Best War movie [Archive]

Attila the Professor

04-17-2003, 05:39 AM

Again, more or less a poll. What are some of your favorite war movies.

-Fort Apache - technically a Western, I guess, but it's about the Indian wars - sort of a Custer film
-Spartacus - I was impressed, I didn't expect to like this
-Lawrence of Arabia - of course it's on my list
-Sergeant York - Gary Cooper gives a great performance as a delinquint turned pacifist turned the great American hero of WWI
-Bridge on the River Kwai - David Lean again, this time in a classic battle of wills and confused loyalties
-The Great Escape - another POW film, I can't not include this
-The Caine Mutiny - story of a crazed captain (Bogart) during WWII and his officers that take control of the ship from him
-Gunga Din - great film, can't help but love the final scene
-The Best Years of Our Lives - a post-WWII film about 3 servicemen returning to their former lives and loves, realizing that the best year of their lives were their military years

I know, I know, I listed much too many, but I'll narrow my list down later, I suppose. We might as well go for 5 or so picks per person, as we did in the Spielberg thread.

00Kevin

04-17-2003, 06:06 AM

my favs (no order):

-Lawrence of Arabia(the most talked about film in this table)
-Saving Private Ryan
-The Dirty Dozen (classic....I love it)
-the Patriot( was smashing)
-"Hart's war" was good too, but not as good as some (another POW)

also, my friends are OBSESSED WITH:

Braveheart

they WORSHIP IT, I have a friend, andrew, right next to me, telling me about braveheart (or at least how it's spelled)

westford

04-17-2003, 06:32 AM

I'd have to say The Great Escape - it's a British institution, on TV every Christmas... (The forthcoming game on PS2 looks pretty good too, but that's OT ;))

From what I remember of Bridge On The River Kwai, it's a good one. David Lean's certainly an important director of the 20th C.

What about Papillon? (Forgive the spelling, I know it's French for 'butterfly' but I can't speak French.) Been ages since I saw it, so I forget if it's a POW film or just a prison film, but it's got Steven McQueen in it too just to confuse me!

Saving Private Ryan was pretty good, esp the opening scenes showing the D-Day landings. I visited Normandy in 1994 (the 50th anniversary of D-Day), and saw some of the beaches and the cemetries of those killed, so to see it recreated so vividly on fim was incredible, in a good and a bad way.

Another recent one - Enemy at the Gates. That was another film that showed the harsh realities of war, such as the scenes with the boats crossing the river and being attacked by enemy planes, and deserters being shot by their own generals.

swords

04-17-2003, 06:50 AM

Raid on Rommel
Patton
Lawrence of Arabia
The Dirty Dozen
and Zulu

[Edited by swords on 04-21-2003 at 09:13 am]

Kill Cavalry

04-17-2003, 08:57 AM

oh man, there are far too many! I'll just pick my top ten favortie. Here they are in, in no particular order...

Andersonville (a little known Civil War POW flick, fantastic!)
Braveheart
Force Ten from Navarone (go Harrison Ford!)
The Dirty Dozen
The Great Escape (in the motorcycle scene with Steve McQueen he drove not only his character's motorcycle, but also dressed up as Nazis and chased himself!)
Spartacus
Saving Private Ryan (you really have to be in the mood for it, don't watch it if you want an uplifting flick)
Full Metal Jacket (ditto)
Glory
The Battle of the Bulge

If I had to pick a favorite I'd have to say Glory. Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Matthew Broderick, and others...how could you resist?

Quest

04-17-2003, 07:09 PM

ok not a movie but mini series but still:
Band of Brothers

Kill Cavalry

04-17-2003, 09:39 PM

I don't think BoB counts, because it is a miniseries and not a flick, that's why I didn't include it. But as a message to every person who sees this message, if you have not seen Band of Brothers, I truly pity you. Rent it, or better yet buy it. Ebert and Roper called it the "best miniseries ever" and they are not kidding.

00Kevin

04-18-2003, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by Kill Cavalry
I don't think BoB counts, because it is a miniseries and not a flick, that's why I didn't include it. But as a message to every person who sees this message, if you have not seen Band of Brothers, I truly pity you. Rent it, or better yet buy it. Ebert and Roper called it the "best miniseries ever" and they are not kidding.

