The Cruelty of Mankind
 

i just saw this terrible photo online of a dog that had flesh torn off of it and scratches and bruises. apparently that poor dog was tied to the back of a car and dragged. :sick: who would do such things?? its so horrible!! i mean, do people like that find it funny to watch a poor animal get dragged on the concrete? think its amusing?? i LOATHE people that do that kinda stuff. i used to know 2 people who would do something like that and find it funny. in fact, they used to threaten me with knives and pellet guns all the time. it really PISSES ME OFF to no end to think about the inhumanity of some people. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: why would someone find this funny? it also makes me so depressed for that poor dog....:( i wish i could stop people like them. what im about to say may sound funny, but i really wish i was the Ghost Rider from Marvel comics. he searches for people like that and sends them to hell personally. i just don't understand the cruelty of mankind....

i posted this because 1) i had to let it off my chest and 2) i just want to know your thoughts on this topic. what do you all think?

It's terrible, sick and depressing. :mad:

There's no denying that.

On a much needed lighter note, I blame these cases on a simple misunderstanding:

"We named the dog Indiana."



Due to such inhumane copycat actions, Lucas and Spielberg are now much more aware of the impact of their creations upon society.

They presumed this was a safe alternative:



However, acts of cruelty will persist, because there are always members of society who get a kick out of it:






Now go grab your Ghost Rider costume, cos we have crimes that need attending to. :whip:

hahahahaha thats awesome that definitely cheered me up. :up: aint nothing like an Indy reference to make an Indyfan happy, yeah? lol

Funny, me and a buddy just had a discussion about this. I had a friend who did stuff like that and thought it was funny. He did exactly what you mentioned, dragging an animal behind his truck, but it was a cat. He's also taken dogs and cats into the woods and shot them with his 22. AND stirred up a hive of bees and tossed a poor lil puppy in there until it died.
People are sick, man. He loved it.

That is so damnable! I hate how people mistreat and abuse animals which are defenseless against the cruelty and brutality of man. I saw on the news where a sick minded freak took two dogs from his neighbors house and dragged them all over the road, shot them and then beat them and then strangled them. It really angered and disturbed the populous in the North Georgia region.

As if that were not enough some of the teenagers in the Atlanta area went and beat up an elderly man and nearly killed him but some other people intervened and stopped them before the man died and this happened the same week as the incident above. I think the teens reason for beating the man was because they simply didn't like his truck.

This is all very sad and I wish that more people would do something constructive and good with their lives.

Ah, most people are just jackasses now. No one needs a reason to hurt an animal or another person. At least a halfway decent reason anymore. Hell if you just look at the wrong person now they have a tendency to pop off and get pissed. At least I've seen that before. Just a casual glance over your shoulder and someone thinks you're staring at them and threatens to beat the hell outa ya. Just people now.
But I still believe that for however many dicks there are out there there's the same amount of decent people. Good deeds don't get put on the news, only bad things, so I kinda think that because of that people form the opinion that there's no one good anymore.

for sure man. its so disgraceful. if only the good people in this world would not be so kind to the bad people. like, in my opinion, i dont understand why we let criminals off so easily. i believe that if you have committed an act of, say, murder or abuse, and we have undeniable proof that you did it, why waste time on bringing this person to trial? send his ass to jail. or, if he's really that bad, such as people who would do these things to animals or people, give them the death sentence. may be a little radical, perhaps, but it would make the world a better safer place, would it not??

Where's this outrage for how we treat humans?

Animal cruelty may be a first sign of a psychopathic condition. If left untreated, as it usually is, they grow up to leave a trail of human wreckage. I believe many of the social conditions in which many are suffering are the ongoing consequence of the action of psychopathic people. What else could explain it?

I reverse engineer it. To me, it's the last of atrocities. Not the precursor. When value for ones own species is lost...what's left?

Strangely, there is the situation where one can totally devalue fellow human beings and still hold animal life in higher esteem. I'm not saying it should be one way or the other, but I think the human mind is capable of any absurdity.

While every injustice is wrong, some crimes seem more heinous when committed against a defenceless or trusting target. It's an assault on innocence. It applies to animals (the kind that aren't trying to kill you) as well as babies and young children. These are also easy targets in which the perpetrator can gain a sense of power and domination.

Cruelty against animals - the causing of needless suffering - creates in those who are horrified by the thought of it, the sense that the sadist is outside of normal society, with no justification for their crime, and as such is a danger to humans as well. In turn it's no surprise that those who commit crimes against children often get rough justice from the hardened criminals they share prison with.

I saw a survey in USA Today this week asking people, if they were to volunteer their time for something, what would it be? "doing something for animals" beat out "helping sick children" and "helping the homeless."

Now that's sick, and just plain wrong.

