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Aussie Jones
08-04-2004, 08:04 PM
Why didn't Raiders or Last Crusade get best picture?

Why didn't Harrison Ford get best actor?

How did John Williams not get an Oscar for best original score for any of the Indy soundtracks?

Why didn't Steven Spielberg get best director?

Correct me if I'm wrong with the above.

blur
08-04-2004, 11:15 PM
Becase light-hearted, yet popular, movies seldom win Oscars. They're not deemed worthy enough by the twits at the Academy.

Renderking Fisk
08-05-2004, 08:28 AM
The Academy is full of crap. Notice the first STAR WARS movie didn't win an award for Best Picture? Highest Grossing movie of it's time, most watched, most loved... and lost to a Woody Allen movie.

It's rigged, it's a popularity contest for Hollywood's "In-Croud", and George Lucas isn't in that clicque. Thank goodness.

Indyologist
08-05-2004, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by blur
Becase light-hearted, yet popular, movies seldom win Oscars. They're not deemed worthy enough by the twits at the Academy.

Yuh-huh. I agree. But hey, it's not like George, Steve and Harry don't have the money to bribe them. ;) They could throw in a swizzlestick from Skywalker Ranch as a bonus.

Harrison Ford thinks that the whole Ocsar thing is a sham and he said so in so many words. Maybe that's why. The guy made the mistake of actually forming an educated opinion and then speaking his mind about it. Sometimes intelligence costs you, I guess.

I say bravo to him for thinking like an individual and not kissing Oscar's golden butt. He does what he does because he wants to do it and he doesn't give a rat's hiney what anyone thinks. Besides, it's just another thing the cleaning lady would have to dust... :D

Renderking Fisk
08-05-2004, 10:50 AM
If you were Harrison Ford, what would your rather have, Millions of adoring fans, or a gold statute that's cold and gives no love back?

Harrison Ford thinks that the whole Ocsar thing is a sham and he said so in so many words. Maybe that's why. The guy made the mistake of actually forming an educated opinion and then speaking his mind about it. Sometimes intelligence costs you, I guess.

He's right. And speaking your mind sometimes comes at a heavy price. But the cost of not speaking out is even greater.

Attila the Professor
08-05-2004, 09:08 PM
Best Picture, 1981:

This was a serious competition between Chariots of Fire, On Golden Pond, Atlantic City, Reds, and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Though all were favorites for the prize except for the eventual winner, Chariots of Fire, here, I must say, Raiders could have won it justifiably.

Best Actor, 1981:

Harrison Ford was not nominated. I cannot speak for the other four contenders, but it is very likely that Henry Fonda was awarded as a consolation for all of his fabulous work in previous years. He was excellent in On Golden Pond, without a doubt, but it was exceeded by his work in, at the very least, The Grapes of Wrath. To consider Mr. Ford, it is very arguable that his work was hardly the sort that merits recognition by the Academy. He played it well, yes. An Award worthy role? Perhaps not.

Best Score, 1981:

This one is difficult to comprehend. The Chariots of Fire theme is memorable, sure; however, the Raiders March exceeds it.

Best Director, 1981:

Reds was a massive film. The Academy likes things of the that sort. Besides, it was an massive film with depth - no small feat. Observe Spielberg's winning film, Schindler's List, for an idea of what I mean, if you must.

The Rest of 1981:

Raiders of the Lost Ark won more awards than any other that year - 5 - and justifiably so, winning for Art Direction-Set Direction, Sound, Film Editing, Visual Effects, and a Special Achievement Award for Sound Effects Editing. Also, it is notable that Industrial Light and Magic was honored with 3 Scientific or Technical Awards. I am not sure whether they were for work on Raiders or some other project.

Best Picture, 1989:

A remarkably good year. I'd have given it to Field of Dreams over Driving Miss Daisy, perhaps, but the other nominees were Born of the Fourth of July, Dead Poets Society, and My Left Foot. Recall that very few sequels are ever recognized for Best Picture, even as nominee.

Best Actor, 1989:

Again, a repeat performance.

Best Score, 1989:

Should have won over The Little Mermaid and the rather overbearing score to Field of Dreams. I cannot speak against Born of the Fourth of July or The Fabulous Baker Boys, knowing nothing of these scores.

Best Director, 1989:

No matter my penchant for Last Crusade over [Raiders[/I], it must be admitted that the previous film has greater depth. No director can win for a sequel without greater depth.

The Rest of 1989:

The film was nominated for Sound, and won for Sound Effects Editing. Also, Messrs. Spielberg and Lucas presented an Honorary Oscar to the great Akira Kurosawa.

Rumpled Fedora
08-05-2004, 09:53 PM
Wow!
Thanks for helpful information there, Attila.

Johan
08-05-2004, 10:38 PM
You talk to a 12 year old now a days and mention Indiana Jones Or Chariots Of Fire. What do you think the 12 year old would recognize. Raiders should have got best picture...the way it has inluenced film making is beyond recognition. Perhaps they should come up with an honerary best picture award for Raiders what do you guys think...Maybe this could be another thread?? Hmm

Aussie Jones
08-06-2004, 05:36 AM
I've seen On Golden Pond and Chariots of Fire and thought they totally sucked

blur
08-06-2004, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by Aussie Jones
I've seen On Golden Pond and Chariots of Fire and thought they totally sucked

Yes, but it's the kind of film that a film wanker thinks is 1000x better than Indy. It's almost like these people think that the more boring and convoluted a movie is, the cooler it is to say that you like it... in the belief that they will appear more knowledgeable than everyone else who just says, "huh?"

Finn
08-06-2004, 08:07 AM
For the type of film <i>Raiders</i> was, it outshot nearly all of the similar films ever made already by getting into the group the best film would be chosen from. It is, and will always be, the best classic adventure movie ever made.

Deadlock
08-06-2004, 11:41 AM
That's what they wind up giving people "lifetime achievement" awards for... When something or someone is underappreciated at the time, but yet turns out to be radically influential and/or beloved.

It's like the "We're feeling guilty for being shortsighted fools" award. :D

Finn
08-06-2004, 02:52 PM
The Hollywood way to say "sorry, we were wrong". Not exactly completely there, but better than nothing.

<small>Then again, perhaps they do have learnt <i>something</i>. I'm asking you, what picture sweeped the board last time?</smal>