indyclone25 said:wells it's nice to see that sam raimi will be in control of spidey 4 --- the first two were so well made ---not saying that spidey 3 was the worst movie i have ever seen --- but when they start throwing more and more villians it starts to be to much.
Something real stinky is beginning to pollute the production of Spider-Man 4, and it's hard not to worry about the eventual outcome. According to IESB, sources deep inside the production have informed them that all movement on the fourth installment has grounded to a halt because a) there doesn't appear to be a completed script yet, and b) the studio and director Sam Raimi can't seen to agree on a villain. The site claims that Raimi really wants Vulture to be his villain (hence the recent news that John Malkovich was being eyed for the role), but the studio wants any villain but Vulture (perhaps because they've since read the negative online reaction that popped up once the Vulture rumors began making the rounds).
And to further infuriate those who still actually care about this movie, apparently the title they've been using during pre-production is Spider-M4N. I know, it's painful, but we'll get through this together I promise. With all the hoopla going on, still no one has given us a clear-cut reason as to why they're not bringing this sucker full circle by making The Lizard Spidey's main villain. That's what makes the most sense, that's what the fans want and that's what would give Peter Parker the sort of personal battle that Raimi loves. That is, unless Lizard is already in there and Raimi is fighting for a second villain in Vulture -- perhaps to act as an instigator for Lizard like he was originally supposed to do for Sandman when the character was tossed around for Spider-Man 3.
Indy Scout 117 said:They really should have Carnage in SM4. I mean, Venom didnt get a big enough part in the movie; he is so bad ass and he only got to be seen later towards the end of the movie. LAME!!! so they should make up for that by using Carnage.
WHOA. As I mentioned earlier, Nikki Finke just recruited Variety’s chief newshound Mike Fleming, and now the new duo are coming out of the gate with a massive story. Their first big report is that Sony is scrapping Spider-Man 4 after script and schedule concerns caused Sam Raimi to walk away from the film. The scuttled sequel has already been confirmed by a Sony Pictures press release, and the studio will now go for a full franchise reboot. New director, new cast.
Finke and Fleming’s report says the decision was made just today, and that the studio will start over with a “franchise reboot” script by James Vanderbilt. They quote sources reporting that Raimi said he couldn’t make the picture’s 2011 release date and maintain quality standards.
The Sony press release offers more info. Shorn of back-patting quotes, the core info is as follows:
Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next Spider-Man hits theaters in the summer of 2012. Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilt that focuses on a teenager grappling with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises.
That means no Malkovich, no Vulture, no Vulturess, and no more Kirsten Dunst. Let’s see what Sony comes up with now; bets on a thinly-translated Ultimate Spider-Man adaptation? Reboot writer James Vanderbilt wrote an early draft of Spider-Man 4, and had been hired to write the presumptive fifth and sixth films.
When that deal for SM5 and 6 came down last August, the possibility of those scripts being the basis for a reboot was mentioned, so this isn’t an utter left-field surprise. Though a studio scrapping a film as potentially massive as Spidey 4 in favor of a reboot is still a huge deal; this is nothing like rebooting the Hulk, or Ghost Rider or Fantastic Four.
What next for Raimi? Will he go directly on to World of Warcraft, the Dennis Lehane adaptation The Given Day, or something else? (Another smaller film?) All things considered, you’ve got to guess that he and Tobey Maguire are both more happy than anything else to get away from increasingly difficult franchise.
ResidentAlien said:So thrilled to hear this **** got canned.
When I met Bruce Campbell the other year (and he called me a jackass!! ), he said that there was just no time for another Evil Dead what with Raimi doing Spiderman 4, 5 and 6 and his doing Burn Notice. Hopefully this will clear things up now...
indyrcks said:But why would Sony do this
DocWhiskey said:The script was god awful though. The studio made many changes that would've made Spider-man 3 look like The Dark Knight. So if that's true, I agree with Raimi. And I'm glad he walked away. Because it seems Spider-man 4 would've been a complete disaster.
DocWhiskey said:Reboot the franchise you mean?
Because a reboot means a fresh start, which means more movies, which means more MONEY.