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blueoakleyz 11-06-2008 07:31 AM

I think the only "Frontier" left for INdy V HAS to be an
 
asian one.

Like some kind of Japan or Chinese mcguffin/legend. Something that will feel a bit obscure but very realistic.

Indy 1 was mostly Cairo/Egypt etc
Indy 2 was India
Indy 3 was Europe/Desert
Indy 4 was jungle

BUT either asian, or back to the desert, it HAS to feel like Indy 1 or 3.

caats 11-06-2008 08:08 AM

yeah China would be grand. they probably wouldn't be able to film there, but i would hope they'd leave the US. i'm sure the Philippines would oblige. Or i've thought Africa would be cool too.

emtiem 11-06-2008 08:17 AM

Asia would be great- a bit of Mongolia or Tibet or something so we can have a snowy Indy would be nice.
Greece is also somewhere crying out to have Indy visit- perhaps in the teaser at the beginning.

caats 11-06-2008 08:33 AM

yeah mongolia or tibet would work. really close to commies too!

snake_surprise 11-06-2008 09:56 AM

Yeah the middle east for sure, then Lucas can copy the third and most recent Mummy movie, like how he used the first one to inspire Indy 4. :rolleyes:

IndyFan89 11-06-2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueoakleyz
BUT either asian, or back to the desert, it HAS to feel like Indy 1 or 3.


I totally agree with you on that!

Texas 11-06-2008 12:37 PM

We've never seen Indy in SubSaharan Africa
 
Its gotta be Africa, more specifically Subsaharan Africa. We've already seen China at the beginning of Temple of Doom. Its time to explore Subsaharan Africa, a place not seen in the Indy film universe.

I also like the idea of a snow-bound adventure to places like Siberia, Tibet, Central Asia.

Or how how about a Polynesian location (like New Zealand), that'd be cool too.

caats 11-06-2008 12:42 PM

i like the start out on a snow bound adventure. that'd be fun.

snake_surprise 11-06-2008 12:50 PM

I have always thought that Indy 4 (now, Indy 5) should have had a sizeable amount of scenes in a snow filled environment.

Visually it is different than what we have seen, and metaphorically, it would be interesting as a representation on the winter of Indy's career and life.

Ska 11-06-2008 12:55 PM

^ I'd love Indy in some lost snow filled temple. It'd be an opportunity for some new Indy gear! :up:

Indy movies haven't really dealt with Egyptian history...sure he's been in Egypt, but what about pharaohs, curses, etc.

Dr.Sartorius 11-06-2008 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueoakleyz
asian one.

Like some kind of Japan or Chinese mcguffin/legend. Something that will feel a bit obscure but very realistic.

Indy 1 was mostly Cairo/Egypt etc
Indy 2 was India
Indy 3 was Europe/Desert
Indy 4 was jungle

BUT either asian, or back to the desert, it HAS to feel like Indy 1 or 3.


India is a part of Asia. Temple of Doom was set entirely in Asia. We begin in Shanghai, China and the adventure then continues into India in South Asia.

I wouldn't mind seeing an Indy movie set in Japan, Vietnam, or Indonesia though. The Indonesian jungle would be a great setting for an adventure.

sandiegojones 11-06-2008 01:09 PM

I think having a third of the film set in a snow filled part of the world would be cool. It gives the film a darkness because of the colorless environment and because of how harsh it can be. It worked for The Empire Strikes Back.

As long as they don't do any abominable snowmen I think they'll be okay since not too many people saw the recent Mummy film.

I like my idea (of course I do!) of Indy V starting with Indy in Cuba looking for an artifact (maybe Spanish or African in nature) on New Years Eve of 1958 and getting stuck in the Communist Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Revolution - and having to escape a la Last Crusade (did anyone ever wonder how Indy got to shore once the ship exploded?). We never see exactly how he escapes, he's just back in the USA.

Cuba was a staging ground for the Spanish during the slave trade so I thought that perhaps there could be some African artificat hidden there. Cubans also supported African revolutionaries so maybe that the way to have commies in Africa too. To go from Cuba to Africa to a wintry Northeast Asia could be a big adventure.

Stoo 11-06-2008 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas
Its gotta be Africa, more specifically Subsaharan Africa. We've already seen China at the beginning of Temple of Doom. Its time to explore Subsaharan Africa, a place not seen in the Indy film universe.

I also like the idea of a snow-bound adventure to places like Siberia, Tibet, Central Asia.

Sub-Sahara? The '50s are too late for a Zulu adventure so how about the Belgian Congo tangling with Mau Maus?
Quote:

Originally Posted by SKAbatula
I'd love Indy in some lost snow filled temple. It'd be an opportunity for some new Indy gear!

