin giving Jedi last rights on the Battlefield?

Nurhachi1991
11-11-2009, 02:39 PM
So we can have numerous threads about the Devil and hell and the occult but having three threads on Michael Jackson is to much?

Rocket Surgeon
11-11-2009, 02:56 PM
So we can have numerous threads about the Devil and hell and the occult but having three threads on Michael Jackson is to much?

I understand how you feel, but really we don't.

Indiana Jones goes to Hell: A quote from Spielberg describing the Music of Temple of Doom, (not The Temple of Roses!) and the thread references the parallels between the story of the movie and the Bibles explanation of the period between Jesus' execution and Resurection. Got to get back to that one!

Trenches of Hell: an episode of The Young Indy Chronicles, Hell refers to a state of being not the location

The Devils Lair: a name given to ancient digs in Australia

The Gates of Hell: a famous sculpture by Rodin and curiously enough a site near Turkmenistan

Ha Satan, The Devil, Iblis, Lucifer, Legion, Baal...
well there youhave it, diverse culture views and evolution of the dark side of man and or God's creation.

Hardly numerous threads about the Devil! They all have that exciting, eye catching curiosity-itching and compelling commonality: an easily misconstrued name.

And therin lies the dilemma, are you judging a book by it's cover?

Wasn't Indiana Jones first described as expert on the occult?

These topics, to your taste or not, are FAR and away more at home on an Indiana Jones message board then your other "hero".

Rocket Surgeon
11-11-2009, 03:19 PM
Stoo, not that you can't see for yourself, but I'm still interested:

I HAVE heard this mentioned, but only in passing

Did they offer any solid info?

Any pics/stories?

What I'm curious about is the conditions one would have to satisfy to be recognized by the Military.

At some future point could there be a military Chaplin giving Jedi last rights on the Battlefield?

I have a friend who is the guard for a chaplin in Iraq as he gives last rights to soldiers, I'll have to send him a letter with the Halloween candy/care package. (They're always asking for booze!).

Stoo
11-12-2009, 02:05 PM
Stoo, not that you can't see for yourself, but I'm still interestedThe site itself was pretty cool with a long, erractic tunnel which had several caves off to the side. One was a large room for banquets and at then, at the end, there was a subterranean river (the "Styx") before a final chamber.

The info plaques on the walls constantly reminded tourists that B.Franklin was a member of the Hell Fire Club but there wasn't much info on his actual participation apart from him being a good friend of the leader and attending wild nights at the place. What did go on was a LOT OF DRINKING and LOTS OF SEX. (Sometimes prostitutes were brought in and dressed as nuns!:eek:) The plaques also went on repeatedly about the infamous "monkey incident" where someone brought in a mysterious box or covered cage and unveiled a monkey saying that it was the Devil incarnate. Apparently, the monkey got loose and wreaked havoc on the dining table.

I don't remember much else but the ties with Satanic ritual were well acknowleged. Looks like Benji, one of America's foremost, founding fathers was no saint!:eek:

Jack Nelligan
11-12-2009, 02:16 PM
The site itself was pretty cool with a long, erractic tunnel which had several caves off to the side. One was a large room for banquets and at then, at the end, there was a subterranean river (the "Styx") before a final chamber.

The info plaques on the walls constantly reminded tourists that B.Franklin was a member of the Hell Fire Club but there wasn't much info on his actual participation apart from him being a good friend of the leader and attending wild nights at the place. What did go on was a LOT OF DRINKING and LOTS OF SEX. (Sometimes prostitutes were brought in and dressed as nuns!:eek:) The plaques also went on repeatedly about the infamous "monkey incident" where someone brought in a mysterious box or covered cage and unveiled a monkey saying that it was the Devil incarnate. Apparently, the monkey got loose and wreaked havoc on the dining table.

I don't remember much else but the ties with Satanic ritual were well acknowleged. Looks like Benji, one of America's foremost, founding fathers was no saint!:eek:


Have you actually been there, or did you watch the TV show about it a couple of weeks ago? They gave the exact same information you just posted, almost word for word.
Your post almost reads like a transcript from the show.

Rocket Surgeon
11-12-2009, 02:22 PM
The info plaques on the walls constantly reminded tourists that B.Franklin was a member of the Hell Fire Club but there wasn't much info on his actual participation apart from him being a good friend of the leader and attending wild nights at the place...Looks like Benji, one of America's foremost, founding fathers was no saint!:eek:

Well a scientist at heart, (and Jeffersonian Horn-Dog as well), I would expect to understand something you have to experience it.

Much different from condoning it!

edit:Benjamin Franklin is also said to have occasionally attended the club's meetings during 1758 as a non-member during his time in England. However, some authors and historians would argue Benjamin Franklin was in fact a spy

Search Member Michael Aquino. Can you believe an ordained Satanic Priest is a member here? WOW.

Pale, I read his Post-Raiders story, (eventually skipping the "Temple of Set" philosophies) and it was interesting at points, silly regarding all of the "coincidences", (look alikes, Marions name etc)...but I came away feeling like it was propaganda of a sort.

Thanks for the heads up...

Stoo
11-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Have you actually been there, or did you watch the TV show about it a couple of weeks ago? They gave the exact same information you just posted, almost word for word.
Your post almost reads like a transcript from the show.Well, Jack, you can chalk that down to a complete coincidence. Being on an internet forum, I can understand your skepticism but there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT I WOULD EVER LIE about my experiences and have no idea what TV show you're talking about. All those words are my own and you have my word on that.:hat:

My best friends & I went to the caves in the summer of 1993 (simply because we missed the tour bus to Stonehenge and chose something else to see outside of London). On a hilltop nearby the caves, there was/is a strange temple-like structure of columns/arches which had been defaced by spray-painted Satanic symbols. A go-cart track was across the road with a pasture of sheep right beside it. (We went on the go-carts to kill time while waiting for the bus to come pick us up.)
Well a scientist at heart, (and Jeffersonian Horn-Dog as well), I would expect to understand something you have to experience it.

Much different from condoning it!

edit:Benjamin Franklin is also said to have occasionally attended the club's meetings during 1758 as a non-member during his time in England. However, some authors and historians would argue Benjamin Franklin was in fact a spyEntirely possible but, apparently, he was known to be a womanizer so maybe he was drawn in by the sex factor.

Jack Nelligan
11-12-2009, 03:11 PM
Well, Jack, you can chalk that down to a complete coincidence. Being on an internet forum, I can understand your skepticism but there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT I WOULD EVER LIE about my experiences and have no idea what TV show you're talking about. All those words are my own and you have my word on that.:hat:

My best friends & I went to the caves in the summer of 1993 (simply because we missed the tour bus to Stonehenge and chose something else to see outside of London). On a hilltop nearby the caves, there was/is a strange temple-like structure of columns/arches which had been defaced by spray-painted Satanic symbols. A go-cart track was across the road with a pasture of sheep right beside it. (We went on the go-carts to kill time while waiting for the bus to come pick us up.)
Entirely possible but, apparently, he was known to be a womanizer so maybe he was drawn in by the sex factor.


Didn't mean that you were lying, just thought you would like to know that there was a TV show that saw things your way. If you ever need a job you could be a tour guide there.

Are those caves really 300ft below ground?