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Vendetta08 05-03-2008 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Shortie
Spielberg could of has Lincoln released last year if he really wanted to. I think they should end at 5. Then have an animated series, switching back from the 30's/40's/50's.

It would be great if Ford voiced Indy for a cartoon show.

Forrestal1972 05-03-2008 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by herr gruber
Right, for starters, my initial reply was regarding your Bond comments. I aired my views on Indy 5 long ago. If you seek a good debate, why have you wasted my time having me read incendiary jibes? I sense anger in you, young Skywalker. It's too late to take the 'Let's have a good debate angle.' Re- read your childish, name calling replies. I would never stoop to such levels.

Once there was a newbie,
Hurting like a boy,
Sitting at his keyboard,
trying to annoy,

Mommy never hugged him,
Daddy never tried,
With each and every posting,
His aggression was implied.


Well, usually I wouldn't stoop to such levels.
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha! This is delightful. Really. And you actually believe that I am annoyed. My poor, dear Gruber. How honoured I am that you have taken the time to compose this for me. I must have really gotten to you! Priceless. But seriously, I would have used the word amplified rather than implied. Just a suggestion. I think it reads better. It would make more sense too. However, it's your poem. I don't wish to criticise the master wordsmith. And you wrote it just for me. I am truly touched. Oh, and just a point of order me laud; there was never any intention for a pandering "lets have a real debate", but rather an "I'm game if you are". Instead I get this. Which is twice as delicious. I am going to invite everyone I can to come and look at this. Really, I'm going to make you famous. I can't belive that my humble little posts have provoked such illustrious prose. I would almost suggest you become a writer. Hang on, let me check you public profile.... You are a writer. And an actor. And a musician. So talented. And I love the Star Wars reference. I sense much anger... lol! Oh I'm hoppin mad am I. Mola Ram Suda Ram! Ha ha ha. Seriously though, Gubber, you took all that time to compose this little ditty for me. Think about it. Really think about it. You look silly! But you don't mind looking silly. It says so in your public profile. I really hope you come back with another reply like this one. No one is going to believe this. Please keep 'em coming!

herr gruber 05-04-2008 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Forrestal1972
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha! This is delightful. Really. And you actually believe that I am annoyed. My poor, dear Gruber. How honoured I am that you have taken the time to compose this for me. I must have really gotten to you! Priceless. But seriously, I would have used the word amplified rather than implied. Just a suggestion. I think it reads better. It would make more sense too. However, it's your poem. I don't wish to criticise the master wordsmith. And you wrote it just for me. I am truly touched. Oh, and just a point of order me laud; there was never any intention for a pandering "lets have a real debate", but rather an "I'm game if you are". Instead I get this. Which is twice as delicious. I am going to invite everyone I can to come and look at this. Really, I'm going to make you famous. I can't belive that my humble little posts have provoked such illustrious prose. I would almost suggest you become a writer. Hang on, let me check you public profile.... You are a writer. And an actor. And a musician. So talented. And I love the Star Wars reference. I sense much anger... lol! Oh I'm hoppin mad am I. Mola Ram Suda Ram! Ha ha ha. Seriously though, Gubber, you took all that time to compose this little ditty for me. Think about it. Really think about it. You look silly! But you don't mind looking silly. It says so in your public profile. I really hope you come back with another reply like this one. No one is going to believe this. Please keep 'em coming!

You took the time to view my profile? That's creepy, man!

Glad you liked my prose. I aim to please. Please do show it around. No publicity is bad publicity. And yes, I am adult enough to not care if I look silly!
Infact, I love it! But then, you know that after stalking my profile... Am I really that important to you, Forrestal? Is this a case of hero worship? I am flattered, too. Let's get married.

Forrestal1972 05-04-2008 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by herr gruber
You took the time to view my profile? That's creepy, man!

