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FordFan 06-04-2008 04:16 PM

I don't know about it being #1 of the summer, because even a movie like Narnia, which was predicted to make bank, bombed. But TDK will be huge.

More importantly, I can guarantee that TDK will be the best movie of the summer in terms of quality. The plot will be engrossing, and with a near-3 hour runtime, the subplots should be interesting as well. It will be a dark beast.

KOTCS was a very good movie. Not excellent, and I am aware of its flaws, but TDK will be a much better film. At least KOTCS is better than Iron Man though. The whole time I was watching that, I was thinking, "Would I ever watch this again?"

General Grievou 06-04-2008 06:22 PM

I LOVED Iron Man, and I *really* liked KOTCS. It's a flawed but very entertaining film. It doesn't really compare to the previous three flicks, but that doesn't mean it's a BAD movie, now does it?

But yeah, I agree... The Dark Knight is definitely gonna be the best summer movie in terms of quality, especially if Nolan and his team improve over Batman Begins, which was pretty awesome in its own right. And in terms of box office... who knows, it's gonna be a pretty close battle between Indy and Batman. I hope Indy wins, though... :P

yodazone 06-06-2008 06:53 PM

Indy's now at $230,221,120 at the Box Office:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/c...8-06-05&p=.htm

Only 21 mill to pass Batman '89. ($251,188,924)

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batman.htm

And 12 million away to surpass the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" $242,374,454 domestic total!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/...thelostark.htm

This might be the weekend to break those records....


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Mothy 06-06-2008 08:29 PM

TDK will butcher KOTCS in the box office. Sure, Indy fans waited 19 years for KOTCS, but the difference is Batman fans know they will receive quality. The majority will leave satisfied with what they have seen, something Indy fans have not done.

Crusade>Raiders 06-06-2008 11:30 PM

I just can't see TDK putting up such HUGE numbers. Indy 4 is almost a lock for 325 million domestic/800 million worldwide. Thats bigger than Pirates 1, Attack of the Clones, Transformers worldwide. Batman Begins didn't have close to that amount, and even though the sequel should be gangbusters, plus the whole Ledger thing, I don't think its gonna be number 1. It'll be close though, and definitely not a "slaughter" as you so elegantly put it. If anything, Iron Man is the number movie. Wall-E might surprise me though.

Shortie 06-06-2008 11:33 PM

I don't see TDK doing this kind of money. I'm thinking a # 4 or 5 spot behind Iron Man, Indy, Hancock & maybe Hulk. Hulk actually has more public anticipation than IM did, from what I've heard.

I don't think anything will beat IM, that was an unexpected beast. Though I'd prefer Indy in that spot, I think IM deserves it & it got Marvel a fantastic start.

agentsands77 06-07-2008 02:14 AM

I'm anticipating THE DARK KNIGHT like crazy, but I just can't see it pulling in the numbers worldwide that it'll need to take down KINGDOM. THE DARK KNIGHT's domestic gross might be massive, but Batman's just never had incredible international appeal.

MaxPhactor23 06-07-2008 02:20 AM

Am I the only one that has zero interest in the Hulk movie? I could really care less. It's a glorified wrestling match.

Shortie 06-07-2008 06:57 AM

If you liked the TV show you'll probably like this one. It's basically a chase movie with a huge battle at the end. I'm looking forward to it more than TDK, of course I like Marvel more than DC. (Batman's the only DC character I like)

The Man 06-07-2008 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxPhactor23
Am I the only one that has zero interest in the Hulk movie? I could really care less. It's a glorified wrestling match.


I don't really have any hopes for it, though I'll probably go see it to wile away a couple of hours.

Crusade>Raiders 06-07-2008 07:26 AM

If its half as good as Iron Man was, it should be great. I heard Tony Stark makes an appearance, as does the Super Soldier serum that created Captain America. I LOVE how all the Marvel movies are coming together in one universe. Next year will be Thor and Wolverine, made by people who actually KNOW THE BOOKS.

MaxPhactor23 06-07-2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusade>Raiders
made by people who actually KNOW THE BOOKS.


