The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones

[HovitosKing]

Hey, does anyone else here own any of the "Further Adventures of Indiana Jones" comic book series? I personally own #1-10 and #27, but was wondering how good the rest of the series was.

[Indy_Jones88]

i dont own as many as u but i have 12-14 and some others and they r very good. I love reading the indy comics

[Lon]

I have the entire series except for issue #20. I thought I had it and I went through my comic box recently and it's not there. I think the entire series is pretty good. It's not as good as the Dark Horse limited series from the 90s though.

[Junior Jones]

I have the whole run.

There were different writers and artists, so the quality goes up and down.
Overall the series started really strong and after a few years started to loose steam. The first several issues featured shorter 1 and 2 issue story arcs, and toward the end they tried longer storylines that were harder to maintain.

But that's just my opinion.

[Webley]

Wich one has Shorty in it, I got a lot of them and I think thay are cooler than the Dark Horse ones.

[Indyologist]

Originally posted by HovitosKing
Hey, does anyone else here own any of the "Further Adventures of Indiana Jones" comic book series? I personally own #1-10 and #27, but was wondering how good the rest of the series was.

I find it to be an excellent series. Get the rest of them and you'll enjoy them. I still have all of them, of course. It's really too bad that they stopped the series. I have yet to get all the Dark Horse Comics. The ones I have are really good.

[Pan Rado]

Unfortunately, they were never published where I live, and getting them now is probably an adventure worthy of Indiana Jones. Still, I would love to get my hands on them. I mean, come on, Toht's sister? Marion and Indy co-owning a bar in Chicago (I think)? Some interesting stuff here.

Also, was Belloq's brother featured in this?

[Junior Jones]

Originally posted by Pan Rado
Also, was Belloq's brother featured in this?

It's been a while since I read them, but I don't remember any of Belloq's relatives showing up.

His brother Claude did appear in The Eye of the Fates, which was one the "Find Your Fate" books. (He was, of course, looking for revenge.)

[InBanana Jones]

I have fond memories of the Marvel series. The best of the series IMO, were issues 4-5 and 7-10. Especially 9-10, as the Idol makes a reappearance as do the Hovitos. In the days before widespread VCRs and DVD players, the comics were the only outlet for a kid's Indy fix. The comics are usually pretty cheap, so grab them while you can.

[Indy Benson]

I've got a few that I picked up here and there, but nothing close to a complete set.

InBanana Jones: your name if from the Mad Magazine spoof of Raiders, yes?

[InBanana Jones]

Originally posted by Indy Benson
I've got a few that I picked up here and there, but nothing close to a complete set.

InBanana Jones: your name if from the Mad Magazine spoof of Raiders, yes?

You are correct! I have let that April '82 MAD Magazine slip through my fingers several times. My search continues, but the search is often more rewarding than the attainment, no?

I'd be interested in hearing my fellow posters favorite Indy stories from the Marvel series.

[InBanana Jones]

Been re-reading the entire Marvel series from the beginning for the first time in many years. I'm up to #6 right now; not the best, when Indy invests w/ Marion in a nightclub where Frank Sinatra is supposed to perform; funny, since Sinatra was a virtual unknown in 1936! Ah, well, the inspiration & spirit of the Thirties is still there! It's amazing how well most of these stories hold up, in terms of entertainment value. My favorites are easily #4-5:the Stonehenge story; #7-8:the African Amazon w/ the Nazis & Ivan MacGregor; #9-10: the Hovito/Ilsa Toht/Xomec tale) and #15-16: the Captain Katanga story. I still need to fill in some holes in the Marvel collection and will have fun doing so.

[InBanana Jones]

...the villain in #s 7-8 is Ian McIver, not Ian McGregor...:o

[Violet Indy]

I'm searching for all the ones with Marion, particularly #6 with the opening of the Raven's Nest!!!!!!

I do have #2, #5 and #9, one of which has Marion, Sallah and Marcus and the beginnings of a new adventure to do with the gold idol. The marvels are extremely rare down here, so I'd be forever gratiful if anyone can scan the entire comic issues (minus the ads) with the Raven's Nest and emailed to me......

[VP]

I have 'em all in Finnish, plus the film adaptations. Also have a bunch of them for sale, PM me if interested.

[InBanana Jones]

I'm searching for all the ones with Marion, particularly #6 with the opening of the Raven's Nest!!!!!!

I do have #2, #5 and #9, one of which has Marion, Sallah and Marcus and the beginnings of a new adventure to do with the gold idol. The marvels are extremely rare down here, so I'd be forever gratiful if anyone can scan the entire comic issues (minus the ads) with the Raven's Nest and emailed to me......

Marion also tags along in issues #7-8; 17-18 and a few more I can't recall right now. This site has them listed.

Good luck finding the books, I have been having trouble filling the holes in my own collection!:gun:

[Moedred]

When the hunt gets difficult, Marvel usually publishes them together in an 'Essential' black-and-white compendium. I was at the San Diego Comic Con this year and found only a few issues. I'm amazed so many Raveners have them.

[Violet Indy]

I wish they had those 'essentials' down here. It make it a lot easier for us Aussie Indyfans.

[herr gruber]

I have two 1984 Indiana Jones Marvel comics. They are very entertaining but they have not withstood the test of time as the covers are rather tatty. My favourite is about a dragon, it has Indy clinging to the tail of the dragon on the cover. This, to me, is not keeping with the reality of the Jones legacy! Mystical dragons are not going to make an appearance in an Indy film! This is not Lord of the Rings.:eek:

[HovitosKing]

Those Marvel comics started coming out before ToD and LC, so I'm sure they just figured anything with adventure in it would do Indy justice at the time. There was no canon, no Indy legacy.

