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LASTCRUSADER
09-02-2004, 01:22 PM
Anyone else here following the World Cup of Hockey? I figure that I should enjoy it while it lasts. Things aren't looking to good right now for a 2004/2005 NHL season. Anyone have any predictions as to who will come out on top? Virtual wages anyone??

I'm betting for Canada.

Finn
09-02-2004, 03:23 PM
Canada is probably the biggest favorite to take the top slot - but there are good challengers, Sweden has great material from top to bottom (only their goalie sit seems a little lacked at the moment) - and Finns shouldn't be counted out either, since they instead have a real miracle man on the net at the moment.

Indy Benson
09-03-2004, 08:29 AM
Yeah, I'm going with Canada, and Finland a close second. The US stinks this year. No emotion, no motivation.

LASTCRUSADER
09-03-2004, 08:54 AM
Its really too bad that team U.S.A isn't playing very well. I was hoping to see another U.S.A /Canada rivalry this year. Its not looking that way. Then again things have just got underway so I guess anything is possible. We should be in store for some good hockey games.

VP
09-03-2004, 09:39 AM
Finland wins. Always.

LASTCRUSADER
09-03-2004, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by VP
Finland wins. Always.

Except for when they play Canada.

VP
09-03-2004, 09:58 AM
I wouldn't be so sure.

Finn
09-03-2004, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by LASTCRUSADER
Except for when they play Canada. If Finland wins the World Cup, I admit, it's going to be a miracle. But it is a very possible miracle, for two reasons... first, Canada isn't all-victorious (neither is Finland). And, miracles don't usually have names. This one does. It's Kiprusoff (http://www.wch04.com/countries/fin/notebook090204.html).

Indy Benson
09-03-2004, 10:13 AM
That, and because the Canadian team has a few injured players.

VP
09-03-2004, 10:17 AM
If miracle has a name, it must be Miikka Kiprusoff.

Finn
09-03-2004, 10:22 AM
I'm sorry if I happen to sound fanatical to anyone's ears or try to make it seem that I attempt to turn this a one-man-praising thread... but when I watched the game last night and saw this man keep his net empty through a 5-on-3 powerplay that lasted for 1:55 and catch a puck that was going to be shot at a point-blank range over him while lying on his stomach, I'm convinced we were watching at the actions of the ultimately hottest goalie right now.

LASTCRUSADER
09-03-2004, 10:26 AM
I don't disagree that Kiprusoff is an outstanding goaltender. After all without him the Calgary Flames might not have gone to the Stanley Cup finals. Simply put though, he can't win it all on his own.

Finn
09-03-2004, 10:53 AM
That is true.

VP
09-03-2004, 10:55 AM
BTW Finn, that was your post #3333. 2nd time.

LASTCRUSADER
09-03-2004, 11:55 AM
Does anyone know if Canada and Finland are in the same pool? Or are they in different ones? I'm just wondering if there is a chance for them to face each other in the finals.

Finn
09-03-2004, 12:14 PM
They are in the different pool. In Pool A is Finland, Sweden, Czech Republic and Germany. In Pool B are Canada, USA, Russia and Slovakia.

So... (speculation starts here) Canada wins the A pool, Finland wins the B pool, the quarters will go:

Canada-A4
A2-A3
Finland-B4
B2-B3

From there the semis go:

Canada - Winner B2-B3
Finland - Winner A2-A3

And the final:
Canada-Finland

...so yeah, it's possible.

LASTCRUSADER
09-03-2004, 12:26 PM
Thanks Fin.

Indeed the speculation does start here. I would love to see these two countries face off in the finals. I do think that both Canada and Finland are some of the stronger teams this time round. So it will be interesting to see how things progress.

Johan
09-03-2004, 12:58 PM
I AM CANADIAN!

Finn
09-03-2004, 01:48 PM
YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT TO GET A "VACATION", TOO!





























<small>...just kidding.</small>

Indy Benson
09-04-2004, 09:45 AM
I'm just glad the US finally got a win, beating Slovakia 3-1.

Finn
09-04-2004, 10:25 AM
Their loss to Russia was a <i>big</i> disappointment, in my mind.

VP
09-04-2004, 11:38 AM
Tonight: Finland-Sweden. Game starts in 15 minutes.

Finn
09-04-2004, 02:47 PM
And just ended. 4-4... but feels like a victory to me.

Finn
09-05-2004, 03:50 AM
And oh yeah... thanks to Canada beating Russia 3-1, one thing just became certain: if you want to see Finland and Canada meeting on ice, only way that is possible is that both teams work their way into the final match.

The most likely quarterfinal pairing (as it seems now)
Canada-Slovakia (A1-A4)
Russia-USA (A2-A3)

Finland-Germany (B1-B4)
Sweden-Czech Republic (B2-B3)

And from there... considering Finland wins Germany and Canada beats Slovakia (and we should really not be in doubt about these... of course anything <i>can</i> happen).

Finland-Russia/USA (B1-A2/A3)
Canada-Sweden/Czech Republic (A1-B2/B3)

And from there... the final (considering both teams win their semi matches).
Canada-Finland

LASTCRUSADER
09-08-2004, 11:45 AM
I'm starting to get a very good feeling about Canada and Finland facing off in the final. I have no doubt that Canada will win tonight against Slovakia. Finland should be able to take the U.S.A on Friday also.

