Who was the worst villian?

[temple of john]

Who among these three villians was the most wicked. The most dastardly, bastard of them all?

[IndyBuff]

It's hard to say because I think all of them definately had an evil side to them. However, I'm tempted to say Mola Ram (lead an evil cult, sacrificed people, used children as slaves, etc).

Belloq and Donovan were both evil but they were also more sophisticated and tended to use others to get their dirty work done. I thought all three made great villians but I'm going to vote for Mola Ram on this one.

[Cammy]

I'm gonna go with Mola Ram, because the others were just bad men, but he is truly, truly evil. He scared me when I was a kid watching him and the rituals they performed.

[Violet Indy]

Well, duh Mola Ram. He did his own dirty work, led an evil cult and was a demonic worshipper. He is the most effectively evil villain.

[Lon]

Based on the replies people are saying Mola Ram was the BEST villain. Do you mean worst villain in the sense of "lame" villain or worst in the actual deeds they did?

[Gustav]

I think Mola Rom was the most vile villain and probably my favourite. He was classic evil right down to the laugh. The worst at being a villain was Donovan so I voted Donovan because that was before I read "Who among these three villians was the most wicked. The most dastardly, bastard of them all?"

Donovan just didn't have it together. I mean he even killed his self. So did Belloq sort of. Donovan chose poorly, Belloq was a power monger and through his actions brought his demise to him. Mola Ram was clinging to Indy trying to rip his heart out when Indy had to burn his hands with a Sankara Stone to make him fall off the bridge and get eaten by crocodiles.

I think the worst villain of all time is Jack Travis from Lethal Weapon 3. He almost got caught by the police about three times during the movie and had to make desperate escapes with a scared look on his face before he got killed with his own bullet.

[roundshort]

MR for the above reasons, and that is who I voted for. But Belloq was my favorite, he was a great counter part for Indy, and I love that he made the Nazis do "a jewish Ritual!"

[Moedred]

Mola Ram wasn't the villain of ToD. He was drugged by Chattar Lal, and snapped out of it when he burned his hand on the Sankara stone. (See script and novelization.) He was more of a prominent henchman... like Indy.

[Gustav]

Is that the official word? It seems they would have mentioned that in the film. They could have cut that out of the script after the novilization was already finished and that way it would have stayed in the novel. Those things happen all the time.

[ElodieJones]

I am the only one to say BELLOQ.
But for he is the worst.
The more vicious, scinic.
He seems nice, but he isn't.
Sometimes we almost like him, he can make people like him but he is a bad guy. A very bad guy.
He is a stoler.
He make nothing, he wait. When Indy found something he comes, and stole the treasure.

I hate that guy.

[darthsidious42]

Mola-ram :dead:

[Violet Indy]

Mola Ram wasn't the villain of ToD. He was drugged by Chattar Lal, and snapped out of it when he burned his hand on the Sankara stone. (See script and novelization.) He was more of a prominent henchman... like Indy.

Wow! Kinda like an Emperor and Darth Vader situation. That might have been why they got rid of that in the plot.

[ROTLA]

This is an odd/difficult question because it depends on how you define "worst" and how it is applied. Here's how I would describe the three:

Belloq - Easily my favorite and, to me, the best written. He has depth and you can see the good and bad sides of this guy. He also has a past with Indy. It isn't clear how often their paths have crossed, but they have obviously had several run-ins. RotLA even starts with one of those situations (idol) before the two battle for the movie's big prize (ark). He isn't even the main enemy - the Nazis are the bigger problem - but he often makes you forget that. Of course that situation alone tells about his character. He's working for Hitler, but is still seeing the Ark as his personal search. You get the feeling he would be more than willing to double-cross the Germans when the time is right. worst when you mean "best/favorite"

Mola Ram - Not as complex as Belloq, but more of the traditional bad guy. He is pure evil. The laugh, the paint, the deep voice, the shaved head...you see/hear him and know he's a bad dude. Come on, the guy rips hearts out!! When it comes to being evil, this guy could shake hands with the devil and walk away unimpressed. worst when you mean "most traditionally evil"

Donovan - Seems to be a poor man's Belloq. Has a little bit of the depth and also has a little background with Indy (donations to the museum). Starts as someone Indy thinks he can trust, but eventually learns you can't trust anybody (he should have listened to Donovan!). Also is not the key figure going after the treasure, but part of the Nazi search. One of the things that hurts Donovan's status is the fact that, unlike Belloq and Mola Ram, he isn't seen often during the film. He basically bookends the movie, playing key roles at the beginning and the end. Sure, he pops up at the castle, but it's a brief showing. worst when you mean "least impact on the story"

[temple of john]

Based on the replies people are saying Mola Ram was the BEST villain. Do you mean worst villain in the sense of "lame" villain or worst in the actual deeds they did?

