Chrstian Bale wants to sex-up Batman:

The first thing that came to mind was Batman videotaping himself with whoever he is doing and flexing his muscles in the mirror.
"Don't touch the watch!":up:

http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=8783679

Morgan Freeman was in a car wreck and is in SERIOUS condition. Let's hope he is okay and makes a full recovery!

Just saw that, it certainly sounds bad.

What is it with The Dark Knight crew?

First a technician gets run over by a car. Then Heath Ledger dies of an overdose. Then Christian Bale gets accused of assaulting his mother and sister. Now Morgan Freeman gets injured in a car accident.

No movie I know have had so many "paybacks" for their huge success.

It's a Lucasfilm hex. Bastards...

Hopefully Morgan makes a speedy recovery. He's one of my favourite actors.

There's a story on yahoo.com that Johnny Depp is tapped for The Riddler. not sure I believe it because they again mention Jolie as Catwoman and don't cite credible sources. I like Depp but him as the Riddler could likely be too much like Willy Wonka. He doesn't seem like a Chris Nolan guy to me.

Why not let Patrick do it, period..?*


http://www.sowetan.co.za/Entertainme...aspx?id=820570



:up:
"Let's put a smile on that face!"




*You know it, guys: she would rock balls!

Thats one stray I wouldn't mind taking in. :p

Does Chris Nolan know about this? ...

Its a ballsy play casting a character when no one even has a script in draft stages.

The script isn't even in draft stages yet. No work has commenced on BB3 whatsoever. As of now, any casting rumors are just rumor-mill BS.

Wasn't Tera 'linked' with Tarantino's Faster Pu$$ycat remake aswell? Hmm...All fanboy fabrication, methinks.

How about Ron Jeremy as The Penguin?

Keeping the porn idea are we?

Ultimately, you see, this is the type of ancillary silliness that Angie brings to a movie these days. E-mailing Tera Patrick?!*







*Does anybody know Tera's e-mail address? Anybody..?

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00017644.html



*sniffle*

Yeah, and the script, written by Nolan himself, says that Two-Face is dead in big capital letters. Dent's gone, folks.

At last we can put that rumor to rest...

Jumping the gun...but in style...

http://www.cinematical.com/2008/08/1...sequel-poster/

God I hope it's not Riddler. He's Joker-lite. Joker VERY lite.

Yeah, unless there's a major reinvention, I wouldn't be overly impressed if they went with him...

Wow, looks like someone read all of the suggestions here. Mine being the real Zodiac killer (although other mentioned it) and my suggestion of having ???? tattoos instead of the green ??? suit. I like it.

I gotta be honest. That's one of the best fan posters I've ever seen on the net. I'd think it were real if I didn't know for a fact that nobody has made any decisions on a sequel yet. Makes the Riddler look pretty interesting, although maybe too much like the Joker. But still.

The article said that it hints at another villain on the poster in the newspaper but I don't see it. Are they mistaking that the newspaper suggests Two-Face again? The article is just "remembering" Harvey One Year Later. I was looking for mention of the Penguin but I don't see it.

A+ Thumbs up to whoever made that though.

Yeah. It's great. Indicative of the direction I'd like to see the third film take. And you're right that its only major problem is that the Riddler seems a bit too Joker-esque (it looks like the Joker's HaHaHa Times from the viral campaign), but the tattoos on the hands and the Zodiac-style notes... that's dead-on.

The article says that it hints at another character, not necessarily a villain. And the person in question is Vicki Vale, who wrote one of the articles.

That's because the answer is in the code...quite clever, albeit speculation.

I like the poster, but I really hope it's not Riddler. Mabey a bad-ass Peinguin with a minor villain. (such as mabey Clayface or as No_Ticket suggested, Mad Hatter)

Ohhhh ho ho... THAT is clever! Wow. Now Nolan won't wanna do this because someone already thought it out too well! haha.

How so? The Riddler doesn't have to be much like the Joker. In fact, they're not really similar characters when you get down to it.

