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ROLLERBALL 07-28-2013 04:34 AM

Japanese making of Last Crusade documentary
 
Stumbled across this japanese documentary, which has behind the scenes from Last crusade
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v160165433StrAa9g

Moedred 07-28-2013 10:31 AM

Awesome find, Rollerball!
Deleted scenes: kids crossing burning board in Temple of Doom at 30:00, Last Crusade camel spit at 54:00.

ROLLERBALL 07-28-2013 01:25 PM

would be great to have this in better quality. It always amazes me how this footage has to be hunted down. I thought there would have been a definitive making of with the blu ray.
There is a lot of footage from indy 3 out there but not in the same place.

Stoo 07-28-2013 01:35 PM

Wow!
 
I-N-C-R-E-D-I-B-L-E!
Thank you for finding this, ROLLERBALL! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!:up::up::up:

This is a treasure trove of rare stuff, from the motorbike chase to the gimbal-mounted biplane. The bit with Spielberg at the canteen truck is a hoot and it's cool to see more of the camel spit, too.

In addition to the kids crossing the lava is another deleted part on Ben Burtt's editing screen! Indy picks up a piece of lumber to fight the Thug Guard but seemingly realizes that the wood won't do the big guy much harm so he turns away and drops it, looking for something else. (This was obviously intended as a comedy moment immediately before Indy picks up the hammer.)

Can't wait to try fixing the angle & colour of these deleted "Doom" scenes so that they look at bit better.

(An extra bonus for me was behind-the-scenes footage from the 1936 version of, "The Charge of the Light Brigade"!:D)

Once again:
Thank you for finding this, ROLLERBALL! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!:up::up::up:

ROLLERBALL 07-28-2013 01:39 PM

Happy to find and share it stoo.
I am a big fan of Indy 3 and would love to see this footage cleaned up

Dr. Gonzo 07-28-2013 04:08 PM

Wow that was really great. I've never seen those bits the Japanese crew filmed on the set in Marin for the motorcycle chase. Loved seeing Spielberg doing his thing. A set's mood and demeanor is always set by the director, and Spielberg's seems like a fun yet focused one.

Nice. :up:

russds 07-28-2013 04:35 PM

Wow, Amazing, thank you!!!!! Someone may want to download this, incase it mysteriously disappears - I can but not till work tomorrow. Such a great find, and yes, it's amazing how much footage must be out there in little virtually unknown TV specials and what not. Amazing find of the burning bridge - I never thought I would get to see more complete footage of that, and Indy evaluating the wood log against the big thuggee, also always a treat to see the Master Spielberg directing on set. Just. Utterly. Fantastic!

Moedred 07-29-2013 11:41 AM

Made a slight title change.

The bit with the wood is page 105/106 in the Temple of Doom script, followed by Indy's first voodoo stick spasm.

russds 07-29-2013 03:08 PM

Just watching this whole thing through, I realized it seems this was a Japanese crew on set filming behind the scenes stuff, and interviews. At certain points during directing Spielberg addresses the camera in Japanese. It reminded me of the Temple of Doom soundtrack, that for a long, long time was only available from Japan, as a Japanese import, which I always thought was odd. I know Spielberg likes to keep a very closed door on his making of stuff, so the fact that this Japanese crew had cameras on set during the making of LC seems like kind of a big deal.

I thought I remembered some rumor that the reason the ToD was only available on Japanese import was because the Indiana Jones character was owned by a Japanese company (Yes, I know this sounds very much like "I remember a falling egg in ToD) so it could very well be just another one of those rumor myths with no proof. Just wondering if anyone else heard this? or maybe it was just my imagination spurred by the ToD soundtrack.

micsteam 07-29-2013 06:33 PM

Sorry guys maybe I'm an idiot but how do I get the whole thing so I see the TOD stuff and everything, I only have the 5 minute preview.

Phlip 07-29-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoo
Can't wait to try fixing the angle & colour of these deleted "Doom" scenes so that they look at bit better.

Be sure to post it, hey. :)

Hanselation 07-30-2013 09:33 AM

@ ROLLERBALL

Thanks!!!! Great find. Very impressive new material. This "new" stuff gave me a feeling beeing back in 1989! :up:

ROLLERBALL 07-30-2013 10:58 AM

I felt the same too. Takes you right back to 1989. What amazed me at the time was that there was very little behind the scenes of Indy 3 when it first came out.

Stoo 07-31-2013 06:25 AM

Good News: Better Copy - Coming Soon!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ROLLERBALL
Happy to find and share it stoo.
I am a big fan of Indy 3 and would love to see this footage cleaned up

I will be getting a better quality recording of this documentary and will be sharing it. :D :D :D

ROLLERBALL 07-31-2013 11:31 AM

Nice one stoo. Will you be getting hold of a copy or cleaning up this one.

