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Montana Smith 05-22-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by inky_skin
For 36 separate head sculpts I believe. He's charging what a company like Hasbro would pay for his services which is fair enough - just not sure anyone on a fan forum would bite at that price. Where's tnswman when you need him ;) ?


As I wrote, he's a very talented sculptor, but he'd be better off trying to sell them separately, since a lot of them are of characters already made by Hasbro.

inky_skin 05-22-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Montana Smith
As I wrote, he's a very talented sculptor, but he'd be better off trying to sell them separately, since a lot of them are of characters already made by Hasbro.


Yeah - I forsee a C&D in his future. It just saddens me that such talent isn't recognised by the major toy companies.

Billy Ray 05-22-2012 02:01 PM

I've followed Evergrey's work for a while on the RS forums and I believe that, at one point, he actually mailed some of these sculpts to Hasbro, offering them up for free and they politely declined. It sucks, because his sculpts are way better than most of what Hasbro puts out. The paintwork on these does really bring them down though...it's a little too much detail for 3 3/4" scale figures IMO. As he mentions in the thread, minimal "action figure" paint apps would have worked a lot better than the attempt at realism.

Marshall2288 05-24-2012 03:29 PM

Just went through this entire thread (whew). Very impressive stuff here, guys!

CAZAFANTASMA 05-24-2012 10:08 PM

This is a video of my Indy Collection.... I need to add Shorty and TOD Indy now. Hope you like it!

http://player.vimeo.com/video/37568920

Palaceslave_82 05-25-2012 01:35 AM

Ahh, very cool! I didn't know you had such a large collection.The only customs I would be interested in at that size are the Temple of Doom cast. That said,they're all pretty cool. Your Crystal Skull crew needs an Oxley,and Marion.Love the Mac figure,he's a great character. Can't wait to see Indy,Shorty,and Willie in the line-up.

CAZAFANTASMA 05-25-2012 08:36 AM

lol! thanks man! Yeah I will update my video as soon as I finish Willie. I would like to have them 3 sitting in a mine card ! Like I have Indy and Dad on that german bike. Making an old Marion is hard cause there are no heads available that look like her in the 4th movie. ANd I really kind of hated Oxley, but true he should be there too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder why they didn't make Oxley be Marion's dad , that would have been really interesting since they said he was dead in the first movie.... :gun:

dlupus 06-14-2012 08:33 AM

I just finished making my TOD White Tuxedo Indiana Jones. This is my first custom action figure I have ever done. I learned a lot doing this figure and will most likely do "White Tux Indy" again and try to sell this one off on eBay.

I also just ordered a custom Vintage Kenner card back to put the figure on! I am very excited!

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Lance Quazar 06-14-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by inky_skin
For 36 separate head sculpts I believe. He's charging what a company like Hasbro would pay for his services which is fair enough - just not sure anyone on a fan forum would bite at that price. Where's tnswman when you need him ;) ?



Sure, but you can't expect to create your own items, set your own prices and try to charge "professional" rate prices for a market that doesn't really exist.

Sure, he would draw that kind of comparable salary if he was a Hasbro employee. And even though his skill set does seem in line with what Hasbro is doing, that doesn't translate to charging comparable fees if you're taking something (as an amateur) directly to the consumer.

Steve Jobs (RIP) can't charge me a million dollars for an iPhone just because that's how much he gets paid at apple to create it. Or even because that's the amount of R&D apple put into developing the item.

if Steve only made one single iPhone and tried to sell it for a million, he'd be laughed out of the room.

I can't spend two years of my life creating a gorgeous velvet painting of the Hamburglar making love to Dick Cheney and expect people to shell out $500,000 for it because "Hey, I spent two years of my life on this!"

There's just no market at that price. That's why Tri Gate Creations (or whatever it's now called), Broken Arrow and others charge a few bucks a head. They are trying to sell a LOT of them. That's a workable business model.

This isn't. No matter how lovely.

Lance Quazar 06-14-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dlupus
I just finished making my TOD White Tuxedo Indiana Jones. This is my first custom action figure I have ever done. I learned a lot doing this figure and will most likely do "White Tux Indy" again and try to sell this one off on eBay.


I really like your custom. Simple, but clean and very effective. I bought one of those DCU figures, too, and tried to remove the arms (the shoulders are a bit wonky looking, alas), but, man, those shoulder joint rings DO NOT COME OFF!!!!

:)

Anyway, well done and welcome to the wonderful world of customs!

Billy Ray 06-14-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance Quazar

I can't spend two years of my life creating a gorgeous velvet painting of the Hamburglar making love to Dick Cheney and expect people to shell out $500,000 for it because "Hey, I spent two years of my life on this!"



This may just be the funniest thing that I have ever read on the Raven! :D

Lance Quazar 06-14-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Ray
This may just be the funniest thing that I have ever read on the Raven! :D



Thanks, old friend.

:hat:

inky_skin 06-21-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance Quazar
I can't spend two years of my life creating a gorgeous velvet painting of the Hamburglar making love to Dick Cheney and expect people to shell out $500,000 for it because "Hey, I spent two years of my life on this!"


