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Junior Jones
06-07-2004, 09:39 PM
So does anybody have any news or rumors about a DVD release for the Young Indy movies? Just wondering.
Indy Smith
06-08-2004, 12:01 PM
There was some kind of rumour, but nothing I can come up with off the top of my hat I'm afraid.
Indy_Jones88
06-08-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Indy Smith
There was some kind of rumour, but nothing I can come up with off the top of my hat I'm afraid.
You should have made it "Top of my Fedora". lol. I have heard rumors of Christmas but DON'T quote me PLZ. This is only a rumor and i dont want somebody getting mad cause i was wrong. lol
Webley
06-08-2004, 05:58 PM
Damn its good to be back at the Raven.
Young Indy on DVD Im anticipating it more than I did the release of the trilogy.
Strider
06-08-2004, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Webley
Damn its good to be back at the Raven.
Your damn right Webley!
Morsoth
06-09-2004, 02:16 AM
Oh yeah, I hope get this before 2005...
I miss a lot of episode, and Only have Peacoc Eye on VHS... This series must have a DVD release, not only because it's Indiana Jones, but the stories are great and you can learn many things about history!
Junior Jones
06-09-2004, 08:31 AM
And its a good chance for Lucasfilm to make up for the "Complete Adventures of Indiana Jones" debacle.
They edited everything together, re-numbered everything (including the trilogy) and then never released them all. Complete Adventures?!
That still annoys me every time I look at my collection.
Whipper
06-09-2004, 04:41 PM
Yes, I want the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles... Complete, as aired on ABC all those years ago, and NOT the chopped-up mess they turned it into on home video.
Morsoth
06-09-2004, 09:55 PM
Yep, I hope they'll re-insert the Old Indy capsules.
It's wasn't very good, but I dont like when they cut footages... at leat, they can add it in a section on the DVD.
Whipper
06-13-2004, 10:46 PM
The Old Indy bookends and Especially his Narrations are too valuable for setting the stage for each episode and summing it all up. They shouldn't be lost. I also liked that he gave further insights into Young Indy's thoughts and emotional development as time went by.
(It was weird at times on ABC because the episodes jumped around in time, but if you kept track of the given dates [Episodes were titled by year, month and location] and then watched them in order, it all made sense later and you could see the steady progression. I remember it was like Months before we knew what had happened to Remy, for example...but when the gap was finally filled, it was logical. And, in the meantime, Old Indy kept it straight for the audience, he let you know what you needed to know to immdediately jump into an episode if you'd missed a bunch...he helped make a lot of episodes work as standalones.)
And I came to see the bookends as charming and good comic relief to provide contrast in some of the really heavy episodes.
They hacked it out and tried to create new bridging material, but That stuff was truly Awful. Grainy film, Sean Flannery's hair all wrong, it just didn't Fit in there and it was painfully obvious.
The single-hour episodes should remain in episodic format and only the two-parters Created to be viewed as a single story should be presented that way.
Young Indy and the Scandal Of 1920 hasn't come out, has it? I wanna see that one out, but Intact. I don't believe they Could excise Old Indy out of that film, he's too integral to it, it would lose too much. The lady in the cab, the critic in the theater, all good stuff that shouldn't be lost if you wanted to put that movie out.
I also didn't like some of the new overdubbing they did. I much preferred the voices of the original actors in the Congo episodes over the new ones they used for home video release.
The originals had more urgency, they made the scenes more Intense. The guy playing Major Bouchet was great in that scene where he's faced with mutiny and is ranting how he'll shoot every last man. The new voice just wasn't into the moment, to my ears. The original was dramatic, the new guy's take was Flat... Running lines instead of Acting.
I remember some strange edits in places, too. Some different sequencing and alternated shots used that made me wonder, What was the POINT of that? They just took away a Good shot for a Nothing shot.
I miss the opening title sequence of the 'Chronicles, too, that was a Very nice piece of work. (A DVD set also ought to include the ABC trailers from before the series debut. They were cool and got me All pumped up about the series.)
Anyway, lest I get off on a rant myself... Let's just have The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, please. Pleeasse?
Johan
06-28-2004, 06:06 PM
what do you think Young Indy would retail at? I would be willing to pay whatever, but you would think that they would be modestley priced as they are not big screen productions, and it would be a huge set.
My guess would be between 80-100 bucks.
I want to buy them on dvd as well..... I'll have to add it to my list, along with all the seasons of X Files and Stargate SG-1.
Johan
07-20-2004, 05:50 PM
Whatever the price I would buy them... I still need to get MacGyver and Quantum Leap on DVD
when is MacGyver coming to DVD?
I believe the wait time on the Young Indy DVDs is because Lucas and co. want to produce a number of documentaries to go on each DVD as an extra. It will be a great learning tool for schools in that respect - watch the episode, then watch the doco about the real history behind the story.
Johan
08-03-2004, 10:01 PM
i hope your right...it would be a good idea
Right? Right?!? Of course I'm right! ;)
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=1197
Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, The - Extensive Documentaries Are Being Produced
Posted by David Lambert
3/04/2004
TVShowsOnDVD has kept up with The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles and its journey to DVD since October 2002, and we have a new update for you on what is turning out to be a long road indeed.
Our newest update comes to us via the Akron Beacon Journal, whose article last Sunday - "Lucas series inches to DVD", by R.D. Heldenfels - notes that a celebrated staffer at their local University is taking part in the creation of the DVD release, and was brought out to the Skywalker Ranch to do just that.
You see, in the Video Business article we first linked to in our original Young Indy Jones news, it was explained about the plans to turn the release into an educational affair, along with all the entertainment of course, by providing extras for every episode that ties it into the history which was woven into the fictional "Indy" story. According to LucasFilm honcho Rick McCallum, "what we're going to try to do is produce historical documentaries about each of the historical characters." Now we have the details of Dave Baker's adventure in consulting on one of these documentaries:
...it was good to hear that University of Akron archivist Dave Baker was involved in a DVD release of the Chronicles.
Director of the university's Archives of the History of American Psychology, Baker said he was contacted awhile back by Lucas' people looking for material for a documentary on psychology.
Baker talked with them about the differences between psychology and psychiatry. ("Psychologists are concerned with the human condition in the broad sense," he said. "Psychiatrists are physicians first, concerned with the treatment of mental illness.") He also talked about the development of psychology between the world wars.
"The thing I appreciated was that I was able to have some input," he said. "I'm a very passionate historian of psychology."
And apparently an impressive one. Baker was flown out to Lucas' Skywalker Ranch facility for an interview to be included in the documentary. Which turned out to be a companion piece for the DVD release of a Chronicles episode featuring Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung.
Baker did not really know the series. "I had seen it once and it was a long time ago," he said.
Nor was he sure when the DVD will come out. Baker guessed it will be tied to the release of the fourth big-screen Indiana Jones, which had been expected in 2005 until reports of Lucas' dissatisfaction with the original script.
"I didn't see that they had a hard and fast marketing plan," Baker said. "It's a very ambitious project. It looks like they're doing something like 50 or 100 of these documentaries."
A nice update there! We encourage you to read the entire article at the link above, and find out more about Baker's visit (and about the series itself, if you happen to be unfamiliar with it). And we offer our thanks to R.D. Heldenfels and the Beacon Journal for their well-written article.
We didn't stumble across this article ourselves, though, and we like to give credit where it is due. So we have to offer our sincere thanks to "CraigL", who posted about this article at 6:39 AM (Eastern) yesterday at The Home Theater Forum. Craig's been a member there for just over 4 years, and knows that all us DVD news-hounds hang out there looking for leads. So it's only fair that he get proper credit for his find. THANKS!
Johan
08-05-2004, 07:01 PM
you do your homework!
Johan
08-07-2004, 08:52 AM
and I hope you are right
Getting the YIJC on DVD has been one of my biggest fantasies for aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages.
Johan
08-08-2004, 01:37 PM
I think you should get out more...kidding. It would be really cool, I've been looking forward to it.
Sayyid
08-11-2004, 12:40 PM
I hope they make the YIJC DVDs soon. I loved the series, and I want to have the episode in which appears Harrison Ford.
Johan
08-11-2004, 10:34 PM
I've seen that one...it is Mystery Of THe Blues I think it was called...its just a short cameo with harrison
Sayyid
08-12-2004, 06:42 AM
Yeah, but it's great, isn't it?
I found this on theraider.net
"Lucasfilm's Jim Ward said in October 2003 that there's no street date yet, but late 2004 is certainly possible."
I have not seen anyone with a real date yet.
Aaron H
08-15-2004, 04:26 PM
Rumblings from the Ranch are showing either a Nov/Dec release or a April/May release of the DVD's. Right now it is up in the air as to if they will all be released in a set, several sets, or individually..or a pair of shows on one DVD.
Johan
08-16-2004, 08:37 PM
It would be smart marketing to do it either before Christmas or 6-8 months before Indy 4
Moedred
05-02-2005, 08:46 PM
Lucas said in his Wired interview, "I have a little documentary unit now that's doing stuff for The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles." Yeah, still at it.
The only way to make everybody happy is to split them into 22 or 44 DVDs and sell them cheap to elementary schools, as a community service. Then, sell them to Indy and tv fans as a couple of season collections, 6-discs each. Not enough fans are wild enough about YIJC to spend over $100, or devote an embarrassing amount of shelf space. Lucas should cater to the completionists.
There was an article in today's paper about Lucas and it mentioned
a title for the DVD release, "The Young Lives of Indiana Jones".
Webley
06-18-2005, 02:47 PM
So do any of yo know if this is still going to happen :confused: Will we get them on DVD some day :confused:
Aaron H
06-19-2005, 12:17 AM
Patience is a virtue.
INDYfatigable
06-28-2005, 09:53 AM
a virtue yes, but also a deadly bore...
OhioJones
07-03-2005, 11:45 PM
I have never seen a Young Indiana Jones film, so of course I would love a DVD set, that way I could get it easier.
It sounds like its pretty good considering you people all want it on DVD.
Is it as good as the films?
Junior Jones
07-05-2005, 09:36 AM
Is it as good as the films?
It depends on your criteria.
I love the Young Indy series, but it's different from the movies. Here are a few things to remember:
1) They were made for TV. The production values are still great, but they did have to cut some corners.
2) Indy's isn't the world's greatest adventurer...yet. He's a kid/teen developing into the character we know from the movies. Cut him some slack.
3) Each episode was directed by someone different. There's also a wide range of genre: war, romance, adventure, comedy, etc. If you see one episode and don't like it, watch another. Don't write off the whole series because of one episode.
4) It was created to be educational. I don't think that's a bad thing, but some people do. If you know that ahead of time, you won't be surprised.
OhioJones
07-05-2005, 10:55 AM
Sounds wonderful, thanks for the information.
I think I will go see if I can rent any of the videos.
Any recomendations?
