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I really think this is probably the last. It took Lucas forever to come up with another good idea for a film and then it took over a decade to make that actually happen. Ford is already 65 and by the time another gets made he'd probably be 67 or so. Not saying that would really make much of a difference, but it might.
PLUS. We've explored most aspects of his character by now. The only thing left really is to see how his age has affected him. On knowledge/wisdom, maturity, physicality, financially and possibly even in love. I don't know if it's been confirmed or not since I've been staying away lately... but if Mutt is indeed his son that's just another aspect of his character we'd explore that would be exhausted after KOTCS. Another thing, the year in this film is 1957, and it is likely a future film would be set in or around the same time-frame and wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) center around Russians again. Finally, I think they'd be out of good ideas for stuff like the "phobia" stuff and such. Like the snakes, rats, bugs, etc. And you know what. I really really don't want to see the Adventures of Mutt. I like Shia, but this is not his series. I don't care about him. Even if I like his character I don't want to see movies about him adventuring. I only care about Dr. Indiana Jones thank you very much. His name is in the title, this is his adventures and his stories. So I don't really want or care to see the franchise carry on in spin-off sequels. There is an expression that goes, I think, "One more brush stroke would ruin the painting." Sometimes, things are good as they are. You think you need more but more would be overkill. Also, "All good things must come to an end." Everything. Life itself does not last forever, neither does the Indiana Jones series. ALLLLLlllllll that being said. Doesn't mean I don't kind of want to see another. But I haven't even seen this one yet!? If they could come up with something worth seeing, TRULY worth seeing, I'd probably still go see it. |
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Yeah, Lucas might like the idea and use it, but don't expect him to say "a fan came up with it and his/her name is_____." From his comments about "fan expectations" for KOTCS, I think it's safe to say that though fans have (and continue to) funded his empire Lucas seems to have a disdain for them (us). If there's an Indy 4 my friends...the beards have already talked about 5. INDY 5! |
Like I said the Stones were a real drop from the Ark, but TOD was pretty good. So maybe use some of the lesser Bible artifacts.
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They should do Atlantis... for God's sake, ATLANTIS!! You know... Orichalcum... Nur-Ab-Sal... Sophia Hapgood!
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Yeah it really is. Ford isn't getting any younger. He's 65 in real life and plays 55 in Indy IV. He's not going to still be able to play a mid-50s character when he's pushing 70. Let's face it, they may be able to get away with it now as Ford is playing 50-something, but in a handful of years no one besides the major fans would pay to see a 70 year old globe trotting for artifacts.
The only way I'd really predict another doing great(if Indy IV does) is if the main three are up for it and they begin shooting Indy V later this year or the next. And that won't happen because Spielberg is booked up for several films already. I love Indy, the original trilogy is perfect and the series was great while it lasted. Indy IV is like a special treat just for the fans, for old time's sake. No need to wear Indy's welcome out. |
Vendetta08, that was well said, even though I don't want to think like that. I'm a positivist and an idealist and I'd like to think that Indy 5 could be done well if they come up with a good story and that would seem easy enough to do. I don't know how it took 19 years to come up with another story or good enough script. That doesn't sound feasible so there must have been other factors. Hollywood sounds like a fickle place and I know fear of risk is a major theme in the minds of the Hollywood bigwigs. But Indy 5 would have to be a winner if the same team were working on it.
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Raiders112390, I think when Harrison said he would do Indy in a New York Minute, that was like 5 or 10 years ago and Indy 4 was still in development hell. It's on youtube, go check it out. He was being interviewed by that Barbara Walters chick.
