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RedeemedChild 04-12-2009 12:19 PM

Bring back the classic, we miss those good times!
 
There are times when I wonder where did all the good times go to?

There have been many wonderful programs that seem to attract an ocean of fans and then that's just when the rug seems to get unceremoniously pulled from under our feet. I'm speaking of some of the greatest television and movie productions which all of a sudden are removed from television, canceled, unfinished, never receive re-airings or are just plain sabotaged and forgotten.



Some of my favorite television programs that this has happened to are:

Star Trek: The Original Series, Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Xiaolin Showdown, The Batman, Legion of SuperHeroes, Jonny Quest: The Original Series, Catscratch, David Carradine's Kung Fu, Michael Landon's Little House on the Prarie, DC Comic's/The CW's AquaMan,Teen Titans, Star Trek Enterprise and The History Channel's Josh Bernstein in Digging For The Truth.



To be honest with the above mentioned programs were all suddenly and without the approval of the fans removed from television.

I still remember being among the History Channel viewers in the histoy.com forum clamoring and protesting the History Channel's removal of Digging for the Truth and demanding that they recover Josh Bernstein for the show, many people have told me that History Channel ran Bernstein off and that the show had millions of viewers.

On the other hand I have no idea why Cartoon Network got rid of my favorite blocks Toonami and Miguzi.

Miguzi and Toonami were massively popular as was toonamijetstream.com and I still believe that if fans were to band together and boycott Cartoon Network and protest without end that Cartoon Network would bring back our beloved toonami and miguzi.

I really miss Storm Hawks, Class of 3000, Jonny Quest, Pirates of Dark Water, Xiaolin Showdown, Teen Titans, The Batman and Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi. I would greatly appreciate if Cartoon Network would bring back those grand shows because I really, really miss them. They were in my opinion what I believe made Cartoon Network really great, a far better channel than Disney Channel and Jetix.

On the other hand I've no idea why Michael Landon abandoned his much beloved and highly successful Little House on the Prairie. That was one incredible program which I still enjoy to view no matter how many times I watch it.

My father continues to talk about a program called Kung-Fu staring David Carradine which I've not seen but would love to view. It bothers me that TV Land and Hallmark refuse to air Kung Fu. I'd rejoice if they'd air the show as it seems to be really good.

So I'd like to hear what you guys have to say in the matter. What do you think and how do you feel about your favorite TV programs?

BTW what exactly can we viewers do to get The CW to air and finish the unfinished AquaMan program that abandoned. How and what can we do to get Cartoon Network to re-air Class of 3000? BTW Atlanta had a Class of 3000 Live event last month. I also think that since Popeyes is all about the jazz and all that they could use Class of 3000 instead of Popeye the sailor as an advertisement force and mascot.

Morning Bell 04-12-2009 04:44 PM

I just want the good old days of Adult Swim back before it became a bunch of pretentious and annoying garbage.

QBComics 04-12-2009 08:55 PM

Class of 3000 was cancelled probably because of the lawsuit against it. Toonami (as Miguzi, I'm sure) was cancelled because it got low ratings, and Teen Titans finished. Puffy Ami Yumi was cancelled (I don't know why...), and Catscratch still runs n Nicktoons Network, I'm sure. Storm Hawks was either cancelled or it faded away (might I suggest their new show League of Super Evil? It's done by the same people.)

Oh, and The Batman wasn't well received, so I'm sure it was cancelled. That or lack of ratings. I'm also sure that Star Trek: TOS still runs, because my dad records re-runs.

Violet 04-12-2009 08:59 PM

First I was complaining about rental movies and the films of 2008 and here I am now complaining about television. :p

To be honest, the stuff talked about here so far has been about cable. Well, some of us don't do cable coz frankly it's too bloody expensive.

I would like Australian TV to put on less crime shows. We have way too many of them: all versions of CSI, NCIS, all versions of Law & Order, Bones, the various true crime shows on both 7 & 9 and all over the Sunday timeslots. In place of this, I would like to see more variety, sitcoms and talk shows as we don't have that many of those. And what we do have tends to be reality TV (mostly imported formats), the magazine style programs that claim to be the news/current affairs (that's really like a "buckets/bouquets" section of local newspaper and selling me crap I don't need), only one night talk/interview show ("Rove"), two soap operas and tons of documentaries. I tend to end up watching the documentaries because I can't stand the magazine shows, "Rove" isn't funny, I'm not into soap opera and sure, I like a crime show, but not so many.

We need more positive, happier programming (nothing stupid, just that sense of fun I'm always looking for). It's enough that I see people hurting and dying in terrible situations in the actual news and then to turn the channel and see a fictious story about people suffering and dying. It's enough to feel numb to it all unless it happens to you. If I'm not seeing others happy or hearing a good story, then how can I feel happy?

RedeemedChild 04-12-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Violet Indy
First I was complaining about rental movies and the films of 2008 and here I am now complaining about television. :p

To be honest, the stuff talked about here so far has been about cable. Well, some of us don't do cable coz frankly it's too bloody expensive.

I would like Australian TV to put on less crime shows. We have way too many of them: all versions of CSI, NCIS, all versions of Law & Order, Bones, the various true crime shows on both 7 & 9 and all over the Sunday timeslots. In place of this, I would like to see more variety, sitcoms and talk shows as we don't have that many of those. And what we do have tends to be reality TV (mostly imported formats), the magazine style programs that claim to be the news/current affairs (that's really like a "buckets/bouquets" section of local newspaper and selling me crap I don't need), only one night talk/interview show ("Rove"), two soap operas and tons of documentaries. I tend to end up watching the documentaries because I can't stand the magazine shows, "Rove" isn't funny, I'm not into soap opera and sure, I like a crime show, but not so many.