Junior Jones
07-05-2005, 02:44 PM
My favorites are (in no particular order):
Phantom Train of Doom
Mystery of the Blues
Daredevils of the Desert
Tales of Innocence (especially the first half)
If you can find any of the videos, let us know what you think. (The Young Indy board could use a little action.)
OhioJones
07-05-2005, 03:25 PM
Thanks a lot.
By the way, I heard ford plays Jones for a brief bit in one of these. What one is that and was it any good?
Ill be off to Blockbuster soon!
Junior Jones
07-06-2005, 07:56 AM
Harrison Ford was in the bookends to Mystery of the Blues. It was a short cameo, and he really didn't do anything impressive except drive a truck into a snowbank. But it was great to see him in the hat again.
Oh, and the ending of the movie is great, but the ending of the bookend is not. Old Indy (HF) blows his saxophone, causing a mini-avalanche to fall off the roof burying all the bad guys, leaving only one man's arm sticking straight up out of the snow still holding the artifact for Indy to just walk up and take. That's just lame.
OhioJones
07-06-2005, 12:19 PM
Well Blockbuster didnt have any, looks like im going to have to order them or something.
Well Blockbuster didnt have any, looks like im going to have to order them or something.
Each episode is great in its own way but if you're looking
for something close to the movies, you should try buying
"Treasure of the Peacock's Eye - 1919".
Besides the ones Junior Jones listed, here are some more
recommended (VHS) titles:
Spring Break Adventure (2nd half - Mexico)
Trenches of Hell (1st half - Somme)
Oganga, The Giver and Taker of Life (1st half - German E.Africa)
Attack of the Hawkmen
Masks of Evil (2nd half - Istanbul)
OhioJones, hope you find some episodes and enjoy them!
"The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" was a great TV series.
OhioJones
07-07-2005, 10:50 AM
I ordered
Young Indiana Jones and the Mystery of the Blues
and the Phantom Train of Doom
OhioJones
07-07-2005, 09:47 PM
I have a question, Does the Raiders march play in the series?
Junior Jones
07-08-2005, 07:50 AM
No, the Young Indy Chronicles had all new music by Laurence Rosenthal and Joel McNeely. It's really good stuff (I have all four soundtracks and listen to them a lot), but its not John Williams' Raiders March.
OhioJones
07-12-2005, 12:03 PM
Thanks again for you help, I am anxiously awaiting my videos.
They should come soon and when I see them I will tell you what I think.
I agree with Junior Jones, the music is fantastic. It does not disappoint but
"The March" is actually used *once* throughout the entire series. It comes
very briefly at the end of "Mystery of the Blues".
It would be nice if the original opening credits were included on the DVDs
however the exclusion wouldn't surprise me. The theme is great!
Paden
07-21-2005, 03:28 PM
I just ran across this article (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3724) on TV Shows on DVD.com. Not exactly the best news for those who were hoping that Young Indiana Jones would be out on DVD soon, as it sounds like the release is going to coincide with the release of Indy IV. On the other hand, it sounds as though a great deal of work is being put into the set, including several historical documentaries that correspond with the various episodes.
IndyBuff
07-21-2005, 09:11 PM
The set sounds like it's going to be worth the wait, especially for all the extras. I'm looking forward to it, mostly because I didn't get a chance to catch any of the episodes when they aired. I've wanted to see them for years and soon I hope I'll have my chance! :)
QueZTone
07-22-2005, 12:33 PM
oh yes :) i wonder though how they'll be released..
- in one pack big box? that must scare off any non-indy fans cause that would get quite pricey..
- each episode seperately? that's always a bit lame, no collection feeling to it
- in seperate volumes? okay that could work i guess
of course as indy fan you want 1 big box with all of 'em :whip:
Maybe a huge box like with Monty Python's Flying Circus. That box had 14 DVD's.
Moedred
07-23-2005, 12:22 PM
44 YIJC broadcast hours = 11 single-layer DVD's.
Junior Jones
07-25-2005, 08:25 AM
Looks like I'd better start saving my nickels.
IndyBuff
07-25-2005, 09:41 PM
I have a feeling this set will be somewhat expensive not matter how you slice it. Still, I'm looking forward to it. :whip:
Moedred
09-14-2006, 11:42 PM
Have you noticed the slimmer DVD box set packaging? Now the keep case slim-paks have holding teeth on both sides, that mesh together. Half the YIJC (a season's worth) could fit on 11 discs in 6 paks in a box smaller than the trilogy box.
So what's the status? In 3 years we'll be asking for the show on HD-DVD, why not hit us up now?
Moedred
07-10-2007, 02:46 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=21837
TVShowsonDVD.com reports that Paramount Home Entertainment will release "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles - Volume 1" on DVD October 23. There will be a total of three volumes. The 1992-1993 series, executive produced by George Lucas, starred Sean Patrick Flanery as Indiana Jones and George Hall as Dr. Henry 'Indiana' Jones, Jr.
Vendetta08
07-10-2007, 07:15 PM
I never got to see the show, so this is definitely good news for me:D
MissDefense
07-12-2007, 05:26 AM
Great finally dvd's!I've been saving my vhs for ages but they definitely taking too much space and time passing has ruined them a bit. I just wonder if it's going to be relesead only region 1 or also the rest,as I need pal2.
fixer79
07-12-2007, 06:05 AM
I'm pretty sure the sets will be released for zone 2 too, Miss.
Probably not on the same date as the US release though...
MissDefense
07-12-2007, 06:27 AM
Thanks.I'll start saving my pennies in the meantime!:hat:
Blue Jay
07-16-2007, 04:29 AM
I wonder if the DVD will present the show in 16:9 or fullscreen and 5.1 Surround. i mean it is still lucasfilm.
Although i don't count it on being in 16:9 since it was shot in fullscreen and i don't believe it is possible to present it in 16:9 without cropping the picture.
But I think a THX presentation is very possible.
Any thoughts or infos? ;)
Matinee Idyll
07-16-2007, 07:52 AM
Young Indiana Jones Chronicles boxset!? Not the awful re-edited with awful 'joining' segments and no Old Indy abominations?
Oh please let it be true!
IndyJr.
07-16-2007, 10:42 AM
I want them to put it as they did on the Tv series... not the re-edits for the movies... and leave Old Indy out (and put him on a seperate thing... have a bonus feature called "Remembering Indy" and have a button for each one so you can watch them seperatly. so you can at least have Old Indy SOMEWHERE in the DVD... but really, I wouldn't mind having him IN the movies. :up:
Moedred
07-16-2007, 04:51 PM
Rick McCallum (http://starwarsblog.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/rick-mccallum-talks-live-action-tv-series-and-star-wars-3-d/):
“October 13th, the first [Young Indiana Jones DVD] comes out. We’ve spent about three and a half years making 100 documentaries to go with each episode of the Chronicles. So the first set comes out in mid-October, and then [a second batch] in January and [a third] just right after Indy IV.”
Matinee Idyll
07-16-2007, 08:19 PM
Chronicles... Chronicles...
I do sincerely hope they are, in the original, unedited incarnations.
SURELY they realised the edited together ones were shoddy? They had no sense of conclusion without Old Indy having the final word and placing each episode in a broader historical context - so many of them couldn't finish properly because they cut him out.
EDIT:
Well I just checked the website, and they're still stuck together "India/China" "Princeton/Mexico", etc... This sucks.
If they want to have any chance in hell of appealing to mainstream Indy fans, they should have kept Curse of the Jackal firmly stuck together. So stupid to split that up - it was such a wonderful, exciting narrative, now it just seems so stupid tacked onto the Princeton episode.
* sigh *
Moedred
07-16-2007, 09:55 PM
I'm still giving the release the benefit of the doubt. The series has never been seen in order, and youngest Indy has hardly been seen in 15 years. They need to include the old Indy bookends however... hidden if necessary.
Matinee Idyll
07-16-2007, 10:52 PM
Oh of course, I'm all for putting the series in chronological order, that's great - so long as they get rid of the horrid joining segments, put old Indy back in, and keep the original opening credit sequence.
I want each one as a seperate, 45 minute adventure (apart, of course, from the longer episodes - Curse of the Jackal, etc).
Oh please George, heed my prayer :)
EDIT: Just reading through this thread, and all of Whippers complaints with "The Complete Adventures" were bang on the money... Give us the damn chronicles George!
The Old Indy bookends and Especially his Narrations are too valuable for setting the stage for each episode and summing it all up. They shouldn't be lost. I also liked that he gave further insights into Young Indy's thoughts and emotional development as time went by.
Old Indy helped make a lot of episodes work as standalones.
And I came to see the bookends as charming and good comic relief to provide contrast in some of the really heavy episodes.
They hacked it out and tried to create new bridging material, but That stuff was truly Awful. Grainy film, Sean Flannery's hair all wrong, it just didn't Fit in there and it was painfully obvious.
The single-hour episodes should remain in episodic format and only the two-parters Created to be viewed as a single story should be presented that way.
Young Indy and the Scandal Of 1920 hasn't come out, has it? I wanna see that one out, but Intact. I don't believe they Could excise Old Indy out of that film, he's too integral to it, it would lose too much. The lady in the cab, the critic in the theater, all good stuff that shouldn't be lost if you wanted to put that movie out.
I also didn't like some of the new overdubbing they did. I much preferred the voices of the original actors in the Congo episodes over the new ones they used for home video release.
The originals had more urgency, they made the scenes more Intense. The guy playing Major Bouchet was great in that scene where he's faced with mutiny and is ranting how he'll shoot every last man. The new voice just wasn't into the moment, to my ears. The original was dramatic, the new guy's take was Flat... Running lines instead of Acting.
I remember some strange edits in places, too. Some different sequencing and alternated shots used that made me wonder, What was the POINT of that? They just took away a Good shot for a Nothing shot.
I miss the opening title sequence of the 'Chronicles, too, that was a Very nice piece of work. (A DVD set also ought to include the ABC trailers from before the series debut. They were cool and got me All pumped up about the series.)
Anyway, lest I get off on a rant myself... Let's just have The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, please. Pleeasse?
Palestine 1917 was a really wonderful, action packed regular length episode (which aired here in Australia) - when they made it into a feature length, with all the awful additional footage, bad special effects, a woman obviously not Catherine Zeta Jones it was so terrible... uggggggh! :(
EDIT:
Well I just checked the website, and they're still stuck together "India/China" "Princeton/Mexico", etc... This sucks.
The official site has no mention of any YIJC DVD's at all, so don't make any assumptions based on the material there.
Adamwankenobi
07-18-2007, 12:45 AM
Aaron H, can you provide us with any info here? I think most of us fans of YIJC would LOVE to see the original episodes on DVD. What's going on? :confused:
Matinee Idyll
07-18-2007, 12:51 AM
It's odd that the few Young Indy fans in existence really want the original Chronicles on DVD, but they're 90% likely to put out the crap re-edited versions.
Cest La Vie.