[mfisher]

I collected these as a kid... dad took me and my brother to the comic book store in Texas every month and we each got to pick up a comic or two... I always got the latest Indy.. and my brother picked up the GI Joe series.. dad always taught us to take care of our books so I actually have every issue of this series still in mint condition.. and yes.. they are far fetched.. but.. they sure were a hell of a lot of fun back then.. so I still like to thumb through them from time to time.. just for the good memories..

[Rivers]

I also picked up all 34 issues while I was a kid. Some of the stories are actually very entertaining. I have good memories about that series and I am confident the new series from Dark Horse will continue to tell quality Indy tales.

[Wu_Han]

Hi all,

In the past year or so I've been sort of catching up on Indy's "expanded universe" to borrow a SW term. The YIJ Chronicles came out on DVD and I'm watching many of them for the first time ever. I've also been getting the various novels. But while I was reading, I remembered the "Further Adventures" comic book series by Marvel. I saw some of the titles and decided I'd like to collect all 34.

Prices for a complete set on ebay are around $80-$90 shipped and picking up individual issues is more expensive then that. The condition is often described as fine. Meanwhile by the end of this year we will have all the Dark Horse comics compiled nicely into Omnibuses that go for $20 and down. Is there any chance of us seeing the Marvel comics get the same treatment?

[Indy fan 235]

I don't think Dark Horse has announced yet if they are going to do the Marvel books in an omnibus yet, but I really hope so.

I'd shop around on ebay, I've seen complete sets of the Marvel run go for much lower than you listed.

Also, if you enjoy the Indy comics, check out Star Wars Tales #19. It has a story where Indiana Jones discovers the Millenium Falcon. It's a pretty cool story.

[phantom train]

DH has mentioned in various press releases that they do plan on releasing the IJ Marvel comics in the Omnibus format, but no dates have been set - I'm guessing because it's too early - they may wait until the 2nd Omnibus is out before they set the release date for the 3rd. Also, the Marvel issues may be in the 4th Omnibus if DH releases the "Young Indiana Jones" chronicles one beforehand.

The bottom-line is that I wouldn't expect the IJ Marvel comics Omnibus until much later in 2008.

[Indy fan 235]

So long as they release them I will be happy.

[LaoCheRules!]

The Marvel series might be 3 Omnibusses just by itsself.

And I believe that they are doing the Young Indy Omnibus before the Marvel ones.

[Edward The Head]

I've owned the whole set so I don't go looking, but still 80-90 isn't that expensive really, that's just over $2 for each. Had I not bought them all I wouldn't have a problem spending that much.

[Perhilion]

Why would Dark Horse do an omnibus with Marvel comics? Isn't that sort of like Pepsi including a free Coca Cola with every bottle?

[yodazone]

Why would Dark Horse do an omnibus with Marvel comics? Isn't that sort of like Pepsi including a free Coca Cola with every bottle?

Well, the Marvel/Indy comics have been out of print since the '80s and Dark Horse holds the rights to release them in trades. Which is good because the old artwork will now be reprinted on newer/higher quality paper and not the old newspaper page format which age and change color over time in comics. The new remastered collection should look awesome in today's glossy printing paper. It's a win win for Indy fans.

:up: :up: :up:

[Indy fan 235]

I'm still having trouble finding the first Omnibus. I checked my comic shop again this week and they still don't have it. I also checked a Borders book store and they don't have it as well.

I have some holes in my Indy comic collection I need to fill. I'm going to get both the Omnibus and the original issues.

[Perhilion]

Barnes & Noble has it.

[Indy fan 235]

Barnes & Noble has it.


Thanks. I have a Barnes & Noble members card I can use on it.

I'll be getting my money's worth out of that this year that is for sure.

[phantom train]

Quote:

"Well, the Marvel/Indy comics have been out of print since the '80s and Dark Horse holds the rights to release them in trades. Which is good because the old artwork will now be reprinted on newer/higher quality paper and not the old newspaper page format which age and change color over time in comics. The new remastered collection should look awesome in today's glossy printing paper. It's a win win for Indy fans."

Absolutely - the new Marvel reprints will look great, if done correctly. They are also the oldest Indy comics out there, so it will have been a long time since people have seen these (longer than the DH Indy comics).

I have a couple of concerns about the Marvel Omnibus collection(s), however:

* First of all, I hope they include all of the great covers, since the DH Omnibus format has historically only included 2-5 of the covers, not all of them.

* Secondly, I hope that this actually does get released. As has been discussed on this forum in previous threads, it's unlikely that this Mavel Omnibus will come out before the end of calendar year 2008. So, hopefully there will still be enough interest at that time to release this, since it will be coming out long after Indy 4 hits theatres.

[Maybe.Not Today]

I just bought the first volume of the DH Omnibus and it's amazing. I forgot how much fun all these issues were.

[yodazone]

I wonder if Dark Horse is going to use the "Omnibus format" or the oversized Trade Collection format for the Indiana Jones/Marvel run.

A few years ago, Dark Horse collected the entire Star Wars Marvel Comics run (107 issues plus the adaptaions) into these great big 7 volume oversized Trades with 20 issues per volume. Those Trades included all the covers and were remastered/printed on better paper. That would be the best way for the Indy Marvel run to go.

http://www.darkhorse.com/search/search.php?frompage=userinput&sstring=star+wars+a+long+time+ago

The newer "Omnibus" books are smaller in size causing shrinkage to the artwork pages!

