What would you like to see in Indy 4 [Archive]

roundshort

11-01-2005, 11:25 AM

ClintonHammond

11-01-2005, 11:44 AM

I'd love for it to be as good as Temple Of Doom....
I'd be happy if it was as good as Raiders....
I suspect it won't even be as good as Last Crusade....

What would I like to see?

Indy, played by someone too young to be collecting Social Security....
I'd like to see Miranda Otto as his 'lady interest'...
I'd like to see it written and directed by ANYONE other than Lick-a$$ and Spew-burg...

I believe there can be a strong future for the Indy franchise... but it'll take new blood to pull it off....

Ken

11-01-2005, 12:48 PM

I would like to see it finally get made.

-KC

Doc Savage

11-01-2005, 12:57 PM

Indy...plain and simple. No gimmicks, no massive CGI. Just a dusty, ride-into-the-sunset, end-this-thing-with-dignity movie. Go figure.

Webley

11-01-2005, 03:48 PM

What would Webley like to see in Indy 4?

Hmmm............. I wonder

Could it Short Round

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SHORT ROUND IS COOLER THAN INDY

roundshort

11-01-2005, 04:14 PM

Sweet, Webly, I agree (hence the name) we need more SHortround, and Cowbell, need more cowbell!

Webley

11-01-2005, 06:19 PM

Somewhere in Asia 1950. We see the silhouette of a man standing in an old forgotten temple. Directly in front of him is the idol.{you know the one from the beginning of Raiders} Its maybe 20 or 30 feet from the man. He starts to move forward a few feet but does not see the trip wire that’s ankle high. When the man trips the wire, we hear the chimes of bells. Slowly the entrance of the temple begins to close. the man snatches the idol and dashes to the door. Realizing he has more than enough time to escape, he decides to go back for the gold coins that were on top of the altar with the Idol. When he grabs a handful of coins a trap door opens and he falls to the floor below. Where he finds himself facing the barrel of a gun. Slowly camera pans up the man we see khaki pants. Camera moves to mans beltline, hanging from left belt loop is a sling shot. Camera pans to show mans safari shirt, leather jacket + sachel....but whats this?? No fedora? A NY Yankees baseball cap?! That’s right! Shorty's all grown up.
{scene 2}
Marshall College Indy in his office going through his mail sees apackage from Shanghai. Indy opens package to find NY Yankees hat covered in blood. Indy "Here we go again."

Webley

11-01-2005, 06:21 PM

Ok hears a scene that the Web man would love to see in Jones4, you know how in TOD Shorty thinks hes Indys bodyguard well in the 4th movie he still is the "bodyguard" of Dr.Jones and this would be cool to see.

You got Short Round fighting this big guy and not doin so well in the fight so Indy will say "I 've got to save him!" but Shortys girlfriend who is with Indy will say "He can take care of himself" than Indy will say "He needs me." Than we see Shorty take one hell of a punch to the fase and thats when Shortys girlfriend will say "Okay, save him." and than Indy goes runing to help Shorty.

roundshort

11-01-2005, 06:36 PM

Now were talk Web-man! Probably see shorty pushing Indy around in a wheel chair, or omething though!

Doc Savage

11-02-2005, 09:47 AM

Finn

11-02-2005, 11:13 AM

Somewhere in Asia 1950... Read that somewhere. So did you. :whip:

KDuncan

11-02-2005, 11:52 AM

Indy, played by someone too young to be collecting Social Security....

Dude, you and my parents. My mom keeps saying, "Indiana Jones and the Nursing Home of Doom," and, you know, I wouldn't watch it if it didn't have Ford. To me, nobody could be Indy except for Ford.

AND, for that last time:

He's not too old!

So there. :p

ClintonHammond

11-02-2005, 01:06 PM

Unless they're gonna play Indy aged 63, he's too old...

roundshort

11-02-2005, 01:53 PM

IT's not a question of what he can still do, which by the way I agree with you Temp he should be "able" to do whatever, but more does it look right. When Rodger Moore was WAY too old to be 007 in View to a Kill, the movie just didn't sit well, which I still think is a very cool Bond flick. Who wants to see an old geezer kicking ass, it is as bad as Shorty K.O.ing the Thuggee that were twice his size or more. I also agree that no one else can be Jones at this point, the Harrison Ford facial expressions are as much of Indy as the whip, and anyone else trying to dulicate that, would be well awful.

roundshort

11-02-2005, 02:27 PM

Maybe a series of movies where a grown Shortround runs a chain of Brothels and gets into wacky adventures, and can only get out of jams by the old contacts he made as being Indy's guy?

