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preyer 06-07-2004 10:06 PM

Barnett or Marshall?
 
bartlett or marshall college? which one did indy work at?

Tennessee R 06-07-2004 10:10 PM

Niether, I don't believe.
I think it was Barnett for the movies.

Junior Jones 06-07-2004 11:08 PM

He apparently taught at both. Maybe sometime between movies he switched schools.

According to the books, he taught at the University of London right out of college and then taught at Princeton a few years later.

Gregoire Defence 06-08-2004 12:22 AM

I've compiled a list that you can find on the Indy Experince.com
http://www.theindyexperience.com/

1925- Indy teaches at the University of London right after graduating from grad school (Indiana Jones and the Dance of the Giants)

1927- Gets fired, because he is depressed (long story) (Indiana Jones and the Genisis Deluge)

1930- Indy acepts a teaching postion at Princeton (Indiana Jones and the White Witch)

1935- Indy apparently resigns at Princeton and starts teaching at Marshall College. This is the college he teaches at in Raiders. (Raiders of the Lost Ark)

1937- Indy gets a new job at Barnett College. Compeats with rival professor (Indiana Jones and the Arms of Gold)

1938- this is where Indy teaches in Last Crusade (Last Crusade of course)

Fool of Atlantis 06-08-2004 06:33 AM

Indy was teaching at Barrnet in Fate of Atlantis as well.

Junior Jones 06-08-2004 09:34 AM

Marshall-Barnett College

I like that. Is that your own theory or that from something official?

Indy_Jones88 06-08-2004 09:46 AM

I think that is true. I have heard that somewhere before.

Lightning 06-08-2004 01:30 PM

Although Marshall is the popular name for the college in Raiders, the name never appeared on screen. Barnett, on the other hand, did. Since the Indy's classroom is the same in both movies, (including the buildings visible through the window) I am forced to conclude that he taught at Barnett in both movies.

Gregoire Defence 06-08-2004 01:48 PM

Did y'all just ignore me?
Okay

Finn 06-08-2004 01:55 PM

Relax, Greg. No one didn't ignore you... there's just been some very good arguments that it might be the same college in both movies... which actually sounds pretty good and structurally believeable, though I am one of them who at least this far lived in faith that they are two different schools in Raiders and LC.

Gregoire Defence 06-08-2004 02:03 PM

Except for the fact that Marshall College was mentioned by name numerous times in the Futhur Adventures of Indiana Jones comics my Marvel (1936) right after Raiders, and Barnett was mentioned by name in Last Crusade (1938) and Fate of Atlantis (1939)

Finn 06-08-2004 02:08 PM

But plenty of stuff in the Indy timeline must be considered apocryphal... (e.g. Emperor's Tomb is in conflict with McCoy novel Dinosaur Eggs on the case of Wu Han), so it's really difficult to tell.

I, however, still do think that they are two different schools (so don't ya worry Greg, I'll back up your opinion).

Gregoire Defence 06-08-2004 02:11 PM

thanks dude ;)

Katarn07 06-08-2004 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Finn
But plenty of stuff in the Indy timeline must be considered apocryphal... (e.g. Emperor's Tomb is in conflict with McCoy novel Dinosaur Eggs on the case of Wu Han), so it's really difficult to tell.

I, however, still do think that they are two different schools (so don't ya worry Greg, I'll back up your opinion).



I caught that too but I just thought it was hilarious when Indy goes, "Yeah, who the hell are you?!" so I didn't mind it too much. Of course, that'd conflict with the fact Wu Han 'followed Indy on many adventures' so the book is more believable.

The books, comics, and video games (like the SW ones) have some conflicts and they're usually worked out with facts like Greg posted. I'm sticking to that theory. I didn't know Indy taught at Princeton. I stopped reading the books after the Unicorn one (awful, awful book).

preyer 06-09-2004 09:11 PM

oops, i meant barnett, not barlett. :)

it's 'obvious' that it's the same college in raiders and tlc simply from marcus' presense, isn't it? unless brody switched museums to match indy's location, which still didn't seem to take him too far away from dad, who presumably still lived in the same house in utah. and the classroom still looked basically the same in both movies, so i'm satisfied that indy never changed colleges in that time.

marshall was the first college i heard mentioned, so that's the one i'm stuck on. the problem with that is there's already a marshall college, though that's not to say it was around 60 years ago.

i'm glad i'm not alone in wondering which he worked at, though. i was beginning to think i was pretty dumb, lol.