We need more positive, happier programming (nothing stupid, just that sense of fun I'm always looking for). It's enough that I see people hurting and dying in terrible situations in the actual news and then to turn the channel and see a fictious story about people suffering and dying. It's enough to feel numb to it all unless it happens to you. If I'm not seeing others happy or hearing a good story, then how can I feel happy?


I agree with you on all the crime garbage. Here in America there are beginning to be way to many crime shows such as Life On Mars, NCIS, CSI, CSI: Miami, Castle, Dollhouse, 24, Law and Order and many, many more.

Television programing seems to get darker and darker which I find very disturbing.

However, there are still some good television programs as well.

BTW QBComics I'm also think that the lawsuit over Class of 3000 might have had something to do with it being removed from Cartoon Network. As for Star Trek TOS I've not really been able to find it on television, it used to be on G4TV but I have not seen it on there in a while.

BTW Violet Indy does Dragon Ball: The Original Series and Naruto air in Australia?

The Magic Rat 04-12-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
I agree with you on all the crime garbage. Here in America there are beginning to be way to many crime shows such as Life On Mars, NCIS, CSI, CSI: Miami, Castle, Dollhouse, 24, Law and Order and many, many more.

Television programing seems to get darker and darker which I find very disturbing.

However, there are still some good television programs as well.

BTW QBComics I'm also think that the lawsuit over Class of 3000 might have had something to do with it being removed from Cartoon Network. As for Star Trek TOS I've not really been able to find it on television, it used to be on G4TV but I have not seen it on there in a while.

BTW Violet Indy does Dragon Ball: The Original Series and Naruto air in Australia?



Couple of comments:

You must be young, these shows aren't that old at all! Pining for good times from 5 years ago shouldn't count!

That said, cop shows/crime shows have been a huge part of television since the 70's, it's not that they've taking over now. They do wane and grow in popularity, though.

I wouldn't say television is getting darker, you're just pointing out shows which are. I have to say, though, recalling the late 90's/early 00's I remember how gratuitous the sex and violence was. I think it's taken a bit of a dive, but is still quite excessive.

Violet 04-12-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
I agree with you on all the crime garbage. Here in America there are beginning to be way to many crime shows such as Life On Mars, NCIS, CSI, CSI: Miami, Castle, Dollhouse, 24, Law and Order and many, many more.

Television programing seems to get darker and darker which I find very disturbing.

However, there are still some good television programs as well.

BTW QBComics I'm also think that the lawsuit over Class of 3000 might have had something to do with it being removed from Cartoon Network. As for Star Trek TOS I've not really been able to find it on television, it used to be on G4TV but I have not seen it on there in a while.

BTW Violet Indy does Dragon Ball: The Original Series and Naruto air in Australia?


Dragon Ball used to a while back, now it's gone. Naruto used to a couple of years back as well, but again has been replaced by whatever the latest anime craze is. Australia likes to renew all the time. Nothing stays on for long and no one remembers anything from a couple of years ago.

Mickey Mouse cartoons have only just returned in the last year as has Looney Tunes but it's all Ben 10 and Batman and Hanna fricking Montana.

Cartoons-wise, I pine for Sailor Moon and The Jetsons (was a fan of both as a kid). I never saw Sailor Moon cartoons beyond the end of the series with Rini. I know there's heaps more episodes coz Youtube has tons of parts of episodes but haven't been successful in finding DVD's of them.

I'd love to see "Dinosaurs" or "Alf" back on TV. I used to watch them when I was very little.

In terms of crime TV, I have to agree with Magic Rat that it's a trend at the moment. Film and TV genres often run in cycles. At the moment, the crime genre is at it's peak because it gets ratings. But the more crime shows you put on, the more competition each one has and it's beginning to reach nauseam, which means that audiences will switch off from them and tune into a different genre. Whatever that different genre is that grabs the majority will be the new genre trend and the cycle begins again. Happens all the time.

Morning Bell 04-12-2009 11:54 PM

I miss the good old days of 90's television, especially Seinfeld and The X-Files. I love Futurama as well and unfortunately that was cancelled in favor of continuing series like Family Guy and The Simpsons, shows that used to be great and have now far out-lived their prime.

Being a kid back then was great: we had shows like Garfield and Friends, The Super Mario Bros. Super Show, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and Darkwing Duck. Good times.

Robyn 04-13-2009 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Magic Rat
Couple of comments:

You must be young, these shows aren't that old at all! Pining for good times from 5 years ago shouldn't count!


I was going to say that too, most of those shows mentioned sounded fairly newer to me, certainly wasn't the good o'l times, not for me anyway lol

Agent Crab 04-13-2009 01:46 PM

I miss Rocko's Modren Life...

Catscratch is one weird show.. Waffles the cat was a favourite, though.

IndyWolf15 04-13-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Crab
I miss Rocko's Modren Life...

Catscratch is one weird show.. Waffles the cat was a favourite, though.


http://raven.theraider.net/newreply....reply&p=421492
My friend watched Cat Scratch i asked him why he liked it so much he said it helps his nerves :o he is 17, I think its to silly. I love Avatar the last Airbender i hope they keep airing the show i think its one of the best show out there. I wake up at 6am just to watch the show.

And i love Xiaolin Showdown that was one of my favorite shows, when i heard that they had stopped airing the show I thought all good shows always hast to come to a end and bad show go on.


Teen Titans GO! i love Teen Titans its a hit for myself as well, why do they have to stop writing the show i ask myself and my friends. Maybe the will starting writing the show again lets hope they do. I was amazed they stopped airing Josh Bernstein: Digging For The Truth the show had just started have fans and a lot of people liked the show, I liked one reason why it reminded me of Indiana Jones a lot with the Fedora he wore on his head:whip: .


I would go on but there are so many show that are out there that i like and many other people love that have been canceled.