Puts away paintbrush, sadly...

Lance Quazar 06-22-2012 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by inky_skin
Puts away paintbrush, sadly...


I take it back. If you want to paint it, I'll start saving now, sell my car, create a kickstarter page, whatever it takes!!

Exulted Unicron 06-23-2012 06:11 PM

Been very busy with work and some other real life matters, but I've finally been able to get some customising done:

LBC Venice Indy



Head/Torso: LC Indy
Rest: Henry Sr

Indy and Elsa



Tough Sergeant



Head: GI Joe Rise of Cobra Zartan (pit commando)
Arms: RPG Indy
Rest: German Soldier

NickTurner 07-10-2012 12:49 PM

I finally took some pictures so I thought I'd make a post here. Nothing too fabulous - mostly some figures I've wanted to try for quite a while, and a few fun items. Many of them appeared in the corny traveling Indy comic, so I'll just give a taste here and refer you to http://home.comcast.net/~IndianaJonesToys/index.htm if you like to view all the fun stuff, including tourist Indy!

Here's one I call 'bad weather Indy' - a traveling Indy for when the stormy stuff starts.




Another attempt to get Brody, this time in his blue suit from Raiders.




Army intelligence! Col Musgrove from Raiders:


Kevin 07-10-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NickTurner


Here's one I call 'bad weather Indy' - a traveling Indy for when the stormy stuff starts.






I used that same 21st Century jacket for a nameless gangster I created, the color matches Indy's arms perfectly! If you went one step further and lightened the color a bit, you could make Indy in his shortest on-screen incarnation (not a great pic, but you can see him in the back seat wearing his trench):


NickTurner 07-12-2012 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin
If you went one step further and lightened the color a bit, you could make Indy in his shortest on-screen incarnation (not a great pic, but you can see him in the back seat wearing his trench):


I ALWAYS learn something from a Ravener! I think I know the movies but never noticed this before. Thanks for pointing it out. :up:

Palaceslave_82 07-21-2012 09:50 PM

This is my first attempt at a custom,and she's far from finished; Marion as she appeared in the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was a glaring gap in the collection, (admittedly, the other figs were pretty awful,and not terribly accurate), and I really liked her "explorer" look in the film that put her right into the action. "Skull" is a fairly guilty pleasure of mine, as I've warmed to its dubious charms through repeated viewings when I grow weary of "Doom" or "Raiders",and I've even come to appreciate Marion's evolved, more maternal role.

All of the alterations to her costume, (slicing away pants pockets, vest pockets, whittling the vest down from essentially a cube to a feminine shape, etc) were done with a kitchen knife. I have no customizing tools,only figure parts,and an eye for detail.

I still need to paint her shirt a pale robin's egg blue/seafoam,and sculpt a shirt collar, maybe a hint of her camisole. I also need to sculpt an extra half inch or so onto her pants to form cuffs,and create the longer,baggier look of the film. The neck was modified with a neck post to take the head,(it was originally a neck-less stump),and the flesh needs to be smoothed to form a uniform piece,and the necklace painted gold,like Marion's tiny chain/ pendant in the movie. The hair was done a medium brown, but needs to be much lighter, (I may swap the hairpiece for the wavier Pirates of the Caribbean Anjelica hair, and sculpt bangs). The vest needs to be filled in with sculpey where I got hack-happy,maybe extended slightly but so as not to restrict movement. The original figure had no breasts to speak of,so those will need to be added,despite my attempt to angle the chest in to suggest them.

What do you think? Be gentle, its my first time.:o

*constructive criticism welcome*

marionfig2

marionfig1

marionfig4

marionfig3

marionfig5

CAZAFANTASMA 07-22-2012 07:47 AM

Wow that is so cool! COngrats!!

Palaceslave_82 07-22-2012 12:55 PM

Thanks,CAZAFANTASMA.I figured for using a steak knife and sandpaper to customize, it wasn't a bad first effort. I'm considering having someone else finish her, as I have zero painting/sculpting experience. Any takers? :)

CAZA, I saw your Mola Ram custom on eBay,it looks awesome! How's the rest of the Temple crew coming?

CAZAFANTASMA 07-22-2012 12:59 PM

THanks man! It's coming along great! I finished MY personal Mola too, will post pics in my threat! :)

Billy Ray 07-22-2012 02:56 PM

That Marion looks pretty darned good! Especially for only using a steak knife and sandpaper. Great job!

Palaceslave_82 07-22-2012 03:34 PM

Thanks so much,Billy Ray! The method was borne of wanting a Crystal Skull Marion at 1 A.M. and having none of the necessary tools as a result of having never customized. I heated the feet under hot running water to pop them out of the ankle joint and switch 'em with a G.I. JOE female's. I kept the figure under that same faucet to soften the hard plastic, and started slicing away bulk, ( pockets, unwanted creases,) and scoring the plastic to give the vest a linen look with less sheen, pausing the DVD for detail on Marion's actual vest, hair, etc. Was the next order...but again,thanks for the kudos. There's some pretty great stuff on here by some talented people,and I'm essentially a newbie where that's concerned.

inky_skin 07-23-2012 11:15 AM

That's a GREAT first attempt at figure customisation Palaceslave_82.

