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The Drifter 10-30-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Montana Smith
So you mean that the white circle isn't a new form of Klingon death ray? :p


No, it's a floating hoola-hoop.

StoneTriple 11-10-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocket Surgeon
Which includes a link to an even MORE facinating page:

SECRET HISTORY OF STAR WARS


I'm a big supporter of that site. I was able to read the early drafts of the book as Kaminski was writing it. I also have a small piece written on the site (not in the book).

Another site I support;

http://savestarwars.com/

My Star Wars fandom differs from most other people, which is beyond the scope of this thread. Suffice to say, I'm not a fan of Lucas where his treatment of, and constant lying about, Star Wars are concerned. My dislike, however, does not carry over into Indiana Jones. He's part of this franchise, not the sole controlling voice - thank God.

Another interesting Star Wars site;

http://moongadget.com/origins/index.html

Rocket Surgeon 11-11-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by StoneTriple
Suffice to say, I'm not a fan of Lucas where his treatment of, and constant lying about, Star Wars are concerned.

Its probably a good meter for gauging the Indiana Jones rumors...and the comments from Lucas himself.
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Originally Posted by StoneTriple
My dislike, however, does not carry over into Indiana Jones. He's part of this franchise, not the sole controlling voice - thank God.

Though you see what happens when he exerts his will: Interdimensional beings indeed!:rolleyes:

StoneTriple 11-11-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonsome_Drifter
No, it's a floating hoola-hoop.


See - if R2 had been paying attention instead of jacking around with that damn kids toy, he would have noticed the gaping hole in the side of his ship. But no, he was preoccupied and ended up getting sucked out into the vacuum of space.

EgyptianPharaoh 11-11-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Montana Smith

Yea...and another way to find out is to watch that movie and see!..To bad I don't have it....:(

Rocket Surgeon 11-27-2010 10:54 AM

Darth Vader costume fails to find new owner
 
First chink in the SW armor!

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LONDON — Auctioneers overestimated the power of the dark side.

An original Darth Vader costume from a "Star Wars" movie did not sell at auction Thursday when no bidder offered to pay the reserve price, Christie's auctioneers said.

The outfit — a jet-black helmet, mask and armor — was expected to sell for between 160,000 pounds and 230,000 pounds ($250,000 to $365,000). The reserve price is confidential but generally it is just under the minimum expected price.

Is it possible he's devalued the franchise? Has SW lost it's luster?

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Meanwhile, a gun used in an advertising campaign for a James Bond movie was sold for more than 10 times its estimated value at Thursday's auction of movie memorabilia.

The Walther air pistol held by Bond actor Sean Connery in the poster for the 1963 film, "From Russia With Love," was sold for 277,250 pounds ($437,206) to an unidentified telephone bidder, Christie's said.

Montana Smith 11-27-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocket Surgeon
First chink in the SW armor!


Lucas soiled his own nest with The Phantom Menace (a.k.a. Jar Jar the Phantom Rapsberry Blower of old Gungan Town).

DaFedora 11-30-2010 06:39 PM

Darth Vader, advertisement tycoon
 
I didn't immediately found a secluded Darth Vader thread, so I thought you guys don't mind me interrupting and saying something. I have quite a good laughs nowadays seeing Darth Vader turn up in (seriously) a lot of ADVERTISEMENT lately. Okay, it's not new that movies and advertisement make funny tongue-in-cheek references to Star Wars in general (anyone ever see that hilarious Friends episode where Ross confesses to Rachel he wants her to depict his childhood fantasy, i.e. the Princess Leia in bikini dress).

Nowadays they bring in the Dark Lord of the Sith to sell a lot of telecom products.

The first one I can remember (but I'm sure they did the same thing earlier) is with Orange back in 2008 (TM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbtlv2cImxM

Somewhat later, he sat next to Heidi Klum to handle customer support for Target:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXWTm...eature=related

And occasionally he even likes to rig a game of golf... and instigates a duel of sticks for Spike TV. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81fwE...eature=related

Now in China, NTT DoCoMo has the Sith Lord being a regular bystander with its customers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB7nM...yer_embedded#!

But, if you ask me (and the fans will not prove me wrong I hope), the top goof for Darth is his clone "Chad Vader". And since Episode III hit the box offices, he's very much in the market to take on a variety of hollywood film remake (?) roles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54Ne...eature=channel (some are lame, others are hilarious really :up: )

Oh yeah and guess what: Yoda's Jedi mind trick doesn't work on Pepsi consumers .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw47u...eature=related

Moedred 11-30-2010 07:35 PM

One of the strangest Star Wars ads was a radio spot for Phantom Menace.
Pizza Hut girl: "I have a walking Sebulba."
Taco Bell dog: "You have a walking Sebulba?"
It always left the deejays wondering if was some sort of venereal disease.

