Snake Surprise? No reaction from Dr. Jones?

[Indyologist]

One thing I just recalled that surprised me in Temple of Doom was that they didn't show Indy's reaction at all to the "Snake Surprise" during the banquet scene. You'd think they'd at least get a facial reaction of disgust from Indy about THAT. I thought that was a odd thing for them to exclude. They missed a perfect opportunity to get a good laugh from the audience.

[Henry Jones, Sr]

That's very true, however, I think they probably saw it enough to show Willie's disgust. ;)

[Indyologist]

True, but Indy's the one who can't stand SNAKES, remember?

[fatima]

I guess that Indy made an effort to not notice to others his disgust for the snake surprise, since he was busy talking....and that was his brave image that could be in cause, like they could laugh of Indy if they noticed he fears a dead sneak...so he rather igonored.

[Raffey]

He's in a room full of people so he wouldn't be afraid...its common psychology of the mind.

You can be deathly afraid of something, by yourself, but instantly put a dozen people next to you and suddenly you're not.

[Indy's_main_man]

Or Maybe it's because he's used to being places where they serve things like that. And of course he knows the big snake, the threat to his life, is dead. The babies are harmless.

that plus all of these elements mentioned already probably explain it.

Plus Indy, in this scene, was portrayed as a scholor and they left all the shrieking and freaking out to Willie

[Pale Horse]

As I understand the scene, The snake (I am sure some form of python an snake lover on the board will identify for us) was the carcass that held the actual dinner. Eels (or possible sea snakes, as it is very hard to tell the difference). You actually wouldn't let them slide down your throat either (which is why you don't see him finish the dangeling one) You are supposed to slit the throat, drink the blood and then dice them raw, sprinkle with a bit of soy sauce, and eat the wriggling remenants.

It's called the butterfly of life and it is an aphrodisiac in many of the Southeast Asian countries. Where they would get either species in the heart of India though, could be up for another discussion.

I found the whole scene greatly misplaced with quite a bit of unnecessary exposition. The fact that no one had noticed Indy's lack of reaction until surpried me.

What a great topic Indyologist. It definately goes against type in my handbook....

[Indyologist]

Butterfly of life, huh? I'll have to look that up. Glad you like the thread topic. It's something that always kind of bugged me.

[Indy's_main_man]

Indyologist, you've been starting some great, thought provoking, threads lately...Is it the new Avatar perhaps?

[Indy_Jones88]

Its simply mind over matter. If you tell yourself that it will be ok it probably will be. Indy told himself that the snake was dead and everything was fine, so it was

Yes a great thread indeed indiologist

[the hammer42]

To me it looked like he did not react to the snake, because he wanted to make the prime minister nervous.
Not that he did not wanne react but if he did he would never have seen that something was wrong with the prime minister.
Who tried so hard to hyde something.

[grumpus]

or he didnt react because then everyone would know, and he serectly knew that the people were thugges and if they knew they would do something with snakes to him before he drank the blood. and since he didnt want something terrible like that he just plain didnt show that he hated snakes.

[Indy Canuck]

Funny, never thought of all that...

But I always thought that the squimy things were eels, the way they were so slimy (snakes aren't) and the way they made strange squeaky noises (snakes hiss at best).

[matthiassatlure]

Here's my theory.

Indy has a bit of a mixed personality. His adventurous side (the one wearing "Indy gear", and on rare occasion a white tux with a red bowtie) is different from his academic side (the tweeds and glasses). I suppose when he is in "adventure mode", his phobias of snakes is increased, probably because he fell into the pit of snakes as a kid in "adventure mode". Also, the likelyhood of encountering a dangerous snake is far greater in that mode. In his academic mode, like while teaching and during the banquet in Temple of Doom, he might have grown immune to the presence of snakes since he doesn't normally see them while in a relatively safe presence of mind.

Kinda weird, right? Well, I thought of this while watching the Fourth of July fireworks in Boston, so any randomness ought to be forgiven :)

[Katarn07]

The snake was dead, eels were inside. That's what I got out of it. I wondered that too but I realized the things coming out weren't snakes.

Also, I don't think you can hide a phobia from people. When I went to the museum on field trips, there was no way anyone would get me to look over any railings of the balconies. Yes, I'm an acrophobic and an extreme one at that. I stand far away from the edge against the wall tensed up with my heart pounding. I also won't go to the third floor of my school via the main stair case that is exposed on either side and allows you to look all the way down to the ground floor even if my friends go that way. I'm taking the long way, buddy! :p

There's no way Indy could have faked not minding a snake. He'd at least look squeemish and attempt to tolerate it like he does in RotLA in the Well of Souls.

[Johan]

I'm sure Indy has seen worse, and eaten a lot of it...I don't think he would show suprise at the snakes...but you know he wouldn't go near them either

[Ivo]

Originally posted by Raffey
He's in a room full of people so he wouldn't be afraid...its common psychology of the mind.

You can be deathly afraid of something, by yourself, but instantly put a dozen people next to you and suddenly you're not.

That's about the best explanation in this whole thread. I agree completely...

[Indyologist]

Originally posted by Indy's_main_man
Indyologist, you've been starting some great, thought provoking, threads lately...Is it the new Avatar perhaps?

Ooh, why THANK you Mr. Main Man, you sweetiekins, you! I guess inquiring minds like my own like to know. I find Indy is an unlimited source of interesting information! Thus, my field of study... Indyology.