Palaceslave_82 07-23-2012 12:01 PM

Thank you,Mr. Scott. I'd be honored to have you give her the "inky treatment", as she is a bit rough at the present. *for a fee, of course*
My worry is that my inexperience in paint/sculpting, I might ruin a decent first attempt by hampering all of the articulation I've worked to keep. I don't think any additional parts would be required, unless forearms with swivel wrists would look better, ( which I could Provide).

Lance Quazar 07-23-2012 05:44 PM

Great work, Palace Slave.

Can we have a parts list?

Palaceslave_82 07-23-2012 07:38 PM

I appreciate the shout out,Lance Quazar.

Recipe is:

Grace Augustine (Avatar)- torso, upper arms,and legs,heavily-modified

Marion Ravenwood ( Well of Souls)- head (with slight hair mods in back)-forearms

G.I. JOE Lady Jaye (DVD pack) boots,and neck stump, (modified to hold Marion head,and suggest a neck the original figure did not have)

Palaceslave_82 09-02-2012 02:19 AM

Have since switched out the hairpiece for that of the Marvel Universe Psylocke figure, a style which more closely mimics Marion's in "Skull". I just need to sculpt bangs...pics soon.

dlupus 09-20-2012 03:35 PM

Awesome job Palaceslave_82!!!

I am currently working on a TOD Lao Che figure! I will be posting pictures as soon as the sealer dry on the paint!

dlupus 09-20-2012 06:57 PM

Here it is, my Lao Che. This is my second custom figure. Two things I would change for my next attempt at Lao Che: (1) the tie is a little larger than I would have liked and (2) the sealant i used is too glossy. I can't wait to put it on a Vintage Kenner style back that I ordered!


Palaceslave_82 09-20-2012 08:27 PM

Excellent! Love the sheen of his suit...only critique is that he looks a bit too young, and handsome. Lao in the movie was chubby, pushing fifty. Great work, though. Can Kao or Chen be far behind? I'd love to see a Kenner-era Willie in Club attire.

Lance Quazar 09-20-2012 09:47 PM

Really nice job!! Parts list, please!

You can buy some dullcoat to dim the shine on that figure.

If I had to nitpick, I'd say the neck looks a little tall.

But I think you've done a wonderful job and it's a delight to see more customs coming down the pike.

The entire customizing hobby seems to be a shadow of its former self. Especially Indy customizing, which was always a niche inside a niche.

Bravo and thanks for sharing!!!!

ddschneider1972 09-21-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance Quazar
The entire customizing hobby seems to be a shadow of its former self. Especially Indy customizing, which was always a niche inside a niche.


If only I had the time...
Maybe they'll be a resurgence once we all hit retirement, lol.

Lance Quazar 09-21-2012 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ddschneider1972
Maybe they'll be a resurgence once we all hit retirement, lol.


I'm planning on it.

Only reason why I haven't sold off all those figures....

:)

Mr. Fusion 09-24-2012 01:00 AM

I know this thread consists of mainly 3 3/4" customs. But I wanted to share my brother's customized 12" Sideshow Indy from Raiders. Everything has either been repainted or made from scratch.








And just for reference...


dlupus 09-24-2012 09:21 AM

Your brother's figure is amazing! Man I have to get into collecting those 12" figures. They are just so expensive and I know my wife will catch me!

dlupus 09-24-2012 09:23 AM

Quick question! I usually use Sculpey for all my sculpting but I need something that I do not need to bake... does anyone have any suggestions for a "non-baking putty" that they use. I am working on a Walter Donovan figure at this time...

dlupus 09-24-2012 02:36 PM

Am I spamming the page? Sorry if I am! Here is a great site with custome heads and torsos... I may use this for a few more figures!

http://shop.theangelforge.com/main.sc

JuniorJones 09-24-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dlupus
Am I spamming the page?


That's a life question for us all.

Does it make you go blind.

Henry W Jones 10-16-2012 09:01 AM

[quote=Jr.Jones]KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL


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Mac

Oxley
Oxley

Does anyone know what figure were used for these?

inky_skin 10-16-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry W Jones
Does anyone know what figure were used for these?


Mac

I'm thinking Ric Olie for the head. Arms, torso, crotch piece and upper legs from Indy. Lower legs - not sure (poss. German Soldier). Boots - 21st Century Toys WWII US Marine or similar ? Vest - ? (I used the jacket from Gen Dodonna on mine).



Ox

Sirius Black (Harry Potter) for the head ? Body - Cemetary Warrior. Poncho - Anakin Skywalker peasant disguise ?

inky_skin 10-16-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dlupus
Quick question! I usually use Sculpey for all my sculpting but I need something that I do not need to bake... does anyone have any suggestions for a "non-baking putty" that they use. I am working on a Walter Donovan figure at this time...


You could try "Green Stuff" from Games Workshop. I've used it with great success. It's a two-part epoxy resin that you can work like Plasticine and that sets off in around 4-6 hours. Paintable with acrylics.


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