RedeemedChild 04-13-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Violet Indy
Dragon Ball used to a while back, now it's gone. Naruto used to a couple of years back as well, but again has been replaced by whatever the latest anime craze is. Australia likes to renew all the time. Nothing stays on for long and no one remembers anything from a couple of years ago.

Mickey Mouse cartoons have only just returned in the last year as has Looney Tunes but it's all Ben 10 and Batman and Hanna fricking Montana.

Cartoons-wise, I pine for Sailor Moon and The Jetsons (was a fan of both as a kid). I never saw Sailor Moon cartoons beyond the end of the series with Rini. I know there's heaps more episodes coz Youtube has tons of parts of episodes but haven't been successful in finding DVD's of them.

I'd love to see "Dinosaurs" or "Alf" back on TV. I used to watch them when I was very little.

In terms of crime TV, I have to agree with Magic Rat that it's a trend at the moment. Film and TV genres often run in cycles. At the moment, the crime genre is at it's peak because it gets ratings. But the more crime shows you put on, the more competition each one has and it's beginning to reach nauseam, which means that audiences will switch off from them and tune into a different genre. Whatever that different genre is that grabs the majority will be the new genre trend and the cycle begins again. Happens all the time.


I like your tastes when it comes to television programs VioletIndy. BTW Naruto, Dragon Ball, Flash Gordon, Superman, Iron Man, Wolverine and the X-Men are what's really popular here in America at the moment along with Hannah Montana, The Simpsons, The Andy Griffith Show, Leave It To Beaver and The Jonas Brothers.

BTW The Magic Rat your right regarding my age, I was born in 1988. BTW I do understand that television goes through cycles. Adam 12 and Hawaii Five-O are prime examples of crime shows that were the mainstay of viewers in olden days before my time. I find Adam 12 to be very nice surprisingly.

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As far as The Jetsons are concerned VioletIndy I've never really been able to watch it, but I do admire what I've seen of the program.

I also really like the old Jonny Quest and I hope to be able to watch The Jetsons and Jonny Quest again before the new movies are released next year. I hope the new Jonny Quest and The Jetsons movies will be as good as the Speed Racer movie we got year before last year. I'm really praying this new J.J. Abrams Star Trek will be good and faithful to the Star Trek TOS because that last "this is not your fathers Star Trek" TV Spot was awful.

To honest William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy and Patrick Stewart truly cannot be replaced for they are the heart and soul of Star Trek.


Nurhachi1991 04-13-2009 08:20 PM

I miss 90s shows.............. Kennan and Kel was pretty funny and does anyone remember Are you Afraid of the dark?



I stopped likeing kid orientated cartoons after Hey Arnold and Rugrats stopped showing. Kids shows nowadays just dumb down children.

The Drifter 04-14-2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurhachi1991
I miss 90s shows.............. Kennan and Kel was pretty funny and does anyone remember Are you Afraid of the dark?



I stopped likeing kid orientated cartoons after Hey Arnold and Rugrats stopped showing. Kids shows nowadays just dumb down children.


Yes, I remember Are You Afraid of the Dark, Salute Your Shorts, Hey Dude, and Kennan and Kel.
Also, I loved Ren and Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life, Angry Beavers, and Doug. I also used to watch Saved By the Bell, Boy Meets World, and all the dumb shows that aired on TGIF.

IndyWolf15 04-14-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
I like your tastes when it comes to television programs VioletIndy. BTW Naruto, Dragon Ball, Flash Gordon, Superman, Iron Man, Wolverine and the X-Men are what's really popular here in America at the moment along with Hannah Montana, The Simpsons, The Andy Griffith Show, Leave It To Beaver and The Jonas Brothers.

BTW The Magic Rat your right regarding my age, I was born in 1988. BTW I do understand that television goes through cycles. Adam 12 and Hawaii Five-O are prime examples of crime shows that were the mainstay of viewers in olden days before my time. I find Adam 12 to be very nice surprisingly.

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As far as The Jetsons are concerned VioletIndy I've never really been able to watch it, but I do admire what I've seen of the program.

I also really like the old Jonny Quest and I hope to be able to watch The Jetsons and Jonny Quest again before the new movies are released next year. I hope the new Jonny Quest and The Jetsons movies will be as good as the Speed Racer movie we got year before last year. I'm really praying this new J.J. Abrams Star Trek will be good and faithful to the Star Trek TOS because that last "this is not your fathers Star Trek" TV Spot was awful.

To honest William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy and Patrick Stewart truly cannot be replaced for they are the heart and soul of Star Trek.




I like the Jetson's its pretty funny. Ben 10, Ben 10 Alien Force is the best show on cartoon network, and i like Johny Test now that show is really funny but it can be really dumb sometimes, i think the show is parody of Jonny Quest. . I hope they never stop writing Ben 10, i hope they keep going the way they are and never mess the show up.

Jonny Quest is one of my favorite shows i have only seen two episodes because it is so hard to find the episode's online or at the library.

Attila the Professor 04-14-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
I like your tastes when it comes to television programs VioletIndy. BTW Naruto, Dragon Ball, Flash Gordon, Superman, Iron Man, Wolverine and the X-Men are what's really popular here in America at the moment along with Hannah Montana, The Simpsons, The Andy Griffith Show, Leave It To Beaver and The Jonas Brothers.


What America are you living in where Andy Griffith and Jerry Mathers have that much popularity?

The Drifter 04-14-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Attila the Professor
What America are you living in where Andy Griffith and Jerry Mathers have that much popularity?


I love the Andy Griffith Show. But, I despise Leave It To Beaver.

Attila the Professor 04-14-2009 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonsome_Drifter
I love the Andy Griffith Show. But, I despise Leave It To Beaver.


I can enjoy Leave it to Beaver, but it can't come close to how great Mayberry is, I agree.

