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Attila the Professor
09-19-2002, 07:13 PM
First off, I'd like to hear an opinion or two on my new signature, but on to the point.

If Indiana's last name was Smith instead of Jones, would the character have had been as successful?

Somehow, I don't think so. Smith doesn't seem to have the edge the Jones seems to.

[Edited by Attila the Professor on 09-20-2002 at 05:16 am]

00Kevin
09-19-2002, 07:27 PM
uhhh, no, it's not the kind of this to start a new thread, but, a nice little line non-the-less

thinkking: 'why am I sayiong this again?'

Chattar Lal
09-18-2004, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by Attila the Professor
First off, I'd like to hear an opinion or two on my new signature, but on to the point.

If Indiana's last name was Smith instead of Jones, would the character have had been as successful?

Somehow, I don't think so. Smith doesn't seem to have the edge the Jones seems to.

[Edited by Attila the Professor on 09-20-2002 at 05:16 am]

If his name had of been Indiana Smith it wouldn't have mattered. However, now we are all use to the name Jones. Jones and Smith are just common surnames.

Ayrun
09-18-2004, 10:50 AM
CL; why in earth would you bump a 2 year old thread, when you have nothing to add to the topic anyway?

Mods; how much longer must we put up with this?

Webley
09-18-2004, 11:37 AM
This is why Fisk should have never goten the boot from this place he would have chewed this guy up and spat him out a week a go.

Chattar Lal
09-18-2004, 01:47 PM
George Lucas originally wanted to call his daring archaeologist "Indiana Smith," which Steven Spielberg thought sounded too mundane. Together, they settled on "Jones."




The first choice for Indy was ET actor Peter Coyote, when it was realised that no one knew who he was Tom Selleck was approached to play “Indiana Smith”, but he had to drop out due to filming commitments on Magnum P.I. The character was renamed when Lucas’s carpenter chum Harrison Ford was brought on board.



I reckon Peter Coyote would have made a great Indy…

Sundance
09-18-2004, 02:17 PM
Indiana Jones or Indiana Smith.

Chattar Lal
09-18-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Webley
This is why Fisk should have never goten the boot from this place

You're wrong if you think I'm glad that Fisk is gone. You've been away so I'll excuse you. Just read some of my other posts that have been closed because they supported Fisk. Ayrun, I've looked back to old threads and found them to be more interesting. If the topic doesn't interest you then don't reply. Simple...

Ayrun
09-18-2004, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Chattar Lal
Ayrun, I've looked back to old threads and found them to be more interesting. If the topic doesn't interest you then don't reply. Simple...

I'm getting sick and tired of you constantly editing your posts.

When I reacted, you had written something along the lines of 'what 00Kevin meant with his post'…. A rather stupid reaction, considering the post was made 2 years ago.

Chattar Lal
09-18-2004, 07:00 PM
Ayrun, I didn't notice that the thread was so old until after you mentioned it. I never look at the dates.

Back on topic

I found a great article on George Lucas which mentions Indiana Smith: Nicknamed the “Mythmaker”, George Lucas’s vision, determination, and dedication have forever changed the way in which the world will view movies. Despite never seeing Lucas’s most popular series, Star Wars, I am able to say he was a creator of my favorite movies, the Indiana Jones collection. “Disc Four” of the recently released Indiana Jones Trilogy DVD Set took a special look at the making of Indiana Jones and the two men responsible, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg. Lucas’s influence in the movie and learning a tad about his company, “Industrial Light and Magic” urged me to find out more about the life of George Lucas.
George Lucas was born in Modesto Calif. a quickly sought to bend the rules. A D-plus average student due to laziness rather than intelligence, Lucas spent most of his time at the racetrack or playing with cars. When he was a senior in high school, Lucas had a close call with death when he crashed his “cruising” car. This life changing accident gave him, “my second life – the decision to go to college and make something of myself.” Lucas attended the University of Southern California file school and after one semester knew he was doing something he loved.

After graduation Lucas set himself on a trek of creating films. “American Graffiti”, a film with multiple plot lines and “tricked-out” cars, was a tribute to childhood growing up in Modesto. During filming of “American Graffiti”, Lucas was often found reading a newspaper or sleeping on the set. Few knew the reason. Lucas was immersing himself in the writing of “Star Wars.”

During the time, Lucas would obsess over the writing and designing of his new movie. Unfortunately, those around Lucas who loved him, especially his wife, were often hurt by his determination. John Baxter, author of the biography “Mythmaker”, said "She made him a tuna-salad sandwich the way his mother used to, on white bread with the crusts removed, and he went to bed." This was the only time George’s wife spent with him during this period and Baxter would speculate this was one of the reasons for the divorce of Lucas and his wife.

Upon completion of “American Graffiti”, Lucas decided which would be his next film, a sort-of “Space Opera” called “Star Wars” or an update to the Golden Age comic books starring Indiana Smith. As history would have it, he chose Star Wars and went on to revolutionize filmmaking. In 1977, during the filming of Star Wars, Lucas began his own special effects company, Industrial Light and Magic, after a disagreement with Twentieth Century Fox. Industrial Light and Magic, better known as ILM, first used a motion control camera in Star Wars.

Four years later that idea for a Golden Age comic book character named Indiana Smith would return when Lucas met with his old college friend Steven Spielberg. After sharing the script with Spielberg in hopes to win him over, Spielberg reluctantly joined. Spielberg shared he was worried that Indiana Smith wouldn’t catch on to that generation and that no actor could fill the role described by Lucas. Luckily on night while working on the script with his dog Jones, Lucas would ask, “What should I do with Indiana? Jones.” He says he instantly had it; Indiana Jones would catch the audience. Then he went back to his days of American Graffiti and contacted Harrison Ford to play the role of Indy.

The first of three Indian Jones movies was titled, “Raiders of the Lost Arc.” and was released in 1981. Again, Lucas’s Industrial Light and Magic would handle the special effects. Still today at Walt Disney World’s MGM Studios you can go to the Indiana Jones Attraction and see many of the stunts that helped make this movie a timeless classic. During the time of these amazing movies, Lucas was still busy pushing the envelope trying to make the best movies. In 1979, “George Lucas set up the Computer Division to explore new uses of computers for digital imaging, electronic editing, and interactivity.” In 1985, “Industrial Light & Magic made further breakthroughs in computer graphics with the first completely computer-generated character with the "stained glass man" in Young Sherlock Holmes.”

Even in today’s world of computer generated movies, Lucas’s fingerprint is ever present. Movies such as Toy Story and Finding Nemo are have been created solely by computers at Pixar Studios. In 1986, George Lucas sold off the portion of the Computer Division that specializes in rendering software. This group went on to become the basis of Pixar Animation. “The release of Star Wars: Episode II "Attack of the Clones" marks the first major motion picture to be shot completely on digital HD video. Over 2200 visual effects shots completed at ILM feature digital environments, synthetic human characters and a computer graphics Yoda, still beloved by audiences worldwide.”

Forever, George Lucas will be renowned as a visionary. The influence made by Lucas and his companies has forever changed filmmaking.