Maybe woudl be better for the WB

Paden

11-03-2005, 10:50 AM

I tend to believe that a well-crafted script could take into account Indiana's age while still providing an engaging adventure story. I can't help but think of Eastwood and the fact that he was able to pull off more than one credible action sequence in his later years that were believable for the age of the character he was portraying. A tightly focused story could present the great adventurer in the twilight of his career, placing him in a perilous quest that factors in the effects of age (and mileage) and incorporates those aspects into the story's suspense. I think the nagging question, in my mind, is just how strong the script is going to be. Given the number of changes it has reportedly undergone, I think the quality of the story remains debatable. What I fear is a tale that pawns off some of the physical aspects of the plot onto another, younger character, such as a son/daughter/student, which would lessen the presence of Indiana and ultimately, for me personally, render much of the film unsatisfying.

roundshort

11-03-2005, 11:11 AM

At this point you wonder if the script will have the 1,000 monkies with a 1,000 typwrites effect. Anytime their is tto much focus on one project, by too many people, it will be contrived. Don't take this next post the wrong way because I am not a Hollywood "insider" or want to be, but I haev had severel conversations with some people close to the movie, mainly the producers (if you use Pale Horses 6 degree of Seperation, then I guess I am a 1), and while we discussed NOTHING about the movie or plot (trust me these people no matter how good of friends you are with them do not give hints away and anyone who says they do are FULL OF IT), they did say how much back and forth all of the Scripts were being given. This can never be a good thing, as instead of having a good raw story., you have a story that does not have one voice. We will see, but if the last three Star Wars movies is any indication, well, I am sure there will be some great lines, some decent action, and the Score will be great.

I just hope there is little to no CGI! and no Jar-jar

Doc Savage

11-03-2005, 01:09 PM

As long as it's used, say, for a panoramic view of El Dorado or a massive, triggered booby trap. Part of the Trilogy's appeal was what was left pseudo-believeable by the pulp-novel feel of the movies.

IndyBuff

11-03-2005, 03:03 PM

I don't mind CGI if it's used tastefully and done well but for Indy I think it should be used sparingly. To me, one of the charms of the films was the B-movie feel that they retained and hopefully Indy IV will be able to capture this same experience. Harrison's getting old but I still think there's some room for action and excitement that he and stunt men could pull off. This film has potiential but there's also a lot of room for error as well.

TombReader

11-11-2005, 11:06 AM

Here's an interesting update:

http://www.theraider.net/newsarchives/indy4/2005_november.php#0111110501

KDuncan

11-11-2005, 12:31 PM

3D? Weird.

IndyBuff

11-11-2005, 12:37 PM

This 3-D thing bothers me a little bit. 3-D is usually nothing more than a gimmick to try and make mediocre films more exciting and more appealing to audiences. I just want Indy IV to be a great movie by itself without having to rely on things like 3-D and other distractions.

KDuncan

11-11-2005, 12:54 PM

IAdventurer01

11-11-2005, 01:28 PM

... I really don't like this whole 3D thing in movies. I mean, it's nice for theme park attractions, but that's where I think it should end. So 3D Indy IV? Absolutely, positively, shoot myself in the head (just kidding :p ) not! :mad:

MikeArizona

11-12-2005, 12:04 AM

What I would like to see is Marion Introduceing Indiana to the young son he didnt know he had, than find a way to kill her off.... maybe she contacted indy to tell him because she was dyeing of some disease or something.. toss in the uneasy indy with the untrusting son, and maybe a good movie can come of this. Now as for the original premis of this threads idea this movie needs a kick a$$ chase we have seen truck chase car chase and train chase, and car/plane chase and boat chase, and horse/tank chase motercycle chase, whats left???air baloon chase??? might get away from the nazi theme, maybe toss in the japanes navy or something.

IndyBuff

11-12-2005, 12:28 AM

What boggles my mind is the fact that Lucas is STILL writing the script. I know he and the other writers have been busy but after 15 years you have to start wondering what the deal is. It's a little frightening to think that they've had over a decade to prepare for this film and it still seems to be in trouble. I just don't get it.:(

Also, the lack of urgency is also troubling. Harrison and everyone else are clearly anxious to do it and yet no one seems to be in much of a hurry. I want the producers to take their time and make the film great but after 15 years you can't help but wonder if it's even worthwhile. With each passing day I feel less and less optimistic about Indy IV. It can still be done and I think it can be done well; however, it needs to happen soon or I think they will have blown their chance.

