metalinvader
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So,Anyone else see Star Wars in concert besides me?
metalinvader said:So,Anyone else see Star Wars in concert besides me?
I was at the Boston show and it was freakin' INCREDIBLE.Absolutely breathtaking to hear those tracks live. My seats where probably 100 yards or so from the stage they were perfect for such an event,Price...I think I paid about $160 for the two tickets.Well worth it.Rocket Surgeon said:Mitch Hallock was there...money made it impossible for me. Where did you see it? Where were your seats and how much, (if you don't mind)?
metalinvader said:I was at the Boston show and it was freakin' INCREDIBLE.Absolutely breathtaking to hear those tracks live. My seats where probably 100 yards or so from the stage they were perfect for such an event,Price...I think I paid about $160 for the two tickets.Well worth it.
Not sure if you've seen it or not but in the 'Ugly mugs of Raveners'' thread,There is a picture of me with the Han in Carbonite display from the show.I've got a few more pics from the show if anyone cares to see them.
Rocket Surgeon said:I got to see John Williams conduct the New York Philharmonic at Avery Fischer Hall. Martin Scorsese and Steve Spielberg were hosts. The music in the first half was Bernard Herrmann scores, and the second half John Williams/Steven Spielberg colaborations. One of the encores was Star Wars.
Unfortunately no Raiders March, but the did an extended "lession" in film music using the Last Crusade prologue set to the film. It was very cool.
It was everything you could have wanted, (virtually)from a wide variety of films. I got the songlist/schedule from an usher and the photos are posted on the Indy Cast flickr page. Screw it, here's a bit:avidfilmbuff said:Martin Scorsese, Steven Spielberg, and John Williams in the same room? I'm so jealous of you at the moment Rocket Surgeon.
Lance Quazar said:The Empire puppet looked amazing then and still looks amazing today.
Timeless. And extraordinary.
Yoda has never been used to as great effect. Not even close.
Rocket Surgeon said:While Han Solo goes in search of his father-in-law who has political ties with Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker heads to the Bog Planet where he meets a Jedi named Minch, who teaches him the ways of the force.
http://www.mypdfscripts.com/screenp...-the-empire-strikes-back-leigh-brackett-draft
NOT what I meant when I said take care of the princess!
Lance Quazar said:Is this for real? Has it been verified or authenticated or whatever...?
Rocket Surgeon said:
To my discerning eye, tell-tale signs suggest that this is nothing more than well done fan-wankery and a fake.Lance Quazar said:Is this for real? Has it been verified or authenticated or whatever...?
There was a bittersweet tinge to Kurtz?s voice, and it?s no surprise. This year is the 30th anniversary of ?The Empire Strikes Back,? the ?Star Wars? sequel that many fans consider the pinnacle moment in a franchise that has pulled in $16 billion in box office and merchandising. But 1980 was also the year that Kurtz and Lucas realized the Jedi universe wasn?t big enough for the both of them.
?I could see where things were headed,? Kurtz said. ?The toy business began to drive the [Lucasfilm] empire. It?s a shame. They make three times as much on toys as they do on films. It?s natural to make decisions that protect the toy business, but that?s not the best thing for making quality films.?
He added: ?The first film and ?Empire? were about story and character, but I could see that George?s priorities were changing.?
This weekend, Kurtz steps back into the ?Star Wars? galaxy as a special guest at Star Wars Celebration V, a massive convention in Orlando, Fla., organized by Lucasfilm and expected to draw thousands of fans who will come to buy collectibles, attend panels, get cast-member autographs or even visit the event?s themed tattoo parlor or wedding chapel.
Kurtz?s presence speaks to his vital role in the franchise?s history ? he is, for instance, the one who came up with the title for ?The Empire Strikes Back? ? but the Lucasfilm leadership is already fretting about the Jedi galaxy expatriate?s appearance. They may have good reason; during a recent visit to Los Angeles, the filmmaker, who just turned 70, showed a willingness to speak out against the priorities of an old partner.
?The emphasis on the toys, it?s like the cart driving the horse,? Kurtz said. ?If it wasn?t for that the films would be done for their own merits. The creative team wouldn?t be looking over their shoulder all the time.?
No fan of conflict, Kurtz has remained relatively quiet through the years but over coffee on a sunny Southern California afternoon he spoke at length about his lightsaber days.