Looking at this poster, it makes me realize The Riddler probably would want to solve the puzzle of who the Batman is. And he'd probably use it against Bruce Wayne. (even though that kind of happened in Batman Forever already)

Think Green Arrow. That will help you solve the cyrptograph therein.

that is an awsome poster, whoever made it should definatly look into that career field

Put me out of my slow-minded misery, Horse. Explain the hidden message...

Study mathematics. Get a degree in either math or computer science, but study mathematics. Take math courses for math majors, not math courses for engineers. Learn how to think about mathematics; learn how to prove theorems. Try to take courses in number theory, complexity theory (often offered out of the computer science department), algorithms, statistics, and abstract algebra...

I'm getting 's' to 't' and back to 's'. Hot or cold?

I haven't figured it out either. lol.

I've even resorted to flipping it upside down! :up:

That didn't help at all :D

Anyway, amazing poster. I imagine the Riddler would be more like The Animated Series version. Very smart, maybe smarter than Batman. Leaves clues/riddles behind at crime scenes because of his narcissism. Maybe a little crazy, but not Joker's over-the-top maniacal laughter kind of way. I imagine he'd be more like John Doe from Se7en or something like that. Someone extremely intelligent but definitely twisted. The fact that he seems so calm and plans ahead would make him even scarier. He not one to fight Batman one-on-one, and always tries to be one step ahead since he analyzes his every move.

Which is why I thought Bane would be a great addition to. Not the dumbass version from Batman and Robin, but the guy who managed to make a plan that actually broke Batman, both mentally and psychically.



He would be the brawn to Riddler's brain, a guy who wanted to prove his strength and destroy the Batman for sport. Someone who might be able to beat the Batman in a fist fight.

I really think that if Nolan makes a third Batman to end this trilogy in style, thats a direction they need to go in.

That poster is incredible. But I don't like the idea of the title being "Dark Knight Returns" (yes, I know its fanmade and not the real thing). After going from all the "Batmans" to "The Dark Knight", I always thought it be cool if they decided to give Batman 3 a title like "The Long Halloween" or something (just an example). I mean, advertising wouldn't be a problem cause everyone would see Batman and co. splattered all over the posters and ads then. Just a thought :up:

The Dark Knight Returns is the most overrated comic ever. Carrie as Robin (ughhh) and old Batman drawn like he is on steroids. DK2 was absolutely atrocious.

The only true part of the post.

NEWSFLASH FOR ALL GEEKS - TWO-FACE = DEAD. Thats it. Hes dead. Deal with it. Hes not coming back I dont care how badly you want it, hes dead. You got that? Dead.

People who think the Joker and Riddler are too alike obviously aren't familiar with how Riddler has been written lately in the comics and graphic novels. They seem to only know the made up Tim Burton Riddler which is just Jim doing an over the top Gorshin impression

The real Riddler isn't all that hands on, hes not as in the open and laying down the law to the mafia crazy. He isn't trying to destroy the entire city to prove some point about the hopelessness of Gotham.

Joker is straight Looney Tunes. Maybe people didn't agree with Heath's look, but he nailed the Joker in the way he behaved.

Riddler is a genius and a whole differant kind of crazy. Hes far more reserved then Jims semi-retarded Mask impersination and for that matter then the Joker. Riddler is even more mysterious then Joker, he operates in the shadows, he uses his brain instead of rocket launchers and 18 wheelers.

Like I said alot before, Catwoman is sexy as hell but a bad idea, Two-Face and Penguin and Bane will not happen so don't get your hopes up. They aren't threatening enough to carry a sequel against Joker. Nolan already said no Catwoman, he isnt Sam Raimi and going to sumbit to some dumb fan pressure to ruin a sequel like Sam did with Venom.