Finn
09-08-2004, 12:26 PM
Canada still have to face the Czechs... they were impressive against Sweden last night. It's not going to be a walk in the park for Canucks.

Actually, I think any of the four teams who are in the semis now can make it to the final!

LASTCRUSADER
09-08-2004, 12:41 PM
The Czechs are likely to be Canada's biggest obstacle after tonight's game but I still think they can take them. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

Indy Benson
09-09-2004, 05:53 AM
Canadians win 5-0. I don't think anyone can stop them.

US vs Finland. Should be interesting!

LASTCRUSADER
09-09-2004, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Indy Benson
Canadians win 5-0. I don't think anyone can stop them.


You got that right.

VP
09-09-2004, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by LASTCRUSADER
Finland should be able to take the U.S.A on Friday also.

You mean Saturday. The game starts 2 AM Finnish time :p.

Finn
09-10-2004, 08:49 PM
WooHooo!! FINNS MADE IT!! SEE YOU IN FINAL, CANADA!

Indy Benson
09-11-2004, 09:53 AM
Yep, Finland beat the US 2-1. Chris Chelios, the US captain, has already said that he's done (he's 42 years old). A shame he couldn't go out on top.

I don't know who to root for now. I'm impressed with both Finalnd and Canada. I think I'll have to root for Finland, as they seem to be the underdog.

VP
09-11-2004, 12:59 PM
Suomalainen voittaa aina.

Finn
09-11-2004, 03:33 PM
Mitä nyt joskus vähän haparoi...

Finn
09-12-2004, 04:01 AM
And, there we go... looks like we got the final we wished.

Finland vs. Canada, Tuesday evening/Wednesday night, Air Canada Center, Toronto.

And by looking at the semi game against the Czechs, the Canadians shouldn't boast over a sure win. The Finns bear a chance.

We can expect some seriously good hockey.

Chattar Lal
09-12-2004, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by Finn
Mitä nyt joskus vähän haparoi...

What does that say in English?

Finn
09-12-2004, 07:10 AM
Oh, nothing.

LASTCRUSADER
09-12-2004, 07:50 PM
Good luck to Finland. They'll need it.

All kidding a side. This should be a great Hockey game.

LASTCRUSADER
09-14-2004, 08:35 PM
Canada wins it!! 3-2 what a game! Couldn't asked for a better match up.

Johan
09-15-2004, 09:57 PM
was there any doubt????

Zharah
09-16-2004, 02:22 AM
In the words of Robin Williams:

"It's your only sport, C'mon!"

;)

You know I love you Canadians...

Finn
09-16-2004, 05:00 AM
...perkele.

Zharah
09-16-2004, 03:13 PM
Now, now Finn. No need for name-calling. ;)

Aaron H
09-16-2004, 05:47 PM
With the NHL lockout/walkout the "experts" are saying this season of hockey (at least in the US) is doomed.

Zharah
09-16-2004, 05:50 PM
I know! That really sucks. There goes the 04-05 season. Psh. :mad:

LASTCRUSADER
09-16-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Aaron H
With the NHL lockout/walkout the "experts" are saying this season of hockey (at least in the US) is doomed.

Some of these experts are also going as far as saying that some of the U.S teams may not recover from the loss of this season. The theory is that because of the lack of intrest in some U.S cities it may actually destroy the teams.

Its really a shame because the people that suffer here are the fans. I know I'll be tuning into the minor league games or maybe even one of the new leagues that are starting up. Like the original six league for example.

Aaron H
09-16-2004, 09:34 PM
Greed always ruins it for everybody.

Johan
09-22-2004, 11:28 AM
I hate to say it but the reason the NHL has problems is because of the new southern US expansion teams

Finn
09-22-2004, 11:49 AM
At least the European leagues are alive and strong! :D

And show me someone who claims that you can't see similar quality hockey on this side of the Pool, and I'll show you a fellow who got his pic under encyclopedia entry "North American Arrogance"...

Johan
09-22-2004, 04:21 PM
You have the best hockey players right behind Canada ol boy!
is that ignorance? I don't think so, its just reality!
Hey, don't get me wrong I was AT the game Selanne scored 3 goals and broke the record in his rookie year for most goals in a season by a rookie. It was one of the best hockey experiences I've encountered. MAN do I miss the Jets.

Raffey
09-22-2004, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Aaron H
With the NHL lockout/walkout the "experts" are saying this season of hockey (at least in the US) is doomed.

It really sucks to have this happen this year because my area's hometeam (San Jose Sharks) did really well last season and I expected this one to be pretty good too.

VP
09-23-2004, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by IndyJohan
Selanne

Selänne.

Finn
09-23-2004, 05:03 AM
<small>Now that was uncalled for, padawan. You can't require people speaking English to use umlauts.</small>

VP
09-23-2004, 05:09 AM
<small>They can use the Character Map.</small>

LASTCRUSADER
09-23-2004, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Finn
At least the European leagues are alive and strong! :D

And show me someone who claims that you can't see similar quality hockey on this side of the Pool, and I'll show you a fellow who got his pic under encyclopedia entry "North American Arrogance"...

I have to agree with you here. Especially since over 150 NHL players have gone to play hockey in Europe this year. Its too bad none of the games are broadcasted here.

Johan
09-24-2004, 09:30 AM
Sorry VP but that's not how his name looks on the Jersey so I don't take it back...even if it is wrong