Wrinkles or none, Lena Olin would kick Cher's artificial ass...


"You don't mess with The Olin..."

Any one else heard of this? Personally I think it's BS. I mean, I think she was signed on for two films when they were planning on having Dent become Two-Face in the third film.

Quinn in a movie without Joker would be stupid.

Was she even signed on for two films? I thought it was just one, which is why some people were sure that she would die in this one.

There's no way it's real. If he won't bring Ra's back, he won't bring back Rachel.

Bringing Dawes back would utterly undermine Dent's arc in TDK. It's a cheap, cynical, Bobby-in-the-shower gimmick that they MUST NOT ATTEMPT...

Agreed. They complement each other. W/O one you can't have the other.

Yes. We. Get. It.

http://chud.com/articles/articles/16...EAD/Page1.html

Hmmm...

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/09/08...s-the-penguin/



Hmmmmmmm.....

Sounds fake. Caine's comment about "I read it in the paper," seems to be more tongue-in-cheek than anything else.

For sure. I don't know much about Michael Caine's real-life personality--is he much of a kidder? It definitely sounds like he is joking there.

That or really only knows about as much as us, which sounds like what it is. Who says WB isn't CONSIDERING those people for real? ... that really doesn't mean much of anything... plenty could change by the time Nolan comes back.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/09/09...-good-penguin/

Damn, Caine messing with the fans' heads. :mad:

Hmmm...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38633

Flush it!

http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEco5lfkkwx8ej

Some folks simply will not wait...

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1293..._batman_3.html

The last one was okay. The other two were not.

I wish they would, looking at those...

honestly you guys, what villian should be in the next film? if there ever is going to be one.....

I think it should be this guy:



The Clock King. he would be perfect because all of his crimes are time oriented and he will keep Batman on his feet.

And the person that could play the Clock King:

I hope that is a joke, Clock king is pretty much my least favorite batman villain all time, I'd take the striped shirt Navy guys that work for the Penguin in the original Batman with Adam West over clock king.

Catwoman, Riddler, Hush, Black Mask, Mad Hatter, Arnold Wesker, Rupert Thorne, Penguin, Poison Ivy, Talia Al Ghul, Deathstroke, Deadshot, Sofia Falcone, Holiday, Harvey Bullock, Hugo Strange, Killer Croc, Clayface, just too many way better characters at Nolan's disposal. Clock king is just a Rip off of the Riddler more or less anyhow.

everyone has different favorite villians you know. i just thought hed be good for the next batman movie. if you dont like him thats fine. i hope this doent lead to a flame war against me for one little post.

Still pulling for Catwoman here.

I don't remember the Clock king from the show. Must have missed that episode.

If I had to guess, I'd say the Riddler was probably the next villain. Harvey Bullock might be interesting as someone who is on the force trying to stop Batman (he is, after all, responsible for the deaths of several people apparently). I eagerly await hearing more info about this movie.

No, theyres no need for an arguement, your allowed to have your fav, Im simply saying these villains listed, are more widely known, and thus better to follow the Joker.

Remember alot of people are expecting it to match TDK in quality and I simply don't think a character who was in, what 2 episodes? of the animated series has enough pull.

I would be satisfied with a Sofia Falcone, Sylina Kyle, Black Mask story or something with RIddler and Hush myself. Either way work Harvey Bullock in there to hunt Bats now that hes a bad guy, and maybe Hugo Strange as a shrink for Bruce Wayne.

no argument intended. But i honestly hope its someone never seen in a Batman film like Clayface and Mad Hatter.

Martin short was born to play Mad Hatter. he even looks the role if he dyed his hair blond

But I think as someone else said, they will have to make Hatter a pedofile to make him truely threatening which is pretty risky ground for a Comic movie to tread.

Clayface would work well tho, as long as they took the realistic, actor in disguise approach, and not a mud monster.

Really Nolan could make just about any of the villains realistic, Im confident he'll make the right decision, Im just glad he isn't rushing into it to appease the studio's wallet.

Nolan 4 prez.

I'm pulling for obscurity myself. When initial speculation was coming out, I thought to myself that The Mad Hatter and even Mr. Freeze could work.

Now wait... don't chew me out.

Victor Fries works in cryogenics. Therefore he has access to technologies otherwise not at the disposal of other, "normal" people. He tries to save his wife, something goes wrong, the cryogenics mess him up and he needs to fashion himself a new suit to stay alive. If batman can create a suit using "technology", then so can Mr. Freeze IMO. The only (REALLY big) problems I see would be in his freeze gun and in making him a really menacing criminal character after the Joker. So maybe I don't like this idea so much any more.
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The Mad Hatter I think would be a great glimpse at a villain. Maybe only put him in a couple of scenes, like Victor Zsasz in Batman Begins. Just put him in a crime that is led by someone higher up (Hush? Riddler?), get him captured real quick but give him a chance to shine. Could even take a page from The Long Halloween and have Scarecrow and Mad Hatter teamed up. possibilities there, in my opinion.
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Talia al Ghul coming back is a no-brainer as well. Set up a mild rogue's gallery of villains - crime-lord Penguin, obsessed Riddler, sexy untrustworthy Catwoman, pedo/rapist Mad Hatter - and have them all be set up like roadblocks in front of Batman by none other than Ra's al Ghul's daughter, in revenge for her father. Nice

Theyre are a few really good and realistic options IMO.

My favorite is Thomas Elliot/Hush shows up and takes Thomas Wayne's old job at the hospital. He makes Bruce look bad and becomes Gotham's new fav son. At the same time you have Riddler kill Coleman Reese so he's the only one who knows Batman's secret and also this shows how cold blooded the Riddler can be. Eventually have him team up with Hush, Hush is the muscle, and Riddler is the brains, playing Hush and Bats against each other.