Hush and Riddler. It will work, it can be as good as Joker, just as deadly, and a differant kind of feel. If you don't believe me go read Hush right now, go ahead Ill wait. If you really know Batman comics and the sources Nolan has drawn from, you cannot deny that with the situation Bats is in right now in the Nolan-verse(a criminal on the run trying to conceal his identity) these villains are perfect. Add Harvey Bullock and maybe Hugo Strange. Add the new Batcave and new Batmobile. Dark Knight can be topped, maybe not in ticket sales, but in quality. "You'll see, I'll show you."

I'm actually with Spalko. I'm a die-hard Batman fan, and an avid reader, but THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS is very, very overrated. It's a sloppy story with a really awful characterization of Batman.

That said, THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS has a terrific title. I do hope they name the third film after it... I want to see the title appropriated by something of genuine quality.

HUSH isn't really particularly good. And Hush isn't a very good character, either. The only good thing about that comic is what it did to the Riddler, but otherwise it's just a lazy "Batman's greatest hits" package, entertaining but terribly redundant.

Thats my whole point in saying read it to understand Hush and Riddler and how Riddler should be handled. Obviously don't add all the other chracters, that would be way too many and Harvey is dead and Joker should not be replaced but you can work around all that easy.

Hush is a great character for the Nolanverse. It will get us away from all the deformed sort of people like Joker and Two-Face but at the same time, w/ the headwrap he wears, he still has that Scarecrow freak feel. Riddler on the other hand can just rock a suit. Also Hush hasn't been done, its fresh, it fits, Goyer was quoted saying they wanted to do someone that hasn't been done yet in a movie. Thats not Penguin, Bane, or a Two-Face/Riddler Teamup. And lets face it the time to have Talia in the story has already passed, she and Bruce fall in love during his training with Ras. Thats what makes it all work.

Also Bruce has no friends now that Rachel is gone. Alfred is more of a parent and Fox is a co-worker. You bring back Tommy Elliot who was like Rachel a childhood friend. It gives Bruce more interaction with characters other then Fox and Alfred, there aren't any characters really left for Bruce to interact with. It also takes care of the people insisting he needs a girlfriend to interact with and thus they want Catwoman. He can just be dating a generic Gotham girl. Or two, or three.

Tom and Bruce also can have a deep friendship which would be crazier when they reveal Tommy is Hush. Maybe his motives are differant like he loved Rachel ever since they were young and blames Bruce for what happened.

The Riddler and Hush play off each other perfectly, you have to admit that much at least.

Well, I don't really think Nolan should handle Riddler in a HUSH-like fashion. I think he should reinvent the character in a manner closer to the Zodiac killer.

Hush has a good costume, but everything else about the character is terribly dull.

Goyer says he wants to go in a as differant a direction as possible from what they already did in the previous 2 films. In my mind that eliminates most of his Rogues gallery and heres why.

Joker wont be recast this soon. He just wont, face it. Not after the success of Heath's performance. Nolan knows damn well he can't replace that.

That means no Harley Quinn.

Two-Face is dead. End of disscussion on that one unless we hear Eckhart has joined the cast for 3.

Nolan said no Catwoman. I still believe in Chris Nolan.

Talia Al Ghul never romanced Bruce in training with her Dad, so that time has come and gone.

Deathstroke and Deadshot, Deathstroke is a sword toting ninja, its too much like Ras, Deadshot was done in the Gotham Knight DVD already which is an "official" lead in to TDK. To my understanding its cannon and so deadshot was already used.

Poison Ivy, to make her realistic, her only weapon to face off against someone as powerful as Batman would be pheremone dust. Its too much like Crane's Fear Toxin.

Mr.Freeze, Man-Bat, Killer Croc, all too unrealistic, even if you try to modernise Freeze it won't feel right. The others are Human/animal hybrids. It wont work.

Bane - Already done, just too early for him again. A simple pyshical brawl isn't a good enough story/threat to match what Joker was.

Black Mask and Arnold Wesker (Ventriloquist) - The mafia has been handled enough, both have strong mob/gang ties and I think they need to give the Mafia power struggle thing a rest.

