Forbidden Eye said:That is a little shocking to hear from you, because in that case, the average joe is one that people should put emphasis on. There are a lot of people who bought tickets and enjoyed Transformers 2. Should Spielberg(or anybody for that matter) be concerned if those people don't happen to like their work?
I can see where you were coming from if film critics were in question(most of which actually liked Kingdom), but even then, if one is a true artist, shouldn't he make work that he wants to make as oppose to what others want him to make? After all, you can't literally please everyone.
I called it not exciting! I stand by that.Cole said:That's fine, but you also gave the impression that the existing scene is inferior and subpar.
Yes you are quite often.Cole said:And I'm letting you know how I feel about that.
Well I'll also stand by my posts. If you care to review them, I think I encouraged you to explain yourself many times and fought fire with fire.Cole said:Plus, given how you've acted and treated me ever since I started posting on these boards, I just plain don't like you.
Cole said:That's fine, but you also gave the impression that the existing scene is inferior and subpar. And I'm letting you know how I feel about that. Plus, given how you've acted and treated me ever since I started posting on these boards, I just plain don't like you.
You're kind of barging into something that didn't involve you. He acts like a jerk to me, that's why I don't like him...........pretty clearly I already said this.ronicle said:"I just plain don't like you."? That's an awfully childish thing to say.. And why don't you like him?? Just because he thinks after he watches a movie? You don't have to be a director to be able to think of something that would look and feel really cool on screen...I think of all kinds of things I would have liked to see in certain movies.. Rocket's ones of the coolest guys here, and I like hearing his ideas
And what is wrong with "arguing the technicalities of filmmaking"? Did you know some of the best directors never even went to film school? Of course a director can't please everyone, and he has every right to make a film how he wants to see it.. but there's nothing wrong with discussing ways that certain scenes could have looked even better... I like Steven Spielberg, one of my favorite directors.. But that's not gonna stop me from discussing how I might have done a scene from one of his movies differently.
Cole said:When you start ripping apart things scene-by-scene, and acting like you could've done such a better job than the "subpar" work that was done, and then you wanna make a mountain out of a molehill.........ya, that spells huge moron in my book.
Rocket Surgeon said:That is a great question! Spielberg went so far as to say who he's making this film for, and it wasn't for him or for art.
ronicle said:And what is wrong with "arguing the technicalities of filmmaking"? Did you know some of the best directors never even went to film school? Of course a director can't please everyone, and he has every right to make a film how he wants to see it.. but there's nothing wrong with discussing ways that certain scenes could have looked even better... I like Steven Spielberg, one of my favorite directors.. But that's not gonna stop me from discussing how I might have done a scene from one of his movies differently.
Darth Vile said:I wouldn't necessarily rush to believe everything Spielberg says. I mean, he's got better things to do than waste 18 months of his life making a movie, just because he believes he owes something to an anonymous group of people. If he said he'd made it to shut Harrison up, I'd believe that... but for the fans? "C'mon".
Darth Vile said:it sometimes becomes a tad boring and predictable
lol well done.James said:"Nobody ever wins a message board fight."
-Patrick Swayze
Darth Vile said:I don?t think there is anything wrong with critiquing a movie, music, and fine art etc? in fact (like most here I?m sure), I?d encourage it. But we do live in a world where everyone seems to be an armchair critic/pundit (not aimed at anyone here), and it sometimes becomes a tad boring and predictable when, instead of celebrating something (or just ignoring that which offends), we just sit on our backsides complaining about it. Saying that, KOTCS isn?t, and shouldn?t be immune to such critiques? it?s the newest Indy movie? so it?s fair game I suppose.
ronicle said:I wouldn't say fair game, it could be any movie, I'm just saying in general that there's nothing wrong thinking of ways a movie could have been better. I've even thought to myself of how I would have liked to see certain scenes in Gone with the Wind shot with a different angle. I really liked Rocket's idea, I think it would have made the sled scene a lot cooler.
Even though it didn't come close to Raiders I still love kotcs, but I could also come up with a list of what I would have changed about it I don't like it when kocts is trashed either! But there's definitely a HUGE difference between nitpicking and trashing.. I've heard plenty of kotcs trashing on this board and that's not what I saw saw Rocket doing..
Rocket Surgeon said:...and you shouldn't rush to believe it. It seems to me he did it for the money, after all, everything he says about the development of the script points to him not wanting to be there. Especially when he runs down the litany of alien movies.
James said:Spielberg stopped worrying about money a long time ago. He made the film because Lucas and Ford wanted to do another one.