Blue Jay
07-18-2007, 02:57 AM
I loved young indy when it first aired. That is the only way i saw the episodes, so i have no idea how the reedited versions will work.
I guess that i have not even seen all the episodes.
But always thought, that the old guy with the eyepatch was not the indy i know.
In the end i don't really care which version they will release.
:gun:
But it is Lucas, so my guess would be that we will have new version on dvd. :whip:
Long live Indy .... well we know he does :hat:
Jooones!
08-11-2007, 08:13 PM
I'd also prefer the olde Indy versions...maybe they'll bring out both- the new one starting this year and the old ones, e.g. as bonus versions with the new ones in a new packaging, next year so to cash in again on the sure to come Indy hype then (as Lucas did with the "new limited editions" of SW OT before X-mas last year), yet as much as I love YI its not as popular as SW so maybe only one version...and then probably they'll look how it sells and based upon that decide whether to bring out another one...but from a collector's standpoint two versions would even have a certain appeal, too...
Adamwankenobi
08-12-2007, 05:28 PM
I just don't get Lucas. All he has to do is put both versions of the series on the DVDs, and then everyone would be happy. :confused:
Grizzlor
08-18-2007, 11:00 AM
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7862
First news on the content of the DVD release, includes 12 discs for MSRP $117.99. Extras mentioned are "Revolutions Interactive Game, Interactive Timeline and Professor Video."
Moedred
08-18-2007, 12:59 PM
11 hours on 12 discs? That's the first 7 or 8 Young Indy 'movies,' spread out indefinitely. The absurd price has to plummet. Otherwise, with tax the 3 volumes will cost $382. What do they take us for, Trekkies? Any other 2-season drama would go for about $100.
I think it's 12 discs total, with four in each volume. And loads of extras.
Adamwankenobi
08-18-2007, 07:51 PM
11 hours on 12 discs? That's the first 7 or 8 Young Indy 'movies,' spread out indefinitely. The absurd price has to plummet. Otherwise, with tax the 3 volumes will cost $382. What do they take us for, Trekkies? Any other 2-season drama would go for about $100.
That's Paramount for you. :rolleyes:
Matinee Idyll
08-18-2007, 08:49 PM
And that they won't be the episodes in their original forms is the biggest kick in the backside...
ResidentAlien
08-18-2007, 09:10 PM
And that they won't be the episodes in their original forms is the biggest kick in the backside...
Says who? The website doesn't say they're the cut versions. In fact the article referred to it as "Chronicles" which gives me hope that they're the originals.
Matinee Idyll
08-18-2007, 09:46 PM
Don't mind me man, I'm just a pessimist... plus, on the official sites episode guide they're still stuck together in 'adventures'.
ResidentAlien
08-18-2007, 10:14 PM
Don't mind me man, I'm just a pessimist... plus, on the official sites episode guide they're still stuck together in 'adventures'.
And? That page hasn't been updated in 8 years.
Matinee Idyll
08-19-2007, 06:15 AM
Well, I don't trust George to go back on his disastrous re-edits, but there's always hope.
What annoys me most is that I had alot of the original Chronicles taped, but when I heard the videos were coming out, I started taping over them.
Silly me.
Bullwhip
08-19-2007, 08:43 AM
I'm watching the re-edits now, in order. I'm halfway through Springbreak Adventure and it's weird having a newly-filmed segue into the Mexican/Pancho Villa portion with a Sean Patrick Flanery who is clearly years older. The tacked-on "ending" to the Curse of the Jackal part of My First Adventure (little Indy) is even worse. Ned stops Demetrius and he doesn't have the jackal on him. That's it. Anti-climactic. Then flash forward to a 12-year-old Corey Carrier in Tangiers.
I miss the old airings.
Grizzlor
08-20-2007, 12:01 AM
Lucas went through the trouble and expense of reshooting scenes to redit everything, and there's no way he's going to renege on that. I would only hope that any cut scenes, like all the George Hall bookends, would be make available. But I doubt it.
Matinee Idyll
08-20-2007, 04:46 AM
Lucas went through the trouble and expense of reshooting scenes to redit everything
Heh, shame there was little to no effort put into them.
How come nobody at Lucasfilm is saying "George, these new scenes look like sh*t. Put Old Indy back in."
OhioJones
08-21-2007, 04:25 PM
The artwork for the new DVD box set can bee seen here:
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/adventures-of-young-indiana-jones.html
:whip: :up:
Matinee Idyll
08-21-2007, 06:41 PM
Woah - that is good artwork.
Not sure what episodes are going to be on though, from the looks of the pic - is it chronological?
Hopefully Curse of the Jackal...
:rolleyes:
Oh! Still a faint glimmer of hope...
The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones which stars Sean Patrick Flanery, Corey Carrier, and George Hall
Please please please!
Grizzlor
08-21-2007, 07:46 PM
Yeah I picked up on the prominence of Corey Carrier as well. Considering the VHS releases were done in chronological chapters, I would expect the same from the DVD's. As for George Hall, that was DVD Active's hand writing, not Lucas Film. As I said, you almost bet these are the edited and rearranged "Adventures Of" version. They replaced the Hall segments with narration from Flannery I believe right? Would be nice to have them include it as an extra, although that is not Lucas' trademark. The only deleted (raw) scenes ever released for Star Wars were on a CD-ROM in 1997, and never again.
Matinee Idyll
08-21-2007, 07:52 PM
Nah, the 'Adventures of' versions didn't have any narration at all... which made the transitions between 'segments' all the more awkward and forced. Old Indy was a natural. I'd be alot happier if there was a big picture of George Halls smiling face on the box.
What's the Tangiers episode like Bullwhip?
Looks like we'll be getting atleast the first 9 'adventures'. I really like the Corey Carrier episodes I've seen (Egypt, Florence, Paris, Africa, Travels with Father and Benares) - but are they really hoping to win over a whole new audience with them? They're certainly the least 'sexy' episodes of the series.
1. "Egypt, May 1908"
2. "Tangiers, 1908"
3. "Florence, May 1908"
4. "Paris, September 1908"
5. "Vienna, November 1908"
6. "British East Africa, September 1909"
7. "Russia, 1910"
8. "Athens, 1910"
9. "Benares, January 1910"
10. "Peking, March 1910"
11. "Princeton, February 1916"
12. "Mexico, March 1916"
13. "Ireland, April 1916"
14. "London, May 1916"
15. "Somme, Early August 1916"
16. "Germany, Mid-August 1916"
17. "Verdun, September 1916"
18. "Paris, October 1916"
Rivers
08-21-2007, 10:14 PM
As much as I am just dying to get this set, I really wish they would have waited for Indy 4 to hit theaters first before releasing volume 1.
Moedred
08-21-2007, 10:18 PM
I dunno, I think this will be first 8 'movies,' ending with the prison escape. 649 total minutes can't stretch any farther. There's a 10-year-old boy all over the box, are they really going to conclude the volume with Indy getting laid? Though I hope volume two has a sex-ed documentary on century-old birth control. The young adult novelization was rather explicit.
Matinee Idyll
08-21-2007, 10:44 PM
Mmm, I mentioned the Verdun/Paris one simply because that still on the top right of the box is from 'Verdun' (French uniforms) - not the Somme episode (Belgian soldiers).
Heh, I'm watching 'Paris 1916' now Moe - I remember when I first saw it as a 12 or 13 year old... freaked me right out! :) They were showing the series at 4 in the morning, so I'd gotten up to tape it... and... yeah. Great stuff! ;)
Bullwhip
08-22-2007, 11:56 AM
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7286/2121321322mh0.jpg
edit: Oops, already posted.
What's the Tangiers episode like Bullwhip?
It wasn't bad. Good action and tension. Kinda heavy, actually, since it dealt with child slavery. Only problem is that Corey is like 12 or 13 and it's supposed to take place sometime right after Egypt 1908 (although the actual year is never mentioned). If they make it clear that it's years later (probably at the tail end of Indy's world tour) then it wouldn't be a problem. But it's part of My First Adventure and that's just silly.
Junior Jones
08-22-2007, 12:38 PM
Only problem is that Corey is like 12 or 13 and it's supposed to take place sometime right after Egypt 1908 (although the actual year is never mentioned).
Agreed. The fact that they're edited together makes it even more obvious. At the midpoint of the "movie", Indy suddenly sprouts up a foot, nearly as tall as his mother. They made half-hearted attempts to cover his growth spurt: Corey's voice has changed, but he tries to raise it to sound younger. And it's almost embarrassing to watch an actor who is so obviously in his teens trying to act like he's still eight.
Matinee Idyll
08-22-2007, 03:40 PM
Is there any reason why it couldn't have been attatched to a later episode? The date put forward a few years?
Bullwhip
08-22-2007, 03:43 PM
Only reason it was even made was to fill out "My First Adventure." Pretty senseless as yeah, it could have officially happened later-- stuck to another "movie" as the last adventure of the child Indy years.
Moedred
08-22-2007, 03:49 PM
Mmm, I mentioned the Verdun/Paris one simply because that still on the top right of the box is from 'Verdun' (French uniforms) - not the Somme episode (Belgian soldiers).
So the 'splosion is from the Verdun episode? Then I hope it's included, that would mean future volumes would be shorter and cheaper...
Avilos
08-23-2007, 02:46 AM
Is there any reason why it couldn't have been attatched to a later episode? The date put forward a few years?
But the whole plot is about how Indy is so young and defenseless. I don't think it would have worked with him older. He was smarter and more self reliant through his travels. This is when he was naive at the start of the trip.
Matinee Idyll
08-23-2007, 03:05 AM
Ahh, that makes sense - I can't see the Indy from 'Egypt' taking on a bunch of Cossacks like he does later...
Violet Indy
08-23-2007, 05:58 AM
Bring on the Paris episode! I've read about it and heard about it in the "Tales of Innocence" or the Morocco episode. Now I want to see it! It could be funny!
No Ticket
08-24-2007, 02:33 AM
I really wish I had seen more episodes of Young Indy... I've only seen about four now and I still am not a big fan. I remember one when I was little with a nine year old Indy in Egypt and I remember that being a fairly good one.
*shrug*
I wish I liked it more so I could merit buying this really expensive box set. I still haven't seen all of the Mystery of the Blues episode with Harrison Ford in it. Just that clip on YouTube.
Violet Indy
08-24-2007, 02:41 AM
The one with kid Indy in Eqypt is one of my favourites. My other favourites is the "Mystery of the Blues" (one with HF), Tales of Innocence (Sooooo corny but funny in that way) and Treasure of the Peacock's Eye (the closest you'll get to the films). Another good one is "Masks of Evil." Indy fights Dracula in that one! The acting is the best in the Istanbul part of that episode too.
No Ticket
08-24-2007, 02:46 AM
Indy fights... Dracula!?! LOL. That sounds crazy. I kind of want to watch that episode just to see how they went about it.
... seriously though, I may give the series another chance if I can see some other episodes, but I don't wanna pay $100 or so for that box set. Although I only just realized it has a documentary for EACH episode. That's crazy.
