Way of the dodo
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So Spielberg decided that between 1936 and 38 Indy changed to a different school but with an identical classroom filmed at the same location. Marcus even stands in front of the same pencil sharpener.
Udvarnoky said:I suspect then that it's either outtake footage or a digital manipulated version of what's in the Raiders print. I compared the two, and the people walking outside the school are identical. And the shot is still incredibly out of place both in terms of the lighting and the grain level when compared with the rest of Indy4.
Oh, man, you are absolutely right! It's the same shot digitally modified! Not only have the cars been changedStoo said:How did you compare the two? If the people walking are identical then the cars were a added as a composite.
I'll wait until I see the "Skull" shot again before commenting further.
Attila the Professor said:Right, because people never change educational institutions.
Who said these things had to be simple? There's a lot of substantiation for Barnett College being one of the places at which Indy has taught. You can't simply sweep it under the rug because you don't like it.
Stoo said:Oh, man, you are absolutely right! It's the same shot digitally modified! Not only have the cars been changed
but 2 students walking across the grass have been removed. Good eye, Udarnovky! Check out the detail, folks.
In a full screen comparison, you can see the trees haven't changed in over 20 years...
"Fans with too much time on their hands"... guilty!Marshall College is first depicted in the Indiana Jones films in "Raiders of the Lost Ark." It apparently was named for the film's producer, Frank Marshall. Dr. Henry Jones Jr., wearing glasses and a tweedy jacket, is depicted lecturing at a chalkboard. He's soon summoned out by a couple of Army intelligence officers who send him on his quest for the lost Ark of the Covenant.
According to fans who have tracked such things at theindyexperience.com, the professor's biography up to that point has him teaching at the University of London in 1925 right after grad school, getting fired in 1927 because he is depressed, accepting a teaching position at Princeton in 1930 and then winding up at Marshall College.
Most of this history is depicted in books about Indiana Jones, rather than in the movies.
By the third film of the series, "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade," he's teaching someplace called Barnett College. There's some disagreement among fans with too much time on their hands whether this is a new campus or, instead, Marshall-Barnett College.
Sample exchange on a fan site raven.theraider.net
Fan called "renderking fisk": "Sorry guys... It's Marshall-Barnett College."
Another fan called "junior jones": "I like that. Is that your theory or something official?"
A third fan called "lightning": "Although Marshall is the popular name for the college in Raiders, the name never appeared on screen. Barnett, on the other hand, did. Since the Indy's classroom is the same in both movies, (including the buildings visible through the window) I am forced to conclude that he taught at Barnett in both movies."
Nevertheless, in the new movie that debuted this weekend, he's on the staff at Marshall College.
That's the site of an extensive chase scene filmed at Yale.
Sankara said:So, we can clearly say: In the movies he is only at the Marshall College... and the Barnett College is "Expanded Universe" stuff... is has nothing to do with the movies. Now, we've got it! Great!
Sankara said:And THIS is the point exactly, Niteshade007: Lucas and Spielberg DON'T come up with this stuff.
According to the makers there is only ONE College: The Marshall College...
Thank you very much, Niteshade007!
Way of the dodo said:I guess you can argue the name if you want because they've been pretty flaky about it, but the important thing is it's meant (by Spielberg anyway) to be the same school in both.
Sankara said:Fact is: There is no freaking adress in the movie.
Sankara said:Show me an Interview with the makers about Indy and Marcus are switching between Marshall, Barnett and back to Marshall..
According to the diary prop from the computer game that coincided with the movie, Henry knew some of his son's exploits from newspaper articles, and therefore also of the nickname. He was insulted that his son had chosen the dog's name over the father's; but considering their relationship and Indy's feelings about "Junior," and the fact that none of Henry's other letters were ever replied to, he may well have given in just this once, to make sure Indy actually bothered to open it and find the diary.Sankara said:@Kooshmeister
Fact is: It's not in the movie! Do you really think Henry Jones Senior would wrote "Professor INDIANA Jones"??? *LOL*
"The fans?" "People who watched these movies?" Sorry, but what the heck do you think everyone on this board is?I'm sorry if that bothers you, but for me, most of the Fans, 99 Percent of the people who watched these movies AND the moviemakers there is only the Marshall College...
Sankara said:@Kooshmeister
Fact is: It's not in the movie! Do you really think Henry Jones Senior would wrote "Professor INDIANA Jones"??? *LOL*
Sankara said:Marcus didn't actually work at the college??? Source?
Ha ha. You're funny, Sankara. The address cannot be seen clearly in the movie but it is there.Sankara said:Fact is: There is no freaking adress in the movie.
As you know I read ALL Indiana Jones-Books about making these movies. I've never heard from the makers about Indy and Marcus are switching between Marshall, Barnett and back to Marshall.. AND I've never heard from the makers that Brody did not work for the college in "Raiders"...
Can't wait to see your sources about it....
Obviously not. You're getting an F on this assignment!Sankara said:@Stoo
Old news and nobody studied "Indiana Jones" harder than me!