I should ammend the question. The most evil of villians was Mola Ram while the most devious and intelligent villian would have to be Belloq. I think it a shame that Belloq died in Raiders because how awesome would it be if he returned in Indy 4?

[ClintonHammond]

Not awsome at all, just like all tired rehash....

Best Villian in my book goes to the Nazi Monkey in Raider....

Evil little skite-stain.... I was glad to see him die!
(As one should be with a good villian)

Toht comes a very close second

[indyt]

I had to vote for MR. My favorite was Belloq though. I have always been partial ot Lao che too though we did not see much of him. I wonder if he will turn up in the new indy game?

[temple of john]

I had to vote for MR. My favorite was Belloq though. I have always been partial ot Lao che too though we did not see much of him. I wonder if he will turn up in the new indy game?

Probably. In the screen shots, there is a "Lao Che Lounge" seen in the background.

[indyt]

Cool! Thanks TOJ. Can someone tell me what systems that this game will be able to be played on? I do not keep up with the gaming that much.

[fatima]

MOLA RAN deffinetly!!!
Elodie said Belloq as him being very bad...he stoles Indy, yes he 'chases' him everywhere, that can be annoying and yes he works as villian of Indy has got jelous of him...but did he really wanted to kill Indy and Marion on the well of souls? was was he moved ny the nazis? that was his WORST thing he did to Indy...
Mola Ran that guy was a beast!

[indifan101]

I'm suprised Lao Che and Vogoel didn't make the list? The guy's a nazi, nuff said!

[Moedred]

Okay, I don't know where Chattar Lal ranked in the Thuggee resurgence. He was drugged too: his eyes glow in the script. We don't know who restarted the cult... Pat Roach? Gandhi? Nobody?

The usual way into the cult is to grow too big to work in the mines, like Nainsukh. Maybe Mola Ram was once a kidnapped child himself. But Chattar Lal clearly came from a higher caste. He joined as an adult, maybe even willingly. Who but the Oxford-educated PM could have brought Polynesian volcano sacrifice and Carribbean voodoo together under one stone roof? And he had the brains to sneak away! There's your wickedest villain.

[temple of john]

Cool! Thanks TOJ. Can someone tell me what systems that this game will be able to be played on? I do not keep up with the gaming that much.

This game will be available for X-Box 360 & PS3. I don't think it will be available for X-Box or PS2. I also thought I read somewhere that it will not be for PC either (although I doubt that because they would be excluding so many gamers). Should be out for summer 07'.

[Moedred]

A demonstration of how uninteresting Donovan is: what would sell more units, action figures of Walter Donovan or of Colonel Vogel? Could you even stamp the word "action" on a package containing Donovan's likeness?

[Doctor Jones'89]

I've choosen the dear Rene, but honestly I think that the worst villian is Toht, that man is crazy a real bad guy!!!:dead:

[Ray Delark]

Lao Che :rolleyes:

[Doctor Jones'89]

Yeah, Lao Che is really bad...

[temple of john]

I've choosen the dear Rene, but honestly I think that the worst villian is Toht, that man is crazy a real bad guy!!!:dead:

Toht rocked!!! he was such a mean SOB. That character definately should have been exploited more by Lucas. I mean, for all Toht's talk, what did he really do that was so nasty???

[Bjorn Heimdall]

Toht is a much more traditional Villain then Belloq, which I at first glance didn't even think belonged on that list, but I guess that describes the brilliance of Belloq's character. So after all, he gets my vote.

[Doctor Jones'89]

Perfectly agree with Bjorn Heimdall; Belloq used his great intelligence to dominate the others but he was slave of his unlimited wants to know, and so he had the end that he deserved: roasted by Ark's flames!

[Misha]

MR
He was evil to the bone



Best Villian in my book goes to the Nazi Monkey in Raider....

Evil little skite-stain.... I was glad to see him die!
(As one should be with a good villian)

aaaaw, but I kinda liked that little Nazi monkey :D

[Blackster]

I went for Walter Donovan.