Too funny! This is exactly what I wanted for Indy 4 way back in August 2005 in this thread: Sphinx

"I like that idea. Personally, I would love to see Indy back in S.America
or somewhere else in Africa instead of the desert. "Last Crusade" was
too much of a re-hash and if Indy went back to Egypt for No.4 it would
be all too familiar. The Angkor/Ankor temples in Cambodia would be great
but, one could say, similar to "Doom".

Actually, I think it's time to go the opposite way. Have Indy in the snow.
So far, there have only been two brief scenes of him in the white stuff.
Just think about it, a brand new story and more gear for the Gear Heads."

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandiegojones
I think having a third of the film set in a snow filled part of the world would be cool. It gives the film a darkness because of the colorless environment and because of how harsh it can be. It worked for The Empire Strikes Back.

As long as they don't do any abominable snowmen I think they'll be okay since not too many people saw the recent Mummy film.

Yes! There was a photo posted from another board of a diorama using a mix of an Indy/Hoth Han Solo figure (it seems)
with a photo backdrop and it just fires the imagination. (I guess the Manitou of the Canadian northwest is too similar
to an abominable snowman.:()

So far, we've seen only him 3 brief times: Outside The Raven, in the raft, and "Mystery of the Blues".
We need MORE SNOW!

Crack that whip 11-06-2008 01:59 PM

Three words:




INDY

IN

SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!






(j/k... :p ;) )
Actually, I rather like SDJones' idea, re: Cuba. And I, too, would also like to see Indy in the snow more.

Stoo 11-06-2008 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crack that whip
INDY

IN

SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!

Have Indy do a c.1959 exosphere-to-earth, parachute jump! He could get caught on a Commie rocket
and forced to make a high-altitude bail out. (This scene would out-fridge The Fridge.:eek::p Well, not really,
since it's been done but it certainly would be in the same vein.)

Joseph Kittinger

Crack that whip 11-06-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoo
Have Indy do a c.1959 exosphere-to-earth, parachute jump! He could get caught on a Commie rocket
and forced to make a high-altitude bail out. (This scene would out-fridge The Fridge.:eek::p Well, not really,
since it's been done but it certainly would be in the same vein.)

Joseph Kittinger



You may know that Star Trek: Generations was originally to begin with Kirk recreationally parachuting from actual, above-atmosphere orbit in a special suit, but the sequence was deleted from the final film.

:)

emtiem 11-06-2008 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandiegojones
As long as they don't do any abominable snowmen I think they'll be okay since not too many people saw the recent Mummy film.


Shame, because 'Indiana Jones and the Abominable Snowmen' is quite a fun title, I think! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandiegojones
I like my idea (of course I do!) of Indy V starting with Indy in Cuba looking for an artifact (maybe Spanish or African in nature) on New Years Eve of 1958 and getting stuck in the Communist Revolution - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Revolution - and having to escape a la Last Crusade


That's really pretty nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoo
Have Indy do a c.1959 exosphere-to-earth, parachute jump! He could get caught on a Commie rocket
and forced to make a high-altitude bail out. (This scene would out-fridge The Fridge.:eek::p Well, not really,
since it's been done but it certainly would be in the same vein.)


Is it wrong that I rather like that idea too? :)

No Ticket 11-06-2008 04:09 PM

Knowing Lucas and Spielberg... Indy V will all take place with-in the continental United States and they'll film it all at George's Ranch.

sandiegojones 11-06-2008 04:31 PM

Indiana Jones and the Rocketship to the Moon?

Can you imagine Indy with a fedora on top of the space suit bubble?

Anyway, what in Africa could be Indy's prize? A tribal mask with powers? I know there are stories of ghosts in the African jungle. Maybe that could fit with GL's ideas for a ghost tale?

I saw a show yesterday about giant spiders. Could you imagine foot long spiders in the jungle too?

Or what if Indy isn't after an artifact (at least in the finale), but a mythical animal, like "Creature from the Black Lagoon"?

caats 11-06-2008 04:34 PM

Giant spiders would be a bit like harry potter

sandiegojones 11-06-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caats
Giant spiders would be a bit like harry potter

Not THAT big.

What other bugs are there? Large mosquitos? Dragonflys? Killer bees?

deckard24 11-06-2008 08:17 PM

I absolutely agree that Asia is the best setting for Indy V!

Here is an earlier thread discussing the same topic:http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=15643

caats 11-06-2008 08:21 PM

a flock of KILLER BIRDS!!!!! WITH AVIAN BIRD FLU!!

Mickiana 11-06-2008 08:23 PM

Upon Indy being found stowing away in Apollo 13 - "Houston, we have a problem."

sandiegojones 11-07-2008 08:38 AM

Maybe Indy is escaping commies in Cuba and then after a long swim he arrives in Florida and comes across a Mercury rocket launch pad, thinking it's a carnival ride (lots of people at a carnival and a good place to hide) he climbs in and then he and a test chimp get rocketed into orbit.

