The Search for Noah's Ark

Morning Bell

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It's always been a dream of mine to participate in an expedition like that. Hopefully some interesting stuff will turn up.
 

adventure_al

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That 'price' guy doesn't convince me in the slightest. I'm not saying there is not a possibility of an 'ark' being discovered but he does come over as a bit of fanatic.
 

Lance Quazar

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Wow. How exciting.

In a related story, I'll be traveling to Greenland to search for Santa's workshop and the Fortress of Solitude.
 

No Ticket

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They found the spot, Price said, but it now is covered by an estimated 60-foot-deep pile of boulders. Price believes the landslide may have resulted from attacks against Kurdish rebels on the mountain, or perhaps from explosives that were set off to cover up the ark.

Well of course.
 

indyt

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Lance Quazar said:
Wow. How exciting.

In a related story, I'll be traveling to Greenland to search for Santa's workshop and the Fortress of Solitude.

Hope you find it:rolleyes:

I know alot of you guys dont believe in the Bible and its stories. But cant we be civil, discuss things and enjoy each others company.
 

Junior Jones

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No Ticket said:
They found the spot, Price said, but it now is covered by an estimated 60-foot-deep pile of boulders. Price believes the landslide may have resulted from attacks against Kurdish rebels on the mountain, or perhaps from explosives that were set off to cover up the ark.

Well of course.

Didn't Indiana Jones and the Genesis Deluge end with a landslide or something covering up the remains of the ark?
 

DoomTown

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Junior Jones said:
Didn't Indiana Jones and the Genesis Deluge end with a landslide or something covering up the remains of the ark?


Yes thats how it ends,I think Turkish Bandits covered it up or something.I thought that "Genesis Deluge" was one of the better Indy novels...
 

Dr Bones

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Lance Quazar said:
Wow. How exciting.

In a related story, I'll be traveling to Greenland to search for Santa's workshop and the Fortress of Solitude.


To be honest that was pretty close to my initial thoughts...:eek:

However, that said...wouldn't it be great if they did find Noah's ark?!

Imagine! The subsequent clamour for the grail and the ark of the covenent would be pretty exciting!

Although many claim to have found the ark of the covenent...one recent "scholar" claims it was more like a drum (than made from wood covered in gold as represented in the bible or Indiana Jones etc) and a copy is in a South African museum as the original perished.
 

Indy's brother

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As fantastic as it would be for someone to actually find the thing, I have to say that the likelihood of it happening truly fits the definition of the word "fantastic".

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Which is not to say that it doesn't exist, I just think that if Noah's famous vessel did in fact exist at one point, and was somewhere on Mt. Ararat, it should have been discovered there by now. It's interesting to be sure, but after all the hoopla over the years, including the dubious "Ararat Anomaly", I would need some real convincing. There have been more than a couple of quasi-archeologists who have made a career of generating this kind of hype over Noah's Ark. A prime example of this would be embodied in the work of Ron Wyatt. His claims regarding his discoveries of other biblical relics are doubtful at best.

Time will tell, though, and I would love to be proved wrong. Another area of interest is the Durupinar site, if anyone would like to check out an alternative location. David Fasold, an on again off again colleague of Wyatt's, had wrestled with the validity of this site until seemingly convincing himself on his deathbed:
During the 1990s, Fasold was caught between three opposing camps that derided his interest in the site. On one side were orthodox creationists who believed the ark could only lay on Mt. Ararat; the second camp was comprised of Wyatt and others who continued their research and reported significant discoveries; the third camp included skeptical geologists and biblical minimalists who called the site a hoax.[11] After a few scientific expeditions to the Durupınar site that included drillings and excavation in the 1990s, Fasold began to have doubts that the Durupınar formation was Noah's ark. He visited the site with geologist Ian Plimer in September 1994, and in a subsequent interview noted his change of mind saying "I believe this may be the oldest running hoax in history. I think we have found what the ancients said was the Ark, but this structure is not Noah's Ark."[12] At other times he claimed that the site was only what the ancients believed was Ziusudra's 'ark of reeds'.[13] In 1996 Fasold coauthored a paper with geologist Lorence Collins entitled "Bogus 'Noah's Ark' from Turkey Exposed as a Common Geologic Structure" that concluded the boat-shaped formation was a curious upswelling of mud that happened to look like a boat.[14] In April 1997 during his testimony in an Australian court case Fasold repudiated his belief in the Ark, and stated that he regarded the claim as "absolute BS".[15][16][17]
Creationist Ark researchers such as Don Patten, David Allen Deal[7] and Australian friend and biographer June Dawes reported that before his 1998 death Fasold again claimed the Durupınar site to be the location of the ark. Dawes wrote:
He [Fasold] kept repeating that no matter what the experts said, there was too much going for the [Durupınar] site for it to be dismissed. He remained convinced it was the fossilized remains of Noah's Ark.[18]
Source.