Montana Smith 11-30-2010 11:28 PM

The first 'Darth Vader' advert I remember was before he took up the black suit. Dave Prowse as the Green Cross Code Man:



Nowadays it's R2-D2 and C-3PO who've found work in adverts:

http://www.fidgetwith.com/2010/10/23...d-pc-world-ad/

Dr Bones 12-01-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocket Surgeon
Here's where R2 appears in Star Trek...



I own the film on Blue Ray and can confirm R2 appears as above.
:up:

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Originally Posted by Montana Smith
The first 'Darth Vader' advert I remember was before he took up the black suit. Dave Prowse as the Green Cross Code Man:





Mr Prowse visited my school (among others) as the Green cross Code Man. We made front page in thd local rag! Remember thinking he was huge! We all gasped when he stooped through the doorway and walked in and towered over our headmaster who was 6'2!

Gotta say I am Star Wars fan and collector...just wish Lucas would up his game or hand the reigns over on SW and Indy.

Montana Smith 12-02-2010 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Bones
I own the film on Blue Ray and can confirm R2 appears as above. :up:


And there you have, right from the good doctor's fingertips.

[/QUOTE=Dr Bones]Mr Prowse visited my school (among others) as the Green cross Code Man. We made front page in thd local rag! Remember thinking he was huge! We all gasped when he stooped through the doorway and walked in and towered over our headmaster who was 6'2![/quote]

That's a cool memory.

I'm not sure if I met Dave Prowse or a man in a Vader suit.

It was in 1983 during the Return of the Jedi release. I'd heard that Darth Vader was visiting the Debenhams toy department so I went along to get his autograph.

Well, there was a guy in a real Vader suit signing autographs. I got in the queue and it was really quite intimidating as a kid looking up at that great masked figure as he signed his autograph. He never uttered a word at any time (not having a voice of his own apart from James Earl Jones', of course).

The autograph, however, said 'Darth Vader', which wasa big let down. I wanted it to be Dave Prowse signing as himself.

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Originally Posted by Dr Bones
Gotta say I am Star Wars fan and collector...just wish Lucas would up his game or hand the reigns over on SW and Indy.


I'm of the opinion that Lucas, as masterful as he's been, is currently a liability! The original Star Wars trilogy is still the golden age to me. The films that followed never recaptured that magic or the feeling of immersion in a world I wanted to live in as a kid.

Montana Smith 01-12-2011 12:06 AM

Star Wars Original Trilogy blooper reel
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVDfk...eature=related

Rocket Surgeon 01-12-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Montana Smith

Nice to see Fett going after a worthy bounty...if you're wondering whether or not the ewok got away, don't worrry:

Ewok Holocaust

Montana Smith 01-12-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocket Surgeon
Nice to see Fett going after a worthy bounty...if you're wondering whether or not the ewok got away, don't worrry:

Ewok Holocaust


Great find. That's on par with your 1950s Atom Bomb evaluations.


If you go down to the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the woods today
You'd better go in disguise.

For every Ewok that ever there was
Will gather there for certain, because
Today's the day the Ewoks have their picnic.

Every Ewok who's been good
Is sure of a treat today.
There's lots of marvelous humans to eat
And wonderful games to play.

Beneath the trees where nobody sees
They'll hide and seek as long as they please
'Cause that's the way the Ewoks have their picnic.

If you go down to the woods today
You'd better not go alone
It's lovely down in the woods today
But safer to stay at home.

...

See them gaily gad about
They love to play and shout;
They never have any care;

At six o'clock the Bounty Hunters,
Will take them home as slaves,
Because they're damned useful little Ewoks.

Rocket Surgeon 02-05-2011 08:28 AM

"Documentary": Star Wars Begins Part 1 of 14
 

Dr. Gonzo 03-03-2011 04:37 PM

Episode I 3D release date
 
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48724

Montana Smith 03-03-2011 04:46 PM

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Jar Jar comin' at ya live! :sick:

kongisking 03-04-2011 10:29 AM

I think we just need to accept the fact that the prequels are Lucas's ideal version of the backstory, and believe it or not, some people appreciate the prequels. So let them have their fun come 2012, and don't make them feel any worse about loving films that are considered horrid by smug fanboys than they have to be.

Rocket Surgeon 03-04-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kongisking
I think we just need to accept the fact that the prequels are Lucas's ideal version of the backstory, and believe it or not, some people appreciate the prequels. So let them have their fun come 2012, and don't make them feel any worse about loving films that are considered horrid by smug fanboys than they have to be.


I don't mind the idea of a backstory...the original had a backstory, the sequel had a backstory. The story they filmed was superior. Broader strokes and interpretable.

The story they told in the prequels was lacking...in more ways than one. The detail was cumbersome and underdeveloped.


No one's stopping anybody's fun, but it's odd you would insult the people who find fault with THE FILMS.

If you're suing for peace.

Montana Smith 03-04-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocket Surgeon
I don't mind the idea of a backstory...the original had a backstory, the sequel had a backstory. The story they filmed was superior. Broader strokes and interpretable.


The back story was at first shrouded in mystery, and it was intriguing when 'The Clone Wars' was mentioned.

