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IAdventurer01 05-30-2008 06:10 PM

"Do you know how many medals this *** won?"
 
In an attempt to create a thread about Indy IV that isn't "I loved it!" "I hate it!" "You're stupid for your opinion!" I pose this question:

What do you think Indy did during WWII?

It's something I had never really thought of before seeing the movie. I'd have a hard time imagining him as a "double agent" for too long, seeing as he should probably be on Nazi most wanted lists everywhere for all the damage he's done. :gun:

jg23 05-30-2008 06:24 PM

Indy was a damn good spy during WWI...so i'd imagine he created just as much havoc for the Germans during WWII.

eroc 05-30-2008 07:32 PM

What a great question. That is definitely something worthwhile to ponder. How do you think he felt going "back in the lion's den", as a double-agent? Maybe he volunteered for that one. "Hey guys, I've infiltrated the Nazi ranks wearing a Nazi uniform twice before. I got this."

Crusade>Raiders 05-30-2008 07:44 PM

Hey, once you met Hitler face-to-face and have the autograph to prove it, I think he automatically gets the job as a spy. I do kinda wonder how Mac and him did out in Germany, I'm sure his face was on every "Most Wanted" list in the country.

Little Indy 06-03-2008 03:42 AM

Yes very good question. I've been thinking about this one too. I like to think he was involved in commando type infiltration missions, then once getting behind enemy lines assuming a false identity. I would love to see, if they ever made a movie, Indy finally getting to parachute out of a plane. He's done everythig esle in one, so why not.

Gamingboy 06-03-2008 02:45 PM

I remember from the Secret Journal that he took part in the D-day invasion, and ended the war near Flensburg (which was the last place that Nazi command used as a headquarters. See here.)

I also seem to recall a mention of the Enigma machine during Crystal Skull, but I might be getting that mixed up with something else.

Jones_Happens 06-03-2008 02:50 PM

I'd read a comic series or novel about his ww2 adventures if it was done well.

jamesdude 03-01-2009 12:16 AM

Indiana Jones was a former Nazi, he quit when he saw the abuse the Nazis were putting the world through.

Lance Quazar 03-01-2009 12:28 AM

One of the OTHER things I hated about Crystal Skull - the references to Indy's war years.

The fact that he worked as an undercover spy in German during the war is awful.

But more egregious is the suggestion he and Mac "spied on the Reds" at some point after the war! And quite a bit, from the dialogue.

Huh? Didn't he have, like, a life and career to get back to. He's not friggin James Bond, he's Indiana Jones!!!

Morons. Sheesh.

DocWhiskey 03-01-2009 12:42 AM

Yeah but Indy's had tons of adventures prior to WW2. He's an experienced guy when it comes to danger and action. So why not put him to good use in the Military.

James 03-01-2009 12:54 AM

I don't think the comments were meant to be taken at face value. After all, Indy essentially worked as a government spy in ROTLA.

According to Lucas, the general idea is that he performed similar work during the war. Far from being James Bond, he would've been attempting to retrieve further artifacts from the Nazis.

Dewy9 03-01-2009 10:53 AM

I assumed that Indy worked like a consultant for the army. They have the occasional special thing they need him to do and he'll do it.

emtiem 03-01-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance Quazar
The fact that he worked as an undercover spy in German during the war is awful.

But more egregious is the suggestion he and Mac "spied on the Reds" at some point after the war! And quite a bit, from the dialogue.

Huh? Didn't he have, like, a life and career to get back to. He's not friggin James Bond, he's Indiana Jones!!!


Look at Raiders- he's less trying to find an archelogical prize in the Ark than preventing the Nazis from getting their hands on an uber weapon. He pretty much is James Bond; he just has a special subject.

oki9Sedo 03-01-2009 12:30 PM

Whatever he did, one thing's for sure. He was a royal, royal pain in the ass for the Germans.

The Drifter 03-01-2009 01:29 PM

He was kicked outta the Army.
Something about how they put him on mine-sweeping duty, and he kept trying to find buried treasure with the equipment.