Hopefully Dark Horse will go for the oversized trade format for the Marvel Comics run instead of the smaller/manga sized omnibus books.

:up: :up: :up:

[indyclone25]

many of (if not all ) may have these comic books made by marvel comics --- i'm going to show the first two issues which i think , may the best two books in the entire series ---isuues 1-2 so if you haven't seen these enjoy and if you have m well i hope this brings back fond memories
http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/indyclone25/

[phantom train]

Great thread! Thanks for posting these pages. I remember reading these first two issues when they first came out back in the early
'80's. The John Byrne script and artwork were excellent - I would have to say these are the best two issues of the Marvel series, and may be the best two Indiana Jones comics ever.

Here's hoping Dark Horse re-colors and reprints this whole series at some point soon! Though the rest of the issues weren't quite as good as the first two Byrne issues, on a whole the series was very good and I enjoyed it more than any of the Dark Horse IJ comics
mini-series.

[Johnny Jones]

Thanks a million, dude! I was too young at the time to get these when they came out. I hope they do release them again, but in the meantime, you're a lifesaver!

[phantom train]

Thanks again for posting the second issue! Great story and art - reading these two issues really brought back memories. I haven't read these in 25+ years, and they really hold up well.

[indyclone25]

i'm glad you enjoyed it --- maybe if enough people want more i'll scan the next issue, let me know

[Johnny Jones]

By all means, YES, that would be great! :whip:
I hope our appreciation makes up for the inconveniences?

[phantom train]

i'm glad you enjoyed it --- maybe if enough people want more i'll scan the next issue, let me know

If you had time to scan the next issue, that would be great - If memory serves, it takes place right after issue #2 (after Indy jumps out of the plane). Thanks again for scanning these issues. I used to have some of these comics, but they're long gone.

[indyclone25]

i'm a bit busy this morning --- we ahd some rough storms here last night -- so i have a bit of cleaning up to do outside but i will have issue three up soon

[Johnny Jones]

Don't feel rushed, this is a volunteer effort on your part after all, and life happens. I'm curious though about why no one is posting here except you, phantom train and I. Does everyone else really already have these comics?

[indyclone25]

it's possible ---- but i figured that anyone who hasn't seen them would enjoy seeing them ---- i have the entire series ---so eventaully this could be a long thread

[Stoo]

I'm curious though about why no one is posting here except you, phantom train and I. Does everyone else really already have these comics?There is a fair amount of members here who have the issues. My series is complete, bought straight from
the rack back in the day. Love 'em! Some great character and stories in there and #1 & 2 are two of the best.

Perhaps some people just take it for granted that almost anything/everything can be found on the 'net?
Ex. the "Secret de la Pyramide" thread. It got 1,500 hits but only a handful of people (yourself included)
participated. Add the fact that there is a percentage of visitors who don't actually talk about Indy at all.

However, if there are Omnibus editions planned for the Marvel series, this thread could have an effect on sales.:eek:

[Johnny Jones]

However, if there are Omnibus editions planned for the Marvel series, this thread could have an effect on sales.:eek:

If that happens, hopefully the moderators will delete the thread or something. I like all these free things but I don't want any of them to go beyond the boundaries of law.:down:

[Lao_Che]

If that happens, hopefully the moderators will delete the thread or something. I like all these free things but I don't want any of them to go beyond the boundaries of law.:down:

Bit too late for that. ;)

I was sure I saw a comment by Jeremy Barlow (the then IJ editor) when browsing the Dark Horse message boards a while back saying that had plans for the Marvel issues but I can't seem to find it.

[yodazone]

Bit too late for that. ;)

I was sure I saw a comment by Jeremy Barlow (the then IJ editor) when browsing the Dark Horse message boards a while back saying that had plans for the Marvel issues but I can't seem to find it.

I remember one of the editors mentioned on the boards last year that they had a hard time finding the original film to the Indy Marvel Comics for reprints. That they might have to resort to cutting up actual comic issues for scanning/remastering.

:eek:

[DIrishB]

If that happens, hopefully the moderators will delete the thread or something. I like all these free things but I don't want any of them to go beyond the boundaries of law.:down:

I was thinking the same thing. However, since as of the moment these haven't been reprinted, it could be argued they're hard to come by due to their age (its been over 20 years since they were released). I'm not sure of the exact legal issues surrounding such a thing, though. However, I know most of the serious Indy fans would probably buy Omnibus editions if they ever were to happen.

In other words, I don't think this one thread will affect sales of a possible Omnibus collection of these issues.

[Lao_Che]

I remember one of the editors mentioned on the boards last year that they had a hard time finding the original film to the Indy Marvel Comics for reprints. That they might have to resort to cutting up actual comic issues for scanning/remastering.

:eek:

That might be the post I was thinking of. :down:

[Violet Indy]

I really, really, really wish they would make an Omnibus for the Further Adventures. I have three issues of them at home, and I enjoy them way more than the DH 90's issues. They're very hard to get and I really want to read all them.... oh, alright, I just want the "Search for Abner", the second issue to the Idol story arc and the "Africa Screams" issues. I couldn't care less for the ones without Marion in it.

[DIrishB]

I really, really, really wish they would make an Omnibus for the Further Adventures. I have three issues of them at home, and I enjoy them way more than the DH 90's issues. They're very hard to get and I really want to read all them.... oh, alright, I just want the "Search for Abner", the second issue to the Idol story arc and the "Africa Screams" issues. I couldn't care less for the ones without Marion in it.