DocWhiskey 04-14-2009 03:02 PM

Andy Griffith and Leave it to Beaver are boring as hell to me. Dick Van Dyke and All in the Family is where it's at.

Stoo 04-14-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
Adam 12 and Hawaii Five-O are prime examples of crime shows that were the mainstay of viewers in olden days before my time. I find Adam 12 to be very nice surprisingly.

If you like "Adam-12", you might like "Dragnet" and "Emergency!". All produced by Jack Webb (star of "Dragnet"). He also produced a cool, short-lived series called, "Project: UFO" about the USAF's Project Blue Book which I would LOVE to see again. Now, those are what one calls CLASSICS.;)

The Drifter 04-14-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoo
If you like "Adam-12", you might like "Dragnet" and "Emergency!". All produced by Jack Webb (star of "Dragnet"). He also produced a cool, short-lived series called, "Project: UFO" about the USAF's Project Blue Book which I would LOVE to see again. Now, those are what one calls CLASSICS.;)


My dad used to watch Dragnet alot. Sargent Joe Friday was cool, and the "Blue Boy" episode is classic.
Do you remember the sitcom called "Car 54 Where Are You?"?

RedeemedChild 04-29-2009 03:29 PM

I'd love to see a new animated Conan The Barbarian show as well. Hopefully it could be made by the team who made the remake of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe back in 2002 for Cartoon Network or by the team who made Atlantis The Lost Empire at Walt Disney.

So far the only animated Conan The Barbarian programs that we've had are Conan The Adventurer and Conan and the Young Warriors and it's to bad no one is airing those shows. Hopefully we can an animated Conan The Barbarian on either Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon sooner or later.

RedeemedChild 04-30-2009 01:53 PM

Am I to believe that there are no Conan the Barbarian fans in The Raven?

What are you guys thoughts on reviving Conan The Barbarian?

The Drifter 04-30-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
Am I to believe that there are no Conan the Barbarian fans in The Raven?

What are you guys thoughts on reviving Conan The Barbarian?


I am a HUGE Conan the Barbarian fan. Have you ever read the original writings by his creator Robert E. Howard?
Conan did not start in the Arnold movies, or the Marvel comics. Conan was the creation of Howard for the pulp magazine Weird Tales in the 1930s.

If you've never read the true stuff by Howard, I HIGHLY recommend you buy the complete Conan tales from Del Rey books. It is a collection of three books and has every short story about Conan from his creator that was published and unpublished by Weird Tales.

Robert E. Howard also created King Kull, Bran Mak Morn, and Solomon Kane among many others.
Kull, Bran, and Kane's short stories can be bought from Del Rey as well.

I warn you, RC. I know you can get offended by things easy, the original writings are very dark and involve sacrifices to ancient gods that were really worshiped in the ancient days, as well as rape and other dark themes.

RedeemedChild 04-30-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonsome_Drifter
I am a HUGE Conan the Barbarian fan. Have you ever read the original writings by his creator Robert E. Howard?
Conan did not start in the Arnold movies, or the Marvel comics. Conan was the creation of Howard for the pulp magazine Weird Tales in the 1930s.

If you've never read the true stuff by Howard, I HIGHLY recommend you buy the complete Conan tales from Del Rey books. It is a collection of three books and has every short story about Conan from his creator that was published and unpublished by Weird Tales.

Robert E. Howard also created King Kull, Bran Mak Morn, and Solomon Kane among many others.
Kull, Bran, and Kane's short stories can be bought from Del Rey as well.

I warn you, RC. I know you can get offended by things easy, the original writings are very dark and involve sacrifices to ancient gods that were really worshiped in the ancient days, as well as rape and other dark themes.


Thanks Lonsome Drifter! BTW I know about the older books but I chose to avoid them because of the darker content and antihero aspects they contained.

I'm pleased to learn that you are a Conan The Barbarian fan. I also like Conan a lot. I really like the cartoons Conan The Adventurer and Conan and the Young Warriors and sincerely hope that Cartoon Network or NickToons will create a new Conan The Barbarian animated series helmed by either the makers of Wolverine and The X-Men or the 2002 He-Man and the Masters of the Universe creators.

I've also noticed that some comic book stores are beginning to carry more Conan the Barbarian comics and toys. Hopefully Conan The Barbarian will be revived in the mainstream arena and it is my hope that either Peter Jackson (LOTR), Andrew Adamson (Chronicles of Narnia) or Jerry Bruckheimer (POTC) will create a new Conan The Barbarian movie as well. It'd also be nice if the team behind Age of Empires and Sid Meiers Pirates could come together and create some good E10+ and T for Teens Conan the Barbarian games for Sony PSP, Nintendo DS and XBOX 360 as I've noticed a lot of children are taking an interest in Conan the Barbarian in the area in which I live.

The Drifter 04-30-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
Thanks Lonsome Drifter! BTW I know about the older books but I chose to avoid them because of the darker content and antihero aspects they contained.

I'm pleased to learn that you are a Conan The Barbarian fan. I also like Conan a lot. I really like the cartoons Conan The Adventurer and Conan and the Young Warriors and sincerely hope that Cartoon Network or NickToons will create a new Conan The Barbarian animated series helmed by either the makers of Wolverine and The X-Men or the 2002 He-Man and the Masters of the Universe creators.

I've also noticed that some comic book stores are beginning to carry more Conan the Barbarian comics and toys. Hopefully Conan The Barbarian will be revived in the mainstream arena and it is my hope that either Peter Jackson (LOTR), Andrew Adamson (Chronicles of Narnia) or Jerry Bruckheimer (POTC) will create a new Conan The Barbarian movie as well. It'd also be nice if the team behind Age of Empires and Sid Meiers Pirates could come together and create some good E10+ and T for Teens Conan the Barbarian games for Sony PSP, Nintendo DS and XBOX 360 as I've noticed a lot of children are taking an interest in Conan the Barbarian in the area in which I live.