Glad you liked my prose. I aim to please. Please do show it around. No publicity is bad publicity. And yes, I am adult enough to not care if I look silly!
Infact, I love it! But then, you know that after stalking my profile... Am I really that important to you, Forrestal? Is this a case of hero worship? I am flattered, too. Let's get married.
And it just gets better and better, but at least you seem to be getting into the spirit of things. Stalking? Hmmmn, that's why they call them "PUBLIC" profiles! It would be stalking if it were private. If you don't want it publicly available, perhaps you should delete it. However, I happy for you to frame it as you like Grubie.
It's fortunate that you don't care if you look silly... as you frequently do!
And perhaps you should look up the words hero and worship. I think you have become confused.
As for the proposal... well, I'm flattered. And I can see the attraction, for you. But I think the Herr in the Gruber would pose a significant issue and neccessitate a life-style change on my part that I just not willing to make. Thanks though. No, really (he says slowly backing his way out the door).

Ok, seriously though Grubie baby, this is where ole Forrestal cashes in. Sleep beckons and it's another day closer to the great man's return. However, should there be any doubt that I am retiring from the field of battle (debate/ childish jibe throwing by me/inane poetry-scary proposals from you)for any reason other than the need to catch 40 winks, I will return. Just like James Bond actually. :D

herr gruber 05-04-2008 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Forrestal1972
And it just gets better and better, but at least you seem to be getting into the spirit of things. Stalking? Hmmmn, that's why they call them "PUBLIC" profiles! It would be stalking if it were private. If you don't want it publicly available, perhaps you should delete it. However, I happy for you to frame it as you like Grubie.
It's fortunate that you don't care if you look silly... as you frequently do!
And perhaps you should look up the words hero and worship. I think you have become confused.
As for the proposal... well, I'm flattered. And I can see the attraction, for you. But I think the Herr in the Gruber would pose a significant issue and neccessitate a life-style change on my part that I just not willing to make. Thanks though. No, really (he says slowly backing his way out the door).

Ok, seriously though Grubie baby, this is where ole Forrestal cashes in. Sleep beckons and it's another day closer to the great man's return. However, should there be any doubt that I am retiring from the field of battle (debate/ childish jibe throwing by me/inane poetry-scary proposals from you)for any reason other than the need to catch 40 winks, I will return. Just like James Bond actually. :D


Too late, Forrestal. I was asleep twenty minutes ago. Ha! I win. Inevitably, of course.

Forrestal1972 05-04-2008 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by herr gruber
Too late, Forrestal. I was asleep twenty minutes ago. Ha! I win. Inevitably, of course.
Typing in your sleep? Is there no beginning to this man's talents?

Ok, ok, you win. Happy? Now take your nitol and go to sleep. If you can't sleep you can always try counting little Shia's .

Forrestal - cashing in!

herr gruber 05-04-2008 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Forrestal1972
Typing in your sleep? Is there no beginning to this man's talents?

Ok, ok, you win. Happy? Now take your nitol and go to sleep. If you can't sleep you can always try counting little Shia's .

Forrestal - cashing in!

I'm not reading this, Forrestal. I've been asleep for about thirty minutes now.

(I must have the last word):hat:

Forrestal1972 05-04-2008 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by herr gruber
I'm not reading this, Forrestal. I've been asleep for about thirty minutes now.

(I must have the last word):hat:
Ok. You can have the last word.

Whoops!

herr gruber 05-04-2008 12:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forrestal1972
Ok. You can have the last word.

Whoops!


Thanks Forrestal, my good friend.

Kingsley 05-04-2008 03:28 AM
What was all that? :confused:

Well, maybe it's time to go back to topic, and say that if Indy 4 ends up being really good, a 5th movie would be delicious ;)

|ZiR| 05-04-2008 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingsley
What was all that? :confused:

I don't know, but I wish it would continue so maybe herr gruber would make up another snarky little rhyme.

Quote:
Well, maybe it's time to go back to topic, and say that if Indy 4 ends up being really good, a 5th movie would be delicious

I'd like another movie, although lately I've been getting the feeling that there might be too much closure at the end of KotCS, what with Indy's promotion and the resolution of other elements. (i.e. Mutt, Marion, Aliens, etc.)