They really should get the Omnibus editions out for these issues.

However, the original issues aren't really that hard to come by. I snagged the full run (all 34 issues in GREAT shape) off Ebay around the time Crystal Skull was released for less than $50. Works out to barely a dollar an issue. I know I might've gotten lucky, but the Marvel issues aren't too hard to find.

Especially in regards to Dark Horse needing to find them to reprint/recolor/etc the Marvel issues. A company that size shouldn't really be facing much of a challenge in finding 34 issues for reprint purposes.

I think in Dark Horse's case its more an issue of getting the rights to reprint material originally printed by Marvel. I'm not sure of the situation with the copyright for those issues: is it still owned by Marvel, or has it gone back to Lucasfilm, do Dark Horse own rights to ALL Indy comics in the US or world, etc. Its confusing as hell.

But yeah, I don't really think the issue with Dark Horse not getting around to reprinting the Marvel Indy comics really has anything to do with finding originals to make those reprints from.

Hell, I'll give them mine if it'd help get the Omnibus editions done. I'd prefer a nicely remastered, Omnibus edition (or two) over the individual issues.

And of course, if you just want to read them, you could always torrent them. I know there are many collections of Indy comics torrents around the web (including the DH comics, the Marvel movie adaptations and the Further Adventures). Of course, I only recommend that if you own the actual issues (wink, wink).

[Violet Indy]

They really should get the Omnibus editions out for these issues.

However, the original issues aren't really that hard to come by. I snagged the full run (all 34 issues in GREAT shape) off Ebay around the time Crystal Skull was released for less than $50. Works out to barely a dollar an issue. I know I might've gotten lucky, but the Marvel issues aren't too hard to find.

Especially in regards to Dark Horse needing to find them to reprint/recolor/etc the Marvel issues. A company that size shouldn't really be facing much of a challenge in finding 34 issues for reprint purposes.

I think in Dark Horse's case its more an issue of getting the rights to reprint material originally printed by Marvel. I'm not sure of the situation with the copyright for those issues: is it still owned by Marvel, or has it gone back to Lucasfilm, do Dark Horse own rights to ALL Indy comics in the US or world, etc. Its confusing as hell.

But yeah, I don't really think the issue with Dark Horse not getting around to reprinting the Marvel Indy comics really has anything to do with finding originals to make those reprints from.

Hell, I'll give them mine if it'd help get the Omnibus editions done. I'd prefer a nicely remastered, Omnibus edition (or two) over the individual issues.

And of course, if you just want to read them, you could always torrent them. I know there are many collections of Indy comics torrents around the web (including the DH comics, the Marvel movie adaptations and the Further Adventures). Of course, I only recommend that if you own the actual issues (wink, wink).

Remember what part of the world I live in. They're hard to come by down here and I am unable to order from the web and being a uni student, trying to save cash. All those factors combined equals hard to get. Supanova's the only time of year I've got half a chance and didn't manage to find any I didn't own, but on the bright side got cards and a Michael Byrne autograph card.

I never knew about the comic torrents though. I never even knew they existed. I have found the LC movie adaptions in a comic store, however I can't find #4, which is really annoying. I do personally prefer owning them, it's a lot cheaper in the long run! And I'm worried that if I track them down now and buy them, that DH will publish the volume and I'm not a fussy collector, but it would peeve me hugely!

[yodazone]

I think in Dark Horse's case its more an issue of getting the rights to reprint material originally printed by Marvel. I'm not sure of the situation with the copyright for those issues: is it still owned by Marvel, or has it gone back to Lucasfilm, do Dark Horse own rights to ALL Indy comics in the US or world, etc. Its confusing as hell.
Dark Horse has the rights to reprint all the Marvel Indy comics. I don't think they're aware of French Editions though. Maybe new members posting over in the DH forums to remind (demand!) them about those issues would help..... :up:


Hell, I'll give them mine if it'd help get the Omnibus editions done. I'd prefer a nicely remastered, Omnibus edition (or two) over the individual issues.


Sometimes they'll ask the fans to help out for really good copies in case they can't find the original film. Earlier this year they needed to reprint a rare Star Wars story that was printed in an old UK only Weekly and one fan fedex'd them a copy and they worked off that.

:)

[indyclone25]

issue 4 is ready------- wow over 300 views i hope the rest of you are enjoying this --- some great stories are in these comics

[Stoo]

O.K. This issue has always made me laugh, personally, because of this:

"That was quick thinking, Indy!"

"Thanks, but Montreal should get the credit. I worked at dig there a few years back.
A subway construction crew uncovered a Seneca indian burial ground. I learned a lot
about Senecas...and subways!"

I LOVED the reference but digging for the subway (metro) only started in the early '60s! Too funny!:D

[phantom train]

Thanks again, indyclone25, for going out of your way to post these issues. The third and fourth issues were also great, and the artwork is exceptional.

To address a concern that others have had, I don't think this thread will affect any potential DH Omnibus sales if they decided to reprint these Marvel issues.
If anything, I suspect seeing these will actually make fans want the issues even more. Speaking for myself, after reading these I'm even more interested in seeing a collection of these Marvel issues re-colored and reprinted on high quality paper.

Since the series ran for only 34 issues (no Annuals), DH could produce only
2-3 Omnibuses for the whole series.
The only concern I have about a potential Omnibus collection is that Dark Horse is notorious for not reprinting all of the covers in these types of collections. We'll see.