I respect your choice not to read Howard's yarns, but I can tell you which short-stories about Conan that are more toward your tastes if you wished.
I would love to see a new Conan movie, but I would have to say that I would want it to be more true to Robert E. Howard's vision, and that would mean no family-friendly setup.

There have been rumors regarding a new movie. One was that the brothers who made The Matrix movies was involved, and another was that Sly Stallone was to play Conan.
Also, there is a new cartoon movie based from Howard's short-story called Red Nails in production. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0485621/

Also, there is a video game Conan on PS3 and 360, but it shows bare breasts in the game. So, I don't know if you'd be interested in that.
But, please do me a favor and go to wikipedia and look up Howard's stories on Conan, Kull, Bran Mak Morn, and Soloman Kane and read the synopsis for each story and pick some you may like and at least check them out.

RedeemedChild 05-01-2009 05:48 AM

Sure Lonesome, in fact some people have already been filling me in on some of the older materials that are fairly descent, including the Marvel Conan The Barbarian comics. I'm more of a comic book fan when it comes to heroes like He-Man, Conan and Thor than I am of text books.

BTW I am aware of the M rated Conan game but due to my faith and personal ideas I stayed away from that. However I've played the first Halo and the first Fable, but although they were M rated they were free from sexual content and further I've not played any other M rated games besides those two. On the other hand I helped lobby for a T rated game and along the other protesters I feel that our voice was heard by the guys at Bungie in the Halo Wars getting a T rating.

I have found a lot of support in various forums and other places for a new animated series on Conan the Barbarian that would follow in the steps of Conan The Adventure (1990's Conan cartoon), however I think Cartoon Network might be the only station willing to air it as they are bent on increasing their action, adventure genre that is now going strong with programs like Naruto, Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Ben10 Alien Force.

I also feel that there is a need for T and E10+ rated Conan the Barbarian games as a younger audience is gathering day by day for Conan and especially after Barack OBama expressed his liking for Conan the Barbarian and Spider-Man in the same sentence.

I'm not so sure which will come first to the box office because Conan the Barbarian seems to be in hiatus while production on Greyskull: Masters of the Universe seems to be nearing finalization and to my pleasure I've also learned that it (Greyskull: MOTU) will be a lot like LOTR and Narnia. I'm also hoping that Jerry Bruckheimer if not Peter Jackson or Andrew Adamson will produce the Conan movie because I really like what he did with Pirates of the Caribbean and if he did such a wonderful job with Pirates and National Treasure than I know he can really make something out of Conan the Barbarian and besides he is already being praised for his work with Prince of Persia.

The Drifter 05-01-2009 01:05 PM

Dark Horse has the redone issues of the Marvel Conan comics in their ongoing series of graphic novels. The art is remastered as well, but the rest is original. I highly recommend looking into those. The run with Roy Thomas as writer and Big John Buscema as penciler are epic.

I had alot of these figures that came with the old cartoon. I only have two left from my childhood and they are of Conan and Set (or what it Wrath-Amon?)

That picture is not mine, and I can't seem to find one for the villian. I need to take some pictures of them when I get them outta storage.

Here are the short stories of Conan by Robert E. Howard:

The Phoenix on the Sword
The Scarlet Citadel
The Tower of the Elephant
Black Colossus
Xuthal of the Dusk
The Pool of the Black One
Rogues in the House
Iron Shadows in the Moon
Queen of the Black Coast
The Devil in Iron
The People of the Black Circle
A Witch Shall Be Born
Jewels of Gwahlur
Beyond the Black River
Man-Eaters of Zamboula (or Shadows in Zamboula)
The Hour of the Dragon
Red Nails
The Frost Giant's Daughter
The God in the Bowl
The Vale of Lost Women
The Black Stranger
The Snout in the Dark*
Drums of Tombalku*
The Hall of the Dead*
The Hand of Nergal*


The * means that those stories were not finished before he died. But, they are still collected in the Del Rey books.

I recommend that you get the first book in the Del Rey collection and read The Tower of the Elephant, Phoenix on the Sword, and The Queen of the Black Coast first.

Here are his Kull of Atlantis stories:

The Shadow Kingdom
The Mirrors of Tuzun Thune
The Alter and the Scorpion
The Black City
By This Axe, I Rule
The Curse of the Golden Skull
Delcarde's Cat
Exile of Atlantis
The Skull of Silence
The Striking of the Gong
Swords of the Purple Kingdom
The King and the Oak (A poem)


Here are his stories that revolve around his Pictish King, Bran Mak Morn:

Kings of the Night
The Dark Man
Worms of the Earth
Men of the Shadows
Bran Mak Morn
The Children of the Night


And, here is the stories about his Puritan hero who traveled the globe destroying evil; Solomon Kane!

Red Shadows
Skulls in the Stars
Rattle of Bones
The Moon of Skulls
Hills of the Dead
The Footfalls Within
Wings in the Night
Blades of the Brotherhood
The Right Hand of Doom
Death's Black Riders*
The Castle of the Devil*
The Children of Asshur* (Watch that be censored!)
The Hawk of Basti*
The One Black Stain (Poem)
The Return of Sir Richard Grenville (Poem)
Solomon Kane's Homecoming (Poem)


Again, * means unfinished works. Also, I have every one of these stories, and if you are interested in one. I will gladly write a short synopsis for you.
And, did you know that Robert E. Howard also wrote westerns?

Nurhachi1991 05-01-2009 11:11 PM

Leave it to beaver was alright I liked Whitey


but this episode took the cake


RedeemedChild 05-02-2009 10:32 PM

I'll have to see if I can find some of the remastered Marvel Comics at Barnes and Noble or Books A Million. I also think that The Scarlet Citadel, Kings of the Night and Wings of the Night sound like good titles. I would like to see synopsis (if only it is not inconvenient for you) of those and is it possible to find some of the books you listed at a store like Barnes and Noble?

