A weird little voice in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[Crowfood]

I just bought the Indiana Jones trilogy on DVD, and watched Raiders of the Lost Ark again for the first time in about 10 years.

I noticed something quite strange happened at 127 minutes and 04 seconds into the movie.

It's in a scene about 3/4 of the way through the film, where Indy and Marion are just about to board the ship after recovering the Ark in Egypt. As Indy goes to say goodbye to Sallah, you can clearly hear a voice that sounds like a little girl say "Daddy".

This isn't just background noise. It's a pretty quiet scene, and it's very much out of place for what is going on at the time.

Just to make sure I wasn't going mad, I got my brother to watch it without telling him what to expect, and asked him what he thought. He heard exactly the same thing.

Has anybody else heard this? I've tried googling it and searching this forum, but haven't been able to find any references to it.

[blur]

Can't say I've heard it myself... but given the kind of people who'd be on the set, it's entirely possible that a little girl spoke out of turn during the scene. A sound editor would have heard it, but probably deemed it inconsequential to remove or otherwise work with. In the context of the movie, there'd be all sorts of people down on the docks, so a voice like that isn't out of place. If it was saying, "Who feels like a Big Mac?" or something, it would be different, I agree :)

[Crowfood]

Thanks for replying, Blur.

With all due respect, it doesn't seem reasonable for a little girl to be on a dock in Egypt in the middle of the night, and speaking English as well. We see some rough characters in the background, but it's not like there's a lot of people there, and no evidence of families.

It's a pretty good explanation about the origin of the sound, as far as a kid speaking at the wrong time on the set...however, the sound guys were doing a crummy job if they deemed it inconsequential. It's quite loud, with no other conflicting sounds or dialogue, and it's not like I had to turn the volume up and listen really hard to hear it.

[blur]

Yeah, well you never know... ships would arrive at all hours of the day and night and obviously children would have sometimes been on them. I think the idea is plausible. As to quite how or why the decision was made to leave it in, I have no idea.

[Raffey]

Actually its the sound of Indy whimpering as Sallah hugs him goodbye. Remember that Indy just had another bad day of putting on a lot of miles...especially on his body.

It does sound like a girl whimpering "Daddy" but just happens to be a sound loop of Ford or a pretty bad 'voice-over' whimpering "Ayiah!" because Indy's hurting.

Just another note my DVD shows Chapter 25 starting at 1:29:51, sounds like your missing a couple minutes somewhere! :O :D

[blur]

Ha! Really? I must check that out...

[VP]

127 minutes you say? Fascinating. I thought that Raiders is only about 111 minutes long :).

[Crowfood]

You're right Blur, it is plausible, but it's also a little bit of a stretch, in my opinion.

Raffey, can you please tell us how you came to this conclusion? Have you seen this discussed elsewhere?

It's good thing the "Indy is a Bisexual"person didn't see this.:)

[blur]

Originally posted by Crowfood
It's good thing the "Indy is a Bisexual"person didn't see this.:)

For all we know, that person is you :)

[Finn]

<small>Hmm... we've had a lot of Australians pouring in lately.

If you need me, I'll be in the crime lab.</small>

[Chattar Lal]

Originally posted by Finn
<small>Hmm... we've had a lot of Australians pouring in lately.

If you need me, I'll be in the crime lab.</small>

Don't you like Australian's Finn???

[Finn]

Oh, no! I have nothing against Aussies, like I have have nothing against the Irish, or Americans or Swedes <small>(well, maybe a little, but that's in my blood)</small> or Mongolians or... you get the idea.

It's just that we don't always put all of those things we want to say with our words in plain sight.

[Crowfood]

[QUOTE] For all we know, that person is you [UNQUOTE]

Oh, no, you've seen through my cunning plan.

Phase 1). Cast aspersions on the sexuality of beloved fictional characters.

Phase 2).

Phase 3). Profit.

Sorry if we got on on the wrong foot, Blur. Chances are I won't be a long term member of this forum, but regardless of that, I wouldn't want you to think I was having a dig at you.

Then again, I'll probably spot something curious which needs discussion in Temple of Doom when I re-watch that.
;)

[Chattar Lal]

Originally posted by Crowfood
[QUOTE] For all we know, that person is you [UNQUOTE]

Oh, no, you've seen through my cunning plan.

Phase 1). Cast aspersions on the sexuality of beloved fictional characters.

Phase 2).

Phase 3). Profit.

Sorry if we got on on the wrong foot, Blur. Chances are I won't be a long term member of this forum, but regardless of that, I wouldn't want you to think I was having a dig at you.

Then again, I'll probably spot something curious which needs discussion in Temple of Doom when I re-watch that.
;)


Blur thought you were I. I've used multiple identities in the past; I'm the one who said Indiana and Marcus were bi/gay. Denholm Elliott was gay and his character was a bit wimpy, the rest was speculation…

cheers

[Finn]

Originally posted by Chattar Lal
Denholm Elliott was gay Was not. The man had two wives (not at the same time though) and a daughter!

[VP]

That proves nothing.