My friend has it on DVD (he says it was $100!!!) and we agreed that someday I could either borrow it or he cold make a copy

and no, it doesn't count

Kumba

04-18-2003, 01:14 PM

Aren't you all forgeting the best WWII movie?! Kelly's Heros! haha, well may be not the best, but very entertaining. U-571 is ok too. Oh, and of course, The Guns of Navarone, my all-time favorite.

DrJones56

04-18-2003, 04:25 PM

Phew, this here's a toughy...

1 - Saving Private Ryan: Greates War Movie Period
2 - Patton: Gotta love that guy...
3 - Srgt. York: GREATES WWI movie.
4 - The Great Escape: Here's to the Fifty.
5 - Platoon: GUNNERY SARGENT FIRST CLASS RONALD LEE ERMEY!
6 - Midway: One word: Heston!
7 - Kelly's Heroes: Just a fun war movie, always fun to watch.
8 - The Dirty Dozon: Same as Kelly's Heroes, just fun.
9 - We Were Soilders: The SPR of Vietnam, it was a hard movie to watch, but it needed to be told, plus Barry Pepper was in it.
10 - The Patriot: Gibson gives a stunning performence...
11 - The Sand Pebbles: Dunno, just always liked it.

Broomhandle Davis

04-18-2003, 07:25 PM

Everyone's war is different and vantage point is a factor.

"Bridge on the River Kwai" is first rate and I'm glad someone mentioned "The Sand Pebbles" and the "Great Escape."

"Twelve O'Clock High" was used as a study in leadership styles in teaching courses for a while. "Run Silent, Run Deep" "The Caine Mutiny," and "Mr. Roberts" should be compulsory. "Lifeboat", too. Almost forgot "A Walk In the Sun."

I've enjoyed "Guns of Navarone," "Das Boot," "Zulu," and "Black Hawk Down." "The Frogmen" with Richard Widmark was good, too. Going back further "The Great Locomotive Chase" is well worth seeing.

Hey, if you like musicals, "South Pacific" is great. Might "The Man Who Would Be King" qualify as a war flick?

swords

04-18-2003, 08:17 PM

Grrrrrr

Im hitting myself. I can't believe I forget Zulu! I agree Broom, a great war movie. The action is not that good, but the suspence is unrelentless! It's tense, hearing the chanting in the mountains while the soldiers are waiting for the Zulus. Critics hated it because of the steroetype of the Zulus, I disagree. Great film, pushed the envolope, the same way the Wild Bunch did.

Im still hitting myself, how could I forget this movie?

The Sand Pebbles I watched quite a while back, it has something to do with a international inncident in China, right? I have a very vague memory of this, I remember theres a big sea, well, river battle at the end, and McQueen taking on a bunch of guys on rooftops.

I really have to revisit these movies...

DrJones56

04-18-2003, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Broomhandle Davis
Everyone's war is different and vantage point is a factor.

"Bridge on the River Kwai" is first rate and I'm glad someone mentioned "The Sand Pebbles" and the "Great Escape."

"Twelve O'Clock High" was used as a study in leadership styles in teaching courses for a while. "Run Silent, Run Deep" "The Caine Mutiny," and "Mr. Roberts" should be compulsory. "Lifeboat", too. Almost forgot "A Walk In the Sun."

I've enjoyed "Guns of Navarone," "Das Boot," "Zulu," and "Black Hawk Down." "The Frogmen" with Richard Widmark was good, too. Going back further "The Great Locomotive Chase" is well worth seeing.

Hey, if you like musicals, "South Pacific" is great. Might "The Man Who Would Be King" qualify as a war flick?
Oh, almost forgot about Mr. Roberts, that's an excellent war comedy, I loved it! Guns of Navarone should never be over looked, thanks for poing that out!

And I would consider South Pacific a war movie, lighter in theme, but still very fun.

swords

04-18-2003, 08:38 PM

Another movie sprang to my mind: Anyone ever heard of "Ice Station Zebra"? I guess it's your typical cold war film, but the underwater shots were glorious! Well, the external shots of the sub under the ice is what Im talking about. Anyone watch this movie, because I haven't recently. Watched it once late at night on tv and another time during the day.