Violet Indy
08-24-2007, 09:24 PM
The Dracula part is pretty good. If you like ToD, you like it. It's not Dracula, but a crazy Romanian general who is really Vlad the Impaler and is a vampire, but what's weird is the guy has the vampire teeth but doesn't suck blood. He uses this medival operating table type table and... well, it's pretty gross for something Indy.
Violet Indy
08-26-2007, 02:11 AM
Actually it's not as bad and as long as Van Helsing. It's got a B horror movie type charm but better. I fast forwarded through most of Van Helsing. Feel asleep through the rest of it that I didn't fast forward.
Avilos
08-26-2007, 09:32 PM
I really like "Masks of Evil" a lot! It is one of the most important episodes of the series if you think about- This was Indy's first encounter with the occult and the supernatural. Which is a major element of the films. But I do really love Temple of Doom so that is another reason.
On Dracula/Vlad the Impaler SPOILERS......
The episode almost has a similar take as Frances Ford Coppla's film. That this is the original historical Vlad Tepes. Which Stroker named his book after and was inspired. WHich fits with the whole theme of meeting historical figures. But it is a fantasy because Vlad, who historically really was called "Dracula", is a vampire. Still a live after centuries.
I think the episode suggests that this man is who all the legends are based on. That Stroker's book is true. But that Stroker and the films distorted the details over the years. But basically in Indiana Jones world Vlad/Dracula is really a Vampire!
Masks of Evil was one of the better ones indeed :)
I liked the WW 1 stories, I didn't like the first few chapters and the last few that much, but they were still ok. I only saw 1 episode of the episodic versions on BBC, in the netherlands they always aired the tv-film versions and I taped most of them and bought daredevils of the desert on VHS :) I'm definetly going to buy the dvd's when they come, and I hope they put on deleted scenes, at least the scenes they cut out of the movie versions
Moedred
08-27-2007, 06:10 PM
http://news.tmcnet.com/news/it/-george-lucas-debuts-emmyr-winning-
Disc One:
-- My First Adventure
While on an archeological dig in Egypt's Valley of the Kings, Indy uncovers an ancient mummy and fresh corpse. With the help of T.E. Lawrence, the legendary Lawrence of Arabia, Indy solves an intriguing murder mystery only to find himself thrust right back into danger when he is kidnapped by slave-trading brigands. Dragged on a terrifying journey across the burning sands of North Africa to the slave markets of Marrakech, Indy finds that he must rely on his courage and wits to survive the brutal ordeal.
Companion Historical Documentaries:
-- Archaeology: Unearthing Our Past
-- Howard Carter and the Tomb of Tutankhamun
-- Colonel Lawrence's War: T.E. Lawrence and Arabia
-- From Slavery to Freedom
Disc Two:
-- Passion For Life
The beautiful Masai Mara game reserve in Kenya is the locale as Indy goes on safari with former President Teddy Roosevelt. When he becomes lost in the savage African bush, Indy finds that he must fight for his life against all manner of exotic and dangerous wildlife. Exotic wildlife of another kind await him in Paris when he accompanies a young Norman Rockwell on a rollicking tour through the bohemian world of Parisian fine art. Wild parties, wilder women and artist temperament are on full display as Pablo Picasso and Edgar Degas clash over their contrasting styles of painting, while painting the town red at a gaudy late-night soiree.
Disc Three (Passion For Life bonus disc):
Companion Historical Documentaries:
-- Theodore Roosevelt and The American Century
-- Ecology: Pulse of the Planet
-- American Dreams: Norman Rockwell and the Saturday Evening Post
-- Art Rebellion: The Making of the Modern
-- Edgar Degas: Reluctant Rebel
-- Braque + Picasso: A Collaboration Cubed
Disc Four:
-- The Perils of Cupid
In beautiful Vienna, Indy falls for the lovely young daughter of soon-to-be assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria. But the course of true love does not run smoothly and he must seek advice from two of the founding fathers of psychology, Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung. Romantic complications of another kind turn up in Florence, Italy, when Indy and his mother meet the great opera composer Giacomo Puccini. Dismayed to find his lonely mother succumbing to the sensuous charms of the charismatic Puccini, Indy frantically looks for a way to reunite his parents and rekindle their love before it's too late.
Disc Five (The Perils of Cupid bonus disc):
Companion Historical Documentaries:
-- Giacomo Puccini--Music of the Heart
-- It's Opera!
-- The Archduke's Last Journey--End of an Era
-- Powder Keg--Europe 1900 to 1914
-- Sigmund Freud--Exploring the Unconscious
-- Carl Jung and the Journey of Self Discovery
-- Psychology--Charting the Human Mind
Disc Six:
-- Travels with Father
A trip to Russia takes Indy from the opulent palaces of the aristocracy to the fetid villages of the peasant class when he runs away from home after an argument with his parents. Joining up with novelist Leo Tolstoy, the two go on the road, engaging in philosophical discussions and clashing with colorful Gypsies and ferocious Cossacks. Realizing that there's no place like home, Indy rejoins his mom and dad and travels with his father to an isolated Greek monastery perched high on the peak of a mountain. The arduous journey, including a harrowing trip in a tiny cage up a thousand-foot mountainside, brings father and son closer together.
Companion Historical Documentaries:
-- Seeking Truth--The Life of Leo Tolstoy
-- Unquiet Voices--Russian Writers and the State
-- Aristotle--Creating Foundations
-- Ancient Questions--Philosophy and Our Search for Meaning
Disc Seven:
-- Journey of Radiance
A jaunt through the mystical Far East takes Indy to the Holy City of Benares where he befriends the lonely and isolated young leader of the Theosophy movement, Jiddu Krishnamurti. Surrounded by supplicants and hangers-on, Krishnamurti struggles to have faith in himself and to fulfill the destiny decreed for him by his worshippers. In the process he shows Indy just how strong the power of faith can be. Indy's mother also learns a lesson in faith and trust when she must rely on some poor Chinese villagers and their traditional medical techniques to save the life of her son who lies perilously close to death with typhoid fever.
Companion Historical Documentaries:
-- Jiddu Krishnamurti--The Reluctant Messiah
-- Annie Besant--An Unlikely Rebel
-- Medicine in the Middle Kingdom
-- Eastern Spirituality--The Road to Enlightenment
Disc Eight:
-- Spring Break Adventure
Indy and his girlfriend Nancy Stratemeyer, whose father created the Nancy Drew mystery series, visit the fascinating laboratory of inventor Thomas Edison. The two must contend with dangerous German spies as they struggle to keep Edison's top secret new invention out of the hands of hostile enemy agents. To keep him from getting into any more trouble, Indy is sent to visit his Aunt in New Mexico. While there, he is kidnapped by Pancho Villa and swept up into the Mexican Revolution. Chaotic, free-wheeling border towns, a "Wild Bunch" style train robbery and a colorful barroom encounter with a young George Patton make for thrilling entertainment in this action-packed movie.
Disc Nine (Spring Break Adventure bonus disc):
Companion Historical Documentaries:
-- Thomas Alva Edison--Lighting up the World
-- Invention and Innovation--What's Behind a Good Idea?
-- The Mystery of Edward Stratemeyer
-- Wanted: Dead or Alive--Pancho Villa and the American Invasion of Mexico
-- General John J. Pershing and his American Army
-- George S. Patton--American Achilles
Disc Ten:
-- Love's Sweet Song
Landing in Ireland right before the Easter Rebellion, Indy mixes romance and revolutionary politics when he falls for a beautiful young colleen whose brother is mixed up in the Irish resistance movement. Across the waters in England he encounters a similar problem when his love affair with a strong-willed young woman is derailed by her fervent belief in the women's suffrage movement and her need for independence. Violent street brawls, a terrifying Zeppelin raid and a seriocomic dinner party with Winston Churchill provide plenty of thrills in this exciting, romantic adventure.
Disc Eleven (Love's Sweet Song bonus disc):
Companion Historical Documentaries:
-- Easter Rising--The Poets' Rebellion
-- The Passions of William Butler Yeats
-- Sean O'Casey vs. Ireland
-- Ireland--The Power of the Poets
-- Winston Churchill--The Lion's Roar
-- Demanding the Vote--The Pankhursts and British Suffrage
-- Fighting for the Vote--Women's Suffrage in America
Disc Twelve: (Interactive Disc)
Special Features:
-- "Revolution" Interactive Game, based on Spring Break Adventure allows players to become Indy and make their own decisions based on Indy's adventures. As well as entertaining, this game has educational elements.
-- Extensive Interactive Timeline that details the history and locations of Indy's adventures and previews footage of the companion documentaries.
-- Historical Lecture: The Promise of Progress is an exploration of the people and events of the Industrial Revolution, spanning the late 19th century to the early 20th century.
Moedred
08-27-2007, 06:39 PM
The 38 historical companion films are original works from the Lucasfilm documentary unit, headed by CBS News veteran David Schneider. The documentaries complement the episodes with insights from scholars, historians and luminaries from a wide range of disciplines, bringing remarkable and fresh insight into The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones. They include interviews with Gen. Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, Gloria Steinem, Martin Scorsese, Barbara Boxer, James Earl Jones, Hal David and Deepak Chopra, along with some of the nation's pre-eminent academics.
A critically acclaimed combination of adventure, romance and history, The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones was shot in 35 countries and utilized the talents of the industry's most distinguished actors, directors and writers, earning 11 Emmy Awards and 26 nominations over the course of its production. In addition, The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones was the first television series to use digital production, pioneering processes that would pave the way for Lucas' own Star Wars prequels.
"Young Indiana Jones was one of the most ambitious and complex projects that had ever been attempted for television, and the result was an amazing series that showed a completely different side to Indy," said series producer Rick McCallum, who also produced the three Star Wars prequels and the Special Editions of the original Star Wars Trilogy. "Over the years, the fan support for Young Indiana Jones has swelled, and I'm asked about it everywhere I go. So, I'm really happy that people who grew up with it can at last have it for themselves, and that a new generation will be able to discover the brilliant acting, directing, writing and storytelling that has always been the hallmark of an extraordinary venture."
The feature-length episodes star Sean Patrick Flanery (Boondock Saints, "The Dead Zone") as teenaged Indy and Corey Carrier (Nixon) as 9-year-old Indy. The extraordinary cast of guest stars includes Christopher Lee, Vanessa Redgrave, Max von Sydow, Anne Heche, Lukas Haas, Elizabeth Hurley, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Jeffrey Wright and Daniel Craig.
During its network-television run, critics described the series as intelligent, daring, well written, irreverent, and unprecedented in scope and production values. The Hollywood Reporter called the series "exciting, fun, adventurous, brilliantly made and with a story that's simply charming." Bill Moyers said, "These exciting tales are the way to a youngster's imagination - and his grandfather's, too. History's never been told more vividly or more engagingly for the young and old alike. May Young Indy be my grandson's companion far into the 21st Century."