Well, we can but wait and see.

Mickiana 05-04-2008 03:52 AM
I agree Kingsley. 5 follows 4 in most equations, so there should be Indy 5 in a few years. The whole world will trample to see it and it will be great, as KotCS will be. I have mentioned elsewhere that I am a positivist.

MuttJones21 05-04-2008 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Raiders112390
I know there's already been speculation on this but what I haven't seen anyone notice is that this film hasn't been marketed as the ''final'' Indiana Jones movie (simply as the ''4th). You'd think if it was going to be the final movie that it would be marketed as such, something like "The Last Chance to See Everyone's Favorite Archaeologist" or something.
I also don't recall Spielberg or Lucas ever saying it was the final movie either. And given that recently Ford said he'd do a fifth Indy in a "New York Minute" so long it as it doesn't take 20 years, I can see it happening. If Harrison can pull off Indy at age 65, why not at age 67or 68? Wasn't John Wayne still starring in action flicks well into his 70s? So was Connery (League of Extroadinary Gentlemen). With today's technology, it certainly is possible. It's not like he'd really be physically going off on an adventure, it's a movie.
Especially if it each movie was set with KoTCS set in '57, the next movie set in '58 and the last maybe set in '59 (if they went so far as a new trilogy) that would keep the series in the realm of the '50s and not expand it in the '60s (which I don't think would fit with IJ), Indy's age would still be reasonable, he'd hit the 60 mark in the last movie and call it quits.

Shia's role--if he is good and proves popular--could expand in the 2nd and 3rd movies and maybe from then on he could take the series into the '60s as the lead. But it would be a slow transition over the 3 movies. That's thinking into the future, but it'd be awesome to have at least one more Indy after this one, especially if this turns out to be good. And if this Mutt character turns out to be interesting, it could be a good way to keep this series alive for generations to come.

hmmm....Shia replacing indy? possible, but that'll be only IF HE'S TRULY INDY'S KID!

herr gruber 05-04-2008 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by |ZiR|
I don't know, but I wish it would continue so maybe herr gruber would make up another snarky little rhyme.

Please, enlighten me on the definition of snarky

If it's a negative definition, I take it you are siding with the jumped up punk with a bad attitude.

Forrestal1972 05-04-2008 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by herr gruber
Please, enlighten me on the definition of snarky

If it's a negative definition, I take it you are siding with the jumped up punk with a bad attitude.
Jumped up punk with a bad attitude? And I thought we were friends. Ha ha ha.

And so begins Round 2. You ready for another woping? I am rather busy this evening but could spare 5 mins for Professor Grubenstein. I may have to drop a few points on my I.Q. to do so but I'm sure Mensa won't mind me temporarily leaving their ranks. But this continuing diversion, while a mildly amusing distraction for me, runs the risk up upsetting others who (rightly) wish to discuss Indy 5.

P.S. "Snarky", I define it thus: adjective (pronounced :snar-key) meaning touchy, short tempered, irritable. Sound familiar? But you're a writer, surely you know this?

Forrestal1972 05-04-2008 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mickiana
I agree Kingsley. 5 follows 4 in most equations, so there should be Indy 5 in a few years. The whole world will trample to see it and it will be great, as KotCS will be. I have mentioned elsewhere that I am a positivist.
You are a positivist Mickiana and why not? To be perfectly honest, even though I don't think 5 will happen due to time contraints etc, I would be first in line to see anything with Indy in it. I would watch a silent Indy movie of him and Shia painting a fence for 2 hours. I just don't see it happening. However, 4 is on our doorsteps. In 3 weeks we will know if 5 looks likely and I will be very happy to be proved wrong. I'm a positivist too, I guess.

herr gruber 05-04-2008 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Forrestal1972
Jumped up punk with a bad attitude? And I thought we were friends. Ha ha ha.