[AnnieJones]

I was just wondering,does anyone have the original copies of The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones comics?If so,I was wondering how many of them Marion was in and what was the last year they were together.I'm guessing it would have the year in comic books themselves.

[Violet Indy]

If you take a look at the Indy Lit section, I'm sure you'll be able to find some stuff on the Further Adventures, however I'll answer the question the best I can as I myself have asked the question a while back and Stoo did answer it.

In Volume 1 of the Further Adventures (which covers Raiders adaption and 1-12 issues) Marion's in Raiders (all 4 issues), #6 (which is about the Raven's Nest nightclub), #7, #8 (my personal favourites), #9, #10, #11 and #12. So that's six issues of Marion appearances from June 1982 - Dec 1982. It is implied in most of these that the adventures take place in late 1936, though with the state of the timeline at the moment, I'm more likely to lean towards 1937. The comics don't always state the year in the intro.

As far as I can remember she also appears in #16 and #17 (whichever are the Search for Abner issues, which I am looking very forward to in Volume 2) and there's more I'm sure before her last appearances in #22 and #23 (which I look very forward to seeing in the Omnibuses). The later ones would have to be taking place in 1937 and would work within the years discussed in the Ultimate Guide and in KOTCS.

You can also look at TheRaider.Net's Lit section. They cover all the synopses and covers for the Further Adventure and Dark Horse comics.

[Robyn]

Annie, I have just about all the Further Adventure comics with Marion in it posted at the Indy and Marion site/group, if you want the link just let me know

[Moedred]

Threads merged...

[AnnieJones]

If you take a look at the Indy Lit section, I'm sure you'll be able to find some stuff on the Further Adventures, however I'll answer the question the best I can as I myself have asked the question a while back and Stoo did answer it.

In Volume 1 of the Further Adventures (which covers Raiders adaption and 1-12 issues) Marion's in Raiders (all 4 issues), #6 (which is about the Raven's Nest nightclub), #7, #8 (my personal favourites), #9, #10, #11 and #12. So that's six issues of Marion appearances from June 1982 - Dec 1982. It is implied in most of these that the adventures take place in late 1936, though with the state of the timeline at the moment, I'm more likely to lean towards 1937. The comics don't always state the year in the intro.

As far as I can remember she also appears in #16 and #17 (whichever are the Search for Abner issues, which I am looking very forward to in Volume 2) and there's more I'm sure before her last appearances in #22 and #23 (which I look very forward to seeing in the Omnibuses). The later ones would have to be taking place in 1937 and would work within the years discussed in the Ultimate Guide and in KOTCS.

You can also look at TheRaider.Net's Lit section. They cover all the synopses and covers for the Further Adventure and Dark Horse comics.


Thank you so much for your help.;) It's much appreciated.:hat:

[Stoo]

I was just wondering,does anyone have the original copies of The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones comics?If so,I was wondering how many of them Marion was in and what was the last year they were together.I'm guessing it would have the year in comic books themselves.All of Marion's Marvel appreances take place in 1936. She's in #6-12, #14, #16, #17-18, #20-23 and 25. (She is also mentioned in #16.) You should buy the Ominbus edition, Annie. It's well worth it!

In Volume 1 of the Further Adventures (which covers Raiders adaption and 1-12 issues) Marion's in Raiders (all 4 issues), #6 (which is about the Raven's Nest nightclub), #7, #8 (my personal favourites), #9, #10, #11 and #12. So that's six issues of Marion appearances from June 1982 - Dec 1982. It is implied in most of these that the adventures take place in late 1936, though with the state of the timeline at the moment, I'm more likely to lean towards 1937. The comics don't always state the year in the intro.

As far as I can remember she also appears in #16 and #17 (whichever are the Search for Abner issues, which I am looking very forward to in Volume 2) and there's more I'm sure before her last appearances in #22 and #23 (which I look very forward to seeing in the Omnibuses). The later ones would have to be taking place in 1937 and would work within the years discussed in the Ultimate Guide and in KOTCS....Just had another look and I made a mistake about #23 being her last.:o She's also in #25 (but not with Indy, she is pissed at him). After that chapter, it's "Adios, muchachos!" for Marion! As for the dates, only the last few (#31-34) are in 1937. #30 says "circa 1936". Hope that helps.:)

[AnnieJones]

Annie, I have just about all the Further Adventure comics with Marion in it posted at the Indy and Marion site/group, if you want the link just let me know


Yes please.:)
And thanks so much for your help.:hat:

[AnnieJones]

All of Marion's Marvel appreances take place in 1936. She's in #6-12, #14, #16, #17-18, #20-23 and 25. (She is also mentioned in #16.) You should buy the Ominbus edition, Annie. It's well worth it!

...Just had another look and I made a mistake about #23 being her last.:o She's also in #25 (but not with Indy, she is pissed at him). After that chapter, it's "Adios, muchachos!" for Marion! As for the dates, only the last few (#31-34) are in 1937. #30 says "circa 1936". Hope that helps.:)

Yes,it does help.Thank you Stoo.:hat:

[Robyn]

Yes please.:)
And thanks so much for your help.:hat:


You're welcome! The comics are in the links section, you have to join the group to get to the links, but if you really can't stand to join, just email me and I can get you the links to the comics separate :)

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/MarionRavenwoodJones/

[The Tingler]

You know what? This really surprised me with how good it is. It's amazing that with just one film to go off, these comic makers really nailed Indy! Then again, that film was Raiders and so many others have been trying to replicate it without success since its release...

[Robyn]

These are the comics I have the links for, if anyone hasn't read any of these yet..

