RE: the crystal skull

[JasperMoon]

Has anyone else besides me ever seen the crystal skull that supposedly turned a bluish color before the assassination of President Kennedy? It's quite something to behold. I for one was awed. That could make for quite a different kind of Indy story altogether. A few more exist and no one knows from where they came! And if I can remember, there is rumored to be still others.

[Pale Horse]

I thought it has something to do with the "indians" in South America.

But as Kev would say, I'm drunk.

[JasperMoon]

Yep,. You're right. It's from South America.

[bob]

My critical-thinking-ometer is tingling

Hmmmmm

Maybe they put Kennedys brain in one of them, and that is why it turned blue.

Indiana Jones and they saved Kennedys Brain.... i can see it already

[Tom Jones]

A crystal skull would be a great artifact for Indy to quest after in the beginning of the next movie, would get him back in the jungles of South America too!

[JasperMoon]

"It's not unusual" to find Indiana Jones in peril in the Amazon forests! That would be the PERFECT beginning for the new movie if they decide to do what that one website said they were going to do!

[Venture]

I've read of the Skull, but was unaware of a connection to Kennedy.

[JasperMoon]

It's really one of those phenomema that if you don't go to or read the right news and magazine sources you don't know about it. I saw the skull up at Lily Dale, near Buffalo, NY several years ago. The lady who brought it was an archeologist and went to S.America to do research and did a lot of reporting on the phenomenon including some of the stories associated with it. Kennedy's was one of the stories.

[Pilot]

From what I've read about this particular skull, it was said to have been discovered by the daughter of explorer F.A. "Mike" Mitchell-Hedges in 1924 during an excavation of a Mayan city in what is now called Belize. There is credible evidence that Mitchell-Hedges actually bought the skull at an auction in 1943. If true, it doesn't mean that the skull isn't special. For example, how it was made and the length of time to form and polish it is interesting in itself. It is not the only crystal skull out there. There appears to be over a dozen skulls similar to the Mitchell-Hedges skull. One such skull is made of amethyst.

[JasperMoon]

And according to the legend, it's supposed to have very special powers. Thanks.

[Venture]

I'm no expert, but the original South American skull defied explanation. Hewlitt-Packard, then the leading experts on crystal oscillography, noted that it was formed contrary to known crystalline fracture points and there were no traces of tool marks. It was also shaped with an advanced (for the time) knowledge of light refraction through lens-type formations inside the skull, again with no evidence of manufacture.

[Fool of Atlantis]

Yeah that skull is cool, and as a matter of fact Indy all ready went after one in Indian Jones and the Phillosophers Stone.

[JasperMoon]

Is that an Indy book in the series, or are you reading Harry Potter? (in England it's called Harry Potter and the philosopher's stone)

Seriously. The crystal skull could make an awesome catalyst for an Indy movie. Because it wasn't known here until around the 1960's that could be an Indy V story. And we could see a new generation of Indiana Jones come to the fore with this one!

Could have a lazy Indiana Jones Jr. discover a few things with it that would get him into an awful lot of trouble!

[Fool of Atlantis]

I am DEFINATLY talking about Indy!!!!!!!!!

[JasperMoon]

Check this out. What a story this would make!!!!!

http://skepdic.com/crystalskull.html

[JasperMoon]

Why don't you join us in putting a pitch together for INdy V?

[Pale Horse]

I am very familiar with the "pitch" process. It is not as simple as many think,

BUT that doesn't mean persistance doesn't merit investigation.

I'm just saying, "It's not something to be taken lightly. No one knows its secrets; it's like, nothing you've ever gone after before!"

[JasperMoon]

Do you have an agent? Or do you know of someone who can get to these guys to pitch? I know it's not an easy process. I've been studying it and lookin gof r an agnecy to rerpresent me. I am a published writer.

[thefumegator]

It's too bad you can't find anything about Crystal Skulls without it being riddled with a bunch of metaphysical and mystical nonsense. :rolleyes: All I can find is that Crystal Skulls have strange powers, and manifest various auras when in close proximity to one another. Come on -- auras? Gimme a friggin' break. :rolleyes:

Wes

"You know me. I don't believe in a lot of superstitious hocus-pocus... We're talking about an artifact of incredible historic significance; You're talking about the boogeyman!"

