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Tennessee Buck
04-22-2003, 07:28 AM
While working on my video project on Indiana Jones, a couple of things have bothered me from the series. Here are some nitpicky details (though please understand that I love the trilogy):

1.) How does Indy not realize that Dr. Schneider could have heard something in the bathroom while her room was being ransacked (I don't care how loud that music was in the turntable)? Maybe Schneider should have pretended she was unconscious.

2.) Why does Short Round warn Indy about his heart on the rope bridge before Mola Ram reaches for it? Shorty seems to have given Mola Ram the idea. What if Mola Ram wasn't interested in Indy's heart?

3.) Where was the British Army in TEMPLE OF DOOM? Why did they only arrive at the moment when Indy was just about finished off with Mola Ram?

4.) How does Indy manage to get the straps of the shoulder bag stuck in the cannon of the tank?

Of course, these are just movies (and not meant to be taken seriously) but the ideas are interesting to provoke some level of discussion.

westford
04-22-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Tennessee Buck
2.) Why does Short Round warn Indy about his heart on the rope bridge before Mola Ram reaches for it? Shorty seems to have given Mola Ram the idea. What if Mola Ram wasn't interested in Indy's heart?

Shorty saw the first guy's heart being ripped out in the temple - maybe he just guessed Mola Ram would do the same thing to Indy... Maybe Mola Ram's like my cat and gets a weird glint in his eyes when he's about to strike...

Attila the Professor
04-22-2003, 12:12 PM
1) The music was pretty loud, and I suppose they were quiet ransackers. ;)

2)I'm with westford on this one.

3)I'd say they got there rather quickly, considering the maharajah had to get to them, convince them to come with him, and then the act of getting to the bridge - the whole thing probably should have taken longer, if you feel like nitpicking.

4)The great mystery of the trilogy...

Tennessee Buck
04-22-2003, 06:05 PM
Good answers there.

Another mystery. Didn't Indy lose his shoulder bag at the end of TEMPLE OF DOOM where it is practically burned by the fiery Shankara Stones? Yet when he returns to the village, his shoulder bag is intact. Hmmmm.

Lon
04-22-2003, 07:21 PM
The strap in Last Crusade has always bugged me. Just one of those film flubs I guess.

00Kevin
04-23-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Lon
The strap in Last Crusade has always bugged me. Just one of those film flubs I guess.

don't worry, ILM will use CGI to make it 'right'

perhaps he doesn't has the bag anymore

or the cannon falls off

or.....................

or mabey they just have an amasingly fake CGI indy do an impossible flip off the wall or something....jackie chan style!

Ben Friend of Indy
04-24-2003, 02:11 PM
I have always noticed Short Round warning Indy and then Mola Ram going for him. I guess Westford's probably right though. That has bugged me for quite some time, though.

spohlso
04-24-2003, 02:44 PM
A lot of people don't like that shoulder strap in 'Last Crusade.' I've figured it out though and it IS physically possible. Assuming that as Indy fell off the tank, there was somehow enough slack for the barrel of the cannon to get in between Indy and the bag.
The chances of that happening as Indy fell are pretty slim, but not nearly as slim as a mine cart speeding off of one set of tracks just to land on another set of tracks 30 to 40 feet away and having all four wheels lining up perfectly.

Finn
04-25-2003, 01:22 AM
You know, the thing that has always bugged me is the fact that if I'd be doing things like that, I had been dead a long time from now!

But after all, it is a movie, so I guess I'll just have to live with it. :p

NileQT87
05-10-2003, 05:32 PM
also 6 kadam is 72 inches aka 6 feet. take back one kadam (for the hebrew god) and its 5 kadam. harrison ford is 6'1". yet a 5 foot stick is taller than him. he is not crouching. he is standing straight up. if the stick was correct, that means indy is only 4 feet tall. i dont think so. yet they make a big deal about belloqs staff being too long, yet indys is even longer.

Fedor
05-12-2003, 01:33 PM
Good points i have always wondered about the bag on the tank.

But as 4 the british better late than french.

Newteh
05-14-2003, 06:15 AM
Hmm, those points have never really bothered me, the tank one i find amusing and think its a good part of the scene and is more plausable than some other things.