DrJones56

04-18-2003, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by swords
Another movie sprang to my mind: Anyone ever heard of "Ice Station Zebra"? I guess it's your typical cold war film, but the underwater shots were glorious! Well, the external shots of the sub under the ice is what Im talking about. Anyone watch this movie, because I haven't recently. Watched it once late at night on tv and another time during the day.
Never seen it...

Almost forgot: Dr. Strangelove! How could we forget?! Excellent film, one of the most memerable scenes in film history.

Broomhandle Davis

04-19-2003, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by swords
Grrrrrr

The Sand Pebbles I watched quite a while back, it has something to do with a international inncident in China, right? I have a very vague memory of this, I remember theres a big sea, well, river battle at the end, and McQueen taking on a bunch of guys on rooftops.

I really have to revisit these movies...

The Sand Pebbles is about China in the 'Twenties during the warlord period when the Empress is in decline and there is a power vacuum. During the preceding century China has been divided up in a semi-colonial manner, not for rule but for trade purposes. The average Chinese had virtually no contact with either the foreigners or the Empress. USS San Pablos cruises the Yangtze protecting international trade and American nationals, a very minimalist role. The Koumintang, a nationalist movement is striking out against foreigners because they are symbols of China's subjugation.

Sadly any who befriend the Americans are liquidated. Frenchy's wife and Pohan are made an example of. Sand Pebbles becomes the focus of a political controversy, the Koumintang attempts to attack it as it attempts to evacuate American citizens (some of whom don't feel they aer American citizens and think they can remain as "citizens of the world.")

I think the action is Zulu is terrific. More interesting is it is very accurate historically.

Dr. Strangelove is garbage.

Jedi Daniel

04-19-2003, 11:52 AM

Bridge on the River Kwai and Saving Private Ryan

DrJones56

04-19-2003, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Broomhandle Davis
[QUOTE]Originally posted by swords
[b]GrrrrrrDr. Strangelove is garbage.
What's wrong with Dr. Strangelove? :(

swords

04-19-2003, 01:32 PM

Oh, I think you misquoted. Broom said it was garbage. I never watched it. Is it any good, because I can never get into Kubric's films. "Dr Strangelove, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb", thats a crazy title. Anyway, is it good?

DrJones56

04-19-2003, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by swords
Oh, I think you misquoted. Broom said it was garbage. I never watched it. Is it any good, because I can never get into Kubric's films. "Dr Strangelove, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb", thats a crazy title. Anyway, is it good?

I loved it, and take it from me, I HATE Kubric's films but I did in fact love Dr. Srangelove.

Indyz Azn Gurl

04-19-2003, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Kill Cavalry
If I had to pick a favorite I'd have to say Glory. Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Matthew Broderick, and others...how could you resist?

:D:D:D:D:D:D
Sooooooooo true!!! :D

The Patriot was soooooooooo tight too!! :D

swords

04-19-2003, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by DrJones56
Originally posted by swords
Oh, I think you misquoted. Broom said it was garbage. I never watched it. Is it any good, because I can never get into Kubric's films. "Dr Strangelove, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb", thats a crazy title. Anyway, is it good?

I loved it, and take it from me, I HATE Kubric's films but I did in fact love Dr. Srangelove.

Thanks, I'll give it a look.

westford

04-20-2003, 10:06 AM

Oh, forgot about Three Kings!!! One of Clooney's best films I'd say, and Wahlberg isn't bad in it either.

Haven't seen Dr Strangelove, but I've heard it's great.

swords

04-20-2003, 10:40 AM

Of course, Another good war film.

[Edited by swords on 04-21-2003 at 09:15 am]

hffan2000

04-20-2003, 02:16 PM

i would reccommend all those and windtalkers. i know it got some bad reviews but i just watched it last night and those reviews were wrong. it's a great film about a segment of world war 2 that is rarely talked about. it also is not for the faint of heart cause the battle scenes can get quite bloody. john woo has made an excellent war epic. :)

vaxer

04-20-2003, 02:23 PM

My favorite war movie is Apocalypse now. It shows war from an unusual point of view, plus it goes further than just beeing a war movie. I saw the Redux version; it's got very interesting scenes added to it but it's kinda too long.

[Edited by vaxer on 04-20-2003 at 03:27 pm]

westford

04-20-2003, 02:31 PM

What about Platoon? I haven't seen it, but my bro has the soundtrack which is really good...