Dene

11-12-2005, 12:56 PM

It just has to be Spielberg's next movie. If it isn't, then I'd be very surprised if it ever appears.

If they're going to do it, it has to be now.

IndyBuff

11-13-2005, 11:37 PM

I may be in the minority here but I wouldn't mind seeing someone from the video games or the novels turn up as well. Someone like Gale Parker, Jack Shannon, or Thomas Treadwell would be a neat addition to the story and a nice tip of the hat to Indy fans.

I doubt it will ever happen but it would be cool nonetheless.:whip:

Finn

11-14-2005, 06:05 AM

Would be nice, but p'haps just in the means of a mention... not as an actual onscreen character, since I have a feeling they don't want to go through the trouble of explaining all the Indy n00bs who the heck this guy/gal is and why s/he knows the man in the hat.

Paden

11-14-2005, 10:26 AM

IndyBuff

11-14-2005, 03:03 PM

Personally, I think it would be great to see a screen treatment of Sophia Hapgood, but I'm pretty certain that will never happen. Still a mention of the character in connection to another set of events would be cool.

I can't believe I forgot to mention Sophia!:o

I think Finn's idea of simply mentioned a character from the books or comics might work better in the long run. Indy fans would recognize the name without the audience being too confused on who the person is.

qwerty

11-18-2005, 03:51 PM

I have to ask all of you something about Indy 4.
Did any of you try to become a part of Indy 4 production team? What I mean is to be involved in making of Indy 4.
I tried that couple of times and none of it worked. Do you have some ideas that I could possibly use?
I am ready to give my best shot but remember that stocking is against the low in California. So legitimate ideas only.

roundshort

11-19-2005, 10:56 AM

Gwerty, good question, but you have to realize the total suck-up nature of Hollywood. This is a total A+++ list project, and the zone of suck-ups to be part of this will be huge. I have worked and with (not in a full time capicty but as an "advisor") to some of the biggest names in Hollywood, some who are in the inner core of Indy, and trust me you don't want to be around any of these people ont he production teams. The people who work on these projects (I am talking about the minor people not the stars, director etc) just want to be the "man" and get noticed and bumped up the Hollywood food chain. The best way to be part of the project is to be hired by the catering company who brings coffee and jucie to the set, and for once I am not being sarcastic.

qwerty

11-22-2005, 12:44 PM

JerryKing

11-26-2005, 01:20 PM

I would want it to feature mostly Dr Jones, not "Stunt Indy"... i.e. a considerably more serious, thoughtful, refined, even brooding protagonist - befitting his assumed age advancement.

Furthermore, I would prefer it to be closer to "Temple" in nature, but more morose (that atmosphere could be enriched e.g. by killing off a familiar character - Sallah, for instance), with Henry Junior (and ergo the entire film) showing more care and seriousness in thoughts and actions. And, obviously, I would want no trace of any family members. Perhaps a small cameo from Henry Senior would add a little spice, but only a cameo, not a full-length role... and needless to say, Henry Senior would be the only allowed one - I could not stand any new Jones kins or, God forbid, hitherto unknown ones. Nor would I want to see any cretinous "cute" references and pseudoexplanations (such as that whole dreadful scout opening in Crusade).

Tommy Lee Bonez

11-28-2005, 01:23 PM

When Harrisson Ford looks almost as old as Sean Connery you know there will be a problem.

shenshaw

12-27-2005, 08:38 PM

Since there are going to go ahead and make Indy 4, what would you like to see in it. I don't mean plot, but little Indy-isms, like veichle chases, fights, whip action, not things like look for the weed of life, or save 1,000 stray dogs, but what features should Lucas stick in the movie?

I would lvoe to see another chase that even comes close to the truck chase in Raiders!

To go along with this... what are some of the things that we can expect. (based on similar events in at least 2 of the previous indy films and given that these "traditions" will be rehonored)

1. Some large quantity of pest/rodent/insect/etc...
2. Indy will fly through the air with his whip
3. A leap from a horse to some form of vehicle
4. A crisis involving an airplane which results in its destruction
5. A love interest (even if its a revisited one)
6. The map sequence (although TLC flirted with a new twist when driving to the castle)
7. Some type of sacred object that needs to be found (i know some of these are obvious, but oh well)
8. An introductory scene that is fun but has little meaning to the rest of the movie (I know ROTLA introduced belloq, but I'm not counting that)
9...

