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jsarino 04-30-2014 12:06 PM

What Indy jacket do you own?
 
Djd1 indirectly inspired me to post about Indy jackets, and that I don't see a thread on jackets in a search. :) I don't have an Indy jacket myself, but I'm looking around and want to hear about what kind you have, and if you like it (or even don't like it)! Thanks in advance. :up:

Djd1 04-30-2014 12:24 PM

We really are spoilt for choice these days...

The current Todds offering looks very good value and accurate. It does seem to depend upon which batch of leather he has at the time though.

The Kelso looks great but is at the top of the price bracket. There's also US Wings of course. Well made as a real world jacket.

Wested are good value for money too although more so for those on my side of the pond.

Also Magnoli. I used to have one. Nicely made but the pattern is somewhat out dated now since the advent of Tony Nowaks Raiders copy which spawned the Kelso, Wested Hero and Steele and Jones ... Lots of choice!

jsarino 04-30-2014 01:18 PM

I suppose from the "reasonable" standpoint, I do like the Wested and Todd offerings. I would have to wait a bit if I ordered the Wested version (overseas shipping and such). Djd1, did you get your Wested with the satin sleeves, or had the inner lining all cotton? Anyways, my offer to buy your Wested is still on the table, though I wonder how it'll fit me...my jacket size may be different from yours. :p

Djd1 04-30-2014 01:23 PM

I got the cotton sleeves. I always do if there's an option. Satin sleeves are always the first thing to go in my experience.

jsarino 04-30-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Djd1
I got the cotton sleeves. I always do if there's an option. Satin sleeves are always the first thing to go in my experience.


Good to know...thanks for the tip!

Sakis 05-01-2014 04:53 AM

When it comes to hats, jackets, whips etc. my approach is: go to the original supplier, so I'm the proud owner of a 15-year old Last Crusade lamp skin Wested :hat:

jsarino 05-01-2014 12:35 PM

@Sakis--any pics of your Wested today? :) After reading the history of the Indy jacket through the films, it's almost as colorful on its origins as the fedora.

I'm just about settled to get the Wested shrunken lambskin...thanks for all the input! :hat: I need to measure myself for a good fit, and will order this in the next month or so. Since summer is coming up around here, it'll be odd to get this while it's 90 degrees Fahrenheit outside. :p

Djd1 05-01-2014 01:22 PM

The wested Hero pattern is definitely their most screen accurate for Raiders. Keep in mind though that the fit is odd. It's meant to be. The Raiders jacket is constantly sliding about on Ford's shoulders. The last crusade jacket is much more conventional in that respect.

S. Dakota Jones 06-01-2014 12:07 AM

I have a Todd's that I won ebay for a great price! It was already heavily distressed and it fits great too. I am probably going to Wested to have a ToD jacket made(made on request even though Peter has stated they will add the option to the website). But other than the pocket size, the one I have now will work for now.

Sakis 06-01-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarino
@Sakis--any pics of your Wested today? :)






Sorry for the quality of the pics but I used my mobile phone. As you can see at the bottom front the jacket has been stitched differently when the lining was replaced a few years back. Other than that the jacket is holding up pretty good.

jsarino 06-02-2014 11:15 AM

Thanks for sharing those pics, Sakis. :) The Wested is still on my wish list!

micsteam 06-03-2014 09:22 AM

I have a Wested I bought used on an other forum, I like it but I'd like a custom jacket to my measurements. In the near future I'm getting a a Custom Wested Hero Raiders. Can't go wrong with a Wested but Steele and Jones make an excellent jacket (I'm considering one now) and Bill Kelso make an unbelievable jacket but quite expensive if not "THE" most expensive but if money's not an object Kelso could be the way to go. :hat:

Djd1 06-21-2014 04:12 AM



My gorgeous new Relic Hunter from Bill Kelso....

Goodeknight 06-23-2014 08:45 AM

WESTED!

Tailored to my measurements. When people admire it and say, "Nice Indiana Jones jacket," I get to say, "Yeah, I had it custom made in England by the company that made them for the movies."

Why go with anything else?

Djd1 06-23-2014 01:15 PM

Well, because they don't make the best jackets... I've owned four Westeds but they only got the Raiders look right once they were able to copy a Tony Nowak, because Tony was leant an original to copy. The Wested hero is now a good pattern but only Bill Kelso and Steele and Jones have been using the correct raiders leather.

jsarino 06-23-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djd1
Well, because they don't make the best jackets... I've owned four Westeds but they only got the Raiders look right once they were able to copy a Tony Nowak, because Tony was leant an original to copy. The Wested hero is now a good pattern but only Bill Kelso and Steele and Jones have been using the correct raiders leather.