We're talking about an American for starters who tooled up with the Nazis, so first off he's a traitor. He completely manipulates (and admittedly underestimates Indy) in a way neither villain before had. And he's completely without morals - sells out everybody ultimately, even his 'allies', to achieve immortality. That's not even getting onto how he shoots Henry with such calmness and ease you think he were making a cup of tea.

A complete and utter scumbag.

[Niteshade007]

Crap.

I thought the poll was for the "worst" meaning lamest (I hadn't read any of the other posts), so I went for Donovan. The most evil is Mola Ram, but the best is by far Belloq.

[Attila the Professor]

I went for Walter Donovan.

We're talking about an American for starters who tooled up with the Nazis, so first off he's a traitor. He completely manipulates (and admittedly underestimates Indy) in a way neither villain before had. And he's completely without morals - sells out everybody ultimately, even his 'allies', to achieve immortality. That's not even getting onto how he shoots Henry with such calmness and ease you think he were making a cup of tea.

A complete and utter scumbag.

Yeah, I voted Donovan too, for much the same reasons. Belloq had too much humanity to win this particular poll, and, frankly, Mola Ram had far too little.

[IndySeven]

Definitely has to be Mola Ram. I hate that guy!:up:

[Short Round]

Mola Ram, I mean come on, he pulls peoples hearts out.

[oki9Sedo]

Belloq was a good villain. Indy and Belloq are flip sides of the same coin, and Indy knows it though he might not admit it, which I always found interesting. Its classic narcissism of minor differences.

Mola Rom was cool. He was a really over the top, silly comic book villain which was a nice change from Raiders.

Walter Donovan was as boring as a dog's ass.

[Jooones!]

Of course Mola Ram was the worst: I mean he can rip ones heart out and has no conscious and regrets at all. Donovan is more the power hungry, backstabbing *sshole type and Belloq is too complicated and realistic in character to be all-out evil.

[berelain19]

I voted Molaram. He's really scary...in a wrong way
I like Belloq and donovan!

[oki9Sedo]

I wish I was smart enough to read the text accompanying the poll. I thought it was "worst" as in "least favourite", not most wicked and dastardly etc.

In that case it'd be hard to top Donovan. Mola Rom may rip hearts out, but at least he's a man of faith and beliefs. Donovan believes in nothing.

[Jooones!]

I wish I was smart enough to read the text accompanying the poll. I thought it was "worst" as in "least favourite", not most wicked and dastardly etc.

In that case it'd be hard to top Donovan. Mola Rom may rip hearts out, but at least he's a man of faith and beliefs. Donovan believes in nothing.Hmm thats actually a good point...

[berelain19]

Eeeerrrmmm,I thought ''worst'' as in bad acting...

If it's the other meaning I vote Donovan!! He shot Sean Connery! How bad can you get??

[Violet Indy]

Something that many Bond villains envy...lol.:p

[arkfinder]

Ram wins hands down for me. He used kids and femals in very harsh ways to advance his cause.

[oki9Sedo]

Ram wins hands down for me. He used kids and femals in very harsh ways to advance his cause.

At least he was trying to advance a cause. Donovan was just doing everything for himself.

[Inbanana]

Ah, I meant to vote for Mola Ram not Donovan... anyway, as for Belloq, the last time I watched Raiders, I got the impression that he's really not that bad a guy... well, at least compared to Indy. Like when he told Indy "I'm a shadowy reflection of you. It would take only a nudge to make you like me.", I think thats true. Indiana Jones comes off at times as more of a cold blooded, murdering, grave robbing thief than a hero... I mean ya, sure he only kills people who are trying to kill him, but I also never got the impression that he lost a lot of sleep over it either. I guess he'd more of an anti-hero. I agree that Toht was worse than Belloq...

[Niteshade007]

But since Belloq does seem so perfectly normal, wouldn't that make him seem much more evil? I know it's kind of a contradiction, but the man shows signs of humanity, yet still is out for himself at the end of the day. To me, that would make him more of a risk, because you're never really sure if you can trust him.

And Donovan was incredibly lame. He was a lesser version of Belloq. Mola Ram seemed like a pure evil force, making him very scary, but ultimately unrealistic. As others have said, at least he had a cause, but that would make him even scarier because he truly feels what he is doing is right "for his cause." So, I would rank the villains as follows:

1. Belloq - one of the best villains ever, in my opinion. He is smart, sophisticated, and a great match for Indy (because as others have mentioned, he is a "shadowy reflection of Indy")
2. Elsa - even though I still have not warmed up to the film, she certainly has intrigued me. Her character is nothing that hasn't been done before, but it was handled well and I like her for that.
3. Mola Ram - he's scary, he's evil. Not much else to say about him.
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4. Donovan - I barely consider him a villain.

