What should the Paramount logo fade into??? [Archive]

00Kevin

03-24-2003, 04:47 PM

'allo

(trying to get a bob-quality indy 4 discussion going :D)

We all know how the paramount logo kinds of fades into something in all 3 indy films

raiders-mountain
ToD-picture on gong
LC-Rock formation

so what should it be this time around?

a picture on a vase (one of the old rumored indy 4 scripts)
a small rock?
a pile of........something?

any Ideas? What should it be?

(10 bucks say at least one person with come up with a joke befor page 1 is done)

westford

03-24-2003, 05:22 PM

I said it before (here (http://www.theraider.net/theraven/showthread.php?threadid=1623)), so I might as well say it again...

I want that volcano! :p

Gregoire Defence

03-24-2003, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by westford

I want that volcano!

I agree!

OR

An iceburg,
or a stalagmite/ stalagtite

swords

03-24-2003, 07:06 PM

Geez, I almost spilled my drink reading that last post! But, I see that Moore has some good points about the "events" happening, so go Michael I guess...

But regards to this thread, which is a good one. How about a sand dune?

00Kevin

03-25-2003, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Renderking Fisk
How about the logo fading into Micheal Moore stooped over to pick up something that fell off the floor from someone elses plate?

I knew there would be a joke

and good Ideas, sorry for repeating a thread :(

Aaron H

03-25-2003, 09:28 AM

A train/ship speeding towards the camera.

westford

03-25-2003, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by 00Kevin
and good Ideas, sorry for repeating a thread :(
It's not really a repeat Kev - the old one was posted when Paramount appeared to have given up the rights to Indy, but since they're now back on board we should get the logo incorporated into the opening sequence of Indy IV :)

Attila the Professor

03-25-2003, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by 00Kevin
'allo

(trying to get a bob-quality indy 4 discussion going :D)

Haha...good one Kev... :)

Anyway, there was a pretty good thread on this some time ago, I'll just put up the link to it, as there is no reason we can't discuss this again.

http://www.theraider.net/theraven/showthread.php?threadid=3126

Iceberg and stalagmite/stalagtite (we never reached a consensus as to which we perferred) were the most popular, but a pyramid had a following as well. However, as in the original thread on this subject, I agree with Greg in thinking that an iceberg or cave structure would be best.

00Kevin

03-26-2003, 07:10 AM

Marcus Petrius

03-26-2003, 11:55 AM

a haystack in the occupied european countryside, either in World War two in Holland, France or something, or in the Cold War in Poland or Czechoslavakia.

westford

03-26-2003, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Attila the Professor
Anyway, there was a pretty good thread on this some time ago, I'll just put up the link to it, as there is no reason we can't discuss this again.

http://www.theraider.net/theraven/showthread.php?threadid=3126

Iceberg and stalagmite/stalagtite (we never reached a consensus as to which we perferred) were the most popular, but a pyramid had a following as well. However, as in the original thread on this subject, I agree with Greg in thinking that an iceberg or cave structure would be best.
Cheers for that link Attila - I'd missed that thread completely, must have been sans computer that week or something! :eek:

It's not quite the right shape, but what about Indy's hat lying on a table or something?

swords

03-26-2003, 05:52 PM

The idea for the pyramid sounds good, but "The Mummy" already took that idea. Right in the beginning, where in fact the Universal logo fades to reveal a pyramid.

Odd, it would be like Indy ripping off the Mummy if it was used!

Finn

03-27-2003, 01:44 AM

What about the front of Indy's fedora lying on a table? (With right angle, it looks at least close.)
Then there comes a hand and picks it up... the hero is back.

Pale Horse

03-27-2003, 12:15 PM

What if the scene were to fade into a cemetary head stone (somehow), referencing Brody's death and then pursues from there....

00Kevin

03-27-2003, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by apalehorse
What if the scene were to fade into a cemetary head stone (somehow), referencing Brody's death and then pursues from there....

good Idea, but I'm not so found of brody's death, mabey someone else

(keep brody alive, he doesn't need to die,. just don't show him)

westford

04-01-2003, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Finn
What about the front of Indy's fedora lying on a table? (With right angle, it looks at least close.)
Then there comes a hand and picks it up... the hero is back.
*coughs*

I said that first Finn! :p Still, great minds think alike, eh? As do psychopaths... :D

Finn

04-02-2003, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by westford
Originally posted by Finn
What about the front of Indy's fedora lying on a table? (With right angle, it looks at least close.)
Then there comes a hand and picks it up... the hero is back.
*coughs*

I said that first Finn! :p Still, great minds think alike, eh? As do psychopaths... :D

True.
But where? I must have missed it. :D

westford

04-02-2003, 05:50 AM

It's on page one ;)

Originally posted by westford

Cheers for that link Attila - I'd missed that thread completely, must have been sans computer that week or something! :eek:

It's not quite the right shape, but what about Indy's hat lying on a table or something?