[Indyologist]

Originally posted by Katarn07

Also, I don't think you can hide a phobia from people. When I went to the museum on field trips, there was no way anyone would get me to look over any railings of the balconies. Yes, I'm an acrophobic and an extreme one at that. I stand far away from the edge against the wall tensed up with my heart pounding. I also won't go to the third floor of my school via the main stair case that is exposed on either side and allows you to look all the way down to the ground floor even if my friends go that way. I'm taking the long way, buddy! :p


I know this is OT, but I am SO glad to hear that I'm not the only one that is freaked out by heights-- especially heights involving stairs! Omigosh, I was the same way in school, Katarn! I used the ONE staircase in the whole school that I "learned" to tolerate. I was able to use the elevator when I went to high school. I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I thought I was some kind of freak! I admire you for being able to hide your fear so well. Not me-- I'm plainly, clearly chickenhearted when it comes to my fears, usually.

[Indyologist]

Originally posted by Pale Horse
As I understand the scene, The snake (I am sure some form of python an snake lover on the board will identify for us) was the carcass that held the actual dinner. Eels (or possible sea snakes, as it is very hard to tell the difference). You actually wouldn't let them slide down your throat either (which is why you don't see him finish the dangeling one) You are supposed to slit the throat, drink the blood and then dice them raw, sprinkle with a bit of soy sauce, and eat the wriggling remenants.

It's called the butterfly of life and it is an aphrodisiac in many of the Southeast Asian countries. Where they would get either species in the heart of India though, could be up for another discussion.

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Found this online in reference to the Butterfly of Life which is called "Mariposa de al vida."

Snakes for the Gourmet

Over the ages and all over the world, people of both past and present have considered the flesh of snakes to have magical properties, serving as medicine or, in the case of a Manila restaurant, Mariposa de la Vida (Butterfly of Life), as an aphrodisiac. The guest may select a live sea snake from the management's aquarium and have an "exotic" dish prepared from it, to be served at his table. In other parts of the world, some customers would order a live specimen, slit its throat, and drink the blood. Following this aperitif, the still-wriggling snake was diced and eaten raw, with soy sauce.

For the true gourmet, there is an entree called Sea Snake Adobo. The sliced meat is soaked in vinegar, then in soy sauce mixed with a combination of pimento and garlic, for fifteen minutes. The mixture is then boiled in a solution of soda for a half-hour, after which it is drained, fried and garnished with pickles, onions, and tomato al gusto. An alleged aphrodisiac, though to the weak of stomach more likely an emetic, the gall bladder is chugalugged with a glass of wine. In the case of a non-drinker, three dried gall bladders may be blended in coffee and then consumed. Yummy!

[Wolfshead]

I always thought that he was so busy talking to, and testing, Chatter Lal that he didn't even notice what was going on at the rest of the table until the monkey head was put in front of him.

[Chattar Lal]

Originally posted by Wolfshead
I always thought that he was so busy talking to, and testing, Chatter Lal that he didn't even notice what was going on at the rest of the table until the monkey head was put in front of him.

Why did you mention my name?

[VP]

Why not? Besides, he didn't say your name. Your name is Chattar Lal, he said Chatter Lal. ;) I'm pretty sure he was talking about this guy:

http://www.theraider.net/films/todoom/gallery/screens/t54.jpg

http://raven.theraider.net/images/avatars/250/chattar_lal.gif

[Finn]

Originally posted by Chattar Lal
Why did you mention my name? :rolleyes: ...veery funny.

[Chattar Lal]

Originally posted by Wolfshead
I always thought that he was so busy talking to, and testing, Chatter Lal that he didn't even notice what was going on at the rest of the table until the monkey head was put in front of him.

My joke was so not funny, and I also agree with Wolfshead...

What is the correct spelling Chatter or Chattar?

[vaxer]

Originally posted by Chattar Lal
My joke was so not funny

yeah but at least it taught me who Chatter lal was, I had no idea it was a character from the films. :o :)

[Chattar Lal]

Does Chatter Lal die in Temple of Doom? If not, maybe he could be in Indy 4...

[VP]

It's Chattar. If I remember correctly, Mr. Lal doesn't die in ToD. The cage wheel just hits him. I guess that the Brits got him.

[Indy Benson]

I dunno, that wheel looks pretty heavy.
In the ToD novelization, Lal dies in the lava pit.

[Wolfshead]

If you watch the extras on the DVD, I think it's in the light and magic bit, you can see an unfinnished scene involving Chattar Lal in the cage being lowered into the lava pit.

And by the way, I'm a she, not a he.

[VP]

Another Scottish lady. Do you know Westford?

[Wolfshead]

Not as far as I know...

[VP]

http://raven.theraider.net/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=224

[Indydan13]

1. You saw Chattar crawling away from the wheel, I'm not sure what else....

2. Here's my theory...

Fear is when you encounter your phobia, not see a form of it...

For Example: If you are afraid of the dark, you don't freak out at a shadow, just nighttime.
or
If your afraid of snakes you don't freak out at a picture, model, dish,etc. just a living, breathing snake.
or
If you are afraid of heights, you don't freak out looking at a skyscraper, just when you reach that height.

[VP]

There were living snakes in the bigger one.

[Indydan13]

True, but I just thougt of the fact that maybe he was afraid but the moviemakers didn't feel like putting it in. Maybe they thought we would understand that he is afraid and didn't want to keep showing it.