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The story they told in the prequels was lacking...in more ways than one. The detail was cumbersome and underdeveloped.


Well said. What was once intriguing became laid bare and dull. It was no longer those 'borad strokes' of space opera, but the minutiae of political in-fighting and spin: a very contemporary assault on politics.

It burned away the wonder and the intrigue. It almost killed the universe. Brian Daley's Han Solo novels were the prequels I longed for: tales of wild and lawless space, of gunfighters, starships, visits to strange worlds.

When TPM came out it was clear that Lucas no longer inhabited the universe that I was brought up with. That was a sad moment, and since then he hasn't done anything much to improve that situation.

Getting 'sweet little Annie' into the black Vader armour was a very clumsy operation.

Another problem was that Lucas made the past even more futuristic-looking than the 'present'. Clunky X-Wings were among the best fighters of their day, yet many years before there were sleak-looking Nabbo Starfighters. If Lucas had been true to his universe, and not pandering to a new audience, he would have made the past clunkier.

The only thing truly clunky about the prequels was ther awful dialogue and delivery, and the so-called comic elements. (Oh, and the battle droids, they were clunky, which was okay, but they were also more camp than C-3PO).

kongisking 03-05-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Montana Smith
The back story was at first shrouded in mystery, and it was intriguing when 'The Clone Wars' was mentioned.



Well said. What was once intriguing became laid bare and dull. It was no longer those 'borad strokes' of space opera, but the minutiae of political in-fighting and spin: a very contemporary assault on politics.

It burned away the wonder and the intrigue. It almost killed the universe. Brian Daley's Han Solo novels were the prequels I longed for: tales of wild and lawless space, of gunfighters, starships, visits to strange worlds.

When TPM came out it was clear that Lucas no longer inhabited the universe that I was brought up with. That was a sad moment, and since then he hasn't done anything much to improve that situation.

Getting 'sweet little Annie' into the black Vader armour was a very clumsy operation.

Another problem was that Lucas made the past even more futuristic-looking than the 'present'. Clunky X-Wings were among the best fighters of their day, yet many years before there were sleak-looking Nabbo Starfighters. If Lucas had been true to his universe, and not pandering to a new audience, he would have made the past clunkier.

The only thing truly clunky about the prequels was ther awful dialogue and delivery, and the so-called comic elements. (Oh, and the battle droids, they were clunky, which was okay, but they were also more camp than C-3PO).


All true arguments, yes. But I guess I've just decided to give up complaining and accept what we were eventually handed by Uncle George.

The only thing that worked unreservedly in the prequels was the lightsaber combat. Truly amazing choreography by Nick Gillard. It was so cool, the duels in the OT looked incredibly tame and bland in comparison.

WillKill4Food 03-05-2011 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Montana Smith
Well said. What was once intriguing became laid bare and dull. It was no longer those 'borad strokes' of space opera, but the minutiae of political in-fighting and spin: a very contemporary assault on politics.

I definitely disagree with this. I'm no fan of the prequels, but my favorite line from all the Star Wars saga comes from Episode III:

Padme: "So this is how Liberty dies… with thunderous applause."

The evolution of the Empire was decently handled, in my opinion.

Dr Bones 03-05-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kongisking
The only thing that worked unreservedly in the prequels was the lightsaber combat. Truly amazing choreography by Nick Gillard. It was so cool, the duels in the OT looked incredibly tame and bland in comparison.


Whilst I agree the OT lightaber battles look simple and not what one would expect from the jedi/sith now, at the time they worked well. We didn't know what a jedi/sith was back in 77.

The prequels are impressive from a choreography pov but that's just it. I was impressed at the time but when I watch them now they look ludicrously overstaged. Too much show boating takes away the realism of the fights.

Tell me which feels more real and has more emotion, an enraged Luke beating down then cutting off Vader's hand in ROTJ or Anakin prancing about doing behind the back spins with Obi Wan on floating lava droid things?

This is one reaosn I personally feel the prequels are ageing faster than the original trilogy.

Lucas made me laugh when he "explained" that the prequels lightsaber battles were better because they were jedi in their peak and the OT were older and weaker. :confused: Just admit you reinvented the series and now we have better fight choreographers and a bigger budget to try to impress today's audience.:rolleyes:

Rocket Surgeon 03-05-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WillKill4Food
I definitely disagree with this. I'm no fan of the prequels, but my favorite line from all the Star Wars saga comes from Episode III:

Padme: "So this is how Liberty dies… with thunderous applause."

The evolution of the Empire was decently handled, in my opinion.


Funny, that's one of the lines I HATE the most!:hat:

Any time I hear it I can't help but think she was the stupid ignoramous that opened the door for the empire by voting no confidence.

Her sense of irony doesn't apply to herself...Oi!:rolleyes:

Clumsy writing clumsy "acting."

Regarding Lightsaber battles, NOTHING surpasses the Luke/Vader duel on Bespin.

Phantom Menace was plagued with moments like Obi Wan waiting to strike and the lame way he got caught between locks.

Please.:down:


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