The Young Indiana Jones films also feature the work of some of the industry's biggest names in directing and writing. Directors include Bille August (Les Miserables), Mike Newell (Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire), David Hare (Strapless, screenplays for The Hours and Damage), Terry Jones (Monty Python and the Holy Grail and The Life of Brian), Deepa Mehta (Water), Joe Johnston (The Rocketeer, Jurassic Park III), Nicholas Roeg (The Man Who Fell To Earth, Don't Look Now), and Michael Schultz (Car Wash, TV's Everwood). Writers include Rosemary Anne Sisson (Upstairs, Downstairs), Frank Darabont (The Shawshank Redemption) and Jonathan Hensleigh (Die Hard with a Vengeance).
THE ADVENTURES OF YOUNG INDIANA JONES Volume One, debuts Oct. 23 and also features an interactive historical timeline that gives an exciting and educational cross-section of the early 20th century. Volume Two will follow on Dec. 18, with Volume Three scheduled for release in Spring 2008. The complete three-volume collection will contain 22 feature-length movies and 94 documentaries, interactive games developed by River Deep, an interactive timeline produced by Terra Incognita Productions and an historical overview by noted author and University of Texas history professor H.W. Brands.
USA Today says it's under $100 now. My support just swelled some...
thanks, seems all we gonna get are historical documentaries and an interactive disc, no deleted scenes:(
Grizzlor
08-27-2007, 09:15 PM
This is exactly why the series failed on network and cable television, and the DVD sales could be scant. Is this what fans or DVD purchasers really want? No. This is lunacy. Plain lunacy. I understand they wanted to make this into an educational tool, and that is very commendable. The odds are you are getting a very well done and interesting selection of documentaries. However, that is not what the name Indiana Jones brings to mind. The DVD should have been one set of the entire series, with trailers, deleted scenes, commentary, and interview/featurettes. No commentary, no interviews? Welcome to planet George.
Moedred
08-27-2007, 10:18 PM
The press release calls Gloria Steinem and Barbara Boxer luminaries.
Is this product intended for sale outside of Marin County?
Matinee Idyll
08-28-2007, 07:44 AM
Actually Grizzlor, I really like the idea of the historical documentaries. If they're done well, they could accompany the series perfectly.
I'm more pissed that it's the Adventures and not the Chronicles.
fixer79
08-31-2007, 12:55 PM
All those historical documentaries are neat but...
I was kinda hoping to see some behind the scenes/making of kind of footage...
According to the special features list, I didn't see any documentaries of that kind... Did I overlook them?
Moedred
08-31-2007, 02:28 PM
http://www.theraider.net/news/newsimages/dvd_youngindy_vol1.jpg
This saves space, but I'm not fond of overlap DVD packaging.
Here you have to lay out 12 discs, and pry 2, to watch one.
Adamwankenobi
08-31-2007, 10:47 PM
All those historical documentaries are neat but...
I was kinda hoping to see some behind the scenes/making of kind of footage...
According to the special features list, I didn't see any documentaries of that kind... Did I overlook them?
I feel your pain. One can only hope that volume two and/or three will contain some behind the scenes/making-of footage.
fixer79
09-02-2007, 12:43 PM
I feel your pain. One can only hope that volume two and/or three will contain some behind the scenes/making-of footage.
That's right!
Let's keep our fingers crossed...:)
Gobi-1
09-02-2007, 11:33 PM
Personally I think the set is going to be brilliant but I'm also hoping for some behind-the-scenes material, interviews, documentaries about the making of the show itself.
:whip:
ResidentAlien
09-02-2007, 11:53 PM
It sounds like we are getting the re-edits after all too. :(
Moedred
09-04-2007, 02:30 PM
Dunno why this is over at starwars.com (http://www.starwars.com/community/news/films/news20070830.html). I don't see much besides what was listed...
http://www.starwars.com/community/news/films/img/20070830_1_bg.jpg
http://www.starwars.com/community/news/films/img/20070830_6_bg.jpg
Irfaan
09-07-2007, 12:33 PM
Dunno why this is over at starwars.com (http://www.starwars.com/community/news/films/news20070830.html). I don't see much besides what was listed...
http://www.starwars.com/community/news/films/img/20070830_1_bg.jpg
http://www.starwars.com/community/news/films/img/20070830_6_bg.jpg
Good find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael24
09-18-2007, 01:01 PM
I've really been looking forward to YOUNG INDY finally coming to DVD, so I was excited when it was finally announced. However, I was quickly disappointed (very disappointed) to look at the list of bonus features and find out that not a single one has anything to do with the show itself, but rather are just historical documentaries and the like devoted to elements within the episodes.
I was hoping for perhaps a documentary about the making of the show, cast and crew interviews, deleted scenes, commentaries, etc.
I understand the reasoning behind making the set for educational purposes as well (which I think is great), but I think they could have still included stuff that was actually about the show. Perhaps we might get that on one of the other volumes?
Flannery10
09-18-2007, 02:18 PM
I'm so looking forward to the release of the 3 volumes, although I'm sharing your concerns considering the Old Indy bookends. They were supporting the plot of the episodes perfectly and they are a great loss, so I hope they will be at least part of the special features.
The price of 117$ per box is also a little too much, but since I'm a huge fan of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles I'm gonna buy all of them anyway.
indy34
09-19-2007, 07:15 AM
i havent taken the time to read every thing on this thread but does any one know if its comming out in australia and also how good is young ive only ever seen part of one episode but i can hardly remember because i was about 6 i think:)
Paramount's brand new media kit: http://indyville.fi/tiedostot/YIJC_MediaKit.pdf
Michael24
09-20-2007, 03:15 PM
i havent taken the time to read every thing on this thread but does any one know if its comming out in australia and also how good is young ive only ever seen part of one episode but i can hardly remember because i was about 6 i think:)
I didn't know for a long time, but apparently YOUNG INDY is really split among fans. Some love it, some hate it, so opinion on whether it's good or not will be mixed. I myself remember enjoying it when it was first on, but I've not seen it since, so I'm looking forward to rediscovering it when the DVDs come out.
Avilos
09-21-2007, 10:57 PM
Paramount's brand new media kit: http://indyville.fi/tiedostot/YIJC_MediaKit.pdf
That's great! Thank you.
The map shows Jackson Hole, Wyoming as a site of one of Indy's adventures. Which of course is a reference to Harrisons's bookends in "Mystery of the Blues".
Just pointing that out because he is not listed or mentioned for that episode....
Before anyone panicked! ;)
Flannery10
09-24-2007, 03:51 PM
The details for Young Indiana Jones Vol. 2 and 3 have been released. Check it out:
Vol.2 http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Young-Indiana-Jones-Chronicles-Special-Report-Part-2-Volume-2/8122
Vol.3 http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Young-Indiana-Jones-Chronicles-Special-Report-Part-3-Volume-3/8125
NoCamels
09-24-2007, 11:27 PM
Thanks for the info, Flannery10!
I like both versions of Young Indy...probably because I wasn't allowed to stay up late enough to watch it very often, so most of the ones I've seen were the six videos I managed to get. I can't wait to finally see all the ones I only remember pieces of or missed!
It does look like most of my favorites are on volume 2... and the ones I wanted to see most are on volume 3! :p I hope vol. 3 is out by March because if it is, I actually have an educational use for the 1920s episodes. And I really hope each volume's not $100+
NoCamels
09-24-2007, 11:30 PM
The map shows Jackson Hole, Wyoming as a site of one of Indy's adventures. Which of course is a reference to Harrisons's bookends in "Mystery of the Blues".
Just pointing that out because he is not listed or mentioned for that episode....
Before anyone panicked! ;)
Yeah, hopefully they leave those bookends in even if they take all the rest out! I've only ever seen the youtube clip of that one.
The details for Young Indiana Jones Vol. 2 and 3 have been released. Check it out:
Vol.2 http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Young-Indiana-Jones-Chronicles-Special-Report-Part-2-Volume-2/8122
Vol.3 http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Young-Indiana-Jones-Chronicles-Special-Report-Part-3-Volume-3/8125
All of that information except the Vol 2 cover is from that media kit I posted almost a week ago.
Moedred
09-26-2007, 12:14 AM
The worst thing about this volume is the 4 all-documantary bonus discs. They're odd numbered and thus positioned obliquely to their features, and eclipsing others. They drive up the price, and require more gatefolds. Dual layered discs or compressing a doc here and there would have made this an 8-disc set.
Flannery10
09-26-2007, 03:49 PM
I know and I really enjoyed reading it, but as you already said, the Vol.2 cover wasn't included:)
I'm rather dissapponted though, that the Old Indy bookends are not included on the Bonus Disc, because I really liked them and hoped that they would be considered deleted scenes.
Flannery10
09-29-2007, 04:25 PM
Like they said, the cover for vol.2 wasn't final. Here's the final one:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Young-Indiana-Jones-Chronicles-Volume-2-Box-Art/8156
I really like it and I think the guy in the upper right corner is Daniel Craig but i'm not sure though. Did he play an important character in one of the episodes included on vol.2?
I'm kinda curious however, what the subtitle for the vol.3 box will be, since vol.2 is completely about the war, but vol.3 also includes like 2 or 3 (if you count the beginning of chapter 18) episodes that are considered war episodes.
Yeah it's Craig, he was in Palestine 1917 aka Daredevils of the Desert.
defenseDeFumer
09-29-2007, 06:46 PM
While it's been mentioned that the old Indy bookends will not be included in the DVD release, I seem to remember that there was actual footage of Sean Patrick Flannery that was removed from the video releases last time around, when compared to the original "Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" one hour tv episodes.
For instance, "Spring Break Adventure" cut some footage of Indy being punished by a teacher and having to stay after school in the Princeton portion of the movie. Additionally, I seem to recall some voice-over dialogue of Ned Lawrence that was deleted while Indy was reading a letter from him at the end of the episode during the Mexico portion.
Does anyone know of other footage that was deleted from the two hour movie versions of the episodes? Of course there's the old Indy bookends, but I'm wondering it there's substantial other cuts as well.
Flannery10
09-30-2007, 09:34 AM
I'm not sure if they cut anything out besides the things you mentioned, but I know they added like two or three minutes to the movie versions, to connect the two episodes they put together better. I have to admit though, that I can't give any examples, since I have only seen two movies: Phantom Train of Doom and Treasure of the Peacock's Eye (both of them are great).
Flannery10
09-30-2007, 07:40 PM
Oh and I remember now, that there was an episode (I can't remember which one), that had Flannery telling the story, so he was the actor playing Indy in the bookends. Anybody know which episode that was and was the scene cut out?
OhioJones
09-30-2007, 08:19 PM
Yeah it's Craig, he was in Palestine 1917 aka Daredevils of the Desert.
It's definatly Craig. Is that an actual shot of him from the show, cuz it lines up damn near perfect with a shot from Casino Royale.