And so begins Round 2. You ready for another woping? I am rather busy this evening but could spare 5 mins for Professor Grubenstein. I may have to drop a few points on my I.Q. to do so but I'm sure Mensa won't mind me temporarily leaving their ranks. But this continuing diversion, while a mildly amusing distraction for me, runs the risk up upsetting others who (rightly) wish to discuss Indy 5.

P.S. "Snarky", I define it thus: adjective (pronounced :snar-key) meaning touchy, short tempered, irritable. Sound familiar? But you're a writer, surely you know this?

Seconds out! Round Two!

Gruber delivers a sharp and cutting verbal riposte, catching Forrestal offguard. Forrestal tumbles to the floor, blood and verbal diarrhoea trickling.
With flailing arms and a numbed mind, Forrestal passes out. Gruber leaves the ring to find something more interesting to do - like take a sh*t.

:up:

Forrestal1972 05-04-2008 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by herr gruber
Seconds out! Round Two!

Gruber delivers a sharp and cutting verbal riposte, catching Forrestal offguard. Forrestal tumbles to the floor, blood and verbal diarrhoea trickling.
With flailing arms and a numbed mind, Forrestal passes out. Gruber leaves the ring to find something more interesting to do - like take a sh*t.

:up:
Take a sh*t? You talk enough I'm suprised you ever need to use the bathroom. You just described knocking me out without actually doing it. Interesting strategy. It's a bit like saying you've just won the Gold in the Olympic 100m without actually running in the race. But then again, you trying to joust with me is a bit like the Kentucy chicken challenging the Colonel to a fight. As always, you lose Kentucy Fried Gruber.

|ZiR| 05-04-2008 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by herr gruber
Please, enlighten me on the definition of snarky


Merriam-Webster

Pronunciation:
\ˈsnär-kē\
Function:
adjective
Etymology: dialect snark to annoy, perhaps alteration of nark to irritate
Date: 1906

1 : crotchety, snappish
2 : sarcastic, impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner [snarky lyrics]

Quote:
If it's a negative definition, I take it you are siding with the jumped up punk with a bad attitude.

I'm not siding with anyone. I just like the limerick; it was clever and funny.

Forrestal1972 05-04-2008 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by |ZiR|
Merriam-Webster

Pronunciation:
\ˈsnär-kē\
Function:
adjective
Etymology: dialect snark to annoy, perhaps alteration of nark to irritate
Date: 1906

1 : crotchety, snappish
2 : sarcastic, impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner [snarky lyrics]



I'm not siding with anyone. I just like the limerick; it was clever and funny.
I thought so too, but I still maintain he should have used the word amplified instead of implied. And I think we are all a little past siding with people. I appreciate your comments even though the poem was an attack on me. A not entirely unwarranted one at that, but I can hold my own. So where do you stand on the possibility of an Indy 5?

The Man 05-04-2008 02:37 PM
Perhaps they already have a solid base for an Indy V. Given the notorious stop-start history of The Crystal Skull, they'd be pretty naive to spout about another one if it's going to run into the same trouble.

Shortie 05-04-2008 02:40 PM
I doubt Mutt will get his own series, Shia seems like to much of a fan to do it.

The Man 05-04-2008 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Shortie
I doubt Mutt will get his own series, Shia seems like to much of a fan to do it.

Does anybody remember the interview he did, oh, back in March or April last year, in which he said the idea of Indy having a daughter was more appealing to him? This was after the Natalie Portman rumour died on its arse.

Shortie 05-04-2008 03:16 PM
Who? Shia?

The Man 05-04-2008 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Shortie
Who? Shia?

Yep. This was awhile before he was officially onboard.

Vendetta08 05-04-2008 06:49 PM
My only regret is that they never made any Indy films in the 90s. Last Crusade is set in the 30s and Crystal Skull is set in the 50s. Imagine all of the adventures Indy could have done in the 1940s. This is why I want an animated series, please do it Lucas.