Katarn07 06-09-2004 09:59 PM

But Preyer, Marcus has nothing to do with the college itself, but rather with Indy. He's a museum curator and goes where Indy is for the artifacts to add to his museum's collection. They're long time friends also, so I don't think Marcus minds the drive (if there is one).

Tennessee R 06-10-2004 12:31 AM

I think the real question is:
Is the gum stuck to Indy's shoe, or to the coal shute? :D Fate of Atlantis
Is the bookshelf still overturned, upstairs in Barnett? :D Fate of Atlantis


No, I usually think of Barnett, when I think of Indy teaching.
Maybe it's bacause I like Last Crusade best, or maybe it's because Barnett plays such a crucial part in Fate of Atlantis.

Finn 06-10-2004 01:36 PM

Let's not forget that we even have one post-war sequel in Indy's adventures, the IM. Though it does not tell what Indy did between that incident and FoA, I wonder what are his stats in 1947. Okay, he is an archaeologist doing a lone wolf dig in the American southwest, but there actually is an indication in the game that Indy still does work for the Barnett College. (Okay, it's a far shot, but I still consider it as an indication to that.)

But before I reveal what it is, let's see if you others have any idea of what I might be talking about...

Marcus Petrius 06-10-2004 02:56 PM

Is it in the newspaper article from the intro movie with the red line?

Joe Brody 06-10-2004 02:59 PM

I don't think so because the line starts from San Francisco (Treasure Island) and works West. No names as far as I recall.

Marcus Petrius 06-10-2004 03:07 PM

I thought there also was a newspaper article saying something along the lines of 'Eminemt professor searches in American southwest' or something like that. The 'camera' pans to that article after showing the 'Iron curtain down on Europe' headline, as far as I can remember.
It's been a long time since I've last played IM.

Mike

Finn 06-10-2004 03:21 PM

The thing I'm talking about are the crates. As you know, there are several crates scattered around the game, and they have something written in them either in Russian, German, English or Japanese. The thing that combines them all is that on top of them there reads the sender. The sender of the Russian crates is "Volodnikova", which is a nice pun, indicating that Volodnikov's wife sent them out to the field. Can't say what do the markers on the Jap crates say, the German crates have something sent to Horner from Germany... but what we're interested in are the crates with English on them.

And they do say:
BARNETT COLLEGE ANTHROPOLOGY DEPT
ATTN DR JONES

Which indicates that they were sent to Indy by his very own school.

(Yeah, I know... this is pretty vague, but it's a cool thought nevertheless.)

Joe Brody 06-10-2004 04:18 PM

I'm way off-base here. I thought we were talking about the red-line journey in Raiders. Sorry, I'm not a gamer and I didn't really read the above posts carefully. My bad.

Finn 06-11-2004 08:01 AM

Anyway, this does not clearly state that Indy would still be working for the Barnett College, but I think that at least the game designer team thought they did while adding that in.

It's funny. Barnett was in just one of the movies, but to majority of the fans it is THE college Indy works in.

Luckylighter 06-11-2004 12:02 PM

I know this has been posted already, but I think it was Barnett for both movies just because it is the exact same classroom in both films.

However, if I'm not mistaken, in the "From Star Wars to Indiana Jones: The Best of the Lucasfilm Archive" book, the model miniatures for the set designers are labeled differently for both movies. The "Raiders" classroom has a Barnett label, while "Last Crusade" has a Marshall label. I'm at work and away from my bookcase, so I can't verify this right now, but if someone has the book reletively handy, they can confirm this for me.

Regardless, I'm still convinced they were the same college. But, then again, until I discovered these fansites back in February, I still thought Indy taught at Princeton in "Raiders" and "LC". Of course, I was basing this on the "Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" and the fact that his father taught there in the series, and the campus looked so similar to the one from the movies. But that's just me, I'm just that type of cat.


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