ResidentAlien
09-30-2007, 08:29 PM
It's definatly Craig. Is that an actual shot of him from the show, cuz it lines up damn near perfect with a shot from Casino Royale.
Yes, it's from the show...
OhioJones
09-30-2007, 08:32 PM
Yes, it's from the show...
Really? Cuz it looks an awful lot like this:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1213/yicr1qp3.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8682/yicr2sv1.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3994/yicr3gn0.jpg
Either Craig takes very very very similiar photos, or that is a photoedited picture from CR.
But it really doesn't matter. Craig is great and that gives me even more reason to by YI on DVD.
ResidentAlien
09-30-2007, 08:35 PM
Really? Cuz it looks an awful lot like this:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1213/yicr1qp3.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8682/yicr2sv1.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3994/yicr3gn0.jpg
Either Craig takes very very very similiar photos, or that is a photoedited picture from CR.
But it really doesn't matter. Craig is great and that gives me even more reason to by YI on DVD.
We are talking about the very same man...
...it's only been 10 yearsish. And besides, he has facial hair in the Young Indy clip. And a white jacket. And his lips are slightly parted unlike in the CR photo.
I'm not sure why you're so shocked that the two pictures would look similar.
OhioJones
09-30-2007, 09:04 PM
Oh, I know it's Daniel Craig. I was just suprised by how similiar the two pictures are. I know it sounds stupid, because its two picture of the SAME guy, but I thought there might be a chance they were the same shot. Either way, pretty sweet. Does he do a good job with his role, albeit a small one?
Major West
10-01-2007, 05:35 AM
It's definitely the CR picture that has been altered in photoshop. I doubt they had many, or indeed any photos of him from the shoot all those years ago and a frame grab wouldn't be good enough quality.
OhioJones
10-01-2007, 02:42 PM
It's definitely the CR picture that has been altered in photoshop. I doubt they had many, or indeed any photos of him from the shoot all those years ago and a frame grab wouldn't be good enough quality.
That's what Im thinking. And of course, now that he's a star; they had to put him on the cover. Photoediting that picture was the best they could do to get a good picture of him on the cover.
ResidentAlien
10-01-2007, 04:15 PM
I'm calling bull**** on this.
The episode in question was Young Indiana and the Attack of the Hawkmen.
...it was a TV movie for Fox Family in 1995. It won a prime-time Emmy. There's no way they didn't take publicity stills for that. They took publicity stills, I'd bet good money on that...
OhioJones
10-01-2007, 04:21 PM
I'm calling bull**** on this.
The episode in question was Young Indiana and the Attack of the Hawkmen.
...it was a TV movie for Fox Family in 1995. It won a prime-time Emmy. There's no way they didn't take publicity stills for that. They took publicity stills, I'd bet good money on that...
But why would they take one of Daniel Craig. He wasn't exactly a big star. The lines match up perfectly, inluding the collar. All they need to do was manip things.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5417/yijb4ij8.jpg
ResidentAlien
10-01-2007, 04:22 PM
The collar actually appears higher in the Young Indy photo...
OhioJones
10-01-2007, 04:28 PM
The collar actually appears higher in the Young Indy photo...
Not really. It's hard to tell where the collar ends, due to the quality of the photo and the fact that it is made to blend in with the background. Even still, the line is nearly identical. The pose is nearly identical. The face is nearly identical and its been over 10 years. Daniel Craig looked a lot younger back then (not saying he looks old now)
ResidentAlien
10-01-2007, 04:32 PM
I suppose we'll settle this once the DVD is released...
I don't own that one on VHS.
OhioJones
10-01-2007, 04:41 PM
I suppose we'll settle this once the DVD is released...
I don't own that one on VHS.
Haha, sounds like a plan:whip:
Major West
10-02-2007, 06:11 AM
The shadows on the face the practically identical. It's definitely the same picture. Craig looks much younger in the YIJ episode as well.
Junior Jones
10-02-2007, 08:16 AM
The episode in question was Young Indiana and the Attack of the Hawkmen.
Actually, it was Daredevils of the Desert (also guest-starring young Catherine Zeta-Jones as a belly dancer). Highly recommended.
Here's a publicity still of Craig from the episode:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/IndyVille/yijc_craig.jpg
ResidentAlien
10-02-2007, 11:29 AM
Thanks VP. :)
Flannery10
10-02-2007, 01:49 PM
Thanks for the picture. I think it proves the therories about the Craig picture, because if I wouldn't have known I definetely wouldn't have recognized him. He looks much younger in your picture and when I first saw the cover of vol.2I recognized him immediately, just because of the way his head is turned.
OhioJones
10-02-2007, 03:40 PM
Yeah, I think that proves my theory. Cool picture
Jeremiah Jones
10-08-2007, 04:07 PM
Just watching 'Winds of Change' on crappy ole' VHS, taped it years ago, Man I really hope the DVDs are remastered somewhat, the first part of the episode where Indy's in Versailles looks grand and dandy, but then when he leaves for America and we enter newly filmed territory it starts to get really awful. As noted before, the film stock is all grainy and Indy, as he is in all newly filmed segments, seems really really really depressed.:eek: It looks like hes gonna burst into tears at any moment. Anyway, I've seen all of the re-edited versions of slightly older Indy, as in Spring Break adventure to Hollywood Follies, and was just wondering what they've introduced into the mix with the newly filmed stuff with Corey Carrier. I'm particularly curious about the stuff added to whats now called Passion for life, as it would seem to involve Indy and Family getting from Africa to Paris in Double time.
Oh and, Hello, this is my first post.:up:
Flannery10
10-13-2007, 10:03 AM
If anybody is interested, Star Wars. com published a couple of articles about the Discs of Young Indy Vol.1 and the Documentaries on them. There are little descriptions and the lenght of the episodes and documentaries, so check it out:
http://www.starwars.com/community/news/films/archive.html
ResidentAlien
10-16-2007, 05:46 PM
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5222/craiglw9.jpg
Ahhh, the smell of defeat, gentlemen. Smells pretty rank, eh? Due to the poor quality of the media player on YoungIndy.com, I couldn't pause the video on the EXACT frame, this is a few frames behind...
....but this should be adequate proof. As I pointed, slightly parsed lips, facial hair, and a higher collar than the CR picture. :whip:
Matinee Idyll
10-16-2007, 07:15 PM
Heh, I'm alittle surprised (and I wouldn't put it past crazy George) that he didn't cut the River Phoenix segment out of Last Crusade, stick it in the Young Indy series as Utah, 1912 or whatever, and then hire another actor to film another 30 minutes of footage and attach it to another episode.
Would've been quite amusing!
OhioJones
10-16-2007, 11:16 PM
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5222/craiglw9.jpg
Ahhh, the smell of defeat, gentlemen. Smells pretty rank, eh? Due to the poor quality of the media player on YoungIndy.com, I couldn't pause the video on the EXACT frame, this is a few frames behind...
....but this should be adequate proof. As I pointed, slightly parsed lips, facial hair, and a higher collar than the CR picture. :whip:
Wow! You got me!
Who would have thought (you would obviously).
Cool, I was wrong.
LawgSkrak
10-21-2007, 12:34 AM
My question is:
Are these going to be on the DVDs in chronological order? Meaning, from Volume 1 through 3? Not some 9 yr old Indy and teen Indy on all 3 volumes.
Adamwankenobi
10-21-2007, 01:58 AM
My question is:
Are these going to be on the DVDs in chronological order? Meaning, from Volume 1 through 3? Not some 9 yr old Indy and teen Indy on all 3 volumes.
Correct. These aren't like the James Bond sets.
Major West
10-21-2007, 06:48 AM
....but this should be adequate proof. As I pointed, slightly parsed lips, facial hair, and a higher collar than the CR picture. :whip:
Yes indeed. Although all of those changes could have been applied to the other image in photoshop. Although now we have this new picture we know they weren't, but they could have been.
LawgSkrak
10-21-2007, 08:35 AM
Correct. These aren't like the James Bond sets.
Well, that's good, I guess. I just wish Lucas would actually release things the way they aired on television for a change, instead of splicing things together into movies.
I'm STILL waiting for the Ewoks and Droids cartoons to get a proper release, not those hack jobs that they released a few yrs back.
Moedred
10-21-2007, 07:19 PM
New interview (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/homeentertainment/la-ca-indiana21oct21,0,6671181.story) with Lucas...
"He is sort of like Forrest Gump with a whip... The main thing I was really after was to see how many shows I could get done before they woke up and said enough is enough."
Adamwankenobi
10-21-2007, 11:58 PM
Well, that's good, I guess. I just wish Lucas would actually release things the way they aired on television for a change, instead of splicing things together into movies.
I'm STILL waiting for the Ewoks and Droids cartoons to get a proper release, not those hack jobs that they released a few yrs back.
Quoted for truth.
LawgSkrak
10-23-2007, 05:40 PM
So did anyone get these? How are they?
metalinvader
10-23-2007, 05:57 PM
The DVD set is good.I could have done without some of the documents though,
LawgSkrak
10-23-2007, 06:32 PM
Why in gods name are they splicing episodes together in reverse order? Disc four's ep, I think it is, the second half technically takes place before the first half.
What in gods name is Lucas doing?!?
And the first episode, Cory Carrier looks and sounds like 2 years older during the second hald then he does in the first.
This is just shoddy. Don't know if I want this set anymore. It's the Indiana Jones version of Ewoks: The Haunted Village and Droids the Pirate and the Prince. (Both of which I avoided like the plague.)
Grizzlor
10-23-2007, 06:44 PM
LawgSkrak, the editing of episodes was not done for the DVD. These were re-edited and ordered back in the late 90's. Following the end of the series that is. Lucas had reshot segments during the initial filming of The Phantom Menace. I agree that when he started lumping together two completely separate one hour eps. together, it really looked bad. Regardless, he should have kept the bookends on the DVD as extras, and included some cast interviews or commentary. Instead he spent millions on documentaries. Brilliant.
Flannery10
10-23-2007, 08:38 PM
Did you guys realize any other changes made to the episodes? I mean from the re-edited versions to the DVD version? Just curious.
Adamwankenobi
10-23-2007, 10:35 PM
This is just shoddy. Don't know if I want this set anymore. It's the Indiana Jones version of Ewoks: The Haunted Village and Droids the Pirate and the Prince. (Both of which I avoided like the plague.)
Lucas actually re-edited those at the same time he did the Young Indy series (circa 1996). The difference is that with Droids and Ewoks, he didn't edit the entire series, only his favorite episodes.
In my opinion, the new format for Droids and Ewoks really tries to make them something they are not. Each "movie" takes four episodes from one of the series and tries to make them feel like animated movies. But they still feel like four seperate episodes strung together. I've wanted the complete uncut series of each on DVD for years. And this Young Indy release doesn't make such a release very likely.
LawgSkrak
10-24-2007, 08:40 AM
Yeah. I can't wait for the live action SW series to come out on DVD, with all the episodes spliced together to make movies.