That's always a bonus. I'm just not much of a Hulk fan.

The Man 06-07-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxPhactor23
That's always a bonus. I'm just not much of a Hulk fan.


The new movie is a continuation of what Ang Lee established, isn't it? The new director claims we'll see Norton "Hulk-out" in the first few minutes.

Crusade>Raiders 06-07-2008 07:50 AM

I'm not much of an Iron Man fan either, it didn't stop the movie from being the best of the year so far.

Its not really a sequel to Ang Lee's Hulk, it more like...

Ang Lee's Hulk is like the first Star Trek movie. Both films were beautiful, artful and cinematic tellings of prime geek material… HOWEVER – both films failed to move mainstream audiences. They did work for a segment of the audience – but there was a lack of forward momentum. They just didn’t quite GO at the speed that fans hoped for.

Well The Incredible Hulk – is very much like the re-invention that happened to Star Trek on Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan.

Don't get it twisted, I don't think its gonna be THAT great, but I'm actually looking forward to it.

Shortie 06-07-2008 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusade>Raiders
If its half as good as Iron Man was, it should be great. I heard Tony Stark makes an appearance, as does the Super Soldier serum that created Captain America. I LOVE how all the Marvel movies are coming together in one universe. Next year will be Thor and Wolverine, made by people who actually KNOW THE BOOKS.

Thor's in 2010 with IM2.

Crusade>Raiders 06-07-2008 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shortie
Thor's in 2010 with IM2.


Okay, so what comes out next year? Captain America?

Athenee 06-07-2008 10:28 AM

...I guess I'm not in your demographic, guys...
 
...but "The Dark Knight" just doesn't trip my trigger. My husband and his buddies will probably go see it, but not the spouses. I'm not into dark and Goth, or nasty. Although I adore Michael Caine, I'll wait till Rich Netflixes it to look at just his scenes and the bonus features. Ditto for "Hulk": dark, Goth, nasty, and not green in an ecologically correct sense:p

As much as I liked Will Smith in "ID" and "MIB", I didn't bother seeing "I, Robot" or "I am Legend" (again, not much with the scary things at night, okay? I'm a girrl--I'm the one who's squeezing the breath out of my husband with my eyes in his neck). And "Hancock" just doesn't look funny--or worthwhile--to me. The guys will go. :dead:

My husband and I want to see: "Wall-E", "Kung Fu Panda", "Mummy 3" (can't wait to see their Emperor's Tomb sets!), and "Hellboy II". I'm psyched to see Baz Luhrman's "Australia": If you want a dose of real world Indy-style heroism, the history of Australia in the 20th century is it, particularly during WWII. And it has Hugh Jackman all grungy and khaki, and Nicole Kidman.

I go to movies to see my favorite actors and to see the story (and in the case of "The Hobbit", to see Smaug, too!) (Hmm, Mutt against a dragon-- rats, Brendan Fraser's doing an archaeology movie in China!) (hmm--Year of the Rat--Disney should've done a "Ratatouille" sequel with Remy and Emile in Chinatown cooking with a cute Chinese rat, maybe voiced by Lucy Liu...)

I think the studios have forgotten that there's an over 30 (years of age!) demographic of adults who, while we don't mind going to loud, violence-filled blockbusters, also want movies with a little more plot and less "sound and fury, signifying nothing". (Although I do like Shakespeare, not the violent production of "Romeo + Juliet", but Ian McKellen's "Richard III" was bloody, and Robert Downey, Jr. had a small part that died in a particularly gruesome manner.)

On the other side of that, even though I *am* a grrl, I'm not interested in Sex and the City, either: first of all, I don't like unrealistic representations of city living; secondly, watching other women drink expensive Cosmos and yap about dates, sex lives, and shoes with injuriously high heels seems-- well, superficial... Talk about cloning Humphrey Bogart, or Cary Grant, or Jimmy Stewart, for Heaven's sake!! Will you airheads get your priorities straight!!

I mean, seriously, those girls are definitely more Willie Scott than Marion Ravenwood: who do you want as a role model for your sister, daughter, or girlfriend/wife? (yeah, I thought so...)