Then we can all say Indy "Rocked the Chimp!"

We all know SS like monkeys!

Indiana Jones and the Chimps in SSSPPPAAAACCCCEEEEEE!

foreignerfred 11-07-2008 09:23 AM

I agree that a Chinese/Asian focus is probably the best route to go. And I DEFINITELY agree that we need SNOW as a great new visual setting...but.

I know this sounds silly, and maybe a little shallow, but, I want to see Indy get really dusty/dirty like in ROTLA and LC. Seeing him all dusty and bloody is the visual cue for you to subconsciously believe that Indy has had a REALLY hard time on this adventure. I actually think the presence of so much water in KOTCS is one of its weaknesses. Not enough DUST and DIRT!

But seriously!

And check it out...There was a lot of water in TOD, but his outfit was completely shredded to pick up the loss of that specific "hard journey" visual cue. Seeing that Harrison is definitely NOT in TOD shape, they won't go that route. So...Give me SNOW, but GIVE ME DUSTY DIRT!

...Remember the dirty Indy scouring the tombs at Akator? One of the best parts, am I right?

heheh, speculate on, my friends!

IndyJr. 11-09-2008 09:53 PM

I want one Indy adventure taking place in China, Japan and Siberia, with him and Short Round... then I want one taking place in England, Scotland and Ireland focusing about Celtic archeology... something he focused on a lot very early (according to the novels).

caats 11-09-2008 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreignerfred
I agree that a Chinese/Asian focus is probably the best route to go. And I DEFINITELY agree that we need SNOW as a great new visual setting...but.

I know this sounds silly, and maybe a little shallow, but, I want to see Indy get really dusty/dirty like in ROTLA and LC. Seeing him all dusty and bloody is the visual cue for you to subconsciously believe that Indy has had a REALLY hard time on this adventure. I actually think the presence of so much water in KOTCS is one of its weaknesses. Not enough DUST and DIRT!

But seriously!

And check it out...There was a lot of water in TOD, but his outfit was completely shredded to pick up the loss of that specific "hard journey" visual cue. Seeing that Harrison is definitely NOT in TOD shape, they won't go that route. So...Give me SNOW, but GIVE ME DUSTY DIRT!

...Remember the dirty Indy scouring the tombs at Akator? One of the best parts, am I right?

heheh, speculate on, my friends!



i hear that man. when indy fought dovchenko and he got bloodied and dirty. that's how i like to see Indy.

Sakis 11-10-2008 01:09 AM

I personaly don't care if Indy's next adventure takes place in China, I just want it to be glode-trotting like Raiders and Crusade. Not that Kingdom wasn't but the first two I mentioned featured more locations, especially Crusade.
Raiders: Nepal, Egypt, Mediterranean
Crusade: Venice, Austria, Germany, Hatai
Kingdom: Peru, Amazon.

As you can see I'm reffering to the locations of the main story, not possible ones for the opening scene.:hat:

Johnny Nys 11-10-2008 01:18 AM

Geographical settings don't really matter to me. I do agree about the dust and dirt - desert settings seem to fit the character. If you want Asia, then the Gobi is the most obvious choice. Snow, why not? The southeast of the Gobi is known to have snowstorms. Though a mountainous area is probably more interesting. Ice caves, avalanches, an unintentional descent skiing on an unconventional object (but without getting the feeling of "Hey, Indy invented snowboarding" like you got with Marty McFly and skateboarding in BTTF).

Goonie 11-25-2008 05:37 AM

I say:
Asia
South Pacific
Easter Island
Siberia
or Africa - somewhere in the Congo or Kenya (where there is wildlife) or maybe he can take on some Somali pirates...:gun:

monkey 12-01-2008 05:50 AM

Very interesting thread here.

Indy 5.

Who thought???

Anyway. There seems to be a craving for SNOW here, and some kind of snowy adventure.

I say why not??

Personally I would prefer some kind of Norse archaeology, and either Iceland, Greenland, or both, for the main setting.

There is a lot of unexplored territory there........literally, if not geographically.

Of course, there must be many other settings throughout the world that will lead up to the climactic setting.

One of the main problems with Indy 5 however is.............well,.........who are the villains?

Indy 4 took place in the early fifties? right?

So when does Indy 5 take place? and who are the villains?

Nazis? surely not, in the late fifties or early sixties.

Soviets? Been there done that in Indy 4.

So who?

Please don't say Neo-Nazis.

And if Soviets........well.......that's boring.

Just who does Indy save the world from in 1958??

Howdy Doody???