As for your ideas for a 5,6, and yes even a 7 - never gonna happen! Besides the fact that your own story ideas are pretty lame (I don't mean to br rude), obvious, and not something Speilberg would touch with an elongated Staff of Ra; Speilberg and Ford are pretty much booked up for the next number of years with other projects. By the time they got around to figuring out a way to do another one, it really would be Indiana Bones and the zimmerframe of alluminum carbonate! Look, I don't wish to rain on your parade, because I have no right to do so, nor do I have any more knowledge than anyone else, but perhaps we should be thankful for this (most probably final) Indy movie and enjoy the moment. I saw Raiders first time round in the movie theatre and I have watched it a gazillion times on vhs and now DVD ( I drive my girlfriend crazy when I mouth every line of Raiders while we watch it). I have done the same with the others too and will no doubt enjoy KOTCS on blu-ray one day. It never has to end becaue... we can watch it whenever we want. The law of diminishing returns applies to everything, including Indy. Lets hope KOTCS is great (and I think it will be) and then freeze Indy in a seal of quality for future generations to enjoy. Do we really want to keep going and turn this wonderful group of films into James Bond (21 and counting) Sure Casino Royale was kick ass, but we had to endure Moonraker, View to a Kill, Tomorrow Never dies before we got there... need I go on? So I say, thanks Harry, Steve, Georgie. Thanks for the most amazing movies I have ever seen and lets quit while we're all ahead. |
I agree, dont push your luck, if this works out then great but do we really need a 5? I'd rather have Ford commit to a few seaons voice overs for an animated series.
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Moonraker, Octo***** and A View To A Kill are all pretty great movies. So, yeah, I wouldn't mind more Indy. Casino Royale stunk due to the awful Daniel Craig! Each to his own, I guess. |
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Moonraker... good movie? Have you been drinking from the false grail or something? Ok, ok, it's your opinion and I can't argue with that. I was trying to illustrate the point that we don't want to mess with something for too long and eventually turn out a dud. But really, Moonraker? Even the guys who made it were ashamed of it and tried to reboot the franchise with For Your Eyes Only. Ok, ok, I know, it's your opinion. But stay away from the false grail man, it'll kill ya! |
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Moonraker earned a friggin' ton of money. The public voted with their asses on seats. Casino Royale is so far up it's own backside! Tongue in cheek adventure is what we seek, I tell ya! Those Moore Bond films, especially Moonraker are very Indy-esque in attitude, even down to the Amazon setting. |
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A lot can say this and that... there can even be big bold words in a TV spot that says "Indy's Last Adventure" and it still mean bubcus! Before SW Revenge of the Sith came out, in the very last TV spot (i believe) they said something like... the very last StarWars installment. Now they're working on an animated film... what... 3 years later? :p Not to mention the live action TV series they've confirmed to start working on here soon... and then the animated TV series... and rumor has it they may even do a live-action film based inbetween III and IV... Just because someone says "it's over" don't mean it's over... That's the way things work in the movie business... people regret saying things ALL the time... after Batman Begins Christopher Nolan said he wasn't gonna make a sequel... just leave it hanging... but here we are with The Dark Knight... |
I like the "pagan" artifacts from long gone civilizations... but it seems to me that it was the Bible artifacts that did the best... the Ark... the grail...
What if they did something in the future along the lines of... Moses' staff... The Sword of David... The Ten Commandments... or whatever... And as for Harrison... all he needs to do is keep in shape... and exercise... Spielberg is booked for the rest of this year with The Trial of the Chicago 7... as well as 2009 with Tintin, Lincoln (which I will definatly see) and Interstellar... I say at the very beginning of 2010 they begin shooting for Indiana Jones V... Harrison will be 67... Not too much older than 65... Do one final movie with Harrison as the main character... this time hunting a Biblical artifact... like... the Ark! (Noah's... :p )... Set up Mutt's own future adventures and him taking the mantle of his father... maybe have Indy give Mutt his hat as a gift before retiring. Indiana Jones VI (or rather "Mutt Jones") is about Mutt Jones' adventures... at the very beginning of the film he still dresses in a motorcycle jacket and regular shirt and pants (but he does where the fedora)... Mutt goes on some great adventure taking his dad (Indy being the 2nd Main Character) along with him (Last Crusade type thing). By the middle of the film Mutt has accepted the entire outfit... have Mutt borrow his dad's whip during the adventure. With Mutt's Adventures it's a good opportunity to introduce some new, young, leading lovers (which Indy IV lacks, and Indy V will probably lack). May I recommend Natalie Portman? Have Mutt's adventure be based around King Arthur's Sword or something... |