[JasperMoon]

I actually saw it several years ago. It is a very find artifact whatever the legends. And it can verily be stated without a doubt it is one of the modern wonders of the world.

[thefumegator]

That's too cool, man. You're talking about the privately owned one, right? (I forget the name of the lady that owns it and claims to have found it.)

I sure would like to see it. I have no doubt that if it really is a genuine artifact (there is some question), it should be a wonder of the world.

Hence my quote, I think it's a fascinating thing, but trying to sift through all of the crap about "the mystical energies contained within crystal" and "trying to communicate with the skull," ad infinitum, is nauseating. I just want to know the facts behind the thing.

Of course, if you look into the story of that particular skull's "discovery," it doesn't hold up to any criticism. The owner maintains that she found it in British Honduras (Belize), but the facts point elsewhere. Regardless, I WANT TO KNOW THE FACTS!

An identical artifact was used in the Max McCoy novels, but it was such an excellent story, that I think they should use something like it for Indy 4.

Cheers,
Wes

[JasperMoon]

The lady who owns it I believe now has it in Canada, Toronto? There was a huge lecture, pictures, etc. I remember pictures of the natives, the areas where she found it, the place. It was fascinzting, yes. And there was really no hocus pocus in the lecture. although the place I saw it was Lily Dale. If you are familiar with Lily Dale it is a spiriatual haven for psychics. AND THIS WAS THE SKULL YOU SPEAK OF.

[thefumegator]

That sounds great. Yes, that's the skull I was referring to in Toronto.

No hocus pocus in the lecture, even in a haven for "psychics"? That's amazing! They usually take ever opportunity to preach and blab about their energies and auras and such.

Did you get to take any pictures of it? What it like so much about that particular skull, as opposed to other crystal skulls, is that it is completely realistic looking. Others are usually stylized or cartoonish looking.

If I happen to find anything of substance about it, I'll post it here so that you fellows won't have to sift through the crud. ;) We could be the "crystal skull support group." :D

Wes

[JasperMoon]

I think I foudna site for you. http://www.thecrystalskull.com. There's a book out on the skulls. See if you can surf the net for it.

[Moedred]

If I happen to find anything of substance about it, I'll post it here
No luck yet, huh?
do you know of someone who can get to these guys to pitch?
Keep trying, there's still time!

[Kingsley]

Do you know of someone who can get to these guys to pitch? I've been studying it and lookin for an agnecy to rerpresent me. I am a published writer.
Maybe JasperMoon got succesfully to "those guys" to pitch...

[otto rahn]

If you want to read the F A Mitchell-Hedges "take" on the finding of the skull (as well as his other adventures) check out his book "Danger My Ally" ("self published " ?by a company called Mitchell-Hedges and Honey in 1995)

[HistoryAddict]

He wasn't much into the magical properties of items, so I decided to post some of the scientific properties of crystal so the magical properties might be explained:

The reason the crystal skull attracted so much attention when it was analyzed, was because they found some pretty amazing results. Researchers found that the skull had been carved against the natural axis of the crystal. Even modern crystal sculptors follow the axis, or orientation of the crystal's molecular symmetry, because if they carve "against the grain," the piece shatters, even with the use of lasers and other modern cutting methods.
Quartz crystal also has an electric charge that supposedly draws gold atoms to it, creating a bluish color. That could explain a blue “glow”…
Quartz is also strongly piezoelectric (so it is used as a radio oscillator to control transmission and reception on fixed frequencies. This same property is used in watches and clocks where a tiny quartz plate is used to control the radio frequency of the electronic circuitry for more precise time-telling).
I'm not saying I'm not open-minded enough to consider other-worldy properties of items, I just though I'd present what I found out.
Just food for thought…

[Joe Brody]

I guess it's like Spielberg said: there's not a lot of meat left on the bones of the genre.

[Insomniac]

what color is the skull in the movie I got a picture where its blue and one where its clear and one black
But good point about kennedy sound pretty bizzare 2 me 2.