Help me out...

JohnWayne

12-28-2005, 09:48 PM

How about Indy in a Cairo swordfight

Canyon

01-27-2006, 11:42 AM

What do I want to see in Indy 4?

* The opening sequence sent in snowy mountains ;)

* Two classroom scenes. One mixed in, perhaps as a flashback, and one at the end :D

* A scene near the end during a presentation/dinner party at the museum with Harrison in a black tux :p

* Indy cracking that whip on at least three or four separate occasions :whip:

Grizzlor

01-31-2006, 06:34 PM

At this point, almost anything is agreeable to me. Especially since Indy cannot die, ala Captain Kirk or Data, just to name a few, scifi chars. in what is likely their last harrah. One thing I like about Lucas is that he doesn't kill his main heroes off.

Violet

01-31-2006, 06:48 PM

I kinda knew that it was like that in Hollywood but I still want to ba a part of Indy IV, so is there a way in. That thing with catering has nothing really to do with the creative part of making Indy IV.
I realy could use other people's experience. Did anyone try this?

Dude, if I could I would have. If I could join Indy IV even as an extra I most certainly would. But knowing my luck I don't stand a chance.

intergamer

01-31-2006, 09:17 PM

How about Indy in a Cairo swordfight

Could be interesting, if played right... we all know Indy as a guy who would run away from a swordfight or find a gun.

Welcome to the Raven! (where the beer is hot and the women are cold)

effin

02-01-2006, 09:44 PM

there was never a helicopter in indy because of the time period. now that indy 4 takes place in late 40's or early 50's that could be a great sequence.

maybe a pool of piranna, or electric eels (try and think of a creepy crawly that hasn't already been in an indy film) vultures? Kimono dragons?

some cool gondola way up in the mountains.

breaking glaciers

I always love elaborate booby traps.

Search for the idol from raiders in the beginning, or have the idol in it. Lao Che could have it.

I want to hear more ideas from the fans. Also loved when indy returned for a brief moment in youn indy chron. with beard in snow, that brought me back to the excitement of indy for sure.

roundshort

02-02-2006, 10:36 AM

Welcome effin! Great first post. Good to see you are lookignforward to Indy 4! Welcome to the Raven!

IndyBuff

02-02-2006, 11:41 AM

Welcome to The Raven effin!:whip:

You've got some cool ideas there, especially the idea of using a helicopter. That has some neat possibilities.

roundshort

02-02-2006, 01:49 PM

Welcome to The Raven effin!:whip:

You've got some cool ideas there, especially the idea of using a helicopter. That has some neat possibilities.

I agree, too bad the sho Fear Factor has taken all the fun and fright of the creepy crawly things

Rae-deemer

02-02-2006, 04:20 PM

5 actually would like to see some of Emperors Tomb in Indy 4. I also like the gondola idea and maybe a stint underwater also.

indifan101

02-02-2006, 04:32 PM

New enemies! The Nazis are great bad guys, but it's time for a change!;)

Violet

02-02-2006, 08:48 PM

Maybe that "lost" sequence from Raiders could be revisited and we all know that Lucas has a thing for taking out stuff that doesn't work and later putting it in a different film and with a different connotation. What I find interesting is that Marshall College at www.indianajones.com has included info from outside of the film about the characters so far. I know that Marion was mentioned in the Marvel comics to have a nightclub called the Raven's Nest and me being a Marion Ravenwood fan would like to see a sequence involving her new establishment. For those who like TOD, what if Willie worked for Marion as an entertainer? You could have a cross between the bar fight in RotLA and Club Obi Wan.

roundshort

02-03-2006, 08:07 PM

Careful waht you say I heard the working title is Indiana Jones, and the Mystery of Brokeback Mt.

Indy plays mentor to a young arch. student, where they have to share a pup-tent . . . .