Chuck Berry??

McDonalds??

Maybe Indiana Jones should just return to the 1930's.

He should get a Big Mac, and then go back to 1936.

Stoo 12-01-2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey
He should get a Big Mac, and then go back to 1936.

Indy already had an adventure withe a Big Mac in 1916. (See: Phantom Train of Doom):p

Henry-Defance 12-02-2008 12:22 AM

I think a Film Noir style Film Set in Tokyo or Hong Kong would be pretty awesome. It would also be in line with the mimicking of the times film cliches that has been inherant to the franchise.

Zorg 12-02-2008 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueoakleyz
Indy 4 was jungle


Surely you mean South America? Or, to be exact, Peru.

I'd like to see Indy's adventures in some northern location; Iceland for example. That'd be something new in Indy films.

NoCamels 12-16-2008 04:07 PM

I'd like to see some of the following: China, Japan, Cuba, Ireland, Norway, Tibet, South Pacific, Australia, Russia...

Bad Guys: probably Communists. It is most likely set in the '50s. Maybe Indy gets captured by Commies in Cuba and shipped to Russia, I don't know. But yes, film noir, spies, etc. Maybe something in Korea? Industrial espionage where a big company is trying to find a dangerous artifact? (my knowledge of the 1950s for possible bad guys is limited.)

I'd really love to see something that had to do with Indy's time in the OSS, or even the WW1 spy stuff.

Dewy9 12-16-2008 04:51 PM

What about something with Stonehenge? It's always been very mysterious.

The Man 12-16-2008 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewy9
What about something with Stonehenge? It's always been very mysterious.


Preposterous though it sounds, Halloween III actually had elements of a decent - if wacky - Indy adventure...

Nurhachi1991 12-16-2008 11:38 PM

Boring................ Come on guys think outside the box what about Indy in Space :rolleyes:

Indy's brother 12-17-2008 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCamels
I'd like to see some of the following: China, Japan, Cuba, Ireland, Norway, Tibet, South Pacific, Australia, Russia...

Bad Guys: probably Communists. It is most likely set in the '50s. Maybe Indy gets captured by Commies in Cuba and shipped to Russia, I don't know. But yes, film noir, spies, etc. Maybe something in Korea? Industrial espionage where a big company is trying to find a dangerous artifact? (my knowledge of the 1950s for possible bad guys is limited.)



Hell yeah, Cuba! There was a revolution going on there from 1953 to 1959. That's good for prequel or sequel material. Might as well leave the former Soviet Union out of the next one, those guys really got their panties in a bunch over KOTCS.

Johnny Nys 12-17-2008 12:47 AM

A lunar expedition requiring a veteran archeologist, they find this huge black monolith with strange powers, turns out it's God's remote control which gives its wielder the ability to manipulate time, and Mutt's new girlfriend, who turns out to be Hitler's illigitimate daugher, wants to use it to change the course of WWII, but the batteries are dead (which is why God left it on the moon in the first place) so they plan a mission to the sun to recharge it. But something goes wrong and the sun is about to implode into a black hole, time goes all funny and backwards and it's like a huge rewind through all the four previous movies, but then Mutt sacrifices himself by crossing the event horizon, leading to the most famous line of the movie: "Now he'll never finish school ..." His added mass reverses the process. On the return trip, they happen on a previous version of themselves due to the time distortions and Indy then grabs Mutt's other self with him, leading to the movies paradoxical outcome: "If I didn't go the sun, how did I save the world?" "We're here, aren't we?"

I wonder how a whip handles itself in zero gravity?

Mickiana 12-17-2008 01:12 AM

In space no one can hear you whip!

monkey 12-17-2008 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Nys
A lunar expedition requiring a veteran archeologist, they find this huge black monolith with strange powers, turns out it's God's remote control which gives its wielder the ability to manipulate time, and Mutt's new girlfriend, who turns out to be Hitler's illigitimate daugher, wants to use it to change the course of WWII, but the batteries are dead (which is why God left it on the moon in the first place) so they plan a mission to the sun to recharge it. But something goes wrong and the sun is about to implode into a black hole, time goes all funny and backwards and it's like a huge rewind through all the four previous movies, but then Mutt sacrifices himself by crossing the event horizon, leading to the most famous line of the movie: "Now he'll never finish school ..." His added mass reverses the process. On the return trip, they happen on a previous version of themselves due to the time distortions and Indy then grabs Mutt's other self with him, leading to the movies paradoxical outcome: "If I didn't go the sun, how did I save the world?" "We're here, aren't we?"
I wonder how a whip handles itself in zero gravity?


This is probably one of the funniest things I have read in a long time.

Thanks Johnny, you actually made me laugh out loud reading this!

Great post!


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