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Toht's Arm 06-11-2012 10:08 PM

Gwendoline Christie for Indy V
 
Okay, so I realise that folks here think it unlikely Indy V ever happens, but if it does, can I humbly suggest Gwendoline Christie as an actress with which Indy has a fist fight? We know that he's likely to go head to head with someone much larger than him, as is always the case, and how about if that someone was a woman? Might mix things up a bit...

For those who haven't watched Game of Thrones, Christie plays Brienne of Tarth, a female knight. At 6'3", the actress can be quite imposing.







Thoughts?

Rivers 06-12-2012 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Toht's Arm
Okay, so I realise that folks here think it unlikely Indy V ever happens, but if it does, can I humbly suggest Gwendoline Christie as an actress with which Indy has a fist fight? We know that he's likely to go head to head with someone much larger than him, as is always the case, and how about if that someone was a woman? Might mix things up a bit...

For those who haven't watched Game of Thrones, Christie plays Brienne of Tarth, a female knight. At 6'3", the actress can be quite imposing.







Thoughts?

(in my best Mike Myers, Doctor Evil voice)..... How about Nooooooo....

Mickiana 06-12-2012 06:16 AM

I reckon 'why not?'. She might offer a bit more menace, or at least dramatic threat, than did Cate.

Vance 06-12-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickiana
I reckon 'why not?'. She might offer a bit more menace, or at least dramatic threat, than did Cate.


Since the average Hollywood starlet is typically a tiny thing, this woman could definately a pulp Amazonian henchmen. She's attractive (when not battle-worn as a knight, obviously), and would be more than imposing for the typical 5'6" firebrand pulp women.

inky_skin 06-12-2012 02:25 PM

Whatever his other faults are, Indy is never going to slap a dame.

Rivers 06-12-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickiana
I reckon 'why not?'. She might offer a bit more menace, or at least dramatic threat, than did Cate.



I do believe He is suggesting her for just a fist fight not the leading villan like Cate was.

So in that case....why??? We have already seen Indy win fist fights with 6'3 men, why would a fist fight with a female be a dramatic threat??....

Toht's Arm 06-13-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivers
I do believe He is suggesting her for just a fist fight not the leading villan like Cate was.

So in that case....why??? We have already seen Indy win fist fights with 6'3 men, why would a fist fight with a female be a dramatic threat??....


First off, I should point out that I think the franchise's obsession with featuring certain elements in every film is a bad idea. We don't really need to see him have the college scene/have the baddie killed by the artefact/have Indy square off against a much bigger opponent etc...but we do see it, time and time again.

So, if they were insistent on this particular aspect, I thought it would be a nice variation on the theme. They could play up the idea that Indy would never hit a woman - and then have her pummel the sh*t out of him, eventually forcing him to take her on.

And you're right, I was suggesting her for the part of 'muscly goon', but there's no reason they couldn't make the role more substantial in other ways.

Mickiana 06-13-2012 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivers
I do believe He is suggesting her for just a fist fight not the leading villan like Cate was.

So in that case....why??? We have already seen Indy win fist fights with 6'3 men, why would a fist fight with a female be a dramatic threat??....


What Toht's Arm said and maybe a dozen more good reasons. Use your imagination.

Kernunnos 06-26-2012 01:43 PM

I do not ever want to see Indiana Jones having a fist fight with a woman.

I don't care if he's 80 and she's 10 ft tall.

dlupus 06-26-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kernunnos
I do not ever want to see Indiana Jones having a fist fight with a woman.

I don't care if he's 80 and she's 10 ft tall.


ROFL! I kind of agree... A younger Indy fighting a woman would be cooler than an &0 something Indy... But no punches he would have outsmart her and trick her!

Randy_Flagg 06-27-2012 01:10 PM

I don't see why people think Indy would never punch a woman. I could totally see him doing it. If she's threatening to destroy the world or something, why not? I think people tend to always associate "punching a woman" with "spousal abuse," but that's not accurate. If the woman poses a serious threat, sometimes you have to do something. Hell, even goody-two-shoes MacGyver punched a woman in the TV movie, "Trail To Doomsday." Anyone remember that? She was about to launch a missle, and Mac needed to stop her, so punched her and knocked her out. I think that was totally justified.

Lao_Che 06-27-2012 03:33 PM

She could be effective in the Pat Roach role. If she's the bigger and stronger fighter I don't see the problem with Indy defending himself. He did so in Emperor's Tomb against the Feng Twins.

Heck, if he's reluctant to throw a punch there could be something in Indy having to succeed by other means.

