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oki9Sedo 12-31-2006 10:47 AM

Why is Temple of Doom a prequel?
 
Its got absolutely no connection to Raiders of the Lost Ark in any way whatsoever, so they might as well have just made it a sequel and set it in 1937.

ClintonHammond 12-31-2006 11:43 AM

Have you not seen the movie?

The Indy in Temple is different from the Indy in Raiders (And WAY different from the Indy in Last Crusade)

If I thought that George, Steven and Harry did it on purpose I could go on for a long time about the evolution of the Indy character.... But I don't.... I think it was just dumb luck that Indy did as well as he did... even a blind squirrel gets a nut occasionally.

oki9Sedo 12-31-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ClintonHammond
Have you not seen the movie?

The Indy in Temple is different from the Indy in Raiders (And WAY different from the Indy in Last Crusade)

If I thought that George, Steven and Harry did it on purpose I could go on for a long time about the evolution of the Indy character.... But I don't.... I think it was just dumb luck that Indy did as well as he did... even a blind squirrel gets a nut occasionally.


Sure, Indy's a lot more light-hearted and fun in Temple of Doom than in Raiders. He was very serious and grim in that film most of the time. So what?

Moedred 12-31-2006 02:50 PM

Raiders is set in 1936. The Battle of Shanghai was lost to Japan in 1937, so I think that's why Doom is set in 1935.

IrishLuck1980 01-01-2007 07:15 PM

I think Lucas was smokin grass.

oki9Sedo 01-04-2007 09:58 AM

Why making Temple of Doom a prequel doesn't make sense:

1. Harrison Ford has aged three years, and he's supposed to look one year younger.

2. The plot of Temple of Doom has absolutely nothing to do with Raiders. If Indy had died in Raiders, then obviously they would have had to make Temple of Doom a prequel.

3. "I don't believe in magic, alot of superstitious hocus pocus"-spoken by Indy in Raiders. Voodoism, Sankara Stones and possession didn't quite do the trick then.

George Lucas still doesn't get it either. If its to do with them wanting to do an adventure not involving Nazis, they didn't have to set it before Raiders to accomplish that, they could have just set it in 1937 India rather than 1935 India.

As for the Battle of Shanghai argument, they could have set it in 1937 before that battle.

quigonkyle 01-04-2007 09:26 PM

A reason for it being a prequel could have been the relationship with Indy and Karen Allen

oki9Sedo 01-05-2007 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by quigonkyle
A reason for it being a prequel could have been the relationship with Indy and Karen Allen


Well Last Crusade was a sequel, and it didn't have Karen Allen.

Grizzlor 01-08-2007 08:48 PM

You also have to question why The Last Crusade was set in 1938, 8 years after Raiders was made, but only 2 years in the films? I know that the real life German Otto Rahn who looked for the Grail died in 1939, but the historical realities were still in place by at least 1943, when Italy was seized by Germany and the war in Europe really was getting larger. There was no need to refer to the area as the Republic of Hatay, which lasted 9 months, but simply Turkey.

oki9Sedo 01-09-2007 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Grizzlor
You also have to question why The Last Crusade was set in 1938, 8 years after Raiders was made, but only 2 years in the films? I know that the real life German Otto Rahn who looked for the Grail died in 1939, but the historical realities were still in place by at least 1943, when Italy was seized by Germany and the war in Europe really was getting larger. There was no need to refer to the area as the Republic of Hatay, which lasted 9 months, but simply Turkey.


Because WWII began in 1939. They wanted it set before the war, but during the rising of the Nazi regime, like Raiders.

René Belloq 01-27-2007 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by oki9Sedo
Why is Temple of Doom a prequel?


Because Temple is set in 1935 and Raiders in 1936.

Fish1941 01-28-2007 05:12 AM

The only ones who can answer this question are George Lucas and Steven Spielberg. And quite frankly, I don't care.

Chris Jones 02-02-2007 06:05 PM

I always considered it to be a sequel even trhough it displayed the year in letters at the bottom of the screen in the beginning.

When they released the movie, the trailer said nothing of it being a prequel it made it sound more like a sequel. So im sure there alot of people who think it is a sequel rather than prequel.

René Belloq 02-03-2007 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ClintonHammond
even a blind squirrel gets a nut occasionally.


What is with you and the blind squirrel? That's at least the second time you've posted that line.

ClintonHammond 02-03-2007 09:59 AM

Shows what you know... That phrase comes up an awful lot in relation to Indy...

Vlad Dracula 02-06-2007 01:17 AM

Give him a bit more back story?

Dr.Sartorius 02-06-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oki9Sedo
Its got absolutely no connection to Raiders of the Lost Ark in any way whatsoever, so they might as well have just made it a sequel and set it in 1937.


A more intriguing question would be why ISN'T Casino Royale a prequel?

JK_Antwon 02-12-2007 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ClintonHammond
Have you not seen the movie?

The Indy in Temple is different from the Indy in Raiders (And WAY different from the Indy in Last Crusade)

If I thought that George, Steven and Harry did it on purpose I could go on for a long time about the evolution of the Indy character.... But I don't.... I think it was just dumb luck that Indy did as well as he did... even a blind squirrel gets a nut occasionally.


I hate to admit it, but ClintonHammond makes sense.:whip:

Baron Brunwald 02-26-2007 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by René Belloq
Because Temple is set in 1935 and Raiders in 1936.


Hahaha, nicely put.

James 02-26-2007 09:23 PM

I once read that Spielberg/Lucas didn't want Indy mixing it up with Nazis again, so they just set it before Raiders. I really don't think there was much more to it than that.

Adolf Hitler 12-14-2007 04:57 PM

Why is Temple of Doom a prequel?
 
Ok, I've long wondered about this, but why is Doom set before Raiders? I've personally never seen an explanation for it and would be very grateful if anyone has any production notes of making of material that gives some sort of answer to this!

Deckard 12-14-2007 05:08 PM

Bcuz it was a cool idea. Maybe the first prequel? Not 100 % sure about that tho.

ResidentAlien 12-14-2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Deckard
Bcuz it was a cool idea. Maybe the first prequel? Not 100 % sure about that tho.



Haha... no.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prequel

Deckard 12-14-2007 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ResidentAlien


Thanks, cool page and something Ive often wondered about. I dunno about GF2, granted it has alot of time spent on Vito's Flashbacks, but rly, its Michael's story..

salussolia 12-14-2007 05:56 PM

Its becuase they wanted a new indy girl and did not want ot explain what happened to marion


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