Baloney T!ts

04-20-2003, 05:57 AM

A first in the indy movies!!!

A fade in to a giant breast!!!

YEAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

00Kevin

04-20-2003, 06:42 AM

Shuttup

BAM

(shoots the newbie)

Attila the Professor

04-20-2003, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by 00Kevin
Shuttup

BAM

(shoots the newbie)

You know, generally I'm not in favor of turning away new members, but this time, I must agree.

Come on Baloney T!ts, that has no place here.

vaxer

04-20-2003, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by Baloney T!ts
A first in the indy movies!!!

A fade in to a giant breast!!!

YEAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

That might happen, but only in certain x-rated remakes of Indy movies. ;)

Aaron H

04-20-2003, 09:40 PM

Consider this post a warning Baloney.

ROTLA

04-20-2003, 11:08 PM

How about if it faded into a giant jewel/gem in the lost crown of a king? Or perhaps just one of the points on the crown?

Or maybe we get thrown for a loop. It fades into what looks like a giant mountain but, as the camera pulls back, we realize it is nothing more than an ant hill or something like that...

00Kevin

04-21-2003, 05:09 AM

good Ideas ROTLA

ROTLA

04-21-2003, 10:16 PM

Hey thanks, 00Kevin...you never know what kind of stuff will pop into your head when you're thought process is driven by lack of sleep!!

EvilNazi

05-03-2003, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by vaxer
Originally posted by Baloney T!ts
A first in the indy movies!!!

A fade in to a giant breast!!!

YEAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

That might happen, but only in certain x-rated remakes of Indy movies. ;)

sorry if this is OT but indy gives much material for x-rated remakes. you know, because of the whip

Barryson Ford

05-03-2003, 04:11 PM

i liked Vornoff's idea about a pyramid,you know archeology and pyramids are a good combination n'est pas ?

Gregoire Defence

05-03-2003, 07:04 PM

But pyramids are not Paramount shapped.

thegreatimposter

05-03-2003, 07:55 PM

I like the idea of fading into an anthill. Did anyone read the fan fiction Sons of Darkness script? I thought it was great! Anyway, he had it open to a hill, then a camel foot smashes down, the camera PULLS BACK TO REVEAL the desert, we were looking at a sand dune! Then goes on to illustrate the scene when a Bedouin boy discovers the dead sea scrolls. Good stuff!

NileQT87

05-15-2003, 05:57 PM

it should fade into...what else but paramount itself. its in salzburg, austria...you get to see it on the sound of music tour...the famous paramount mountain...its a dinky little puny part of the alps. pretty pitiful if i might say. its by no means a landmark other than a movie studio uses it as its logo.

Pale Horse

06-30-2003, 08:27 AM

Another thread got me thinkin' 'bout this.

What if the "mountain" was a bunch of crates coming into focus is a large warehouse. As the camera pans back, we find an old man wheeling a large crate with burned markings out of the stack and down a large asile toward the camera. The screen fades to black and we see the film's title

Indiana Jones and the Return of the Lost Ark.

00Kevin

06-30-2003, 08:31 AM

fraid I don't like that Idea

undoes everything we saw in Raiders

don't ruin raiders by cloneing it

and let's get an origonal artifact ;)

ROTLA

07-02-2003, 03:01 AM

Maybe the logo fades into a pic of a volcano. Indy is trying to recover an artifact from a tribe which is performing a ritual to summon the god of the volcano, trying to make it erupt. Maybe it's an attempt to stop Indy or maybe he sees their ritual as a distraction and uses it to retrieve an artifact. However, the result of the ritual is eventually a flow of lava which Indy must now avoid. Just a thought...

westford

07-02-2003, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by NileQT87-Solo_Baggins
it should fade into...what else but paramount itself. its in salzburg, austria...you get to see it on the sound of music tour...the famous paramount mountain...its a dinky little puny part of the alps. pretty pitiful if i might say. its by no means a landmark other than a movie studio uses it as its logo.