[Indy's Fist]

Rene Belloq. He would have sold his mother's soul to the devil if it ment he would make money. I hate that guy! Indy should have kicked his a--!

[Attila the Professor]

Rene Belloq. He would have sold his mother's soul to the devil if it ment he would make money. I hate that guy! Indy should have kicked his a--!

Belloq, care about money? No offense, but everything you said there sounds a lot like Donovan.

[No Ticket]

Lao Che was awesome. I always have wondered what Indy's adventure that we "catch up to" at the beginning of TOD was like before the movie started and what it was like after the TOD "detour" ... Lao Che tried to double-cross Indy, poison him, pump him full of lead a few times in that club and he even almost killed him in a plane crash.

That's one bad dude.

[Ohio Jones]

I have to go with Belloq... He's brilliant (Which I don't think Donovan was) and willing to work with Nazis... That's evil and wicked enough for me.

[Indy's Fist]

Belloq, care about money? No offense, but everything you said there sounds a lot like Donovan.

I should have said power, sorry. Good call!

[Shortie]

Belloq's not that much of a villian in my eyes. Never did anyhting that could be called evil, just a rival. Donovan he shot Indy's dad, that was pretty evil in my eyes. The way he dosen't even look at Henry beforeb shooting makes it even more evil. Mola is just pure evil. Elsa was just a Nazi pawn.

[Indy's Fist]

Belloq did want to kill Jones in the bar. He was saved by Salah's kids. Also Belloq stole the gold stature from Indy at the begining of "Raiders".

[fortuneandglory]

I'd say Mola Ram. Evil, just completely evil. That's my kind of villain! One you can completely hate. Not that the other villains don't have their place!

Belloq - A darker shade of Indy. Very similar characters, and the interplay between him and Indy is extremely intriguing. The character development that Indy has as a result is fantastic, and makes it a joy to watch. Although we all know that Indy, despite the layer of dirt and the shady methods, is no Nazi. Indy's morals have their limits, and he won't stretch past those. And we can all relate to hating that simpering French slime!

Donovan - Seems likeable at first, but a little to hungry for that grail. Then the twist! He is revealed as one of the Nazis! Or at least he is working with them. A classic adventure dogma. Once again, very well played and very easy to hate. He's a bit like Belloq, actually... but less clever.

Mola Ram - So completely evil... he is the classic adventure villain. He wants the world, and subtlety seems to be lost on him. He hangs fingers up from idols, he worships a god of death and murder, he makes his victims drink blood, he pulls their still beating hearts out of their chests, and he enslaves little children. He is completely and utterly hateable. No redeeming qualities. We need this in this movie, since the real objects of our hate in the other movies are the Nazis.

Mola Ram just happens to be my favorite... aside from Lao Che...

[Indy&HanFan]

definatly mola ram

[TheMutt92]

Dang it! When you said 'worst' I thought you meant like 'least interesting baddie' or something. So I put Donovan, but I meant Mola Ram (can't get more evil than that!)

[The Man]

Mola Ram by a mile. In fact, they should have laced the audio for Skull with his laughter to keep Indy on his toes...

[Sam Falco]

Well lets look at the specific question of the poll... Its not asking who the most in-depth or charcter-driven of the villains is, its asking which is the WORST of the worst, the most evil, horrible of the bunch. So if thats the question, that has to go to Mola Ram.

That man was doing all these horrible things to people, CHILDREN even and it never even crossed his mind that maybe he shouldnt have children whipped and forced to work in a dark cave for months without food or water... Then there was the dunking people in lava stuff. Someone mentioned that he does it for "his cause" but I think that the ending fight with Indy shows exactly what Mola Ram's feelings on "the cause" are. He could care less about his Gods or their agendas, he has his own agenda and he just wants power, personally, I think the man never gave a damn about anything in the cult, he just liked to inflict pain and suffering on people and wanted followers to help him do it, then lets not forget his ultimate goal! World domination! Come on, a guy like THAT ruling the world? Now, picturing a guy like Donovan ruling the world is like "Yeah, the guy is a dick and self-serving, but what politician isnt? Beloq wouldnt bother with that sorta thing, but Mola Ram is evil and despicable mass-murderer! He'd be worse than Hitler in some aspects, because Hitler distanced himself from it, wheras Mola Ram was right there DOING all these horrible things, I wouldnt put it past him to whip the kids himself a few times a day.