BARF
Adamwankenobi
10-24-2007, 12:31 PM
Yeah. I can't wait for the live action SW series to come out on DVD, with all the episodes spliced together to make movies.
BARF
The next time Lucas is interviewed by the press, I would absolutely love it if someone had the balls to ask him something like this:
"So, Mr. Lucas... with the new live-action series, why don't you just go ahead and edit all the episodes as 'movies' the first time around, since we all know you will anyway for the DVD release?"
:whip:
gallandro
10-26-2007, 12:24 AM
My quick review of the Young Indy Vol 1 set... I'll post a more in depth review later:
Picked up the set Tuesday.... FANTASTIC! Great transfers, clean and detailed with vibrant colors, which is great considering the show was shot on 16mm.
Amazing volume of extras. Now bear in mind the documentaries included are geared toward educating kids and getting them interested in history, so they are not exactly super in-depth. But they are well made and will give kids some insight into the episode they just watched. The interactive features on the Bonus Disc are just insane, Lucas really outdid himself... great stuff.
Now some observations: WOW I've forgotten how good this show was, even the early episodes starring Corey Carrier. Carrier is a solid child actor and really holds his own against the adults. The shows are well scripted, well directed, and have outstanding production values. Having said that, Young Indy is not going to be everyone's cup of tea... no fistfights with Nazis or mad Indian cultists, no boulder death traps. Nope Young Indy is more of a coming-of-age show about the events of the early 20th Century which shaped OUR lives.
Yes the Old-Indy bookends are gone... frankly I could care less. For those that claim Lucas is again indulging in revisionism of his work I would suggest you look at what was happening to the show back in 1992-93. By the second season ratings were dropping off precipitously, and in an effort to revitalize the show Lucas and ABC presented three episodes as big TV event "movies" on Sunday night. Those episodes were "Young Indiana Jones and the Mystery of the Blues", "Young Indiana Jones and the Scandal of 1920", and "Young Indiana Jones and the Phantom Train of Doom". The third season would have kicked off with yet another two-hour movie, "Young Indiana Jones and the Hollywood Follies" which aired on the Family Channel.
So it's clear Lucas was moving AWAY from 1 hour episodic television, and moving toward the "made for TV movie" format. Ultimately this mish-mash of 1 and 2 hour episodes would make packaging for syndication difficult. So either you cut the 2 hour episodes in half and create new bookends, or you drop the original bookends and put two 1 hour episodes together as a movie. Ultimately I would like to see the Bookends included as a bonus feature on the final disc set, as well as the original opening credits... we'll see.
Just a note on the first disc movie "My First Adventure," which includes the episode "Egypt, May 1908" and the unaired "Tangier, 1908". Tangiers was actually shot years after the first episode, so Corey Carrier is OBVIOUSLY much older. In fact Lucas shot the sequence which bridges the two episodes in 1997 in Tunisia while shooting TPM. But the Tangier episode is very good... a pretty frank look at slavery in the Middle East, which gets a little dark toward the end... good stuff.
One of the things that has really struck me, having not watched the show in quite a while, is just how good Lloyd Owen is as Indy's dad. Solid actor with great comic timing. He's especially good in "Travels with Father".
My favorites from this set are Vienna 1908 which is part of "Perils With Cupid" and England 1916 which is part of "Love's Sweet Song". Both of these episodes were very well written and directed, and the performances were top notch. In fact, I would even venture to say England 1916 is one of the most well written hours of episodic television I've ever seen. Elizabeth Hurley and Sean Patrick Flannery are exceptional in this episode, and their brief affair feels very genuine.
Also, Princeton 1916 from "Spring Break Adventures", is a favorite and is a great light hearted mystery in the vein of Nancy Drew or the Hardy Boys.
So glad I picked up this set... now I can't wait for Vol 2... bring on the War Years!!!
Yancy
Michael24
10-26-2007, 12:28 AM
I'm sure the educational documentaries are in-depth and well-made, but why is it there are no documentaries, interviews, commetaries, etc. about the show itself? Like a "The Making of Young Indiana Jones" or something like that? I was a little disappointed to see that all the bonus features are geared towards historical elements of the time periods the episodes take place in rather than some about the making of the show. :(
gallandro
10-26-2007, 12:48 AM
I suspect that would be on the final disc set if they include them. One thing I found interesting, if you look here:
Young Indy Video Clips (http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/release/91/131491/videos/)
You'll notice the interviews with Lucas and McCallum do not appear to have been created by Movieweb, they look like they were done in house by Lucasfilm. They lighting schemes and settings are identical to their interviews on the Star Wars and Indiana Jones Trilogy DVDs.
I suspect these interviews, and others will appear in the final set.
Yancy
gallandro,
Great videos! I appreciate the link and also your DVD review.
Good stuff...Yes, Lloyd Owen is excellent as Henry Sr. and
you're more than right about the Hardy Boys feel to the
Princeton episode. Too much to say!
Welcome to The Raven!:whip:
gallandro
10-26-2007, 09:53 AM
The videos I posted are now on the Official Star Wars (http://www.starwars.com) web site. So it's clear these interviews were produced by Lucasfilm, and I suspect we will see them down the road on set 3.
Yancy
Vendetta08
10-26-2007, 11:42 AM
I'm sure the educational documentaries are in-depth and well-made, but why is it there are no documentaries, interviews, commetaries, etc. about the show itself? Like a "The Making of Young Indiana Jones" or something like that? I was a little disappointed to see that all the bonus features are geared towards historical elements of the time periods the episodes take place in rather than some about the making of the show. :(
Really? There's no "making of," just a bunch of historical documentaries? Pfft, I just had US History class today, I don't need anymore of it.
NoCamels
10-26-2007, 03:30 PM
Ahh, but young Indy isn't in the US very often. ;) And so many interesting and important things happened in that time period (1900-1920) that are still affecting us today.
For the DVD, some episodes might work better as two 1-hour parts than as one 2-hour, but overall not too bad. Some are just fine as they are. The only documentary I've watched so far was the Krishnamurti one, since I had never heard of him before. It was just the right length and the right amount of information to give you a decent overview of his life. It helped make sense of why he was in that episode and what was so interesting about who he became. If the others are of the same quality they should be worth it for the casual history buff or for showing to classes.
I hope they do put some stuff about the making of the show in the final volume though. Even the videos had those interviews with Sean Patrick Flannery and George Lucas.
gallandro
10-26-2007, 04:30 PM
I guess I must be in the minority... I went back and looked at a couple of my old VHS copies of the show, and found some videos on Youtube, and I have to say "Thank God they removed the bookends."
They really are quite bad, and amount to nothing more than Old Indy popping up to explain "the moral of the story." Some of them border on talking down to the audience (i.e., Verdun 1916... sorry but I think the story itself explains that sometimes the little guy gets screwed over by people in authority... didn't need doddering Old Indy to spell that out for my kids), and others just feel out of place in the context of the episode we just watched.
One I especially hated is London 1916, as presented on the DVD "Love's Sweet Song", Indy and Vicky's story ends as a bittersweet tale of a romance doomed by outside events. In the original episode the story's impact is completely watered down as Old Indy just happens to run into Old Vicky just as he happens to be relaying his tearjerker story to his poor unsuspecting CPA... Now I love a good cheesy story as the next guy, but that bookend just smacks of week old Limburger cheese left out on the counter.
Finally, Old Indy comes off as a doddering, mean, old man who is just bitter at life and wants to make sure everyone around him suffers the way he did in his youth.
Yancy
Flannery10
10-26-2007, 06:34 PM
Well, that's always based on opinion.
I'm kinda surprised you said you hated the Old Indy bookends from the London episode, because in my opinion (and probably many others) it's the best. It's quiet emotional and actually added a great ending to the powerful story.
There are some bookends though, I agree with you on that, that are kinda unnecessary. They were just made to state the point of the episode, even though it was clear sometimes. Although I haven't seen that many bookends most of them were ok, unecessary sometimes, but I liked them.
I hoped they would be included as Special Features on the DVDs, but Lucas obviously decided not to. :dead:
gallandro
10-26-2007, 06:52 PM
Well, that's always based on opinion.
I'm kinda surprised you said you hated the Old Indy bookends from the London episode, because in my opinion (and probably many others) it's the best. It's quiet emotional and actually added a great ending to the powerful story.
Sorry, but I thought the London 1916 bookends completely diminished a powerful story of love and loss... two people, genuinely in love separated by world events, complete with a great bittersweet ending. Only to have the impact of that story interrupted by an outrageous moment of coincidence.
I would have rather had Old Indy hear the old lady say "Deeds not words" in passing, and Old Indy convinced that it's Vickey turn to the lady and say "Vicky?" She turns around, and it is not Vickey... at least the melancholy of the moment would have remained intact.
Yancy
Flannery10
10-26-2007, 07:03 PM
You're probably right but you shouldn't forget that Old Indy told the story because he already heard the voice and the powerful tone reminded him of Vicky.
It's also important to remember that almost every film is based on coincidence, although I have to admit it was a little to much in that scene. Still, it's quiet good in my opinion but your idea wasn't bad either.
Did you like the Harrison Ford bookends for Mystery of the Blues, though? Just curious.
Grizzlor
10-26-2007, 07:09 PM
Regardless of opinion, the bookends should have been included as extras. Consumers are looking for such things. Again, why should I, a fan of the series, have to pay $300 for 3 volumes of the show? Why can't at the least they just have sold the DVD's of the episodes? As for interviews, I think that would be a pointless extra. Commentary is what people want. That's where you can hear the film makers and get a further look at their ideas.
Matinee Idyll
10-26-2007, 08:22 PM
My quick review of the Young Indy Vol 1 set... I'll post a more in depth review later:
Picked up the set Tuesday.... FANTASTIC! Great transfers, clean and detailed with vibrant colors, which is great considering the show was shot on 16mm.
Amazing volume of extras. Now bear in mind the documentaries included are geared toward educating kids and getting them interested in history, so they are not exactly super in-depth. But they are well made and will give kids some insight into the episode they just watched. The interactive features on the Bonus Disc are just insane, Lucas really outdid himself... great stuff.
Now some observations: WOW I've forgotten how good this show was, even the early episodes starring Corey Carrier. Carrier is a solid child actor and really holds his own against the adults. The shows are well scripted, well directed, and have outstanding production values. Having said that, Young Indy is not going to be everyone's cup of tea... no fistfights with Nazis or mad Indian cultists, no boulder death traps. Nope Young Indy is more of a coming-of-age show about the events of the early 20th Century which shaped OUR lives.