The only thing that bugged me was in ToD.
When they escape from the doomed plane on a blow up raft, this part is somewhat believable as its not much of a drop and the stunt seems to have gone well too.
BUT, when they then proceed to fly off the egde of a cliff and manage to keep the raft balanced for it to land right in a river, well i think it must have been a very low cliff!

indyfan1202
06-10-2003, 01:00 PM
1.) How does Indy not realize that Dr. Schneider could have heard something in the bathroom while her room was being ransacked (I don't care how loud that music was in the turntable)? Maybe Schneider should have pretended she was unconscious.

Did you notice how disappionted Elsa Schneider was when she found out that Indy had the Grail Diary, which is what the Nazis were looking for? Elsa was a Nazi, so prehaps she ransacked both rooms looking for the Grail Diary, and later acting like she didn't know what had happened.

2.) Why does Short Round warn Indy about his heart on the rope bridge before Mola Ram reaches for it? Shorty seems to have given Mola Ram the idea. What if Mola Ram wasn't interested in Indy's heart?

Short Round saw Mola Ram taking the man's heart out, and he probably just thought that what Mola Ram wanted to do, kill Indy and get the stones.

3.) Where was the British Army in TEMPLE OF DOOM? Why did they only arrive at the moment when Indy was just about finished off with Mola Ram?

The little Maharajah, Zalim Singh, might have gone back to Pankot Palace and told Captain Blummbert and his Troops about it.

4.) How does Indy manage to get the straps of the shoulder bag stuck in the cannon of the tank

I'm sure that was a blooper.

British_Lion_2003
06-10-2003, 01:07 PM
1.) It is posible that Elsa didnt here it but she made it to obvios she was a nazi.

2.) maybe Short Round has a gift like a jedi where he can see things before they happen.

3.) Wasnt it the Indian army? it doesnt takle a split second to get together your troops and get to some cliff in the middle of nowhere.

4.) it would of been easy to catch the strap on it becasue there were peaces of it sticking out where indy had blown it up.

Indy Smith
06-10-2003, 03:29 PM
Indyfan1202 has a point. Maybe it was Elsa who ranacked Indy's room searching for the diary and then to not throw suspicion on to her she did the same to her room.

But I really only have this to say. it was a B-Movie. Thats whats great about these B-movies. Continuity errors make them fun to watch :D

westford
06-10-2003, 05:29 PM
It was Elsa who ransacked the rooms. That's why she was in her bathroom with the music up loud - her alibi. She'd been through his stuff first, then realised she'd have to do the same to her own or he'd suspect her. If she'd found the book, she'd have disappeared off with it.

wolfgang
06-10-2003, 06:53 PM
None of these bother me. Elsa was a nazi so she probably wouldn't care anyway. Shorty is a funny little dude and i love it when he does stupid things like that.I really don't care how fast the army moves ;). And I force myself to see the little thing getting indy stuck since he falls. play with your mind and all these things will be possible. I do it all the time and look how I turned out :D. like, I make myself believe ToD happened AFTER Raiders because its cooler to me that way.

grumpus
06-10-2003, 07:44 PM
we know that Elsa ransacked the rooms, Indy said so when he and Henry are tied to the chair.

"Ransacked her own room and I fell for it."

grumpus
06-10-2003, 07:51 PM
Those havent really bothered me as much as at the end when Indy whips Wille. Wouldn't that hurt her really bad. I actually hit my self in the leg with a whip, it didnt feel very good.

Pale Horse
06-11-2003, 12:05 AM
Come on now, I learned on a 12' whip, have pictures of my back to prove it. No visual scars. You can toss a whip out without it wounding anyone.

What I think is trivial is The Brotherhood of the Cruciform Sword. They are only "invented" to serve as a deterant in Venice. Ultimately if we accept them, then we have to accept that there are secret societies that know where GREAT archelogical treasures are, but just won't tell us....

Indy Smith
06-11-2003, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by grumpus
we know that Elsa ransacked the rooms, Indy said so when he and Henry are tied to the chair.

"Ransacked her own room and I fell for it."

So thats what he was saying all thoese times I've watched it. Never could figure out what it was he said. :D