EvilDevo

04-27-2003, 01:34 PM

anybody like the thin red line? it wasnt too bad... sort of a neat perspective on war

Kill Cavalry

04-28-2003, 04:07 PM

Well, I have to admit that my own mind rejects "different" films right off the bat. I usually warm up to them eventually. The Thin Red Line was really...interesting when I saw it (well, I only saw half of it, I just couldn't keep watching it), but it's been recommeneded to me by several people, so I might go see it again.

EvilNazi

05-04-2003, 06:58 PM

as for plot and directing: the best war movie in medieval times is BRAVE HEART. the way the battles are directed is gereat. i had never been a great mel gibson fan until i saw his perfomance as an actor and director in brave heart. and sophie marceau, oh la la.

as for WW II movies, although i didnt find the plot that good, Saving Private Ryan is for me the best one. It's the most realistic one, Steven Spielberg is a genius.

Broomhandle Davis

05-04-2003, 07:14 PM

Did anyone mention Das Boot?

swords

05-05-2003, 10:54 AM

Yeah, you did. ;)

Broomhandle Davis

05-05-2003, 12:43 PM

Did anyone mention Das Boot or did I say that already?

I did?

Did I say I saw "Raiders of the Lost Ark" when it first came out in theaters?

I did?

Dagnabbit.

Now, where are my false teeth?

swords

05-05-2003, 01:28 PM

Here you go oldtimer
*passes over the contents*

I was trying to be a smart allec, but you did in fact mention "Das Boot" on the first page, right over my post. Maybe I have old timers.

[Edited by swords on 05-07-2003 at 08:14 pm]

EvilDevo

05-07-2003, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Kill Cavalry
Well, I have to admit that my own mind rejects "different" films right off the bat. I usually warm up to them eventually. The Thin Red Line was really...interesting when I saw it (well, I only saw half of it, I just couldn't keep watching it), but it's been recommeneded to me by several people, so I might go see it again.

im not gonna lie to you, i fell asleep through the thin red line the first time i saw it, i found it too boring. but i was a lot younger then, and i saw it again a little while ago and found it to be actually kinda good. its no saving private ryan though

EvilNazi

05-07-2003, 06:02 PM

i hated thin red line.

i'm not demanding a lot of action, but still. that movie all it did was show flashbacks, a dead bird and the crying faces of soldiers. man, was that movie boring.

Trautman

05-07-2003, 07:49 PM

When the discussion comes to war movies only few mention "Where Eagles Dare", but that is without doubt the best war movie ever.

Other good war movies are "Kelly's Heroes", "The Longest Day", "Patton" and "Platoon".

EvilDevo

05-07-2003, 10:33 PM

havent seen the movie (where eagles dare), but the song is really good

Finn

05-08-2003, 03:02 AM

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0048752

EvilNazi

05-08-2003, 01:46 PM

what about "the eagle has landed".
i have read the movie and watched the movie. the plot is quite original.

Finn

05-08-2003, 09:44 PM

You mean read the <i>book</i>, right?

True, a good flick.

EvilNazi

05-09-2003, 09:16 AM

oooh, right
but i also read the movie cause i watched it with subtitles

EvilNazi

05-09-2003, 09:32 AM

Did anybody mention "The blue max"???

i dont know how i could forget about it.

it's one of my favourites. air dofight in WWI is one of my favourite subjects and "Blue Max" is the only good movie i have seen about it. Its with George Peppard, James Mason and Ursula Andress.

its quite a deep movie, about war, competition and focuses on the blue max, also known as Orden Pour Le Merite, the highest medal for airfighters.
despite being an old movie, its special effects are good and george peppard even learned how to fly a plane in order to do the easy scenes. stunts of course were made by pros.

there have others WWI movies about air dofight, but they all sucked. specially "Red Baron". i found the movie soooooo bad. Manfred von Richthofen is one of my idols, and seeing such a bad movie about him made me furious. and it's 80 % made up, not loyal to real events.
then there was one with julie andrews, which sucked too.

anyway, "blue Max" is a great movie, and the soundtrack by jerry goldsmith is great too.

[Edited by EvilNazi on 05-10-2003 at 03:03 pm]

Attila the Professor

09-03-2003, 08:17 PM

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Stopped Worrying and Loved the Bomb garbage?

Well, to each his own I suppose. But I truly believe it may be the funniest movie ever made. Funniest war movie anyhow. And comedy aside, it's rather profound as well.

