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[Chattar Lal]

Originally posted by intergamer
This will probably be bleeped out. I hope so... but if it isn't I don't care.

Chattar Lal, you ****ing idiot.

EDIT: it didn't get bleeped out -- interesting

I just bleeped it out myself though, it seemed out of place.

I'm allowing you to tag along. So why don't you give your mouth a rest. Okay doll?

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[Finn]

Gee, you couldn't have placed these odd line speculations all in one thread?

You know, my nose says that somebody's flooding.

[Aussie Jones]

Great question. I'd say Elsa probably did give Donovan the wrong grail. She says to Indy without a second thought that the grail would not be made of gold.

[Aussie Jones]

I always wondered that myself, but it's possibly another blooper.

[Aussie Jones]

Not sure on that one. I'll get back to you later.

[Indy Benson]

Good question. Now, I can't be sure, but I thought it was a big no-no to look upon "the face of god" and all that jazz. So, could the spirits that came out of the Ark represent god, thus...don't look?

I also have a theory that the spirits knew that Indy and Marion were good, with good intentions, so they were spared. Now would this be a different story had they looked?

[fatima]

That was a question I posted at another Forum, since I was also wondering that she probably was lying to Donavan, she is Historian, she would never thought the Grail was made of gold! that's one of Elsa's enigmas...

[vaxer]

Originally posted by Indy Benson
Now, I can't be sure, but I thought it was a big no-no to look upon "the face of god" and all that jazz. So, could the spirits that came out of the Ark represent god, thus...don't look?


I think you're right Indy Benson, I've always thought of it that way.

[Indy Benson]

Personally, I think he could land a plane, but most likely not very well (LC). I'm sure he would have cracked the landing gear trying to land on his own, but chances are, he could have radioed ahead for some landing instructions.
I also think the Germans wouldn't dare to shoot him down, not with the Fuhrer's prize on board.

[fatima]

Yes, the reason why they shouldn't look at the ark is because it represents God and they could die, it's a prophany.

[fatima]

When Henry Senior told Indy 'they shot us' was because he was ashamed to tell his son that the failure was his. I don't know if he ever told him the truth...

[fatima]

Good question! any answers ou there???

[fatima]

Short knows very well how to defend himself, Willy doesn't.

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[Ayrun]

The way I remembered, Lao Che traded the diamond for the ashes Indy found, and the antidote for the diamond; so he'd have both the ashes and the diamond.

[Indy_Jones88]

But if Lao Che just let Indy die, wouldn't he still get both artifacts?

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[Ayrun]

<small>A great mind would have come up with a solution by now… ;) lol</small>

Originally posted by Indy_Jones88
But if Lao Che just let Indy die, wouldn't he still get both artifacts?

Hmm.. I don't know.

Maybe the trade would have been the fastest way?
I don't know how long it would have taken the poison to kill him.

I think Lao Che just wanted to show him who was boss; wanted Indy to know who he was dealing with.
Che wanted him to see he lost: Lao Che getting everything out of this deal, and Indy - at the end - being happy just to be alive.

[Aussie Jones]

Don't agree with one thing that Ayrun has said above. I also think Indy_Jones88 made a good point.

[Ayrun]

You have a better solution, Aussie?
I'm sure we all like to hear it...

[vaxer]

Originally posted by Indy_Jones88
But if Lao Che just let Indy die, wouldn't he still get both artifacts?

yeah, but the film would end. Spielberg probably wanted the movie to last more then ten minutes. ;)

[Indy Benson]

yeah, but the film would end. Spielberg probably wanted the movie to last more then ten minutes

Exactly! :)

[Luckylighter]

I don't think he had any intention of flying. I hate to say it, but maybe he planned on hijacking it, and making the pilot fly the plane at gunpoint.

On the other hand, he was "making it up as I go." So who knows?

[Indy Benson]

I think they just said that to shut Indy up (since they boarded the Ark up and stored it in the warehouse). As long as the Germans don't have possesion of it, they're happy.

[Luckylighter]

Maybe, it wasn't the real antidote. Maybe Lao Che lied, and the poison had actually been slowly killing Indy all those years. Maybe it was a poison that took, like 60 years to work.

