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Yeah you couldn't stay away from Joker, he is just as or more so iconic than Batman himself and Two Face is hard to resist as well. You know I like the Mad Hatter idea and wish Nolan. I honestly think if I was in Nolan's shoes is bring in Catwoman anyway simply to create a lust for Bruce since Rachel died and everything and he turns his sorrow into more revenge and lust, that itself would make an interesting film. |
The Joker is the quintessential Batman villain. Even if spite of Ledger's death, the Joker would still have been a huge box-office draw. You just can't top the Joker. The third film will suffer noticeably because of this fact. Doesn't mean it won't be good, just not AS good.
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I think Catwoman is a bad idea. Mainly because I think it would be more interesting to see Bruce dealing with loneliness and shutting himself off and going full-on Batman as Rachel predicted. Since she said she could now tell he couldn't give that up. I mean, since he has nothing left Batman is all he has. |
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True. But Alfred is all he has now. It might even be interesting to see him punish himself for what happened to Rachel by making himself as lonely as possible. Actually I didn't think it through. He also has Lucius Fox. But I like the idea of Mad Hatter kidnapping him (which he did in the comics) and this giving Bruce the feeling that he may lose someone else close to him. Same goes for Gordon. Oh wait he has Gordon too, sort of. lol.... well there goes my theory. But I could see him not getting close to women. |
He's already punishing himself over the death of his parents. As Alfred says, "You spat in the face of Gotham's criminals. Did you not think there might be some casualties?" Her death only furthers his anguish to fight injustice. That's what Batman stands for.
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When I first read Hush I was like "Wait, the new character introduced in the story arc is also the new bad guy? I saw this coming from the second issue...there has to be some twist." Turns there wasn't. Dude is just some guy with guns, and bandages because all Batman's rogues have be twisted or scared or some crap. THAT said, Paul Dini is doing a fine job trying to make him a good character with his current Detective Comics run. |
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As a Lewis Carroll pandit, this would be truly chilling. The depths of his works combined with the endopsychic propoganda that could be realized....wow. |
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Indeed. It ain't standard summer fare, that's for sure... |
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Anyway, I'm curious, how exactly would Batman be tough fighting a pedophile? When I think of pedophiles, I think of fat losers with mangy beards and taped-up circular glasses that live in their mom's basements and fondle the neighborhood kids. Doesn't sound much like a fight to me... |
obscure the crime, by showing the victimized children as brainwashed agents dolling out the evil....Leave the "sexuality" out of it...
It further villian-izes Batman, if he punishes the children for commiting crimes. (yeah, I'm pretty twisted :eek:) |
This conversation of the Mad Hatter really reminds me of a Sherlock Holmes movie in 1945 called the Woman in Green which has a plot which would be perfect for the third movie if they use the Mad Hatter or the Riddler.
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Yes, it wouldn't ever SHOW him as a pedophile. It would be something like... Gordon (throws photos down for Batman to see): "That's all I can give you. His real name is ___ and he was a computer programmer at blah blah blah" (I don't know his real name lol)... "he's a sociopath and a pedophile..." Batman: "Pedophile?" Gordon: "Yes. Apparently obsessed with the book Alice in Wonderland, that's why he calls himself the Mad Hatter. He likes to kidnap children with the name of "Alice." (Said with slight disgust) You never need to see the crime itself. Just need to know what he is. |
Yep, that's the classic Hitchcock technique...or at least the one credited to him.
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Mad Hatter would be a let down after Joker.
I think Killer Croc would be cool. But since The Lizard is no doubt going to be in Spider-Man 4, he'll seem like a rip-off. Which he sort of is, since Lizard was one of Spidey's first villains. Though the backgrounds are completely different. He'd definately be different form any Batman villain so far. |
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You're missing the point of Nolan's world being more realistic. Killer Croc, a man-crocodile really doesn't work as well in that world because it would essentially have to be CG, I would think. |
Dark Knight script just went up on joblo: http://joblo.com/scripts/The_Dark_Knight.pdf
Great read, answers two questions I had, namely what does the Joker do after dropping Rachel out of the window at the party, and is Dent truly dead? |
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Riddler & Catwoman are the way to go! |
catwomans a very cheesy and horrible villainess to begin with i wouldnt be able to bare to see her again after that disasterpiece "Catwoman" came out,and riddler could possibly work but they need the right actor and the right story for him to fit in,it'd be interesting to see how Nolan have his take on the riddler,and i really hope they dont replace Ledger,its not necessary,we're all well aware what happens to the joker in TDK and that should be the end of it since Heath passed away,rest his soul. he gave the best performance of the Joker an actor could give and replacing him would be like when they replaced Brandon Lee in the Crow series
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Nolan can do wonders with her. I mean it's basically BM but as a cat & a girl. Scarecrow isn't that great either.