Three cheers to Peter Sellers for all his characters.

"Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!"

:D

Kumba

09-22-2003, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by EvilNazi
what about "the eagle has landed".
i have read the movie and watched the movie. the plot is quite original.

I recently saw The Eagle Has Landed. It starts out slow, but builds up to the climax. Very good Saturday afternoon film, if you catch my drift.........

Broomhandle Davis

09-22-2003, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood
Broadsword to Danny Boy...Broadsword to Danny Boy

Where Eagle's Dare is the one to see on a rainy afternoon, better yet, during a snowstorm, with a blonde gal named "Olga" or "Ursula" at your elbow.

Kumba

09-23-2003, 05:29 AM

Yeah, haha, I've also seen Where Eagles Dare, and I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. oOo, what'd I'd give to go on a date with that German chick, awwwwww.......

British_Lion_2003

09-23-2003, 11:00 AM

ESCAPE TO VICTORY

EarlyBird

10-13-2003, 09:23 PM

My picks:

Sgt. York
In Harms Way
They Were Expendable
The Sands of Iwo Gima
Twelve O'Clock High
The Bridge Over the River Kwai
Braveheart
The Patriot

Ben Friend of Indy

10-14-2003, 07:46 AM

I'm gonna list the classics that I've seen and liked:

Lawrence of Arabia
The Great Escape
Twelve O' Clock High
Gunga Din

I can't believe no one has mentioned Stalag 17! That was a great movie!

Also, on the comedy side, do military flicks count? As in, they're not out at war, but they're in training camp and stuff? If so, "No Time For Sergeants" with Andy Griffith and "Buck Privates" with Abbott and Costello are absolutely hilarious! Too much great stuff to list! If you haven't seen these, though, watch for (in "NTFS") the toilet seat salute and (in "BP") the firearm drill scene.

Marcus Petrius

10-14-2003, 08:33 AM

Strange thing no one mentioned Empire of the Sun. Truly a great movie and one of Spielbergs masterpieces. I would've liked to see Club Obi Wan in it, though.

Marcus Petrius

10-14-2003, 02:19 PM

Last summer it was on tv here (in the Netherlands ) all the time. We have a certain channel that shows movies for a few months, so instead of renting the trilogy and watching that all day, when my parents went on a vacation, I watched Empire of the Sun 6 times and Working Girl 4 times. I did rent the trilogy after a few days though.

Kumba

10-14-2003, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by Renderking Fisk
I just saw Pearl Harbor again (We own it on both VHS WIDESCREEN and DVD WIDESCREEN) and I'm amazed at how choked up I get in some powerful scenes.

Flame away, cause I know there's a few of you here who thought it was a stupid movie.

You're a good man, Renderking. You like widescreen and you're a republican, just like me! lol (good thing Finn doesn't monitor this section, mwahahaha!). Anyway, yes, pearl harbor is a great film and i don't know why it got such bad reviews. I think the love story was fine the way it was...

[Edited by kumba on 10-16-2003 at 05:15 pm]

Joe Brody

10-22-2003, 09:16 PM

For me, the boundaries of the genre are pretty narrow. Despite how much I may love a given flic, I won't tag a drama as a war movie just because it unfolds in the midst of a war. Accordingly, I won't include favorites like 'Empire of the Sun' and 'The Deer Hunter'.

Elements/themes that I look for in War movies are: overcoming fear/cowardice, loyalty, unit cohesiveness (including all sorts of prejudice), and -- of course -- accomplishing the mission. A great war movie also tells something not just about the characters, but about the conflict. I don't like shallow glamorizations.

My three favorites are (all Army):
Platoon
Sahara
Black Hawk Down

The two David Lean epics -- 'Bridge over the River Kwai' and 'Lawrence of Arabia' -- meet the criteria above but merit special consideration. IMO 'Lawrence' is bigger than a war movie because T.E. Lawrence's accomplishments were larger than life. Kwai is a great movie but problematic in that I feel it tries to do too much (in posing moral dilemmas) and suffers dramatically as a result.

Kumba

10-24-2003, 01:14 PM

Yeah, those are good too. But if there are two war movies you'll ever see, it should be "The Guns of Navarone", and "Three Kings". Magnificent acting, and great stories.