[spohlso]

I think Luckylighter has the most logical answer.

[blur]

And you guys are also forgetting that in Temple, he says he can't fly at all... another continuity error.

[vaxer]

Probably a few years after, to have a good laugh!

[Pale Horse]

The top men are high ranking Free Masons...



And "Top Men" always watch what's going on....

[maquino]

Colonel Musgrove and Major Eaton were identified in Raiders as being from "Army Intelligence", and the Ark crate in the warehouse was stenciled "Army Intell". Sloppy research on Spielberg's part, as during that time period it would have been "AIS" (short for "Army Intelligence & Security"), which would later evolve into today's Military Intelligence Branch.

What consultants AIS would have hired to examine the Ark would have depended upon a number of factors, such as priority, security clearance, etc. At the beginning of the film Musgrove & Eaton simply consider the Ark as something that Hitler would use for propaganda purposes if he got it, hence wanted to deny him that opportunity. That was the basis for their hiring Dr. Jones.

cf. also Secret of the Lost Ark at:

http://www.xeper.org/maquino

Michael Aquino
(Lt. Colonel, Military Intelligence, U.S. Army-Ret.)

[spohlso]

Originally posted by blur
And you guys are also forgetting that in Temple, he says he can't fly at all... another continuity error.

Not really, since Temple was a prequel. There's always the possibility that the experience in TOD convinced Indy to take flying lessons between the time of that movie and the time of Raiders.

I always liked to believe that he started, but never got as far as the lesson on landing.

[fatima]

Originally posted by Luckylighter
Maybe, it wasn't the real antidote. Maybe Lao Che lied, and the poison had actually been slowly killing Indy all those years. Maybe it was a poison that took, like 60 years to work.

What? but I'm sorry, it doesn't make sense to me, since we start already to see Indy to be unwell, he began to sweat, and seeks desperatly for the antidot.
The best point seen in this threat is by far from Ayrun.

[Indy Benson]

To me, it didn't look like there was much room for three people. The German pilot would be flying, and I suppose Marion could be in the rear gunners seat, while Indy was in the crawlway between the two, holding a gun. But, I don't think Indy would be able to see where the pilot was flying, so...

[Aaron H]

Ayrun made a great point and a viable answer. However, this is just one of several plot holes that ToD has...but that is another topic for another day.

[Ayrun]

Thanks, Aaron and fatima. ;)

[Pale Horse]

Originally posted by maquino
Colonel Musgrove and Major Eaton were identified in Raiders as being from "Army Intelligence", and the Ark crate in the warehouse was stenciled "Army Intell". Sloppy research on Spielberg's part, as during that time period it would have been "AIS" (short for "Army Intelligence & Security"), which would later evolve into today's Military Intelligence Branch.

What consultants AIS would have hired to examine the Ark would have depended upon a number of factors, such as priority, security clearance, etc. At the beginning of the film Musgrove & Eaton simply consider the Ark as something that Hitler would use for propaganda purposes if he got it, hence wanted to deny him that opportunity. That was the basis for their hiring Dr. Jones.

cf. also Secret of the Lost Ark at:

http://www.xeper.org/maquino

Michael Aquino
(Lt. Colonel, Military Intelligence, U.S. Army-Ret.)

If I am not mistaken, wasn't the SIS a division of the AIS and they dealt with cryptology, and also had some fingers in the 'enigma' incident?

There was a thread about this in the not so distant past. It discussed the Ark and its position under the rock of golgatha and how it may have been received there. Actually with so many threads about the Ark, I could be blending some together.

[VP]

Adrian, never do that again. It was a pain in the @$$ to merge 6 threads.

[Chattar Lal]

The posts were silly so I edited them out. I don't want to be remembered for posting such rubbish...

[VP]

They were good questions, but they could have been in one thread.

My real name is Ville-Pekka Reponen.

[Chattar Lal]

Originally posted by VP
They were good questions

I think you're just saying that to be nice. I now think they were silly, so I deleted them using edit.

[Indydan13]

What if the poison wasn't poison but a temporary sick stuff so lao che could have leverage against Indy with the antidote.