Yes the Old-Indy bookends are gone... frankly I could care less. For those that claim Lucas is again indulging in revisionism of his work I would suggest you look at what was happening to the show back in 1992-93. By the second season ratings were dropping off precipitously, and in an effort to revitalize the show Lucas and ABC presented three episodes as big TV event "movies" on Sunday night. Those episodes were "Young Indiana Jones and the Mystery of the Blues", "Young Indiana Jones and the Scandal of 1920", and "Young Indiana Jones and the Phantom Train of Doom". The third season would have kicked off with yet another two-hour movie, "Young Indiana Jones and the Hollywood Follies" which aired on the Family Channel.
So it's clear Lucas was moving AWAY from 1 hour episodic television, and moving toward the "made for TV movie" format. Ultimately this mish-mash of 1 and 2 hour episodes would make packaging for syndication difficult. So either you cut the 2 hour episodes in half and create new bookends, or you drop the original bookends and put two 1 hour episodes together as a movie. Ultimately I would like to see the Bookends included as a bonus feature on the final disc set, as well as the original opening credits... we'll see.
Just a note on the first disc movie "My First Adventure," which includes the episode "Egypt, May 1908" and the unaired "Tangier, 1908". Tangiers was actually shot years after the first episode, so Corey Carrier is OBVIOUSLY much older. In fact Lucas shot the sequence which bridges the two episodes in 1997 in Tunisia while shooting TPM. But the Tangier episode is very good... a pretty frank look at slavery in the Middle East, which gets a little dark toward the end... good stuff.
One of the things that has really struck me, having not watched the show in quite a while, is just how good Lloyd Owen is as Indy's dad. Solid actor with great comic timing. He's especially good in "Travels with Father".
My favorites from this set are Vienna 1908 which is part of "Perils With Cupid" and England 1916 which is part of "Love's Sweet Song". Both of these episodes were very well written and directed, and the performances were top notch. In fact, I would even venture to say England 1916 is one of the most well written hours of episodic television I've ever seen. Elizabeth Hurley and Sean Patrick Flannery are exceptional in this episode, and their brief affair feels very genuine.
Also, Princeton 1916 from "Spring Break Adventures", is a favorite and is a great light hearted mystery in the vein of Nancy Drew or the Hardy Boys.
So glad I picked up this set... now I can't wait for Vol 2... bring on the War Years!!!
Yancy
So, how much are Lucasfilm paying you?
Flannery10
10-26-2007, 08:29 PM
So, how much are Lucasfilm paying you?
Come on, I think everyone deserves their right to express their opinion. It's true, that the bookends were good and should have stayed with the films, but that's my opinion, and I know there are many people that disagree with me. And I don't think somebody has to be paid to think the set is good, it really seems to be quiet well.
gallandro
10-26-2007, 09:06 PM
So, how much are Lucasfilm paying you?
Wow, really nice place for Indiana Jones fans to come to... thanks.
Yancy
Rivers
10-27-2007, 12:04 AM
The transition to the second story in disc 1 Cairo 1908 was terrible....They should have just left Young Indiana Jones and the curse of the jackal in its original format instead of splitting it up. Its awful now. They find Demitrios and he says he hid the jackal and they will never find it and.....done!..On to the next story....what??? What a terrible segway into the Tangier slave episode. Yes I know it gets resolved in Spring break adventure, but from a story telling point of view it is down right terrible. Not to mention that Indy is all of a sudden about 5 years older. Awful!!! That story would have been better off as a 1 hour episode on it's own instead of being tied in with Curse of the Jackal. I found that whole disk a huge cluster F@#$.
I enjoyed the slavery story, it was very good, but it does not fit in with the Curse of the Jackal story which is very sloppily left off....
LawgSkrak
10-27-2007, 12:12 AM
Yeah, what's with the " no commentaries" thing? I remember being very disappointed when the movie trilogy didn't have commentaries, now neither does YIJC?
Lazy.
gallandro
10-27-2007, 12:54 AM
Yeah, what's with the " no commentaries" thing? I remember being very disappointed when the movie trilogy didn't have commentaries, now neither does YIJC?
Lazy.
Well considering there's 38 nearly half-hour documentaries on the set, I don't see how anyone could complain about value. Lucas clearly went all out with these sets.
I think the fact there are no commentaries on the discs is very telling, and it's clear Lucas is viewing these discs as teaching tools, not reproductions of what you saw on TV in 1992-93. Lucas has made very clear his intentions and goals for these box sets.
Yancy
Matinee Idyll
10-27-2007, 02:23 AM
Wow, really nice place for Indiana Jones fans to come to... thanks.
Sorry man, just upset one of my favourite shows as a kid has been hacked up into an unrecognisable shadow of itself... Didn't mean to be so rude, my apologies.
Major West
10-27-2007, 06:13 AM
So, how much are Lucasfilm paying you?
Sounds like a perfectly reasonable review to me.
Sorry man, just upset one of my favourite shows as a kid has been hacked up into an unrecognisable shadow of itself... Didn't mean to be so rude, my apologies.
I think we need to put things into perspective. The Bookends were never the meat of this series, and frankly, I and many others never liked them and are glad they were removed.
Matinee Idyll
10-27-2007, 08:28 AM
This ain't just about Old Indy.
However bad you may think the bookends are, the mediocre bridging footage that has been used to replace them is still a few billion times worse. The narrative jumps from episode to episode are bizarre and annoying. Not to mention actors redubbed atrociously in many episodes (I'm looking at you Congo, 1917!), many scenes cut and/or replaced for no logical reason, the wonderful opening titles scrapped... I could go on.
Grizzlor
10-27-2007, 12:59 PM
The missing bookends and the mish-mosh resulting in taking two separate episodes and combining them aside, the biggest beef I have is the price tag and that elements present on every other well done TV DVD set are replaced for documentaries which have nothing to do with the series. I could see maybe 5 mins per episode devoted to the background of the characters, but not half of the discs. Lack of extras pertaining to the series is the problem. I know what Lucas's goal was and that is admirable, but once again he's off in la-la land and not in tune with what DVD watchers want.
Flannery10
10-27-2007, 01:16 PM
I watched "Trenches of Hell" on History Channel this morning. It's great but I was kinda dissappointed by the picture quality, which was exactly like the VHS releases. For those of you, who picked up the set already. Is the quality any better than the VHS releases or was that History Channel's fault?
gallandro
10-27-2007, 02:00 PM
Likely your reception, the set looks fine. Also bear in mind the show was shot on 16mm, not 35mm like most shows so there is inherently going to be a little less detail in the image and more film grain due to the constrains of 16mm film stocks.
Yancy
Flannery10
10-27-2007, 02:22 PM
Good to hear that. Because some scenes were really bad quality, sometimes even worse than the VHS, but I have seen the trailers and videos and i'm confident you're right about the new set being better.
Matinee Idyll
10-27-2007, 08:05 PM
Flannery, they used quite a bit of colourised historical footage in that episode if I recall correctly.
Avilos
10-27-2007, 11:59 PM
Flannery, they used quite a bit of colourised historical footage in that episode if I recall correctly.
Exactly. Some episodes mixed and matched stock footage from many different sources. On the original airings and on video the differences from shot to shot would not be noticeable. But due to the higher resolution of DVD it will be noticed. I think that was unavoidable. This show was produced at the time when video editing first came to be used. Most TV series from that time have this problem on DVD.
As for the bridging footage - I think it is mostly going to be a problem for those who know the original broadcasts very well. Having watched them more than once. I saw the show a few times on ABC. I really became a fan from the 1999/2000 videos and cable airings. I did not find the transitions between stories to distracting. Of course I had nothing to compare them too. But that is going to be the likely reaction from other new viewers too.
Rivers
10-28-2007, 12:26 AM
I never liked the bookends at all either...I feel they really lost Indy's character. They had Indy doing things that were very out of character... ie; Indy going to a hospital for a bee sting. George Halls voice was terrible and had an accent...there are many things wrong with the old Indy segments...But I dont like the hack job re-shoots to fill up the time from the removed old Indy bookends either. They look horrible as you can tell everyone has aged so much in the re-shoots.
I think it would have been better to re-shoot the Old Indy bookends This time being truer to the Indy characteristics with Harrison dressed in make up as a ninety something Indy
Professor Jones
10-28-2007, 08:37 AM
Whether they like or not to all of us, the bookends segment were PART of the serie. Undeletable part, it seems, since we're still speaking about them. So it's not erasing them from the dvd set that will make us forget about them. And anyway I believe that once you've presented a serie in a certain way you should mantain it the way it was when you propose it on DVD.
Just some other of us pointed out, I think that if Lucas came, for some reason, disliking them segment, he should at least give to us the opportunity to have 'em in a bonus feature.
I would have kept the serie in the same way it was presented on tv: the short episode I would have mantained that way, with all their bookends.
Besides, the dvd version of the Starsky&Hutch series didn't felt the need to link the episodes two-by-two in some kind of pretestuous "movies-wannabee".
Flannery10
10-28-2007, 09:52 AM
Flannery, they used quite a bit of colourised historical footage in that episode if I recall correctly.
Yeah, I thought so. I heard about that some time ago and in that case the quality is understandable. I have never seen the episode on VHS, so I wasn't quiet sure, but thanks for your reply.
phantom train
11-13-2007, 11:31 AM
I recently finished watching Volume 1 of the "Young Indiana Jones" DVD set, and was extremely impressed. I saw all of the episodes when they were originally aired on US TV in 1992/1993, and had forgotten how good some of them were.
My thoughts:
* The picture quality/sound on all of these episodes is, overall, superb! Much, much better than the original TV airing and the VHS films from the late 1990's. I was amazed at how much they cleaned the picture up. I remember starting to watch "Travels with Father" on a VHS tape back in the mid 1990's, and not being able to finish watching it because the picture quality was so poor. In watching it now on DVD, it's one of my favorite episodes.
* This is the first time I've seen all of the episodes at once and in order, which is probably the way they were meant to be seen.
* I was surprised that I liked the Correy Carrier episodes as much as I did. I never really cared for these when they first aired, but for some reason I really like them now. It was funny how little Indy kept getting into trouble, and I was especially amused at how he got the better of the would-be horse thief in the China episode.
* I miss the YIJC theme song in the beginning of the episodes (since it's not in any of the tele-films, at least not in it's entirety), but it's cool that they include it on the DVD menu.
* I don't miss the Old Indy (George Hall) bookends. Though it would be interesting to see them on a future DVD set (even though they wouldn't make much sense if taken out of context), they are not necessary and do interrupt the "flow" of the story. They did raise a lot of good questions, though, like: who did Indy marry, and how did he get the eyepatch?
* The only problem I have with these shows are the linking sequences. Most of them are unecessary and jarring, since it was obvious they were filmed at different times. I guess Lucas felt they should be there to connect the various episodes, but they weren't really needed.
* I have to say that I'm glad this show was released on DVD at all - I wanted this on DVD for years, and thought it would never come out. In fact, if there were no new Indiana Jones film coming out next year, I have a strong feeling we would still be waiting for these DVD's, probably indefinitely.
* Lastly, I have to say that, at the time of it's original airing, I thought that "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" was the best TV drama of all time up to that point, and still think so.
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