RangerOfTheEast

10-30-2003, 04:47 PM

I'd have to say Das Boot, director's cut, or the band of brothers TV series.

Patrick

11-10-2003, 07:10 PM

Um... about 5 years ago I used to watch old black-and-white films on the history channel. I have a few, although I mostly confuse them with "Combat", a slightly "pro-war" television show in the '60s. I've seen more POW movies than war, but I think I can name a few...

The Bridge( I'm not sure if that is the real name of the film, but I call it that anyways. It is a story about a group of young Nazi soldiers who were stationed in a bridge,were american troops are soon to arrive at.)

Hamburger Hill

Bat 21

U-571

Um... I think that's all I can remember

Pootie Tang

11-18-2003, 10:47 AM

Full Metal Jacket #1

merancapeman

11-21-2003, 07:32 AM

Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers

IT counts, remember the plot.

Coming up that will be better: Return of the King

Broomhandle Davis

11-26-2003, 07:33 AM

How could I have forgotten it?

"The Wild Geese"

Mozart

12-07-2003, 01:36 PM

best war movie is saving private ryan.
and schindler's list comes second.

intergamer

08-15-2005, 11:40 PM

I just thought of this one movie, it's called "All Quiet on the Western Front". That's a pretty good war film that hasn't been brought up yet.

roundshort

08-16-2005, 11:40 AM

Gotta be Full Metal Jacket
the best movie about war ever.
Blackhawk down is up there, and then the Owen Wilson Movie a few years back was awesome also. War has changed and time for hte movies to change with it!

roundshort

08-16-2005, 05:59 PM

HAs anyone seen the raid? I ws told over the weekend that it was very, very good. If you want to see real war crimes, see what the Jap's did to the US boys on Batan

Jay R. Zay

08-16-2005, 06:21 PM

or have a look at some photographs from iraq by american soldiers torturing prisoners. :) yeah, war is a terrible thing. still waiting for a movie about this.

IndyBuff

08-16-2005, 08:36 PM

HAs anyone seen the raid? I ws told over the weekend that it was very, very good. If you want to see real war crimes, see what the Jap's did to the US boys on Batan

I'm planning on seeing it this weekend. I've heard excellent things about it.

Indy Parise

08-16-2005, 10:36 PM

Hey anyone mentioned 1941.

Aykroyd, Belushi, Candy, etc were all great in it. funny as hell

also Canadian Bacon. They're invading Canada?

roundshort

08-17-2005, 12:40 PM

J_Z< the SS boy dares open his mouth, well, please compare the stupid, trailer-trash antics of a couple of brain dead US soldiers to the Batan death march and Nazi crimes, please just try and compare the two I dare you,

Yes makeing a prisoner of war pull down his pants and lauh at his unit, and marching people into a chamber and gas them to death, or do experiments on preg. women, yes, that America we really go to far.

I am not making light of what the idiots did in Iraq, I find awful and wrong. those people have been sent to jail and punished, but J, even a peson as arrogent as you is not going to make a comparison to the war crimes of Jap, and Germans in WWII are even ont he same playing field. I am sure you have no idea what the Japense did to US Soliders, hell even their own people in WWII, so do a little homework.

But I forgot, you like to think what you brothers did in WWII to eveyong were not war crimes

Luisiana Jones

08-17-2005, 12:42 PM

I dunno speaking for the whole movie which one would be the best, but the best 30 minutes for me its the beggining of save private ryan ;) omg that was some scene :D

roundshort

08-17-2005, 12:52 PM

Jay R. Zay

08-17-2005, 03:06 PM

How about life is beautiful, that seems tro be about Nazi soldiers shoving woman and children into gas chambers. Get your shit straight. Those terrorists bastards sshould have their balls cut off with a butter knife and fed to them. I want more pictures, maybe we can do them what they have done to us.

:dead: . who the f.ing f. do you f. think you f. are?