/sigh/ Here's an anecdote for you: I was at my local day-spa, getting a pedicure, and an entertainment magazine was on the side table, don't remember which, with a blurb on the cover: "50 Sexiest Men!" And I thought about that for a moment and started laughing. I told my nail tech, "I must be getting old. You know you're out of the loop when half of your '50 Sexiest Men' are over the age of 40, and the other half are dead."

So, like, I don't think Batman will beat Indy--or rather, I don't care. I won't be seeing "The Dark Knight", in the cinema or on DVD. The only way you'll get more of the kinds of movies you want to see is by voting with your movie ticket money.

Shortie 06-12-2008 08:56 PM

It looks like 1989 as of right now. Indy is #1 world wide, while domestic a new superhero is #1. That hero being Iron Man. I don't think these two have any threats except maybe Potter.

Filmphoenix 06-12-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Avilos
Well the rumors are that he was depressed about the content of the film. That it actually bothered him playing the Joker. That must be because of the types of things the Joker does.


He didn't comitt suicide it was an accident overdose of sleep and cold medication.

Shortie 06-12-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusade>Raiders
Okay, so what comes out next year? Captain America?

Yeah & The Avengers. Caps movie (right now) is called "The First Avenger: Captain America", or something like that. It's going to be tough on Cap's actor. I'm not a big Thor fan so I'm not hyped for that, but maybe some cool footage will make me interested.

Filmphoenix 06-12-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusade>Raiders
If its half as good as Iron Man was, it should be great. I heard Tony Stark makes an appearance, as does the Super Soldier serum that created Captain America. I LOVE how all the Marvel movies are coming together in one universe. Next year will be Thor and Wolverine, made by people who actually KNOW THE BOOKS.

Oh God not Thorhttp://raven.theraider.net/images/smilies/mad.gif
:mad: I would rather see Wolverine fight the Hulk.

Shortie 06-12-2008 09:33 PM

Too bad we can't because crappy Fox has the rights to X-Men. :down:

Filmphoenix 06-12-2008 09:46 PM

I don't know who will end up on top. Batman will open with a bang, but I don't think it will have the people going back to see again the way Indy and Iron Man will. And you never know something might come out of left field, it may be Wall E or The Happening.

Shortie 06-12-2008 10:00 PM

Wall-E, maybe. The Happening, no. I see Hulk (which alot of forum people *cough*BM fans*cough* think will bomb) being a huge hit. It's getting good reviews & good fan WOM.

MolaRam2 06-12-2008 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shortie
It looks like 1989 as of right now. Indy is #1 world wide, while domestic a new superhero is #1. That hero being Iron Man. I don't think these two have any threats except maybe Potter.


Iron Man was a good movie, but as far as quality goes, The Dark Knight should easily outdo it IMO. Iron Man was entertaining, but dragged in a few parts and didn't have nearly the substance that Batman Begins had.

The Happening will bomb hard. The reviews are dismal (around 15% fresh at Rotten Tomatoes) and the R rating will keep out young teen girls who will watch crappy PG-13 horror films like the Prom Night remake.

Hulk will do decent, but not spectatcular. The CGI looks like crap from the previews. The Incredible Hulk may be a decent way to spend a couple of hours, but looks like nothing spectacular.

Wall-E is going to be an amazing movie. Ratatouille was PIXAR's best and most sophisticated movie. It's a shame Ratatouille didn't do better at the Box Office because it is by far the best American animated film this decade. Wall-E looks like it will continue Ratatouille's level of quality and sophistication. Will audiences flock to Wall-E or will some of the sophisticated elements (minimal dialogue, social satire on consumer society, plot is about humans destroying Earth and robots having to clean it up) turn people off? Hopefully Wall-E will be a huge success, and I think the cuteness factor of Wall-E will draw in many people who wouldn't otherwise see it. PIXAR does the best storytelling in Hollywood IMO and they have continued to do it, while others (I'm looking at you Spielberg and Lucas) let quality slip.


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