Africa Screams part 1

Africa screams part 2

Club Nightmare

The Fourth Nail part 1

The Fourth Nail part 2

The Search for Abner part 1

The Search for Abner part 2

The Secret of the Deep

[Violet Indy]

All of Marion's Marvel appreances take place in 1936. She's in #6-12, #14, #16, #17-18, #20-23 and 25. (She is also mentioned in #16.) You should buy the Ominbus edition, Annie. It's well worth it!

...Just had another look and I made a mistake about #23 being her last.:o She's also in #25 (but not with Indy, she is pissed at him). After that chapter, it's "Adios, muchachos!" for Marion! As for the dates, only the last few (#31-34) are in 1937. #30 says "circa 1936". Hope that helps.:)

Well it's good to know that the money I pay for the next omnibus will be well worth it!!! :up:

#25, huh? I suppose I would be expecting too much if Colin Williams was in that issue :p .

[Jono11]

I have the full run in .cbr files on a backup DVD somewhere. All the Indy comics, actually (I think. All the English-language ones, at any rate.)

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Further Adventures as Indy stories. They're some of the best adventure comics of the time, if you just read them as adventure stories. Not too heavy on that hoary old clunker of an albatross around the neck of basically all comics pre-Moore/Morrison/Ellis known as exposition. The dialogue is killer--the series hooked me immediately with (I think) the first issue, a Spear of Destiny story which starts with Indy wrestling Adolf Hitler for the Spear. Or something like that. Been awhile since I read it. Anyway, there was some great dialogue in that scene that hooked me immediately. Something to the effect of Hitler saying "GIVE IT TO ME NOW" and Indy going "No! Wait, what are we talking about?" And another scene when Indy says, a little too loudly, something about the spear, then realizes everyone is looking at him kind of Nazily, and tries to cover it up by saying, "Uh, beer! Don't think I'll be needing another one!"

But I didn't see them as Indy stories. Obviously, they are, but I didn't really feel like they nailed any of the characters as the unique people that they are. Indy was just another comic book protagonist. He didn't talk like Indy. The examples I just cited are also examples of that problem: it just doesn't feel like Indy. (Come to think of it, it feels a lot like Han Solo.)

[ResidentAlien]

I have the full run in .cbr files on a backup DVD somewhere. All the Indy comics, actually (I think. All the English-language ones, at any rate.)

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Further Adventures as Indy stories. They're some of the best adventure comics of the time, if you just read them as adventure stories. Not too heavy on that hoary old clunker of an albatross around the neck of basically all comics pre-Moore/Morrison/Ellis known as exposition. The dialogue is killer--the series hooked me immediately with (I think) the first issue, a Spear of Destiny story which starts with Indy wrestling Adolf Hitler for the Spear. Or something like that. Been awhile since I read it. Anyway, there was some great dialogue in that scene that hooked me immediately. Something to the effect of Hitler saying "GIVE IT TO ME NOW" and Indy going "No! Wait, what are we talking about?" And another scene when Indy says, a little too loudly, something about the spear, then realizes everyone is looking at him kind of Nazily, and tries to cover it up by saying, "Uh, beer! Don't think I'll be needing another one!"

But I didn't see them as Indy stories. Obviously, they are, but I didn't really feel like they nailed any of the characters as the unique people that they are. Indy was just another comic book protagonist. He didn't talk like Indy. The examples I just cited are also examples of that problem: it just doesn't feel like Indy. (Come to think of it, it feels a lot like Han Solo.)



Uhm... isn't that scene you described from Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny? That's a Dark Horse comic. I do recall Indy having an hallucination after collapsing in a cave where he's excavating... I believe the hallucination featured Hitler at least. Anyway, that's not a Further Adventures story.

[Jono11]

Uhm... isn't that scene you described from Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny? That's a Dark Horse comic. I do recall Indy having an hallucination after collapsing in a cave where he's excavating... I believe the hallucination featured Hitler at least. Anyway, that's not a Further Adventures story.OK, now I have to go back and check.

Well shave me bald and call me hairy, you're right. Wonder why I misremembered that as Further Adventures. Weird. Anyway, I still stand by the general gist of what I thought of Further Adventures. And, for the record, I did also feel that way about quite a few of the Dark Horse comics. I remember liking Shrine of the Sea Devil the best, I think. Again, it's been ages.

[UIMJ]

The final issue of this series is so hard to find in any grade, let alone high grade. You guys can have the Omnibus - but I want the real, underprinted comics. :)

[Indy's Fist]

The final issue of this series is so hard to find in any grade, let alone high grade. You guys can have the Omnibus - but I want the real, underprinted comics. :)
I have those. I collected them over a three year period. I went from comic shop to comic shop and pieced not one but two collections together! I won't even touch the Omnibus. I love the original prints.

[punisher5150]

So was Issue 35 ever printed? I heard there was an issue 35 but it never got printed due to poor sales? Does anyone have the answer? And will the Omnibus have it?

[Stoo]

So was Issue 35 ever printed? I heard there was an issue 35 but it never got printed due to poor sales? Does anyone have the answer? And will the Omnibus have it?*If* it does exist (complete/incomplete) it would be a genuine treat to see it in Omnibus 3 but I'm not holding my breath. I bought these religiously from the rack every month at Perrette's (a chain of convenience stores that is long gone) and can assure you that the series ended at #34.