Stoo 07-31-2013 02:38 PM

NEW COPY!:up: The image quality is much better. However, it's missing audio in one place and video in another so I'll be combining the two sources to make the best complete version (until something better comes along).

Missing video: Luckily, it isn't any of the Indiana Jones footage.
Missing audio: The 2 sources aren't synchronized so I need to futz around to make a match.

For those of you who don't know how (micsteam) or are too lazy (Phlip) to watch the full thing via Rollerball's link, sit tight. A superior version will be available soon.;)

I also have information about the show, which would make a great addition to the Last Crusade TV Specials page of TheRaider.net, but will post that stuff later.

ROLLERBALL, I cannot thank you enough for finding this RARITY!:hat: In my opinion, your discovery is the most exciting thing to have happened at The Raven in quite a long time!:up::whip:

Dr. Gonzo 07-31-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoo
ROLLERBALL, I cannot thank you enough for finding this RARITY!:hat: In my opinion, your discovery is the most exciting thing to have happened at The Raven in quite a long time!:up::whip:


Pale Horse 07-31-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micsteam
... I only have the 5 minute preview.



Stoo 07-31-2013 04:39 PM

Gonzo, you might want to double that silly .GIF because (believe it or not) there is an element of this documentary that connects with...The Doors!:D

Dr. Gonzo 07-31-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoo
Gonzo, you might want to double that silly .GIF because (believe it or not) there is an element of this documentary that connects with...The Doors!:D

:confused: do tell!

russds 08-01-2013 08:54 AM

What an exciting thread, and discovery. @stoo, I'm anxiously awaiting what you've found, and any details on this incredible discovery.

Stoo 08-02-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo
:confused: do tell!

The matte painter who is interviewed, Yusei Uesugi, also worked on Oliver Stone's, "The Doors" movie. (It's been a long time since I've seen that film and am wondering what matte paintings it had.:confused:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by russds
I know Spielberg likes to keep a very closed door on his making of stuff, so the fact that this Japanese crew had cameras on set during the making of LC seems like kind of a big deal.

This actually isn't too surprising because, as you may already know, it is common for major celebrities to do Japanese media gigs that they would never, ever do at home. For doing very little, a whack of cash can be made far away from the North American eyes that may criticize them for "selling out".

Harrison Ford did 5 Japanese TV commercials for Kirin beer in 1994 (and was seemingly embarassed when one was shown on a talk show in 2008). Lucas has done *at least* 6 Japanese TV commercials for Panasonic, starting in c.1987 and into the '90s.

Granted, this documentary is a different animal to TV commercials but Lucas' Japanese exclusives were already happening when this was shot. Maybe it was his association that eventually led to the crew being allowed firsthand coverage? Who knows?:confused:

(Incidentally, that toy robot that Spielberg is showing is a Japanese toy from the '50s. In the West, it was called Smoking Spaceman and replicas of it are still made today. It's quite likely that Spielberg had one when he was a kid and brought it out to cater to the Japanese audience.)

Dr. Gonzo 08-02-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoo
The matte painter who is interviewed, Yusei Uesugi, also worked on Oliver Stone's, "The Doors" movie. (It's been a long time since I've seen that film and am wondering what matte paintings it had.:confused:)


You got me. I don't recall anything worth a matte painting either...
hmmmm.

Anyway, when can we be expecting the cleaned up doc on Stoo TV? :D

Stoo 08-02-2013 02:30 PM

Title of the Show
 
NHK Special (NHK Supesharu)
The Pioneers of the Visual Revolution
21 May 1989

NHK is Japan's public broadcasting corporation, which is funded by donations instead of commercial advertising, exactly like PBS in the States, etc. (this is interesting because "The Making of Raiders" was shown as a PBS special back in '81).

This programme was shown 3 days before "Crusade" opened in North America (May 24th) and 2-3 weeks before it opened in Japan (June 8th).

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Some more futzing is required but it will hopefully be uploaded within the next couple of days. (I'll be away for most of August and want to put it on YouTube before leaving.):D

Stoo 08-05-2013 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russds
What an exciting thread, and discovery. @stoo, I'm anxiously awaiting what you've found, and any details on this incredible discovery.

Russ, what a shame that many other Ravenheads don't have the same amount of enthusiasm as you do! A golden nugget of Indy-history has been uncovered but there are no comments about it from the usual "Last Crusade" lovin' muppets.:rolleyes:


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