WilliamBoyd8 03-01-2009 01:58 PM

Somehow I always thought that he would have ended up
identifying archaeological treasures stolen by the Nazis from
European museums.

:)

Quickening 03-01-2009 07:53 PM

Yeah, I'm amongst those who doesn't like the idea of Indiana Jones as a soldier. I think his outlook on life would be far too philosophical than to side with anyone in a conflict like that and I just can't see him at the beach landings at all. To me it's pretty much at odds with the character we know from the trilogy and especially the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Giver and taker of life anyone?

But to answer the question, I'd imagine that Lucas had in mind that as others have suggested he'd be up to his World War One antics again.

Kevin 03-09-2009 05:08 PM

Indy is an American patriot, he would have served his country in WW2 without question. His knowledge of history and languages would make him a perfect candidate for an intelligence officer.

However, Indiana Jones was a world-renowned archeologist. Heck, Chattar Lal recognized his name almost immediately. As such, I do not feel that he would have been a "behind the lines" sort of operative. As has been mentioned, he has killed so many Nazis by 1939 that his face must have been plastered all over Germany. The Gestapo may have even had people out looking to kill him. What Nazi is going to fall for it when Indy shows up in Germany undercover? My thought is that Indy would have been attached to Army Intelligence, but stationed Stateside or in England, analyzing information and decoding German communiques with Eaton and Musgrove. He might have occasionally been sent to recover artifacts whilst racing against the Nazis, ala ROTLA and TLC, but for actual behind-the-lines operations and commando work, Indy was too well-known, and frankly, too old.

I also agree with Lance that after the war was over, Indy would have returned to academia and archeology, not continued to "spy on the Reds." However, Indy as a post-war spy is at least a little more plausible, because he could have been stationed in Berlin, ostensibly as an archeologist or academic, while secretly gathering info on the Commies for the US govt.

Indy_Forever 03-10-2009 01:51 PM

Spy
 
I believe he must've been a spy as i'd say he's better as a spy than a gunman. And he was excellent in WW1. So he must've been a spy in WW2

Indy86 09-25-2016 10:03 AM

I think it's an interesting question. Last thing I know from the books is that Indy was in Belgium in the Legacy of Avalon in 1940 but in 1943 he was searching for the Lost People in America.

Maybe in some way, Indy sort of did the same kind of work the O' Connells did in The Mummy Tomb of the Dragon Emperor. Work for the government. Do I consider Indy as a soldier? Maybe not in the traditional sense as in actually going into battle or be at the landings in Normandy. I think his reputation as archaeologist and the findings of the Ark and the Grail and other things showed how valuable he could be in the war.

If I think about it, I can imagine the officials offering him jobs under the rank of Colonel and allowing him to help think out and participate in operations like in ROTLA, even though he wasn't happy about how it ended that time. But if it involves archaeology, I can see him become a spy. And even if he was well in those forties by then like I think most colonels and generals, I think he still saw plenty of action during those days.

What do we actually understand under 'spying'? The well-being of historical sites that are about to be bombed? Maybe he was a Monuments Man.

I think it also depends when he became a spy. The Lost People is set in 1943. Maybe he was just a spy in the final years of the war until the Infernal Machine or the Air Force fiasco in 1947. Those are still four years for spying.

Lance Quazar 09-26-2016 12:30 AM

The definitive answer -

http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=23263

inky_skin 09-29-2016 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance Quazar


Still a great read !

Lao_Che 06-22-2017 09:22 PM

The Complete Making of book says Indy "went on many spy missions, liberating art and precious artifacts from the Nazis."

Which must have been quite a ride for a famous archaeologist.

Kai Hagen 06-27-2017 06:17 PM

I imagine his WWII experiences to be like this, except for the military uniform:



And judging from the Indy movies, I think his WWII espionage and artifact recovery adventures made him intermingle with a lot of frauleins.

dakota 06-30-2017 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamingboy
I remember from the Secret Journal that he took part in the D-day invasion, and ended the war near Flensburg (which was the last place that Nazi command used as a headquarters. See here.)

I also seem to recall a mention of the Enigma machine during Crystal Skull, but I might be getting that mixed up with something else.




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