Indy's brother 06-27-2012 03:49 PM

Just to be a jerk....uh, make that, "Just to *play devil's advocate".....Indy did punch a girl in the beginning of TOD (albeit a stoned case of mistaken identity). Furthermore in the position of devil's jerk, allow me to continue by saying that Indy exists in a very bigoted universe where not only black people don't exist, but other groups (including genders) are painted with a very broad stroke of one-dimensional stereotypes. You want to alienate fans that already couldn't withstand a different slant on the Indy adventure? Have him punch a woman in the face a dozen times onscreen. Whatever your mental image of how an action scene like that could work, it would alienate viewers. Fans and casual filmgoers alike. Indy may not exactly be Dale Carnegie, but he's not really one to use his pimp-hand, either.

Randy_Flagg 06-27-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy's brother
You want to alienate fans that already couldn't withstand a different slant on the Indy adventure? Have him punch a woman in the face a dozen times onscreen. Whatever your mental image of how an action scene like that could work, it would alienate viewers. Fans and casual filmgoers alike. Indy may not exactly be Dale Carnegie, but he's not really one to use his pimp-hand, either.


I guess I just don't see how it would alienate people. Of course, it would have to be set up properly-- We'd have to see that the woman poses a very definite threat to either Indy or someone he cares about, or to the world. Obviously no one is proposing that he should walk into the kitchen and say to Marion, "Where's my dinner, b-itch?!" and punch her in the face (that might alienate people), but if the woman is a threatening villain, giving Indy no choice but to fight back, then sure, why not? I think most people would be okay with that. But again, it all comes down to how the scene is set up.

Indy's brother 06-27-2012 04:45 PM

It's been attempted once in the franchise already. Henry Jones III had his butt handed to him by Spalko, and also got to get pounded in the groin several times while doing so. It didn't seem edgy, or make us think Mutt was any more interesting. That's the type of scenario that would keep audiences from disliking Indy for fighting a woman, but it's not one that I would like to see: Indy losing a fight with a girl/comic foil.

Mickiana 06-28-2012 02:54 AM

Because of her size, we would expect her to be a physical adversary. If she were presented as being mean enough and butch enough, then I don't see a problem with Indy doing what he has to do in order to scrape through again. He plays dirty in order to play again another day. Like Randy Flagg says, it could work depending on how it's set up.

Túrin Turambar 06-29-2012 05:57 AM

It wouldn't work, she's a man.

Mickiana 07-06-2012 01:06 AM

It wouldn't have to be a fight with fists. It would be much more interesting if it involved wit and cunning. If she were shown to be as threatening with ploy as with physical presence then it could be quite a confrontation for Indy to get out of once again.

Archaeos 07-09-2012 06:32 AM

That's an interesting individual of whom - until this thread came along - I had never heard before.

Of course all the relevant points have already been mentioned, and I particularly agree with Indy's Brother here.

I could see her included in a Pat Roach-type role rather than a Cate Blanchett or Alison Doody-type of role.

The problem is just that it is a very fine line the screenwriter would have to walk to make Gwendoline Christie look appropriate, as in "fitting into the narrative", have some substance, rather than just being showcased as some freakish hench(wo)man as we know them from the James Bond 007 films. The latter I would disapprove of for Indiana Jones - hence why I am now somewhat worried that Lucas might find that idea appealing and pen an entire plot just around her ;) .

Toht's Arm 07-09-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaeos
hence why I am now somewhat worried that Lucas might find that idea appealing and pen an entire plot just around her ;) .


I'd like to think that Lucas comes to places like this for inspiration, but then again, maybe that's why he seems so paranoid, indecisive and offended when talking about sequels of his beloved classics... ;)

JediJones 09-16-2012 06:58 PM

He already did punch a woman in Club Obi-Wan.

Mickiana 09-17-2012 12:54 AM

If he used her head as a speed ball and uttered a few nyuk nyuk nyuks, yeah then I would say they stuffed it. But physical presence in his adversaries has been a bit of a tradition I think, don't you? If done cleverly, with wit and cunning written into the scene(s) then I cannot see why not. She's only 6'3', not 7'3'. She's unusual, not freakish. I've met woman 6'5' or taller and they didn't seem freakish, just a few of the times I've had to look up to a woman while standing in front of them!

Moedred 08-29-2017 04:41 PM

Low accuracy but high precision on this pick for Lucasfilm.

If you're catching up on Game of Thrones, this will spoil a lot. Gwendoline Christie is still in it. I was hoping Indy alums Julian Glover Jim Broadbent would share the screen but they (spoiler) just missed each other between seasons 6 and 7.

hismasterplan 08-29-2017 06:25 PM

She'd be an awesome sidekick.

Forbidden Eye 08-30-2017 02:40 AM

Never seen Game Of Thrones, so my only knowledge of her is from The Force Awakens(I guess LucasFilm generally had the same mindset that Toht's Arm did).

Given the history of Indiana Jones reusing Star Wars actors, it's entirely possible her being in Indiana Jones 5, though it's not exactly something I would want.


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