Philippe said the departure of Kurtz was a major moment in ?Star Wars? history and deeply unsettling to all involved. ?The cast and crew were crushed when George and Gary went their separate ways,? said Philippe, who added that Mark Hamill, who portrayed Luke Skywalker, later explained it in broken-family terminology. ?He said it was like mom and dad getting a divorce. They were both equally loved and respected on the set.?
For Kurtz, the popular notion that ?Star Wars? was always planned as a multi-film epic is laughable. He says that he and Lucas, both USC film school grads who met through mutual friend Francis Ford Coppola in the late 1960s, first sought to do a simple adaptation of ?Flash Gordon,? the comic-strip hero who had been featured in movie serials that both filmmakers found charming.
?We tried to buy the rights to ?Flash Gordon? from King Features but the deal would have been prohibitive,? Kurtz said. ?They wanted too much money, too much control, so starting over and creating from scratch was the answer.?
Lucas came up with a sprawling treatment that pulled from ?Flash Gordon,? Arthurian legend, ?The Hidden Fortress? and other influences. The document would have required a five-hour film but there was a middle portion that could be carved out as a stand-alone movie. Kurtz championed the project in pitch meetings with studios and worked intensely on casting, scouting locations and finding a way to create a believable alien universe on a tight budget.
?Our plan was to do ?Star Wars? and then make ?Apocalypse Now? and do a black comedy in the vein of ?M*A*S*H*,?" Kurtz said. ?Fox insisted on a sequel or maybe two [to ?Star Wars?]. Francis [Ford Coppola] ? had bought the ["Apocalypse Now"] rights so George could make it. He eventually got tired of waiting and did it on his own, of course.?
After the release of ?Empire? (which was shaped by material left over from that first Lucas treatment), talk turned to a third film and after a decade and a half the partners could no longer find a middle ground.
?We had an outline and George changed everything in it," Kurtz said. ?Instead of bittersweet and poignant he wanted a euphoric ending with everybody happy. The original idea was that they would recover [the kidnapped] Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he would then die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an Imperial base. George then decided he didn?t want any of the principals killed. By that time there were really big toy sales and that was a reason.?
The discussed ending of the film that Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as queen and Luke walking off alone ?like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns,? as Kurtz put it.
Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau.
He was especially disdainful of the Lucas idea of a second Death Star, which he felt would be too derivative of the 1977 film. ?So we agreed that I should probably leave.?
?I took a master class with Billy Wilder once and he said that in the first act of a story you put your character up in a tree and the second act you set the tree on fire and then in the third you get him down,? Kurtz said. ? ?Empire? was the tree on fire. The first movie was like a comic book, a fantasy, but ?Empire? felt darker and more compelling. It?s the one, for me, where everything went right. And it was my goodbye to a big part of my life.?
-- Geoff Boucher
Montana Smith said:Yep, Star Wars became a marketing dream. In the early days I was so in love with the concept of the movies that I wanted every Star Wars toy. And in the early days it was also possible to collect every single Star Wars figure - but now it's a case of which colour Clone Trooper do I need next? The pink one with yellow stripes or the yellow one with pink stripes?
The series began to lose it's charm from the moment the Ewoks appeared in ROTJ. The three prequels, though impressive visually, are cold, charmless, badly written facsimiles of the original trilogy. The completist in me picks out the best bits, but they can't compete with my nostalgia for the first three.
Rocket Surgeon said:It's pretty interesting to have some more filler to the comments we hear again and again: Harrison talking about the marketability of a "dead" action figure, ect...
Regarding collecting figures you're right as rain, for all but the most affluent, (or obsessive) the deluge has changed my SW collecting habits. The only "palete change" figures I go for are the R2s.
Save your money for the Indiana Jones Lightsaber and Indy Vader Two Pack Celebration Cinema Fight Scene(s).Montana Smith said:I remember going into toy shops and staring in wonder at the rack full of Star Wars figures, deciding which one I was going to buy that day. Now there are so many that it feels hopeless buying one at all. Since I'm no longer interested in keeping mint-in-packet figures, I just wait and see what turns up second hand, and take pot luck.
The same problem faces me with the 1/6 Sideshow figures: too many and too expensive!