Raiders error

[B-man]

Raiders has been around for about 22 years but I'm still not sure if I'm the only one who's noticed this. In the opening sequence of Raiders of the Lost Ark, the guy who flies Indy's plane - Jock - Wears a baseball cap! Were those even around in 1936?

[LASTCRUSADER]

I think baseball caps were around in that period. If you haven't already noticed Short Round also wears a baseball cap in Temple of Doom. Welcome to the Raven B-Man.

[HovitosKing]

Of course baseball hats were around then. Baseball has been around in the States since the mid-late 1800's, and caps were almost always a part of the uniform. I found the following report by Ross Atkin at
http://search.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/09/21/p23s2.htm :

"William Arlt is an expert on the subject and president of the Cooperstown Ball Cap Co. He says the first baseball team, the Knickerbockers, wore straw hats! From the 1840s to the 1870s, players wore all sorts of hats - boating caps, jockey caps, even bicycling hats.

In the 1870s, a pillbox-style hat with a flat top and a short visor became popular. This was the "Chicago style" cap. It often had horizontal stripes around it that made it look a little like a layer cake.

In 1860, the Brooklyn Excelsiors wore a cap that's a forerunner of today's rounded-crown, large-visor caps. This "Brooklyn style" had evolved from a "Boston style," and it caught on about 1900. It had a tight crown and a button on top, placed toward the front.

The modern cap arrived in the 1940s, when latex rubber replaced buckram (coarse cotton) as the stiffening material inside the visor. Now the visors could be longer.

Mr. Arlt says the old style cap has an appeal beyond nostalgia. 'The tip of the visor," he says of modern caps, "at some point becomes annoying and it's nice to have a small brim.'"

[VP]

I wondered that once too, before I joined The Raven.

[monkey]

Interesting.

I haven't seen Raiders in a while. I DO remember Jock wearing the ball cap, but I don't remember what team logo was on it.

What is the team logo on it?

Is it correct for 1936????

[VP]

I think it was a New York Yankees cap.

[Indy_(heheheh)]

did anyone notice the scene where indy finds the doorway to the well of souls
plays twice?

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sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and fedoras excite me

[IndyGirl821]

Everyone always talks about the scene when Indy finds the well of souls and how it plays twice. I own th edvds, and i don't remember that. Can someone explain it?

[indydude]

yea can someone explain that to me too?

[Henry Jones Junior]

Yes it was my team the NEW YORK YANKEEs!! Short Round where a Yankees cap as well. I guess it is better than a Boston Red Sox cap or a Cubs hat.

[B-man]

Thanks for the replies everyone.

It seems like I've asked a very silly question upon reading your posts, but I'll excuse myself due to the fact that I'm new. Another excuse I can use is that Baseball is a little too american for an english person like me to know too much about, even though we do have various versions of it.

I'm still not sure about Jock's clothes though, are those right for the time peroid as well?

P.S Upon watching the raiders DVD I noticed a line said differently - "I'll tell you everything". I read somewhere that some lines were rerecorded for the DVD. Was this one of them? It sounds different than the one in the trailor.

[monkey]

So Henry Jones Junior, you're really George Steinbrenner?

Careful with your comments about the Sox and the Cubs.

Indiana Jones was no doubt a Chicago Cubs fan.

[Henry Jones Junior]

Monkey. I am not Steibrenner and I actually do favor the Red Sox over anyone but the Yanks. I hope that the Sox gets A-Rod. Has that deal happened yet??? And as for Indy being a Cubs fan, why not a White Sox fan?? Yeah the last time they won a World Series was when Indy was in college..

[monkey]

No problem HJJ :)

But I Do think that Indiana Jones would have been a Cubs fan. He always fights for the underdog doesn't he?

Besides the White Sox had that 'Black Sox' scandal in 1919 where they intentionally threw the World Series.

Indy wouldn't root for those guys.

[Indy_(heheheh)]

its only on the first edition vhs
you know, where there is a drawing of indy in the temple. it would have been deleted for the dvd because they would have noticed their boo boo.
btw.
indy woulda been a cubs fan.

[Attila the Professor]

I bet Indy would have been a Yankees fan, because of Lou Gehrig.

[#1 indy fan]

i dont know about baseball, but i know im a fan of indy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[B-man]

I'd laugh if after all this discussion we found out that Indy didn't even like Baseball!

[monkey]

Of course Indy liked baseball.

He liked football too. He was a third string half-back for U of C.

[Webley]

Originally posted by Henry Jones Junior
Short Round where a Yankees cap as well.

Short Rounds hat is a 1929 New York Giants cap.