Violet

02-03-2006, 09:26 PM

I know one thing we'll all see...Indy's gonna get laid. :D

Didn't that already happen? Think LC. And what RotLA implied? And I just realised that this is my 69th post! How apt :D

effin

02-10-2006, 01:54 PM

the 3 flicks have the stormtrooper like cronies
nazis
thuggee guards
nazis

also the heavy

beloq (toht)
mola ram
donavan (elsa)

the prize fight
mechanic
thugee strong man
german general

putting this into consideration we can get logical with Indy 4

I'm thinking a young American Beloq type character that indy defeats with his experience and age over this new character's youth.

as far as the central cronies, I'm really not sure.
russian kgb sounds plausible
some evil cult group could happen
some other ethnic group related to the prize (like lao che)
what about mafia

another sequence that I have been thinking about for an action movie is something that happened at the end of the hong kong film Iron Monkey. the characters are fighting up top on log stilts with fire down below, their fighting and jumping from the different logs as they are burning. It's hard to completely explain, but I think it was very original and could be reworked into an american action movie.

one last thing, their has to be a great knockout dragout fight and their has to be the most elaborate booby trap sequence ever put on film, something with gigantic scope.

Webley

02-11-2006, 12:05 AM

Id like to see him use a Webley again.

Finn

02-11-2006, 03:32 AM

beloq (toht)
mola ram
donavan (elsa) Ya forgot Dietrich.

german general That would be Vogel, I s'pose. And he's only a colonel...

garzo

03-02-2006, 07:11 PM

I don't realy care for a son as that's pretty trite, although I wouldn't be surprised if Lucas and Spielberg go that route.

I think having a younger partner would be good though, especially if they find a really good young actor who could maybe carry the torch, say a student or Abner Ravenwood, a young and dashing archeologist who's also Marion's son (but not necessarily Indy's son).

Perhaps young Abner seeks out the retired Prof. Jones for help tracking down his lost ma, who's been kidnapped by . . . take your pick: the Russians, the Chinese, the North Koreans, the East Germans or perhaps by members of a long lost civilization -- Shangri La or something. Or Indy gets caught up in a socialist revolution in South America while exploring a newly discovered pyramid or something. It could be Mosquito Coast meets Stargate Atlantis.

It's been 25 years since Raiders. That means it could be as late as 1960 or so.

phatr32

03-02-2006, 09:15 PM

maybe he could go up against a secret society e.g illumaniti, freemasons, stonecutters...umm wait, that was the simpsons..... etc

like in tomb raider...........dam it

Gustav

03-03-2006, 03:41 AM

Thanks phatr, That made me laugh. I thought about the cult thing too. Have you heard of the Skull & Bones? If not you should look them up.

garzo

03-03-2006, 04:54 AM

Thanks phatr, That made me laugh. I thought about the cult thing too. Have you heard of the Skull & Bones? If not you should look them up.

Skull & Bones?! You mean Indiana Jones vs. The Washington Elite?

Who knows, George Lucas might be game, especially after comparing Bush to a Sith in Episode III.

And there's also a Skull & Bones - Nazi connection too!

Gustav

03-04-2006, 04:52 AM

And there's also a Skull & Bones - Nazi connection too!

Exactly. And there is also another cult called the Knights of the Holy Lance, the Holy Lance being the Spear of Destiny or whatever you want to call it. They claim that the spear in Vienna, Austria isn't the real one, but a duplicate, and the real one was carried to Antarctica by the cult right after Hitler committed suicide, at that time led by Heinrich Himmler. The cult is still operating and they claim that they recovered th spear inthe 70's. This story is a tad bit far-fetched though and I don't see an Indy movie taking place in Antarctica.

phatr32

03-06-2006, 07:29 PM

sweet!! i think we got a winning title for ij4.

INDIANA JONES AND THE HOLY LANCE!!

instead of making it antartica, they could stick it somewhere in the desert again, maybe egypt once more.

steve

Violet

03-06-2006, 09:30 PM

Not going to happen... Last time Indy got involved with a cult, it was received rather badly in most cases...

IrishLuck1980

03-14-2006, 04:26 PM

This movie should be about the King Arthur myth. Let Indiana get Excalibur and beat the crap out of some nazis left-over from WWII!!!!

IndyBuff

03-14-2006, 04:46 PM

This movie should be about the King Arthur myth. Let Indiana get Excalibur and beat the crap out of some nazis left-over from WWII!!!!

That's a good idea, although Indy already discovered Excalibur in The White Witch novel, so I doubt they would use the same story again.

Finn

03-15-2006, 02:51 AM

Also, there's been a fan script about it already, called Sword of Arthur... where Indy actually gains Excalibur and uses it to beat the hell out of some WW II leftover nazis.

Who were you again, the lucky man of the Green Isle?