View Full Version : LC - Ever Wonder..?
LaoChe
06-21-2004, 10:40 PM
Y'know, I could never figure out why, in Last Crusade, Indy discovers that the catacombs leading to the knights tomb were filled with petrol - then continues to make a flaming bleedin' TORCH!?!? The thing is dripping fire balls into the water yet they don't ignite.
But when one of the brotherhood of the cruciform sword drops a match into the liquid it erupts in a blaze!
Ever wonder...?
Indy's_main_man
06-21-2004, 10:58 PM
This has been talked about for a long time. Sure...it's a flaw...but it's just a movie. It could have been digitally fixed during the process of making the DVDs but i think that would have been dumb.
grumpus
06-21-2004, 11:18 PM
its just a simple flaw, but its better that they didnt edit it out, so we can have the movie how its supposed to be
Indy's_main_man
06-21-2004, 11:25 PM
If we really want to disect this logically we could say the embers burnt out before touching the petrolium...
But really...if you have a torch there has to be some sparks falling at some point. it just happens.
grumpus
06-21-2004, 11:32 PM
hmmmm im going to go with they burned out before touching the flamable stuff, that works for me
LaoChe
06-22-2004, 12:18 AM
I'll roll with the burnt out thing too, but it just doesn't strike me as a very 'intelligent' move for DOCTOR Jones.
Lighting a BLAZING fire torch in the middle of a PETROL FIELD.
Since they were pretty much right off the boat, why wouldn't he have brought a flash light? Simple script adjustment.
Ahh, well, don't get me wrong, I love Indy, and I forgive it for all the great things Last Crusade gave me, but as a screenwriter myself (budding, by no means professional) I just can't ignore those things...
IndyGirl821
06-22-2004, 12:41 AM
whoa, i didnt even notice that! im stupid... :( :) but if it was just a flaw, by editing it, they would of screwed up the scene.
How many times we do see the drippings actually drop into the petroleum itself anyway?
For the time they make it to the burial chamber, the torch doesn't seem to drip a bit, and it begins just after that. And every time it does, at least a person with a vivid imagination can see a casket or something else being on the way all the time.
But the main point being that Dr. Jones does not think about what he's doing... I agree. Not very wise first... then not very funny.
Indyologist
06-22-2004, 08:55 AM
Chalk it up to movie magic, where logic is hilariously suspended for 2 hours...
Nicely said. It <i>does</i> look more cool on screen when Indy is carrying a torch, not a flashlight.
Renderking Fisk
06-22-2004, 09:38 AM
"Shut you eyes... don't look... keep your eyes shut!" http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Vanquish738/e53e9f10.gif
Lightning
06-22-2004, 03:25 PM
Actually it is very plausible that the petroleum didn't catch on fire from the torch drippings. In order for petroleum to ignite, it has to be a vapor. The bubbles at the point where the petroleum was coming out of the ground was natural gas (methane). That is what the match set off. The resulting explosion was hot enough to begin to vaporise the liquid petroleum and burn it.
The oil that was floating on top of the water can't be set off by a flame from the torch alone. Oil doesn't evaporate like gasoline, so there was no vapor to set off the petroleum once they got away from the natural gas.
LaoChe
06-22-2004, 03:27 PM
YES!!!!
Thank you thank you thank you!
And of course Indy knew that because he's a doctor!
That works. I'm satisfied. Thanks again!!!!
grumpus
06-22-2004, 03:52 PM
ahhhhh, i like, now no more wondering for me
Originally posted by LaoChe
And of course Indy knew that because he's a doctor! He has a doctorate in physics too? :rolleyes:
grumpus
06-22-2004, 06:17 PM
hmmm possibly, or he is just one really samrt dude. besides, who doesnt know all that stuff about petrol and what not, i mean really, i knew that i just didnt want to say anything.
indyflys_solo
03-29-2008, 10:42 PM
hmmm possibly, or he is just one really samrt dude. besides, who doesnt know all that stuff about petrol and what not, i mean really, i knew that i just didnt want to say anything.
Of course he's one smart dude, it's Indiana Jones.
And I agree... any pyro worth their salt knows that stuff about petroleum. Actually, what's always bothered me most was that Indy definitely ruined a skeleton by borrowing its femur for his torch. If anyone has read "Young Indy: Tomb of Terror", there's one point where he doen't even want to use a piece of old cloth to hide his Egyptian ring from Von Trappen (the villain)... perhaps his puritanical views of archaeology mellowed somewhat since meeting Abner Ravenwood? Oops, sorry... that's another thread entirely. ;)
Nurhachi1991
03-29-2008, 10:44 PM
yeah i thought the torch embers would ignite
The_Raiders
03-29-2008, 10:50 PM
I always wondered how Indy could swim in the petrolium with his eyes open, wouldn't that burn/sting his eyes? :confused: :dead:
Nurhachi1991
03-29-2008, 10:51 PM
I always wondered why the petrolium was as clear as spring water
Kingsley
03-29-2008, 11:10 PM
Nicely said. It <i>does</i> look more cool on screen when Indy is carrying a torch, not a flashlight.
Times, they are changing.
No Ticket
03-30-2008, 04:36 AM
I always wondered if it's okay to open your eyes when swimming in the petrolium. Since Dr. Jones does that when he goes under.
I always wondered if it's okay to open your eyes when swimming in the petrolium. Since Dr. Jones does that when he goes under. Chemistry 101. All substances don't mix, water and petroleum for example. Being the less thicker substance, the petrol stays on top. So where Dr. Jones dives, there's zero petrol, only lots of dirty sewer water.
What exactly did you do in school?
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