[Chattar Lal]

Originally posted by Finn
Was not. The man had two wives (not at the same time though) and a daughter!

Check out this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denholm_Elliott

Although gay, Elliott was married twice (the first time to the British actress, Virginia McKenna) and had children. He died of AIDS.

[Finn]

Okay, even though there's been strong suspicions about Elliott being homosexual, nothing's been proved you know. And I wouldn't call man a complete gay if he has been married twice and has a daughter (and Wikipedia's articles have not been written by reputable experts [well, some have], but people like you and me and thus it is easy that a strong suspicion slips in as a fact).

And that fact about Elliott dying in AIDS also proves nothing, since he got it in a blood transfusion gone bad, not by playing a Knight of the Brown Hole.

[Raffey]

Originally posted by Crowfood
You're right Blur, it is plausible, but it's also a little bit of a stretch, in my opinion.

Raffey, can you please tell us how you came to this conclusion? Have you seen this discussed elsewhere?

It's good thing the "Indy is a Bisexual"person didn't see this.:)

I went directly to the scene you suggested on the DVD. Just watch it. Sallah hugs Indy goodbye and Indy's eyes go wide as he groans in pain.

However, his groan...sounds like, as my state's governor would say, "A Girly-Man...."

[Pale Horse]

Finn, your being rather crass for a family oriented message board.

*tsk tsk....

[Ska]

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Oh wait, I can't do that! Sorry...continue the ridiculing of Mr. Elliott.

Ska

[Chattar Lal]

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Oh wait, I can't do that! Sorry...continue the ridiculing of Mr. Elliott.

Ska

I'm not ridiculing anyone. Mr. Elliott was gay and I should know...

[Finn]

Originally posted by Pale Horse
Finn, your being rather crass for a family oriented message board. What, what's wrong with my gentle euphemism that didn't even contain any nasty words? :rolleyes:

[VP]

Maybe it's the part about the Ruskean Reiän Ritari.

Back on topic.

[Pale Horse]

Originally posted by Finn
What, what's wrong with my gentle euphemism that didn't even contain any nasty words? :rolleyes:

I don't think there was/is anything gentle about it.

[Finn]

<small>Okay, maybe there was not... but I was supposed to be the bad mod, wasn't I?</small> :p

[Chattar Lal]

Finn is defending my accusation of Mr. Elliot being a queer. He's just trying to stress how unnatural homosexuality is. I hope no one here thinks being gay is normal...





Back on topic.

[Indy Benson]

He's just trying to stress how unnatural homosexuality is. I hope no one here thinks being gay is normal... Back on topic

Quite a statement to make and expect people to jump back on topic, don't you think?

[Pale Horse]

perhaps I should have discussed this with Finn in private.

Considering that:

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[Finn]

Originally posted by Chattar Lal
Finn is defending my accusation of Mr. Elliot being a queer. He's just trying to stress how unnatural homosexuality is. I hope no one here thinks being gay is normal... Ahem, please don't make any hasty conclusions... I see nothing odd in being a gay. I just stated out that it's never been proved that Elliott was homosexual. But considering the very strong suspicion, he most likely was bisexual. But not complete gay, in which our friend here went wrong.

^ And now, allow me to refer to the post above...

[westford]

Originally posted by Chattar Lal
...how unnatural homosexuality is. I hope no one here thinks being gay is normal...
Keep your homophobic views to yourself before this thread gets closed.

[Chattar Lal]

Originally posted by Finn
I see nothing odd in being a gay.
I hope you're being sarcastic there Finn. You're now telling me that you think playing a knight of the brown hole is ok.

Westford I'm not homophobic, I just have an anti-gay bias.
I don't fear or hate queers...





Back on topic...

[Finn]

Originally posted by Chattar Lal
I hope you're being sarcastic there Finn. You're now telling me that you think playing a knight of the brown hole is ok. I was not. I really don't care where people stick their organs as long as I have the control over my own.

<small>I'm seriously starting to consider if I should give a Black Eye for an Anti-Queer Guy...</small>

[VP]

... and as long as they aren't interested in you.

If you don't get back on topic, this thread will be locked.

I have to listen more carefully next time I watch Raiders, but my DVD's are in Järvenpää. My cousins are going to rip them to CD's.

[intergamer]

Originally posted by Crowfood
[QUOTE] For all we know, that person is you [UNQUOTE]

Oh, no, you've seen through my cunning plan.

Phase 1). Cast aspersions on the sexuality of beloved fictional characters

Phase 2).



Phase 3). Profit.

Sorry if we got on on the wrong foot, Blur. Chances are I won't be a long term member of this forum, but regardless of that, I wouldn't want you to think I was having a dig at you.

Then again, I'll probably spot something curious which needs discussion in Temple of Doom when I re-watch that.
;)

A slashdotter, I see...

I'll be in the crime room as well

but it should be

1. Cast aspersions on the sexuality of beloved fictional characters.
2. ???
3. Profit!

[Chattar Lal]

I don't want to sound like an idiot, but what are you trying to say here intergamer?

[VP]

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