Jay R. Zay

08-17-2005, 03:15 PM

Nuke em' all!!! :mad:

nuke your mother! :mad:

Jay R. Zay

08-17-2005, 03:27 PM

My God Jay. :)

wow, i'm happy to hear this. it took you some time to accept this, didn't it? :cool:

Red 5

08-17-2005, 09:09 PM

The best war movie - Star Wars :cool:

San Holo

08-18-2005, 12:16 AM

The best war movie, hands down, is Red Dawn. The Wolverines kicked so much Russian ass that there was some left over for Mexico too. :cool:

Cooler_King

08-18-2005, 02:35 AM

I quite like 'Master and Commander: the far side of the world', as I'm a naval nut :D

roundshort

08-18-2005, 10:50 AM

I like this one movie called all Quiet on the Western Front . . .
has that been mentioned?

roundshort

08-18-2005, 10:51 AM

Solo han, I just saw your post, dude Red Dawn was a favorite movie of mine in High School that is a great flick!

IndyBuff

08-18-2005, 10:53 AM

I quite like 'Master and Commander: the far side of the world', as I'm a naval nut :D

That was a good film. I forgot to mention it earlier.

San Holo

08-19-2005, 01:01 AM

Solo han, I just saw your post, dude Red Dawn was a favorite movie of mine in High School that is a great flick!
" AVENGE ME, BOYS.......AVENGE MEEEE"

San Holo

08-23-2005, 01:47 AM

Has anyone seen The Thin Red Line?

Jay R. Zay

08-23-2005, 03:18 AM

yes. and all quiet on the western front. ;)

IndyBuff

08-23-2005, 09:53 AM

Has anyone seen The Thin Red Line?

Yes, great movie. I also like Enemy At the Gates too. :whip:

Heliograph

08-24-2005, 05:15 AM

The Guns of Navaronne ruined my life. I have drawn combat pay in two conflicts since seeing it.

Particularly good is the sequence when Anthony Quinn appears to turn coward.

indifan101

08-24-2005, 08:09 AM

Post 1990...

Saving Private Ryan!!!

Glory is my favorite!

Heliograph

08-24-2005, 08:12 AM

http://www.strategyplanet.com/commandos/images/Guns%20Of%20Navarone.gif

Since limited time to edit is among the other "retentive" policies around here, I'm forced to do a second post to provide a graphic rather edit the graphic into my original post.

Control, control, we must control our posters! Who knows what posters might do if we didn't channel their efforts with our every last iota of energy.

Pale Horse

08-24-2005, 08:23 AM

Since limited time to edit is among the other "retentive" policies around here, I'm forced to do a second post to provide a graphic rather edit the graphic into my original post.

Control, control, we must control our posters! Who knows what posters might do if we didn't channel their efforts with our every last iota of energy.

if everyone had your self control, perhaps we would be able to extend the time available for editing.

Paden

08-24-2005, 10:36 AM

If I was going to pick a war movie that really stood out for me, I would be most tempted to choose Glory. There are so many aspects of that film that stand out: the struggle of the 54th to be viewed as a legitimate fighting unit, the clash of cultures, the courage of the men and their commander...a lot of outstanding material, well-acted and directed throughout. For me, it almost belongs amongst the "Most Inspirational" films being discussed elsewhere on these boards. A close second would be Saving Private Ryan. I had already been exposed to a great deal of WWII history, primarily through Stephen Ambrose's work, prior to seeing the movie, but the film really brought the conflict and the sacrifices of those involved to life, and increased my appreciation for our soldiers' service.

With regard to films that address the Vietnam Conflict, I've always thought well of Full Metal Jacket, even though it's a difficult movie for me to watch. My father, who served in Vietnam, indicated that Jacket captured the emotional "feel" of the war better than anything else he'd seen on film. I've also always had high regard for Hamburger Hill, which in my perception has never received the attention that it deserved. The performances in the movie are quite good, and it really presents a strong, visceral picture of a major infantry engagement in Vietnam. It's another one that isn't easy to sit through, but it will give you a greater respect for the courage of the soldiers involved.

indifan101

08-24-2005, 09:10 PM

The Bantu Wind

08-29-2005, 09:07 AM

Force 10 from Navarone.

That was a great war movie.

Heliograph

08-29-2005, 09:39 AM

The dramatic music in Hamburger Hill sucked...

"Where Eagles Dare" has the best soundtrack for a war movie.

Stoo

09-02-2005, 04:04 AM

"Force 10" was O.K. I saw it in the theatre. Harrison Ford and Barbara Bach.
One that I really enjoy watching again and again is "A Bridge Too Far".
(Saw that one in the theatre, too). Such a large production with many
interesting vignettes, plus I knew a man who fought at Nijmegen bridge
so I guess there's some personal connection there for me.