BTW how do you feel about Jerry Bruckheimer handling a Conan The Barbarian movie after seeing his work with Pirates of the Caribbean and Prince of Persia and what is your opinion regarding the 2002 Cartoon Network He-Man and the Masters of the Universe and how do you feel about the new Greyskull: Masters of the Universe movie?

The Drifter 05-03-2009 12:09 PM

Yes, you can find them at a store like Barnes and Noble. If you go to the store you may need to ask them to order the ones you want.
Here are the books:
The Conquering Sword of Conan
The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian
The Bloody Crown of Conan
Bran Mak Morn: The Last King
Kull: King of Antlantis
The Savage Tales of Solomon Kane

Those six books contain every story that I listed in my previous post.

Here is some information for The Scarlet Citadel.
The Scarlet Citadel" was the second Conan story to be printed by Weird Tales magazine and involves an older, wiser Conan as king of Aquilonia. King Conan receives a call for help from Amalrus, the ruler of neighbouring Ophir, who claims that Stradabonus, the king of Koth, is threatening his border.

When Conan marches to the aid of Amalrus with five thousand Aquilonian knights, the planned campaign is revealed to be a trap as Amalrus and Strabonus are working together to destroy Conan with the assistance of a Kothian wizard named Tsotha-lanti. The Aquilonian knights are cut to pieces and, having been taken prisoner, Conan is imprisoned in a Korshemish dungeon. This dungeon is used by the imperial wizard Tsotha-lanti for nefarious experiments and the story is largely a dark tour of that dungeon as Conan tries to escape.

In the dungeon, Conan frees Pelias, a former rival of Tsotha-lanti, who helps Conan to escape imprisonment and regain the throne of Aquilonia. The story climaxes in a gigantic battle with Tsotha-lanti meeting a grisly fate at the talons of Pelias.


That text was taken from it's wiki-page. Now, in my opinion; I adore this story. Conan faces a classic foe deep within the dungeon. The yarn has a good adventure element to it, and is classic purple prose.

Also, here is a painting by Frank Frazetta for the story:


Kings of the Night is about Bran Mak Morn the Pictish King during the dawn of the Roman Empire.
We are let known, that Bran and his people are the descendants of the savage Picts during Conan's time. Also the yarn explores how Bran Mak Morn is the descendant of Brule the Spear-Slayer (Who was friend and comrade to Kull thousands of years before.)
Here is a painting of Bran Mak Morn:


It's been a long time since I have read the Solomon Kane tales, and I can't remember that much about Wings in the Night. But, this is from Wikipedia.
First published in Weird Tales, July 1932. In Africa again, Kane comes across an entire village wiped out, and all of the roofs have been ripped off, as if by something was trying to get inside from above.
Here is a painting of Solomon Kane:


Also, I would not mind seeing Jerry Bruckheimer direct a Conan movie, but I would still rather see Peter Jackson do it. I think Jackson would handle the subject matter better. In all of Howard's Conan tales there is one main theme and that is that barbarianism is the natural state of mankind, and that barbarianism will always triumph over civilization. The civilized world is in truth more dirty, and back-stabbing then savagery, and that the political rulers are more corrupt than any barbarian.
I think Jackson could handle that better.

Now, I would like to see Bruckheimer direct a Dragon Lance movie!

IndyWolf15 05-03-2009 01:26 PM

That's one thing i like about Barnes and Nobles they have a lot of my favorite old Books and Movies, a lot of the movies that are there are old shows that my Dad watched as a child, out of all the favorite shows my dad watched it was Zorro staring Guy Williams, my dad LOVED that show and so does my mother, brother and myself.


And my Family loves Lost in Space, my mother's favorite character is Doctor Smith, i like him as well i think Doctor Smith is a really funny character. I think if Doctor Smith was never in the film i think the TV Series would not have gotten a lot of attention from the fans, But with the all the characters in the series it makes it wonderful A+.



Bonanza is one of the best western TV series out there as well in my point of view no bad words just a wholesome series it teaches you morals, wisdom, discernment and right and wrong its just a wonderful show as well, you wont feel bad after watching a episode and thinking to yourself i really should have watched something els.



Another one of my favorite shows is Daniel Boone staring Fess Parker i found out about the series well my dad told me and now i enjoy the show, the series teaches you as well morals and other things. if you want to see a good show that's the one to see as well, now you can hardly find a show that's worth while and you wont feel bad after watching the show:hat: .



I all so like the movie he stars in Davy Crockett

Oh and BTW the reason i have not been on is because I'm sick with this Virus i got from eating dairy, my dad bought some yogurt and it said K but it was not and after we ate it my mom read the ingredients i almost fainted.:(
Plz don't think i have the SWINE FLU PEOPLE WILL BE HAULING MY MOM AND I OFF BECAUSE WERE SICK!

The Drifter 05-03-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyWolf15
Bonanza is one of the best western TV series out there as well in my point of view no bad words just a wholesome series it teaches you morals, wisdom, discernment and right and wrong its just a wonderful show as well, you wont feel bad after watching a episode and thinking to yourself i really should have watched something els.


Me and my dad enjoy Bonanza as well as Gunsmoke and other old western shows.

Agent Crab 05-03-2009 01:46 PM

I have a ton of old cartoons on DVD from the 80's. Such as Transformers, G.I Joe, Captain N the Game Master, Mario's Cartoons and so on. Garfield and Friends was pure classic in my opinion.

IndyWolf15 05-03-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonsome_Drifter
Me and my dad enjoy Bonanza as well as Gunsmoke and other old western shows.


