Pale Horse said:
I like your style, test and retest.
I will pick two things to discuss with you, old wise one.
First, I applaud your insight concering the reading between the lines of the Bible. I don't agree with it. People do it all the time. But one thing that is very important to remember is that the Old testament was translated from the Hebrew language, which is very similar to the East Asian languages in that it deals with pictures and symbols. It differs from the New testament language which is Greek. It is far more structured on logic and concrete images.
Know that will help a bit when it comes to understanding how the Bible is translated. But that doesn't mean you can read what wasn't there. Noah and his family was commissioned by God to build the ark. The reason given is because he was the only man righteous on the Earth.
Why would unrighteous men sentanced to death help a righteous one? What is written is easy enough to understand on a very literal level.
The Second part will take a bit more from you. It asks that A) You believe in the Fall of man (to the point of discussion) B) that the Earth's axis tilted to the current 22 degree, and C) that the effects of sin and the commission of God to Abraham that the number of a mans days be 120 years. If you won't allow any of these premises into the arguement, I won't be able to go further with my discussion....
Me (Tennessee):
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure who this is addressed to.
I will repost the origional posters above the messages:
OldawanKenobi said:
I tried the dr.dino link,but it wasn't working for me(?)Thanks for posting it,DS.I would like to check that site out.
Me (Tennessee):
Try
www.drdino.com
Doc Savage said:
'Just because it was recorded first by others doesn't mean it was told first by others'
Oldawan said:
If this were a philosophy or literature class,I would agree with you.However,since this is dealing with the science of archaeology,we have to go by the evidence that we have.Assumptions based on that evidence may be reasonable,but assumptions based on 'what if' are little more than guesswork,unless new evidence is found.
Me (Tennessee):
'This indicates that Noah might have had more than 75 years to build, and prepare the Ark, and the Bible says nowhere that he did not hire help. (i.e. anyone will work for money)'
Oldawan:
Nor does it say that he did.If we are going to take the Bible as a historical document,then we have to take it literally,or not at all.From the material,we have to assume that he had no help(beyond his family).
Doc Savage:
By the Biblical account, they lived a lot longer in those days.
Me (Tennessee):
The Bible plainly states how long major people lived, and it starts at about 500 to 900 years. Right after the flood, life spans dropped to about 100 to 150 years. Probably because of different atmospheric conditions after the flood, although this is theory.
Oldawan:
The general tendency is for life expectancy to improve over time,so by that,the descendants of Noah(i.e.,you and I)should be able to outlive him by a number of years.Why don't we?
Me (Tennessee):
I have done a search on the entire Epic of Gilgamesh, and have not found Barque...
Oldawan:
I have the Penguin Classics version,page 108.
Me (Tennessee):
Thank you.
Me (Tennessee):
As Kent Hovind would say...all you would need are babies for transporting in the Ark
Oldawan:
I'm assuming that both you and Hovind are qualified zoologists?Just out of curiosity,were(are)any of the individuals consulted in PaleHorse's post qualified zoologists?Or naval engineers for that matter?
Me (Tennessee):
I'm not. Kent was a science teacher before he started the seminar tours. You can probably e-mail him, and he can give you references about this, and I'm not sure about APaleHorse.