Mickiana 05-05-2008 01:20 AM
Actually, a 5th movie or any old how would suffice. Just bring Indy on for as long as possible. I've just ordered all the YIJ stuff so I will be keen to see that. I saw the latest trailer last night on the big screen and it looks like a totally big action flick, judging by the trailer but I'm hoping for a good story. Bring it on!

God'sRadio 05-07-2008 06:44 AM
Fifth movie should star a 66 year old Harrison Ford playing a 70 year old Mutt, which would set it round about 2007

The Man 05-07-2008 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by God'sRadio
Fifth movie should star a 66 year old Harrison Ford playing a 70 year old Mutt, which would set it round about 2007


Perfect! That way we could have LaBeouf play a younger Mutt circa 1960's with no need for Ford to dye his hair. These babies write themselves.

Jones JR 05-07-2008 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by herr gruber
Moonraker earned a friggin' ton of money. The public voted with their asses on seats. Casino Royale is so far up it's own backside! Tongue in cheek adventure is what we seek, I tell ya! Those Moore Bond films, especially Moonraker are very Indy-esque in attitude, even down to the Amazon setting.

If we gonna discuss bond so is Daniel Craig best! He kills without mercy and is more like a real SPY, a bornkiller :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: .

A bad news for you and good for me, Daniel Craig will be Bond at least four movies after Casino Royale. The next one is Quantum of Solace!

Now to Topic!

Jones JR 05-07-2008 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by God'sRadio
Fifth movie should star a 66 year old Harrison Ford playing a 70 year old Mutt, which would set it round about 2007


It is never Indiana Jones with out Harrison Ford!!!!!

barranca 05-07-2008 10:38 AM
I can just see him now whizzing round on a Harley'esque Invalid chair. In leather. It'd be like Buba'hotep!!

Jedinizar 05-07-2008 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jones JR
If we gonna discuss bond so is Daniel Craig best! He kills without mercy and is more like a real SPY, a bornkiller :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: .

A bad news for you and good for me, Daniel Craig will be Bond at least four movies after Casino Royale. The next one is Quantum of Solace!

Now to Topic!


Casino Royal is the worst Bond movie ever, and so IS Craig, he is a good actor, but he isn't bond, the look, the way he played bond ... The look ;).

For me there are only 3 Bonds:

1- Sean Connery
2- Pierce Brosnan
And at last 3- Roger Moore.

I'll probably watch the next Craig Bonds, but defiantly not in the Theatre. I will wait until it comes out for rent on DVD or BR or I will wait until they come out on TV

back to topic:

I really hope there will be no more Indy movies with or withou HF and no Mutt spin of either

Dene 05-07-2008 01:59 PM
I've already got what I wanted! No way am I getting my hopes built up for a fifth movie.

As a movie buff and Indiana Jones fan, Indy 4 has been the ultimate Maguffin. Not sure if anything will ever surpass it, think I've had my lot.

oki9Sedo 05-07-2008 02:16 PM
An Indy movie set during WWII could have been a cracker, all right. I like to think Indy played an important role in it.

visionz13 05-07-2008 03:29 PM
"Dr.Jones" the movie
 
A now retired indiana jones is exploring the world peacefully with his spare time. The well dressed Dr. Jones flashes his love for suits in this movie, and only in the end does he actually wear the Indiana Jones attire. A thriller movie with the big action sequence at the end. Of coure Dr. Jones will punch a few teeth over the course of the movie, but this is how I would like to see it done.

Iandiana 05-07-2008 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedinizar
For me there are only 3 Bonds:

1- Sean Connery
2- Pierce Brosnan
And at last 3- Roger Moore.

Quickly off topic...

Connery - suave and cool. Lazenby - Underated. Moore - A buffoon. Dalton - Wooden. Brosnan - SMUG! Craig - Perfect.

The original choice for Bond was Patrick MacGoohan and Craig bears a strange resemblance. And at least this new series has an arc!

Back on...