[Indy's Fist]

So was Issue 35 ever printed? I heard there was an issue 35 but it never got printed due to poor sales? Does anyone have the answer? And will the Omnibus have it?
According to every source I have checked there never was an issue #35 produced. Ebay has no issue #35 for sale anywhere and even on this site #34 was the last issue. In fact #34 was the last of a three part story. If anything #35 was one of those issuses that may have been made by Marvel writers and/or artists, just the series was ended before printing. That is if it was even finished.

[Indy's Fist]

*If* it does exist (complete/incomplete) it would be a genuine treat to see it in Omnibus 3 but I'm not holding my breath. I bought these religiously from the rack every month at Perrette's (a chain of convenience stores that is long gone) and can assure you that the series ended at #34.
Ah, the good old days! The ride up to the store, the smile on one's face upon finding the treasure, the smell of the comic....it will never be like it used to.

[punisher5150]

I know there were plans for one because I had a subscription to the comic. There was no mention of the series ending. About the time I should have received issue 35, a letter came in the mail wanting to know what comic I wanted to change my subscription to because the series had been cancelled. It's funny because if you scour issue 34 there is NO mention at all of the series ending. For several months afterward, the elusive issue number 35 showed up in the Mile High Comics adds in the back of various comic books. I ordered it, along with the scattered issues I had missed between buying off the comic rack at the local grocer and the subscription I had, but got a letter back saying out of stock. The funny thing is, I got the subscription somewhere around number 30, so I only got a few issues before it was cancelled. I can't describe to you my dissapointment, because even then I was a HUGE Indiana Jones fan. VCRs were fairly new technology, and my family couldn't afford one. I owned the videotape for raiders, but could not watch it because we didn't have a VCR to play it in.

I heard a black and white version from the artist made it around a few comic shows, but that might have been just rumors. Anyway, maybe Dark Horse will contact the writer/artist and see if anything remains (storyboards, outlines, etc) but I have a feeling it is truly lost, if it ever did exist.

[Jono11]

Back in the day, comics would get cancelled that way all the time, with little or no warning. Today, the cancellation notices come months in advance, but in those days, the business was a little more cold about it--often cancelling books in the middle of extended plotlines, or even in the midst of a story arc. There were no write-in campaigns to save the book, no fan outcries. Just the end.

Given the quickness with which these decisions were made back then (especially by the notoriously cutthroat Marvel), there probably was a scripted, pencilled, and lettered Further Adventures #35. There was probably substantial work done on #36, in fact. And we'll probably never see much of either of them. There are hundreds of unpublished comics out there, but most of them leak to the public in scraps and pieces; there's a major effort ongoing to restore a comic from the freakin' 1940s. The restoration effort started over 40 years ago. It can take that long. The pages get split up and auctioned off by the companies or an enterprising intern, or even the artist himself. The scripts get tossed in the trash. Readers rarely ever get a chance to see much of the full product.

[JuniorJones]

I'm not sure but wasn't it advertised in Marvel Age along with the cancellation?

[Rocket Surgeon]

Dark Horse has some reprints of Marvel's INDIANA JONES comics of the 1980s. They don't specify exactly which issues so I'm not sure which Ditko issues are included, but presumably at least the first one, #21. He did eight in all, so the bulk of them would probably appear in a hypothetical volume 3.

[Jono11]

Dark Horse has some reprints of Marvel's INDIANA JONES comics of the 1980s. They don't specify exactly which issues so I'm not sure which Ditko issues are included, but presumably at least the first one, #21. He did eight in all, so the bulk of them would probably appear in a hypothetical volume 3.I always forget Ditko was involved with FA. Judging from the time period, this would be "Shallow, pedantic objectivist ramblings" Ditko, rather than "Annoying, un-heroic, but basically tolerable bug-themed superhero" Ditko.

[twlightzone1205]

I need to go back and double check, but wasn't there a letter printed in the one of the last few issues, where a reader asked about Marion and the editor replied stating to "Look for Marion's return in #35"? It's fun to go back and read the old "Readers of the Lost Ark" letter pages, something you don't get in the Omnibuses.

[twlightzone1205]

I'm not sure but wasn't it advertised in Marvel Age along with the cancellation?
I always assumed it was canceled to make room for much then hyped New Universe line of titles for 1986. Probably the same reason for Star Wars ending that year as well.

[Stoo]

I need to go back and double check, but wasn't there a letter printed in the one of the last few issues, where a reader asked about Marion and the editor replied stating to "Look for Marion's return in #35"? It's fun to go back and read the old "Readers of the Lost Ark" letter pages, something you don't get in the Omnibuses.GREAT memory, twlightzone1205!:hat: Punisher5150, Jono11 & yourself were dead-on. Issue #35 was in the works! Here are 2 pertaining replies from "Readers of the Lost Ark", Issue #32 c.Nov 1985.

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Dear Marvel,

I liked your bringing Short Round back into the picture. I think that he should appear more often. As for Marion, I feel that Indy should have a break from her and get into some real rough and tough adventures. Indy doesn't need Marion always looking down his shoulder.

Elaine McFarland
777 Keeling Rd.
North Pole, AK 99705

As you know by now, Elaine, Marion walked out on Indy in issue #25, and so far he's doing just fine without her.

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Dear Indy People,

Back in issue #25, Marion left, and we haven't seen her since. Where did she go?

Maggie Probert
Sanger, CA 93657

This is just what we've been wondering, Maggie, and we'll all find out together in issue #35. Don't miss it!

So there we have it. Further evidence that a Marvel Indy, No. 35 was on the table!:up:

[Indy's Fist]

GREAT memory, twlightzone1205!:hat: Punisher5150, Jono11 & yourself were dead-on. Issue #35 was in the works! Here are 2 pertaining replies from "Readers of the Lost Ark", Issue #32 c.Nov 1985.