According to the Paramount website, "The Paramount logo was established in 1914 by W.W. Jodkinson, a former movie exhibitor from Utah who negotiated a deal with Adolph Zukor to distribute his "Famous Players in Famous Plays" motion pictures. On the way to a meeting in New York, Jodkinson passed a building complex bearing the name Paramount and doodled a star-crested mountain, possibly from memories of his childhood in the west, and that logo later became Paramount's trademark." Although, I'm sure I read somewhere it was based on the Matterhorn...

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:4ZedTRDJwRsC:www.about.ch/cantons/valais/matterhorn.jpg http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:kE_0T0SQ8Q8C:www.paramount.com/assets/leftnav/logo_main.jpg

[Edited by westford on 07-02-2003 at 06:12 am]

RangerOfTheEast

10-28-2003, 03:25 PM

westford

10-28-2003, 03:45 PM

Only if we get the red line going across a map afterwards - it's tradition!

Ska

10-29-2003, 06:09 AM

Great idea! *chills*

Ska

Joe Brody

10-29-2003, 06:32 AM

Wow. Too perfect. A lot of good [expletive deleted] [stuff] is getting advanced here, daily. I hope someone rushes Skywalker Ranch and has them take note.

Venture

10-31-2003, 08:24 AM

How about this: the logo fades into a mountain in a musty old painting. Indy, having heretofore retired from treasure hunting, has his class on a field trip to a museum. His dissatisfaction is obvious, maybe as he strolls past a display case containing the Cross of Coronado. We can tell he's wistfully wanting to break free from his professorial role and don the whip and fedora once again. When he gets back to the college, a couple of Hoover's G-men are waiting, and...you fill in the blank.

intergamer

10-31-2003, 02:58 PM

I like the anthill idea: because you'd think it was a mountain until the last second. Anything tricky like that would be cool. Or it could zoom into a small part of the paramount mountain which looks like a mountain itself, then zoom out into the whole thing. I don't know if you guys follow.

Attila the Professor

10-31-2003, 03:06 PM

Yes, perhaps something in Indy's office...or a label on box of imported beer, or cheap wine, perhaps...I'm still into the "how times have changed" idea, so something based on that I would like.

Indy, Jr.

11-02-2003, 08:21 PM

Hello. First time poster here!

How about fading into Indy's hat? Then you could pan away to reveal all of Indy, causing the crowd to cheer I'm sure, as he walks toward his first quest. (If any of that makes sense.

Joe Brody

11-03-2003, 07:00 AM

Walking into the theatre, Ford's age is going to be on the minds (of most?) of the audience. To dispel those questions/doubts, it would make sense for Indy IV to set a new land-speed record from fade to first punch/shot -- to dispel all those doubts and signal that we're in for a ride.

I hope the opening sequence punches the audience in the jaw, hard.

I like the musing Indy idea, but that seems a harder way to start and then transition to action.

Moedred

08-23-2006, 04:09 AM

The Paramount logo became animated CGI in the 90's, which used to zoom in on the mountain. This decade, we drop out of the sky with stars and a big reflective 'P.' Don't watch too many times or you'll get dizzy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juGUxQ8FCv4&NR

It still ends with the mountain. I would like to see it become the Matterhorn, then we follow allied planes dropping paratroopers in Italy at the end of WWII.

Or it could become a mountain of rejected screenplays near Skywalker Ranch.

Johnny Nys

08-23-2006, 04:31 AM

In the other movies it still remains essentially a mountain, so I like the volcano idea, but it'll probably be just a mountain somewhere on the world. This intro only delivers the setting of the pre-movie - the quest he's on before the actual adventure begins, so I don't think it'll be anything important to the story. It's more for atmosphere than anything else.

jtobin13

10-01-2007, 11:08 AM

cemetary head for brody sounds great!!!

Forbidden Eye

10-02-2007, 12:35 AM

Well, I don't have any cool ideas(most of them have been said) but...

Does anyone have even a slightest idea what logo they'll use? I want them to use the 80's one it can match the other 2 Indy films. Having it be the logo just doesn't seem right at this time.

:confused: :(

Kingsley

10-02-2007, 01:15 AM

I've just thought of a great idea. How about no fade to...?

Hang on, hear me out...

The logo appears, but instead of the fade to something else, the text just fades leaving the mountain and the surronding scene as it is. Slowly, the camera pulls back to reveal the moutain framed by.....a circular airplane window frame! Camera pulls back further to reveal we were inside a plane looking out the window at the Paramount mountain itself! As camera pulls back further, Dr Jones comes into frame on the left, sitting taking a peek out, a passanger on the old plane. The mountain begins to drift out of view. He smiles, and we do too.