Watch that one and then follow it with "Bridge at Remagen". They go well
with each other, back-to-back, and not just for historical reasons.

IndyBuff

09-11-2005, 10:48 PM

I finally got a chance to see "The Great Raid" today and it's fantastic. Definitely see this movie if you get the chance because the movie is great and it's historically accurate too. It's one of the best war movies I've seen in a long time.

indifan101

09-13-2005, 06:57 PM

I think Schindler's List is the best war movie!

San Holo

09-14-2005, 01:09 AM

If you want war, then check out the animated movie, based on the book Animal Farm. I liked it alot when I was a kid. It is totally nucking futs.

Brown Fedora

10-12-2005, 03:23 PM

Saving Private Ryan was a fine movie, American Soliders have a soft spot for German soliders in history, they have never been effective against us. When the British hired them to fight in our first war, we well killed them. WWI was no excpetion, Hell, the US Marines were given the highest miltary honor byt he Franch for the way we got rid of the suckers. Then a few years later, we stomped on them again in Europe, Africa, hell you gotta love the people you can always beet on!. . .

"They have never been effective against us."

You've got to be kidding. Ever heard of the Lost Battalion? Huertgen? Kasserine Pass? What about the Germans in the Revwar who pretty much consistently kicked our butts?

Give me a break... our losses in WW1 alone were massive for an army that only served in the field about seven months, and they were all inflicted by Austro-Hungarian and German troops...

Yeesh.

-Fed-

roundshort

10-12-2005, 04:24 PM

Sure any Armies will win battles, but in war it is the winner that matters

indifan101

10-12-2005, 07:49 PM

Sure any Armies will win battles, but in war it is the winner that matters

Amen to that.

Brown Fedora

10-12-2005, 09:02 PM

Amen to that.

In the 1980s, General Ngo Nguyen Giap of the North Vietnamese Army met the American general Westmoreland. Westmoreland and Giap had a discussion about the war, and the two began a (polite) debate about their waging of the war.

General Westmoreland commented that Giap's troops had consistently been beaten in the field by American soldiers. There were few outright decisive victories by the PAVN, and even then, those had generally been reversed by counter-offensives. "So basically," said Westmoreland, "regardless of the verdict of history, we won every battle..."

"Yes, you did," said Giap, "And we still won the war."

Anyway,

I never said that Americans didn't win WW2 or beat the Germans in their wars against them. I was responding to the idea that the Germans were "totally ineffective" against the Americans, which also presupposes (probably unintentionally) that the US won WW2 for the Allies singlehandedly (which is blatantly false).

Of course, the Germans won most of the significant battles of WW1, but ultimately lost the war.

As for records of wars won and lost, the US and German records are very interesting. Germany (or rather, what would become a united Germany beginning in the 1850s)won four major declared wars (the Second Schleiswig-Holstein War, the Austro-Prussian War, the German Civil War, and the Franco-Prussian War. One could also make an argument for the war against Russia in WW1, since the Germans considered it a separate conflict).

The Germans have lost two major declared wars (the First and Second World Wars).

The U.S. has won four major declared wars (The Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, the First World War, and the Second World War), drawn two declared wars and a single undeclared war (the Barbary Coast War and the War of 1812, along with Korea), and lost (at least) two major undeclared wars (the Seminole War and Vietnam).

It would take a while to calculate "police actions" (ie: minor conflicts), but I would guess that the two are about even in that category, with a slight edge to Germany which generally decisively defeated its colonial opponents (ie: the Wahehe War).

Anyway, pretty interesting from an historical perspective.

-Fed-

indifan101

10-12-2005, 09:12 PM

Here's my favorite war movies...

Saving Private Ryan
We Were Soldiers
Full Metal Jacket
Glory
The Patriot
Paths to Glory
Bridge Over the River Kiwai
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Sands of Iwo Jima
To Hell and Back
Black Hawk Down
The Great Escape
Windtalkers
Enemy At the Gates
Thin Red Line
Downfall
Band of Brothers
Pearl Harbor
The Green Berets
Apocalypse Now
Platoon
Hambuger Hill
MASH
Run Silent Run Deep
U-571
Hunt for Red October
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

Downfall (incase you don't know) talks about the collapse of the Nazi Party and the death of Hitler. Very good movie!