I think if a fifth movie was going to happen we will find out before the end of this year once they see how the audience reacts to Indy 4. It'd have to be put in motion quickly.

The Man 05-07-2008 03:42 PM
Here's a thought: why not take a plot from another Harrison movie and rehash that for an Indy 5? For example...Frantic:

While on a lecturing trip to Paris, Marion is kidnapped by shady Gallic terrorists in return for a mysterious MacGuffin hidden within Indy's Lady Liberty statue. A breakneck adventure ensues as Indy must brave strip clubs, cocaine dealers and pepper-spray, while befriending a comely French prostitute (Shia LaBeouf). The movie's central set-piece sees a naked Indy fending off sleazy perverts while covering his 'bits' with a teddy-bear.

Iandiana 05-07-2008 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The Man
The movie's central set-piece sees a naked Indy fending off sleazy perverts while covering his 'bits' with a teddy-bear.

Do you know how long it took for me as a precocious child to destroy the image of my hero's bare butt from mind.

Thanks for dredging up a wealth of memory....

|ZiR| 05-07-2008 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Iandiana
Do you know how long it took for me as a precocious child to destroy the image of my hero's bare butt from mind.

Thanks for dredging up a wealth of memory....

What?!

Semi-nude Harrison Ford is like, the *only* reason to ever watch Frantic. ;)

Iandiana 05-07-2008 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by |ZiR|
What?!

Semi-nude Harrison Ford is like, the *only* reason to ever watch Frantic. ;)

But in my formative years? I coulda gone either way at that point and my Mom's boyfriend already questioned my sexuality over a TOD poster I had with Harrison bearing his chest through his torn shirt.

The Man 05-07-2008 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Iandiana
Do you know how long it took for me as a precocious child to destroy the image of my hero's bare butt from mind.

Thanks for dredging up a wealth of memory....

Just in case you try to forget again...



Note The Ford Finger. What a pro...

Iandiana 05-07-2008 06:05 PM
AAAArgh! You're all demons!

Lol, thank heavens it's only the Ford finger he's pointing.

Indy Jones 05-07-2008 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by oki9Sedo
An Indy movie set during WWII could have been a cracker, all right. I like to think Indy played an important role in it.

One of the new books (either the DK guide or the lost journal, I can't remember) places Indy fighting in Germany at the time that the Nazi HQ fell. I'd like to think Indy was a big reason behind that. ;)

|ZiR| 05-07-2008 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Indy Jones
One of the new books (either the DK guide or the lost journal, I can't remember) places Indy fighting in Germany at the time that the Nazi HQ fell. I'd like to think Indy was a big reason behind that. ;)

The first KotCS trailer sort of suggested that Indy single handedly defeated Hitler in 1938. :|

Iandiana 05-07-2008 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Indy Jones
One of the new books (either the DK guide or the lost journal, I can't remember) places Indy fighting in Germany at the time that the Nazi HQ fell. I'd like to think Indy was a big reason behind that. ;)

Lest not forget that a fictional character being responsible takes away from the real heroes that overthrew Hitler. Not a dig just an observation.

The Man 05-07-2008 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Iandiana
AAAArgh! You're all demons!

Lol, thank heavens it's only the Ford finger he's pointing.

You said it! See the teddy's right arm? Well, when I first looked at that pic...:o

WillKill4Food 05-07-2008 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by The Man
You said it! See the teddy's right arm? Well, when I first looked at that pic...:o
Damn. If that was really it, he'd be a really big man. That's ridiculous. Could that even fit in pants?

Iandiana 05-07-2008 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by The Man
You said it! See the teddy's right arm? Well, when I first looked at that pic...:o

And on that nightmare I am off to sleep. Got a real bad feeling about what my dreams will entail.

"I'M AN AMERICAN!" *shudders*

Vendetta08 05-07-2008 08:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shortie
I doubt Mutt will get his own series, Shia seems like to much of a fan to do it.

That only sounds like a reason why he WOULD do it, and a hefty paycheck to boot.


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