STEWARDESS
Can I get you a drink?

.....

what do you think?

[Edited by RangerOfTheEast on 10-28-2003 at 03:28 pm]
Yes, this is the best idea... but austria will probably not be part of the trip this time.

I like the fedora idea too, a close up in a certain angle could match the Paramount logo... and it doesn't mean it will begin with a quiet scene. It can be that Indy is in the middle of a fight and loses his hat, the first thing we see is his hand taking the fedora from the ground, and putting it back in its place, with blood in his mouth and that classic smile, looking at his enemys...

Zorg

10-02-2007, 04:36 AM

I like the fedora idea too, a close up in a certain angle could match the Paramount logo... and it doesn't mean it will begin with a quiet scene. It can be that Indy is in the middle of a fight and loses his hat, the first thing we see is his hand taking the fedora from the ground, and putting it back in its place, with blood in his mouth and that classic smile, looking at his enemys...

That has some potential! :whip:

kongisking

10-02-2007, 08:22 AM

A first in the indy movies!!!

A fade in to a giant breast!!!

YEAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Oh, jeeze-lewis...even I don't go THAT far! :sick: :confused: That would not only offend fans and parents in the audience (think of how the kids woul react), but It is completely a slap-in-the-face to the wink-wink aspect of the movies and the delight of the visual gags. I'm not gonna call you a perv, Baloney (I'll leave that to ClintonHammond :p ), but that really is just unwanted.

Finn

10-02-2007, 09:10 AM

Oh, jeeze-lewis...even I don't go THAT far! :sick: :confused: That would not only offend fans and parents in the audience (think of how the kids woul react), but It is completely a slap-in-the-face to the wink-wink aspect of the movies and the delight of the visual gags. I'm not gonna call you a perv, Baloney (I'll leave that to ClintonHammond :p ), but that really is just unwanted. Since it gave nothing new to the discussion... Now, if you'd just tell me what was the point commenting a post four and half years old, and already chastised well enough back then?

kongisking

10-02-2007, 12:36 PM

Since it gave nothing new to the discussion... Now, if you'd just tell me what was the point commenting a post four and half years old, and already chastised well enough back then?

This was the first time I read this thread (I think), and I never read that comment before. Sorry Finn. :o

Finn

10-02-2007, 04:18 PM

This was the first time I read this thread (I think), and I never read that comment before. Sorry Finn. :o Just keep an eye on the posting times, okay? Besides, if you read the comments coming after it, I think you'd figured out it was a dead subject already. No need to say anything to those.

whipple

10-03-2007, 06:09 PM

The Godfather.

Indy_Chic

10-03-2007, 06:27 PM

I say let the camera fade into Indiana's finely toned abs (sorry, had to add that in :o ), then the camera pans back to show sweaty Indiana Jones running like crazy in a jungle or someplace with Russians etc running after him in a mad-like frenzy. That's all I've got so far...

Bjorn Heimdall

10-03-2007, 07:03 PM

I think the paramount logo should fade into a bulge on Indy's pants, then the camera pans to Indy's face which looks surprised, he then grabs a phone and dials frantically, there is a female voice on the other end and Indy yells: Marion! I'm back, baby!

In fact, I don't think there is a better way to introduce our man.:up:

Indy_Chic

10-03-2007, 09:57 PM

I still vote for Harrison Ford's abs! :up: *dodges rotten tomatoes*

MartyB

10-08-2007, 12:30 PM

Personally i think it will fade from a mountain somewhere into an American Desert. You will see a secret base (Area 51), and the film will start in the warehouse where the Ark is stored. I think you will then hear the humming from the Ark box, like the end of the first film, and the camera will zoom in on the burned box. The film then will cut to Indy somewhere else.

StwongBwidge

10-08-2007, 12:48 PM

They faded from the paramount logo to the "American Desert" in Last Crusade, so it won't be that.

I haven't a clue what they'll use, but there's a paramount logo thread somewhere already I think.

IndySeven

10-08-2007, 05:54 PM

An ancient Mayan Temple sounds good to me!:up:

No Ticket

10-08-2007, 05:59 PM

An ancient Mayan Temple sounds good to me!:up:

The opening adventures are never directly related to the adventure later in the story. So whatever it is probably wouldn't be a Mayan Temple. If we knew how the film opened we could take better stabs at it.

I think it would be kind of lame/weird if the opening adventure was at the college. lol. Paramount logo fades into another mountain in a text book or something. (oh I hope not)...