Mad Hatter - Maybe he'd work with Riddler but the two characters are a little too similar to one another. I liked him best with Scarecrow and while were on Scarecrow, I think we've seen the last of him unless there is an Arkham Breakout. And I doubt that will happen unless Nolan decides to make a 4th movie.


That to me leaves :

Harvey Bullock - an obvious addition to lead the Batman Taskforce for the police.

Riddler - Perfect to team up w/ Hush and act as a puppet master. Hes the Brains and Hush is the Muscle. If Riddler is in 3, 3 needs to start with Riddler disposing of Mr.Reese in a sick but inventive way so Riddler is the only one who knows who Batman is.

Hush - The childhood firend thing is huge in my mind. Also hes one of the World's top doctors. Like Bruce's father. You can play off of that, how do we know Bruce's dad didn't want Bruce to become a doctor? Thomas Wayne was a very successful doc and it would seem totaly legit he'd want Bruce to follow in his footsteps. Instead its Hush who is more like what his dad wanted and he can pyschologicly hurt Bruce with that. I dont think that would be dull at all considering how F'd up Bruce will be already after TDK.

Clayface - A human/makeup artist version. Not a mud monster. Heres a way to bring back Harvey Dent, maybe he wears a Mission Impossible sort of mask and pretends to be Harvey commiting crimes.

Hugo Strange - Bruce is going to be depressed about Rachel dying and the Wayne board could be concerned enough to make him see a shrink. Hugo after a few sessions could realise Bruce is the Batman and you go from there.

All these characters are perfect also, bcuz they all deal with Identity. Hugo is a shrink and suspects Bruce is Batman but at the same time giving Bruce advice on his life. Clayface like Batman, pretends to be someone else, Hush is a big secret until the end, same with Riddler they know Batman's identity but he needs to figure out who they are, remember Batman is a detective. He got his start in Detective Comics, not a comic called Batman. And finally Harvey Bullock should be hunting to find out who Batman is.

Agreed. He's just wrapped up in bandages, a trenchcoat and carries two guns. He's a poor man's Darkman.

To my knowledge, Christopher Nolan said no such thing. His brother, Jonathan, and David Goyer both said they didn't really want to use the character, though.

I'd like to see Mad Hatter in a cameo, in the child kidnapper/pedophile vein of HAUNTED KNIGHT/ARKHAM ASYLUM. Maybe Gordon's intro into the film could be a bust on Mad Hatter or something like that... we need to see that Gotham's become home to more theatrical criminals.

Eh, I don't really want to see a Batman identity struggle. We had that touched on with Reese in THE DARK KNIGHT, and it would just feel redundant if done a second time.

I like the idea of Riddler being obsessed with finding out WHO Batman is. It's the biggest riddle for him to solve. Him being a Zodiac style killer is obviously a cool idea.

But The Riddler HAS already been done. I know it wasn't done well, but Nolan said he wanted to stay away from repeats.

Still I like the idea.

I like the idea of Mad Hatter more though. A pedophile who is obsessed with the darker aspects of Alice in Wonderland. Perhaps he has been on the loose and killed children? He kidnaps Lucius Fox and obtains from him a mind-controlling device... something of that sort. I can see Mad Hatter being all kinds of dark. Plus he can just wear a suit and a hat. And nobody has done him yet. That's the best part.

I think the Penguin is a bit too boring, honestly. But he could be financing someone else through his businesses and Batman pays a visit to his Ice Berg Lounge which was mentioned in the viral marketing campaign.

Bane was used horribly in B&R and was barely even really a villain so I could see him being used again. But I think Riddler or Mad Hatter is more interesting than Bane. I doubt Nolan would have Batman's back get broken in his last Batman film. Which I'm sure if they make another it will be the last that he, I think, will be apart of.

Didn't stop him from using Joker and Two-Face in THE DARK KNIGHT, though.

This is true. But come on.... who wouldn't want to try and use Joker if they could.