My grandmother was a fan of Gunsmoke not anymore do she passed away when i was 3 i still remember her even do i was small. I watched the show sometimes, but my mother doesn't like the show because its to violent. So i don't watch the show that much.

I like the A-Team as well it's a pretty good show.

ResidentAlien 05-03-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
On the other hand I helped lobby for a T rated game and along the other protesters I feel that our voice was heard by the guys at Bungie in the Halo Wars getting a T rating.



T-Rated games, now endorsed by 'god'! :up: He doesn't like red pixels!



Lol, this topic is a million laughs.

WilliamBoyd8 05-03-2009 06:24 PM

I once watched all 166 episodes of the early 1960's show "Route 66".

IndyWolf15 05-04-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamBoyd8
I once watched all 166 episodes of the early 1960's show "Route 66".



My dad watched Route 66 when he was a young person, but i have never seen the TV series, maybe i will see the series some day. We have a channel called RTN and they show mostly every old TV shows you can think of. I'm sure some of you Indy fans know the Channel.


RedeemedChild 07-29-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonsome_Drifter
Yes, you can find them at a store like Barnes and Noble. If you go to the store you may need to ask them to order the ones you want.
Here are the books:
The Conquering Sword of Conan
The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian
The Bloody Crown of Conan
Bran Mak Morn: The Last King
Kull: King of Antlantis
The Savage Tales of Solomon Kane

Those six books contain every story that I listed in my previous post.

Here is some information for The Scarlet Citadel.
The Scarlet Citadel" was the second Conan story to be printed by Weird Tales magazine and involves an older, wiser Conan as king of Aquilonia. King Conan receives a call for help from Amalrus, the ruler of neighbouring Ophir, who claims that Stradabonus, the king of Koth, is threatening his border.

When Conan marches to the aid of Amalrus with five thousand Aquilonian knights, the planned campaign is revealed to be a trap as Amalrus and Strabonus are working together to destroy Conan with the assistance of a Kothian wizard named Tsotha-lanti. The Aquilonian knights are cut to pieces and, having been taken prisoner, Conan is imprisoned in a Korshemish dungeon. This dungeon is used by the imperial wizard Tsotha-lanti for nefarious experiments and the story is largely a dark tour of that dungeon as Conan tries to escape.

In the dungeon, Conan frees Pelias, a former rival of Tsotha-lanti, who helps Conan to escape imprisonment and regain the throne of Aquilonia. The story climaxes in a gigantic battle with Tsotha-lanti meeting a grisly fate at the talons of Pelias.


That text was taken from it's wiki-page. Now, in my opinion; I adore this story. Conan faces a classic foe deep within the dungeon. The yarn has a good adventure element to it, and is classic purple prose.

Also, here is a painting by Frank Frazetta for the story:


Kings of the Night is about Bran Mak Morn the Pictish King during the dawn of the Roman Empire.
We are let known, that Bran and his people are the descendants of the savage Picts during Conan's time. Also the yarn explores how Bran Mak Morn is the descendant of Brule the Spear-Slayer (Who was friend and comrade to Kull thousands of years before.)
Here is a painting of Bran Mak Morn:


It's been a long time since I have read the Solomon Kane tales, and I can't remember that much about Wings in the Night. But, this is from Wikipedia.
First published in Weird Tales, July 1932. In Africa again, Kane comes across an entire village wiped out, and all of the roofs have been ripped off, as if by something was trying to get inside from above.
Here is a painting of Solomon Kane:


Also, I would not mind seeing Jerry Bruckheimer direct a Conan movie, but I would still rather see Peter Jackson do it. I think Jackson would handle the subject matter better. In all of Howard's Conan tales there is one main theme and that is that barbarianism is the natural state of mankind, and that barbarianism will always triumph over civilization. The civilized world is in truth more dirty, and back-stabbing then savagery, and that the political rulers are more corrupt than any barbarian.
I think Jackson could handle that better.

Now, I would like to see Bruckheimer direct a Dragon Lance movie!


Well Lonesome Drifter, I'm sure you've been following Jerry Bruckheimer and his lasted project The Prince of Persia. Now after seeing what he has done so far with The Prince of Persia how do you feel now, as of today about him helming Conan the Barbarian. BTW what is Dragon Lance? Is it a newer adaption of Dungeons and Dragons?

Agent Crab 07-29-2009 02:01 PM

I was only 14 when Toonami came out.

I remember Sci Fi Channel having a block called "Sci Fi Channel Cartoon Quest".

Nick use to air some pretty great blocks in the 80's and early to mid 90's. The SHOUT! Factory has relased the first season of Transformers on DVD and GI Joe cartoons are around the area also!

The Drifter 07-29-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
Well Lonesome Drifter, I'm sure you've been following Jerry Bruckheimer and his lasted project The Prince of Persia. Now after seeing what he has done so far with The Prince of Persia how do you feel now, as of today about him helming Conan the Barbarian. BTW what is Dragon Lance? Is it a newer adaption of Dungeons and Dragons?



I would not mind him taking the reins for a new Conan movie. I don't really care who does it as long as they stay true to Robert E. Howard's work.
And, DragonLance is another realm from DnD set in the land of Krynn. There are the first three books from the series that tale of the first hero's adventures. I suggest you read them.

deckard24 07-30-2009 08:33 AM

I gotta say I'm a little confused by the choices in the poll! With the exception of Johnny Quest, aren't these shows a little new to be considered "classics"?

I don't know what the official cut-off would be to deem a show or movie a classic, but I would guess at least 20+ years.

Dragnet, The Six Million Dollar Man, In Search Of, Kung Fu, Hogan's Heroes, these are more in line with what I was thinking, and go back a lot further then 5-10 years.

Rocket Surgeon 07-30-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by deckard24
I gotta say I'm a little confused by the choices in the poll! With the exception of Johnny Quest, aren't these shows a little new to be considered "classics"?