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Dear Marvel,

I liked your bringing Short Round back into the picture. I think that he should appear more often. As for Marion, I feel that Indy should have a break from her and get into some real rough and tough adventures. Indy doesn't need Marion always looking down his shoulder.

Elaine McFarland
777 Keeling Rd.
North Pole, AK 99705

As you know by now, Elaine, Marion walked out on Indy in issue #25, and so far he's doing just fine without her.

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Dear Indy People,

Back in issue #25, Marion left, and we haven't seen her since. Where did she go?

Maggie Probert
Sanger, CA 93657

This is just what we've been wondering, Maggie, and we'll all find out together in issue #35. Don't miss it!

So there we have it. Further evidence that a Marvel Indy, No. 35 was on the table!:up:
But where did it go? Was it near completion? I know that a few years ago a Dracula comic adaptation was finally completed. It was done sparaticly in the 1970's but it was never finished, until a few years ago. The whole thing was made into a 4 issuse release and it was finished by the original artist & writer! Maybe they could release this 35th issue of Indy the same way!

[Jono11]

As has been noted earlier, it's very unlikely that we'll get to see that #35, and if Dark Horse had it, you can bet they'd have been trumpeting that news for all the world. Nothing the comic book world loves more than unpublished work finally seeing the light of day (hence the inexplicably good sales for that finally-published Ghost Rider #94 that hit sometime in the last couple years.)

Not sure what the Dracula comic is that you're referring to, but in general, in the 70s and much of the 80s, work that didn't get published didn't survive. I remember finally seeing 10 or so pages of the sequel to Fallen Angels (critically acclaimed X-Men spinoff, one of the early ones that was actually good) and being ecstatic--because 10 pages, from a comic that was once basically completed, is a gold mine.

But I will keep crossing my fingers and toes. I would be in love with life forever if someone unearthed that #35. Not to mention whatever material there is on #36, which I'm now totally convinced was at least plotted, and maybe even thumbnailed or pencilled, depending on how the artist did his work. #35 looks to be kicking off some sort of serious subplot. I think #36 would have had to have at least been plotted, and someone, somewhere probably knows about plans for several more issues after that.

If there's one guy who can solve this mystery, it's Brian Cronin at Comic Book Legends Revealed. I'll email him straightaway. I've tipped him on some good leads, and he's always followed up amazingly. Expect to hear something on this sooner or later.

[Violet Indy]

OMG! You've got to be kidding me. Marion was going to come back in #35?!!!

Someone should tell ronicle....

In any case, I wonder how we could get our hands on some info like a storyline...

[yodazone]

Does anyone remember who were the creative teams slated for issue #35 or #36?

Maybe there's a chance that the original artists/inkers/colorists still have those pages hidden somewhere.

Would be cool to see those pages posted on comicartfans.com along with the other original Indy comic art posted on there:

http://comicartfans.com/

(type in "Indiana Jones" in the search box on the upper right to view original Indy art pages) :gun:

I'm not sure but wasn't the Marvel Indy series running bi-monthly towards the last 5-8 issues of the run?

:confused:

[Crack that whip]

Indeed it was.

[Jono11]

Who was the creative team on the last few issues? Was there any indication that there was going to be a change between #34 and #35? If not, it would be worth trying to contact the creators that worked on #34.

[kongisking]

You know what? This really surprised me with how good it is. It's amazing that with just one film to go off, these comic makers really nailed Indy! Then again, that film was Raiders and so many others have been trying to replicate it without success since its release...

I bought the Marvel Omnibus a few weeks ago, as I was thrilled at the chance to have the very first expanded-universe Indy material. I've never read these comics before, and I am a big-ass Marvel geek (DC can sniff it!). And you know what I think?

[Jono11]

I am a big-ass Marvel geek (DC can sniff it!). And you know what I think?Wow, I guess DC will just have to be content with being the only traditional-style comics publisher to have any critical acclaim and literary/artistic merit.

[Ignatius Stone]

I bought every issue of Further Adventures back in the day, right up until its abrupt and unceremonious end!
I think the first two John Byrne issues are still my favourites.

[kongisking]

Wow, I guess DC will just have to be content with being the only traditional-style comics publisher to have any critical acclaim and literary/artistic merit.

Blah. The only truly great thing that has come out of DC is good ol' Batman (along with his rogues gallery). Superman? What a one-dimensional goody-two-shoes!!! Robin? The very antithesis of everything Batman stands for (He doesn't need a kid helping him out! Look at Begins and Dark Knight, and tell me if Bats can't tear Gotham's criminals a new a-hole by himself! Pointless child pandering!).

But Marvel... Oh, God, Marvel. They've got, uh, let's count them off:

Iron Man

Hulk

Spider-Man

Daredevil

Nick Fury

The Fantastic Four

The Transformers (rarely mentioned as part of the official universe, but there actually was an official comic book series produced by Marvel about everyone's favorite ass-kicking 'bots.)

Captain America (HOLY CHRIST! CAPTAIN FREAKIN' AMERICA, PEOPLE!!!)

Thor

Hank Pyme

The whole Ultimate Marvel imprint

Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, John Romita Sr. & Jr., Todd McFarlane, etc.

Marvel one-ups DC in every conceivable way, other than the aforementioned Caped Crusader. No denyin' it.

BTW, This isn't an attack on DC and it's fans. Just my possibly-worthless opinion. Nothing personal, guys...:hat: :o