So now in your opinion the Bill Kelso or Steele and Jones if budget isn't a concern?

Sakis 06-23-2014 02:01 PM

How can it be that the original maker doesn't make good copies? Is there something I don't get?

Djd1 06-23-2014 05:34 PM

It's a long and convoluted story but to put it simply Peter who now runs Wested, would have made the Raiders jacket like any other disposable film project. It wasn't until years later that anyone saw the commercial possibilities of manufacturing replicas for the public. By then it was pretty clear that the patterns for Raiders at least no longer existed. Wested could always make a good Crusade jacket but that was quite a different beast to the Raiders jacket in that it has a much more conventional fit. After Tony Nowak got the job of mmaking the jacket for CS he was apparently lent an original raiders jacket by lucasfilm to copy. The Wested hero, Steele and Jones and Kelso all come about as copies of this copy in one way or another. Don't get me wrong, the Wested Hero is a great jacket but Peter hasn't sourced and striated lamb that high definition prints of raiders clearly show the jacket was made of.

Money no object the Kelso is the best replica. Higher quality construction and higher quality leather but the Steele and Jones is also very good in terms of looking the part.

jsarino 09-30-2014 11:57 AM

I'm resurrecting this thread because I want to get some opinions on the leather itself. I've come across a couple of people that are selling their Westeds, both at the same size I'm looking for. One though is made of goatskin, the other lambskin, both claiming to be the "Hero" jacket. Which would you guys recommend as far as leather to go for?

jsarino 09-30-2014 06:47 PM

Ugh, so I measured myself and I'm 39". The two Westeds are 38R. For you Wested people, is it safe to assume that they are measured exactly as they are, not bigger or smaller than the size indicated? Thanks in advance.

jsarino 10-03-2014 04:12 PM

Well, I let both offers go on the two Westeds I looked at. Instead, I purchased a Todd's (Coyle's) Indy jacket, and it arrived today at the office:




I need to do some "aging" to mine soon. :)

Drones33 10-04-2014 07:19 AM

Looks great.
I agree with DJD1 regarding the Wested. Great value for those of us in the UK. Ive had mine for a few years and its beginning to look nicely battered. I think if I lived in the U.S. though I`d probably be more inclined to go for Todds myself. Indeed its only the prohibitively high shipping costs that prevented me getting the rest of my gear from Todds.

jsarino 10-05-2014 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Drones33
Looks great.
I agree with DJD1 regarding the Wested. Great value for those of us in the UK. Ive had mine for a few years and its beginning to look nicely battered. I think if I lived in the U.S. though I`d probably be more inclined to go for Todds myself. Indeed its only the prohibitively high shipping costs that prevented me getting the rest of my gear from Todds.


Thanks! You're right...conversely for me, I'd be doing what you're doing and getting your gear mostly in the UK or EU too if I were there. As it stands, I may be getting more Todd's gear to improve on what I've gotten so far. Though one exception is that I might be getting a authentic MKVII bag from a guy in the EU to replace my replica. Also, I still may get a Wested custom tailored jacket in the future, but for now, I'm enjoying breaking in the jacket. :)

Goodeknight 10-06-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djd1
Well, because they don't make the best jackets... I've owned four Westeds but they only got the Raiders look right once they were able to copy a Tony Nowak, because Tony was leant an original to copy. The Wested hero is now a good pattern but only Bill Kelso and Steele and Jones have been using the correct raiders leather.


The Wested Hero is an odd jacket that looks costumey in my opinion. And something about the lack of lining and some other details strikes me odd, and being that thinly tailored it doesn't seem like it would move well or be very comfortable.

And I went with goat for the toughness of the jacket. It's practically bulletproof, especially compared to lamb.

As for the affordability with shipping from overseas, I see it as a lifetime, perhaps generational expense. I'm 43, bought the jacket maybe 7 years ago, and will probably pass it on to my son when he grows up. So a few extra bucks is incidental in the long run.

Regardless of copies, revamps, and copies of copies, my preference is still to have a jacket made by the original makers.

Glenville86 10-28-2014 12:13 AM

US Wings
 
Just ordered a US Wings Texas Steerhide “Legend” Jacket.


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