That might be because animals seem more vulnerable. Maybe animal problems are more visible depending on the circles people move in? Recently when watching tv (I rarely do) I saw the news of the Somalian drought crisis and my first thought was to go there and help in whatever way I can. I didn't go and I found a job instead. It has struck me lately how I don't do anything to help the less fortunate even though I feel that compulsion from time to time.

Anything seems more vulnerable when you put them in cages, film them in slo-mo, and play Sarah McLachlan's Angel. ;)

Yes, there is a line that is somethimes crossed that we need to step in for animal welfare. But that line must be always be clearly defined and approached with caution: for as many people out there that would harm an animal for fun, there are just as many sickos on the animal rights front that are a hair away from the label of "terrorist."

Well, good ole Homo Sapiens happens to be the most overpopulated species on this rock and on the grand scale of things, can take losing a handful of specimens better than well.

So maybe they're just being practical?

That's the brutal truth. We're the only species on earth capable of mucking it up for every other species.

I find this retarded and sickening.
You have to be one sick person to choose an animal over a child. I don't give a damn what others say on the matter.
If you'd help a sick dog over a dying child, you have problems.

I guess it would be okay if you went and offed yourself for the betterment of the other species, eh Finn? Or better yet, let one of your close loved one's perish, and then come back and spout that crap you typed.

I don't think Finn meant it that practically. Philosphically he's correct, but practically there wouldn't be many of us (hopefully) who would favour the animal over the child.

In bald philosphical terms, the child has more potential than the animal, but over-population at the expense of environment, resources and the natural order of fauna would be the end of everything.

It might be the stuff of apocalyptic science fiction, but we are the only species capable of letting it happen, or preventing it.

When you look at your loved ones it is hard to rationalize the fact that essentially we are still just part of a natural order, albeit now at the top of the food chain.

Call it what you will, but I would choose the life of a human over that of an animal any day. Don't get me wrong, I do value animals and nature, but they just don't mean more to me than human life.
I may get bashed for this, but I know that you are an Atheist and I respect that and have nothing against that. But, I'm not an Atheist, and I do believe human life is higher than that of an animal.
Yes, we can prevent the extinction of certain species, and we should. But, to me the lives of human-beings are more important.

But, I fear that by me saying these things is going to lead me to be bashed here at The Raven. Which is a real shame.

If man hadn't advanced to a point, small rodents and their disease carrying parasites would beg to differ

I agree with you. Of course I value humans above animals (though the most evil of humans don't deserve that respect). It's not about suddenly killing off humans to re-balance the world, but about looking ahead at preventative measures. To stop over-population before it's beyond our control.

To do that we have to look at everything on the earth, and realize that we're part of a natural order. We're at the top so it's our responsibility to protect the things that can't protect themselves - the flora and the fauna. But that doesn't mean that we don't also need to control the population of animals when they breed out of control due to lack of predators.




Humans might have gone, but the dogs and cats would have grown fatter and more plentiful!

I agree with you 100%, Montana. It is our duty to see about over-population, and conserving and protecting the environment and protecting nature and wildlife.
But, the way Finn put it left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if he was jesting or trying to be a wise-ass, but it was uncalled for to even imply that it's okay to lose a few 'specimens' of the human-race.
He knew the previous poster said 'sick kids'.

That rings close to my heart. I had a niece who was dying of cancer when she was five (and I have two small kids of my own now). She survived it, but his post insulted me, and I thought it was tasteless.
I'm not one to post about things like this on here, but that was too much.

I think it's important to value all life and by saying so I am a hypocrite in that I am not vegetarian. Human life should be prioritised over animal life if need be, but the problem with overpopulation is not just about sheer numbers. It's also about the way we consume the resources of the planet. Strangely, the 'green' approach, which one might assume is inherently compassionate, can sometimes breed a consideration for approaches like culling.

But I don't think Finn meant his statement to be supporting eugenics or genocide or the like. His statements on face value seem bald, but he needs to elaborate as I am sure he does not condone forced population reduction.

Okay, I admit that might have sounded a bit callous and true, I wasn't being dead serious. While I'm a huge proponent of reduction of birth by preventive measures (especially on areas that do suffer from too much humans on too small a space) and other gentler means of controlling our numbers, I don't think I'd ever actually propose any kind of forced population control by any means necessary.

But then again, it all boils down to perspective. Even the above statement might sound a bit sick to someone, but it's got nothing running on the sickness of the Mother Nature. If she decides there's too much of us for her to sustain, she's going to use her own means to reduce our numbers back to tolerable levels. Famine, disease, locusts, etc. Her ways... there's nothing humane about them. And the stinger? More we fight her, more bigger guns she will bring out to play, meaning by every round, there will be less and less of us once she's going to play her winning card.

So compared to that, say, biting a bullet for example suddenly doesn't sound like a bad alternative at all.