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Where to begin... ok, I know, you began with money, so shall I. Casino Royale (not my fav by a long shot - I was born a Connery guy and I'll die a Connery guy - he is Indy's Dad after all) is the highest grossing bond for years. The pubic went in droves and voted with their asses to see The Phantom Menace too. Doesn't mean it was any good. Moonraker has about as much in common with Indy as German skin flicks have with the Sponge Bob Square Pants. It is universally acknowledged (well almost) as one of the worst Bond movies of all time, even by the guys who made it. You can't get worse press than that. Anyway, this thread is about Indy 5 and methinks we run the risk of annoying the mods if we continue with Bond. |
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So, you're telling me that everyone views The Phantom Menace as a poor film? Delusional person you are, sir. It's all preference. Moonraker not like Indy? Wrong. As I said before, tongue in cheek adventure. Perhaps you have been watching different Indy movies? Movies in which Indy ponces around in a humourless manner. Sort yourself out, newbie boy. (By the way, it's Sankara stones.) |
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Not to worry, OLD BOY! Sort yourself out? LOL...SORTED! |
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Shia just isn't Harrison Ford, he doesn't have the same charm. Mutt just isn't Indiana Jones and I have no intent to pay to see a movie that begins with "Mutt Jones and the (insert title here)." Carrying the series off with Mutt would be a sad cheap attempt by Lucas to keep the franchise dough rolling through a tired spin-off. Lucas will be having enough fun with his Star Wars tv shows. And with that said, I'd love an Indiana Jones cartoon series that takes place in the 40s far more than a lame tired spin off with Mutt Jones. |
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NO! Just to the Mutt stuff, that is. The day Indy gives his hat to Mutt is the day I kill Shia Lebouf. |
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You're going to make a lot of friends here. I've seen this newbie cocksure/aggresive attitude many times. You need to learn that there are other people with differing views and preferences to your own. How old are you? You present yourself as a teen. Quit the juvenile bravado. You're not worth my time. ;) |
Spielberg could of has Lincoln released last year if he really wanted to. I think they should end at 5. Then have an animated series, switching back from the 30's/40's/50's.
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And now you have resorted to calling me a newbie and a teen with juvenile bravado. Oh this is just delicious! Ironic that you have just described some of Indy's most endearing traits (thank you very much for attributing them to me, I am flattered) which make his character and thus by extension the films light, funny (seriously look it up) and happy go lucky - just like you like them. But really, I didn't know that new(bie) people (I joined in Jan 08 having read this site for years) must pay homage to Old Man Gruber. I can just picture you now, sitting there on your porch shouting at the juvenile newbie's to stay off the grass. At least until they've paid their dues by agreeing with Herr Gruber. Ok, listen, you signed off by saying that I'm not worth your time. Fine with me Old Man. But I was willing to duke it out (opinion-wise). You can cut and run. As for me, well, I'm a happy go lucky 35 year old who is proud not to have lost his youthful exuberance completely. Thank you for that gift. Sorted. |
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There is nothing to 'Duke out' as you call it. I have stated my preferences and you have stated yours. However, you insist on a 'Chip on the shoulder' manner. Do you have an inferiority complex, is that it? |
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And we're back... If there's nothing to "duke out" as I call it (wow, did I invent that expression - I'm pretty sure it's out there awhile), then how is it we have differing opinions which we've been toing and froing on for the last hour. I'm happy to discuss the merits of mine versus yours any day of the week and twice on Sundays (isn't today Sunday?). Then you keep throwing in these handy little non-sequiturs (newbie/juvenile/ and the lastest one - do you have an inferiority complex?). Random or what? I'll have you know that I have a chip on both shoulders. It keeps me perfectly balanced. Look, am I correct in saying that yo want an Indy 5 etc? If so, my opinion is that it probably won't happen and would be a bad idea. Either construct an argument and debate (being humourous is optional but preferred) or don't. But if you are going to reply ( and I hope you do cause I'm not even warm yet) really put some thought into it. Because you may not think I am worth your time, b ut it is becoming painfully obvious that you are not up to the challenge poor Marcus and therefore, not worthy of mine.:gun: P.S. And please tell me when I graduate from newbie status. Do I get a diploma or anything? |
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Right, for starters, my initial reply was regarding your Bond comments. I aired my views on Indy 5 long ago. If you seek a good debate, why have you wasted my time having me read incendiary jibes? I sense anger in you, young Skywalker. It's too late to take the 'Let's have a good debate angle.' Re- read your childish, name calling replies. I would never stoop to such levels. Once there was a newbie, Hurting like a boy, Sitting at his keyboard, trying to annoy, Mommy never hugged him, Daddy never tried, With each and every posting, His aggression was implied. Well, usually I wouldn't stoop to such levels. |
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