I don't know what the official cut-off would be to deem a show or movie a classic, but I would guess at least 20+ years.

The Six Million Dollar Man, In Search Of, Kung Fu, Hogan's Heroes, these are more in line with what I was thinking, and go back a lot further then 5-10 years.


Cheers to that...and The Munsters, Star Trek,

RedeemedChild 07-30-2009 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by deckard24
I gotta say I'm a little confused by the choices in the poll! With the exception of Johnny Quest, aren't these shows a little new to be considered "classics"?

I don't know what the official cut-off would be to deem a show or movie a classic, but I would guess at least 20+ years.

Dragnet, The Six Million Dollar Man, In Search Of, Kung Fu, Hogan's Heroes, these are more in line with what I was thinking, and go back a lot further then 5-10 years.


Well you do have a very good point there. However, when I made the poll I was primarily concerned with the direction in which Cartoon Network was going as from a very early age I've always admired animation and thought that Cartoon Network was one of the best television stations airing good, clean and high quality animated programs like Speed Racer, Jonny Quest and Samurai Jack along with the major CN hallmark Dexter's Laboratory.

However I also have heard people (my contemporaries, youth, young adults) referring to the some of the programs in the poll as "classics" and I do hope that you agree with me that most if not all of the current programs on Cartoon Network (i.e. 6Teen, Flapjack, Total Drama Island) and other TV stations such as Dancing With the Stars, Drawn Together, Wipeout, Gay, Straight or Taken, Tyra and Desperate Housewives is pure "garbage".

Television programing has gone in a downward spiral and I miss good quality and wholesome entertainment that the "whole family" can gather around.

But to answer you, yes I agree that Bonanza, The Ten Million Dollar Man, Green Acres and Laredo are more classic to those who are older than I and my peers. And no worries for I indeed enjoy and like programs like Laredo and Buck Rogers.

BTW I do feel that Pirates of Dark Water is indeed a classic that deserves a revival and SciFi's Flash Gordon was quite good in my opinion. I've never really seen the the original Flash Gordon but I have read at lest two or three original Flash Gordon classic comic strips and felt as if SciFi's Flash Gordon was inline with those original comics. However I'm open to your thoughts deckard24.

Agent Crab 07-30-2009 10:29 AM

Cartoon Network went down hill eons ago. Stuff like Johnny Bravo, Courage, Dexter and so on were great shows. Total Drama BS. Flapjack, CN's live action TV programs and Chowder are really lame. The only good show that came from Cartoon Network now was Transformers Animated; but that ended it's run. It's a shame, it was a really good show. I could care less about Adult Swim.

Boomerang does air older CN shows and will air Loony Toons, Tom and Jerry and so on as well.

Shows on Fox Kids were great as well. In the early 90's, there was Bobby's World, Peter Pan and the Pirates, Eek the Cat and even Tiny Toons. Even NBC showed good cartoons, before it ended it's cartoon blocks on Saturday in the early 90's.

RedeemedChild 07-30-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Crab
Cartoon Network went down hill eons ago. Stuff like Johnny Bravo, Courage, Dexter and so on were great shows. Total Drama BS. Flapjack, CN's live action TV programs and Chowder are really lame. The only good show that came from Cartoon Network now was Transformers Animated; but that ended it's run. It's a shame, it was a really good show. I could care less about Adult Swim.

Boomerang does air older CN shows and will air Loony Toons, Tom and Jerry and so on as well.

Shows on Fox Kids were great as well. In the early 90's, there was Bobby's World, Peter Pan and the Pirates, Eek the Cat and even Tiny Toons. Even NBC showed good cartoons, before it ended it's cartoon blocks on Saturday in the early 90's.


Yes, I also liked and enjoyed Transformers Animated. I to liked FOX Box which I believe is now know as 4kidsTV which airs on the CW.

I never knew that SciFi (now know as SyFy) had an animated program block but I wonder if they will restore it now that SyFy has begun a campaign to attract younger viewers with programs like last year's Tin Man and the upcoming Alice in Wonderland mini series entitled Alice. I do appreciate that they do air "classic" programs like The Twilight Zone and Star Trek and I hope that this trend will continue, perhaps they will even begin to air the original classic Star Wars trilogy and reruns of Star Wars Clone Wars The Micro-Series, Irwin Allen's classic and beloved Lost in Space and The Time Tunnel along with Land of the Giants.

Agent Crab 07-30-2009 07:50 PM

It's 4Kids TV now. It was first Fox kids, then FoxBox, then 4Kids. Sci Fi Cartoon Quest showed alot of decent cartoons such as Transformers, Bionic Six, Ewoks, Droids and so on. USA Cartoon Express aired GI Joe, Real Ghost Busters and even GO-BOTS. Sci Fi also aired some decent anime. Not that **** on Cartoon Network.

Nurhachi1991 07-30-2009 07:55 PM

I miss Family Guy............ They need new episodes and not that Cleveland show crap

RedeemedChild 07-30-2009 09:01 PM

I miss G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero and G.I. Joe Sigma 6.

Hopefully the creators of Teen Titans, Ben10 and Justice League: The Final Frontier can come together to create a new animated G.I. Joe television series that would have a tone similar to that of Star Wars The Clone Wars and at the same time carry the same spirit of the classic 1960's G.I. Joe.

Agent Crab 08-03-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeemedChild
I miss G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero and G.I. Joe Sigma 6.

Hopefully the creators of Teen Titans, Ben10 and Justice League: The Final Frontier can come together to create a new animated G.I. Joe television series that would have a tone similar to that of Star Wars The Clone Wars and at the same time carry the same spirit of the classic 1960's G.I. Joe.


Would G.I Joe Resolute Tickle your fancy?



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