Second idea is now that Scarecrow is insane and in jail, Falcone's lawyers could use that to get Falcone out of jail and back in charge. Then you have Sylina Kyle/Catwoman have some debt to settle with him, like maybe he killed her family. Also have Roman Sionis/Black Mask have some dealings with Falcone which should also lead to a Love Triangle between Bruce, Sylina, and Roman. End it just like War Games, with Black Mask having his jaw blown off by a thought dead Catwoman.


Or Talia Al Ghul comes to avenge her father, with help from Deathstroke and Deadshot.


Any way he goes, he should include Harvey Bullock to hunt Batman for the police, since Gordon is commish now and would be busy with other things. Also Hugo Strange as a Shrink treating Bruce's depression could work. He could slowly begin to figure out Bruce is Batman.

I don't see a pedophile in a Batman going down all to well. Even with the dark tone already set.

I don't think Clayface will work because 1.) Nolan wants a realistic style & 2.) He'd remind the audience too much of Sandman from Spider-Man.

Deathstroke would be awesome though! He could be hired by the government or cops to hunt down Batman. It'd be a way of bringing the DC universe (which really won't exist until the Supes re-boot) together.

Which makes me sad because WB is cared to do Flash. :down:

Eh, we just did a love triangle in the last one. I'd really like to see Bruce with women after Rachel's death, and I think Selina is a great answer to that, but involving them in another love triangle doesn't seem like the right way to go.

I think Bruce should attracted to her because he sees something of himself in Selina. He's hurt, she's mysterious, both have alternate identities the other doesn't know about, but they can understand each other and what the other is going through. I can see this working out really well, you just need another villain to be more menacing. The last time they went with the over-the-top Penguin, this time I'd like to see something along the lines of Joker but not the Joker. A psychotic Riddler would be good, but only if he is a killer as well as a genius, otherwise it won't work.

if heath ledger was still alive :( they could have harlequin and her origin story. i think that would work really well.

Nolan speaks...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/hero...opher-nol.html

Umm...Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?

Seeing as Nolan is waiting on making Batman 3 till he gets a good story, and Warner Bros. is willing to wait on Nolan, I think I'm pleased w/ just Batman Begins and The Dark Knight (that is... for now... ;) )

Last Crusade, Return of the Jedi/King, Back to the Future 3, Die Hard 3, Bourne Ultimatum...hey 6 right there.

I don't think most of those pan out.

LAST CRUSADE is pretty weak, all things considered (I know you disagree).

RETURN OF THE JEDI is a mess of a film and foreshadows most of the problems with the prequel trilogy.

RETURN OF THE KING is easily the weakest of the LORD OF THE RINGS flicks, marred by self-indulgence and laziness in the storytelling.

BACK TO THE FUTURE 3 is mildly entertaining, but still not really a great sequel.

DIE HARD 3 is the worst of its franchise. An uninteresting, anticlimactic flick with no real sense of excitement.

BOURNE ULTIMATUM was also the weakest of its franchise, a sort of slap-dash bit of filmmaking with some great set pieces but nothing else.

I have to agree with all of these comments.

The only thing I can think of is Goldfinger, the 3rd Bond flick.

The first two I understand where your coming from, same w/ BTF 3. Never seen any Die Hard flicks. And I most certainly have to disagree w/ ROTK and Ultimatum: personally I feel they are the best in their respected series and perhaps the best examples of their genre.

But to each his own. :p

Well, RETURN OF THE KING has the worst pacing out of its trilogy (especially the extended edition), and makes some poor adaptive choices. It's not significantly weaker than it's predecessors, but I'd say that both FELLOWSHIP (theatrical) and TWO TOWERS (extended edition) make for tighter, more coherent films.

And ULTIMATUM's main problem is that it doesn't have a story worth speaking of. Every "revelation" in the film is either unimportant or something we could already know, and so what we get is a patchwork of admittedly great sequences. But it's not a patch on IDENTITY, as far as overall coherency, and just as far as action thrillers go, I think SUPREMACY is better knit together.

I can understand where you're coming from, but I have to disagree. For me, it is infinitely stronger than both TOD and KOTCS.

Haha, this made me laugh. It's probably not real, but thought I'd post it anyway.

Eddie Murphy as The Riddler
Rachel Weisz as Catwoman
and Shia LaBeouf as Robin

Sounds like an awesome film.

And I thought my jokes were bad...

Oh, why so serious?

Ooh-Hoo-Hoo-Haa-Haa-Haa...



"Some men just want to watch the world burn. Grrr. Arrr..."

That pic.....What the **** ^^^???

:confused:


"Because Batman 3D is a really good title"....love it :)

Producer on the film...

http://www.superherohype.com/news/fe...ws.php?id=7973

Why dont they go the route that the Dick Tracy film took?

Cram 20 or something villians into one movie.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ba...ws.php?id=7980

Hmmmm...

I've never read the comic strip, but Dick Tracy is one of my favorite movies. I think that the mass amount of villains works for Dick Tracy in a way that wouldn't be possible for the Batman villains. For Dick Tracy, you have a large group of mafia members (plus a couple extra characters like The Tramp and Breathless). Those can fit together quite easily. Put them all in a gang, and make most of them mere cameos. They aren't really strong enough screen characters to hold their own for a film anyway.

Also, there was worry that there wouldn't be a sequel, so they put in as many as possible to appease fans of the comic. For Batman, you don't really have that worry. We pretty much know that Batman will be around for a while. Even if The Dark Knight is Nolan's last Batman, someone will make another Batman film down the line. There really isn't that sense of guarantee for Dick Tracy. It's not nearly as popular, so it was important to cram as many as you can in one film.

He's just having fun... I hope. Any sort of return for Harvey/Two-Face can only send the franchise back to its Schumacher days.