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Catwoman could be a great character when she has a great writer behind her. Don't judge her by that dreadful Halle Berry Cat-tastrophe. Burton made her interesting back in Batman Returns. Catwoman carries her own comic series, and it's quite good actually. But frankly I'm not all for her in Batman 3. But I would be more interested in Wayne and Selina Kyle's relationship. I really think the Riddler should be a shoe in for Batman 3. He's the thinking man of Batman rogues gallery. And with Nolan's previous projects like The Prestige, Memento, and Insomnia, it shows he's great at psychological thrillers and throwing in twists. So The Riddler would not only be great story wise, but his look is realistic like Nolan's Gotham i.e. A man in a green suit. Oh, and I agree that Ledger shouldn't be replaced and they should just move on. The reason Brandon Lee was "replaced" as The Crow was because The Crow isn't one man. Every crow story is about a Crow bringing the soul back to an undead person who died unrighteously to exact revenge on those who wronged him. Sort of along the lines of Highlander or The Phantom. They change. |
Is there any truth to the rumor that Matthew Lesko is in talks to play the Riddler?
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None of these castings rumors are true cause no one has even talked to Chris Nolan about the script. |
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Yeah, Nolan isn't even thinking about it right now. He is taking a break. I imagine he'll begin actually working on it next year if he can come up with an idea that would make a third entry worthwhile. |
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I just picked up Hush because of this post. I'm halfway through the arc... What are you retarded? Are you dense or something? This ain't the goddamn Batman! UGH! Goddamn Super-dog? Really? And a new ****ing villain introduced every page it seems; this thing is a bloody mess of confused mythologies and the summer blockbuster, bigger is better syndrome. Ugh. And the real tragedy of all of this is that the artwork is absolutely beautiful. Damn shame the story is such an unmitigated mess. ...I will finish it because I've started it. But it brings me no joy. This is one of the worst comic arcs I've ever had the displeasure to read. Truly awful. |
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I like Marion Cottiliard as Catwoman, but I prefer Rhona Mitra. I've started to think that she would be perfect.
Really nicely done, however. Not wild about the idea of Harley Quinn, but, since it isn't real, it doesn't really matter, does it? |
I know it's not the official title, but I think Gotham City is a good title for Batman 3 (or is that 7?).
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Cher? As Catwoman...different. And a terrible idea. But hey, new Batman movie in three years is exciting. I hope that the quality doesn't suffer trying to meet that deadline. But, hey, we can't all have 19 years to perfect a movie. |
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You actually think it's a good idea, The Man?
I can MAYBE see "a vamp in her twilight years." Maybe. But Cher? Not that I hate her, but she's just not what people are expecting. I think ultimately people will be disappointed. A lot of people at first were opposed to Ledger playing the Joker. After some pictures came out, people complained about the costume not being right. But, from what I gather, Ledger stayed true to the essence of the Joker. He stayed true to the comic book character. Now, perhaps there is a comic about Catwoman when she's older, but is it really what the summer flick crowd wants to see? The film's sex symbol being played by an aging singer/star? It'll disappoint. I mean, come one, people didn't think Gyllenhaal was cute enough to play the love interest, can you imagine the reaction to Cher? |
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Oh no, but the 'fact' that Nolan wants this cracks me up... |
Yeah, I don't believe it all, but I do think it's interesting who they come up with. Honestly, I never would have guessed Cher.
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Now, if Lena Olin was mentioned for an older Catwoman...  "Purrfect..." |
Cher looks younger than her and she's gotta be what, 20 years younger than Cher? Get her to a botox clinic STAT.
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I think Lena must be in her mid-fifties by now. |
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The Cher as Catwoman rumor is the stupidest ****ing thing I've heard in a long time. If that were to end up happening (which it won't, but if it did), I won't be able to tell if the weird creaking sound is coming from Catwoman's leather costume or Cher's creaky old hip joints.
Seriously, just because Cher is a "cougar", she shouldn't even be considered for Catwoman (rumor or not). Stupid. |
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