Of the millions of examples I could have posted, I chose this one because it seems to truly embody the tortured past this subject has weathered. The possibility of the Ark being found is a dream that compels many. The motivations are varied, but the outcome of the Ark itself has always remained the same--undiscovered. Aside from one passage in the bible ("the ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat") no one has ever produced compelling evidence that the Ark is on Mt. Ararat.

Richard Bright, who will be accompanying Randall Price on this expedition, has written several books about his research and travels regarding the ark. He's been to Ararat so many times looking for the thing that one has to wonder: If he is so knowledgeable and convinced of it's whereabouts, why can't he just produce the thing already?

Regarding Randall Price himself, his ministry/webpage/and books seem to be centered around the more theatrical aspects of the Christian bible.

Now I'm not saying that this guy or his partner are huxters, I think that they may truly believe in their latest venture. I am just not convinced that we are going to glean anything new from their upcoming expedition aside from a new book about what they didn't find. These guys are not the first of their kind. Look up Dr. Friedrich Parrot, James Bryce, James Irwin, Daniel McGivern, Ahmet Ali Arslan, Bob Cornuke, Georgie Hagopian, Ed Davis, David Duckworth, Fernand Navarra, and David Balsiger. It may be unfair to lump Price and Bright in with all of their predecessors, but I'm just trying to make the point that this is nothing new, and not to get your hopes up too high. Searching for Noah's Ark has been a successful and popular enterprise among bored rich people, attention hounds, legitimate academics, self proclaimed academics, and outright liars (look up George Jammal) for over a century. Just like the Lochness Monster.

Again, I would truly love to be proven wrong this time, and I would be happy to let anyone rub this post in my face as a result. I just don't think it is going to happen.
 
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RedeemedChild

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I'm very excited about this Noah's Ark expedition.

As a Bible believing Christian this thrill's my imagination. Yet, I'm not going to get my hopes up to high because after all these many years it'll be a miracle if the Ark of Noah is ever found. Simply stop and think about all the many years it has been since the Ark landed on Mount Arat and there are a billion things that could have happened to to it by now beside natural erosion and weathering. People could have taken the timbers, tar and pitch to use for construction of a small home in which to inhabit after the flood and then there are thieves and all kinds of other things that could taken place.

Yet I'm sure National Geographic will run a special regarding Noah's Ark and the Great Biblical Deluge.
 

The Tingler

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RedeemedChild said:
Simply stop and think about all the many years it has been since the Ark landed on Mount Arat and there are a billion things that could have happened to to it by now beside natural erosion and weathering. People could have taken the timbers, tar and pitch to use for construction of a small home in which to inhabit after the flood and then there are thieves and all kinds of other things that could taken place.
Exactly. The Ark was made of wood, not gold or bone. After several thousand years resting on a mountain, I doubt there would be much remaining.
 

indyt

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RedeemedChild said:
I'm very excited about this Noah's Ark expedition.

As a Bible believing Christian this thrill's my imagination. Yet, I'm not going to get my hopes up to high because after all these many years it'll be a miracle if the Ark of Noah is ever found. Simply stop and think about all the many years it has been since the Ark landed on Mount Arat and there are a billion things that could have happened to to it by now beside natural erosion and weathering. People could have taken the timbers, tar and pitch to use for construction of a small home in which to inhabit after the flood and then there are thieves and all kinds of other things that could taken place.

Yet I'm sure National Geographic will run a special regarding Noah's Ark and the Great Biblical Deluge.

Yes, RC, but I beleive before the return of Christ, the ark will be found. God can have if preserved for all those years if he wants it to be. Scientifically, the wood can be preserved because of the cold.
 

RedeemedChild

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indyt I agree with what you said about God having the ability to preserve the ark if is His desire to do so. I also agree with what you said regarding the "cold", however humanly speaking there is very little chance that Noah's Ark is still in tact. If anything is found at all it will probably be very disappointing as there are as I've said before there are a million things that could have happened to the Ark over the years.
 

Pale Horse

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Has Noah's Ark Been Found...

FOXNews.com

The remains of Noah's Ark have been discovered 13,000 feet up a Turkish mountain -- according to a sensational claim by evangelical explorers. A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers say wooden remains they have discovered on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey are the remains of Noah's Ark.

The group claims that carbon dating proves the relics are 4,800 years old, meaning they date to around the same time the ark was said to be afloat. Mt. Ararat has long been suspected as the final resting place of the craft by evangelicals and literalists hoping to validate biblical stories....(more)

So, if it's legit, this should fuel the global warming atheists, yes? If it's not, then carbon dating can be called into question...

Any true scientists still posting here, that can shed some light on this sensational journalism? I know many of the topic's herein have been discussed in similar fashion, but this is a new story....
 

Stoo

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Pale Horse said:
Any true scientists still posting here, that can shed some light on this sensational journalism? I know many of the topic's herein have been discussed in similar fashion, but this is a new story....
Paley, this report may be new but the "story" is not. Didn't you see the film back in '76?:confused: In Search of Noah's Ark
 
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