Disney Disgust

Pale Horse

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Stoo said:
Anyway, I'm still in fog about your Goofy/bestiality comment. Care to elaborate?
Just the cow for a girlfriend as previously noted. Simply making conversation.

Atilla said:
In 2012/2013, would Disney fire an employee for making sex jokes about their characters?:confused:
Never heard of the incident. Looked it up, though I won't give the answer away. Interestingly, he seems to offer up two different accounts of why he was fired.

Can't be Lassater, he was fired though. I remember that from the Story of Pixar. Only Disney wasn't alive...still stumped here.

the Good Dr. said:
What an impeccable reply Stoo. The perfect soundtrack. Simply impeccable

So, Thanatosis and I were trying to find Altamont on Youtube. Long story short, we didn't. (in entirety anyway). Ehkneewho....

Street Fighting Man could only be the theme song, as they oft do for Bond films, as it's only one song, and not a full soundtrack. Unless of course you meant Beggars Banquet. In that case...I could do a whole treatment for Indy V based on the sequential song list therein.
 

Dr. Gonzo

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Ole' Pale Ale Horse said:
So, Thanatosis and I were trying to find Altamont on Youtube. Long story short, we didn't. (in entirety anyway). Ehkneewho....

So you found snippets then? Perhaps you can point me in the direction...

Wild Wild Horses said:
Street Fighting Man could only be the theme song, as they oft do for Bond films, as it's only one song, and not a full soundtrack. Unless of course you meant Beggars Banquet. In that case...I could do a whole treatment for Indy V based on the sequential song list therein.
Ah, indeed. Yes I suppose I meant just for the Altamont sequence... but having that whole album as the sound track for the entire film... capital idea.
Leave it to Horse to ramp it up another notch.

But now that I'm thinking about it, didn't the crazy bat **** violence begin while they were playing Sympathy For the Devil? (Which luckily happens to be on said album.)

Could be a fun treatment... wondering what kind of climax can be conjured with Salt of the Earth. :dead:

EDIT: Forget that request for Altamont footage. I actually found some footage and I don't think it would be kosher for this board.
 
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Stoo

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Attila the Professor said:
Never heard of the incident. Looked it up, though I won't give the answer away. Interestingly, he seems to offer up two different accounts of why he was fired.
Please tell, Attila! The question wasn't a quiz as I heard the story many years ago and have since forgotten who the animator was.
Wild Wild Horses... said:
Can't be Lassater, he was fired though. I remember that from the Story of Pixar. Only Disney wasn't alive...still stumped here.
If I remember correctly, it happened well after Walt died. Sometime in the '80s I believe. (Probably before Disney's movie about prostitution. How dare an employee make such disgusting remarks within Disney's squeaky-clean walls!:p)
...Couldn't Drag Me Away said:
Street Fighting Man could only be the theme song, as they oft do for Bond films, as it's only one song, and not a full soundtrack. Unless of course you meant Beggars Banquet. In that case...I could do a whole treatment for Indy V based on the sequential song list therein.
Like Gonzo, I meant just for Indy fighting with Hell's Angels. I'd like to read your Indy 5/"Beggars" treatment. Sounds fun.;)
Dr. Gonzo said:
Could be a fun treatment... wondering what kind of climax can be conjured with Salt of the Earth. :dead:
Maybe it would work this way:
"Stray Cat Blues" - climax
"Factory Girl" - dénouement
"Salt of the Earth" - end credits
Gonzo the Great said:
But now that I'm thinking about it, didn't the crazy bat **** violence begin while they were playing Sympathy For the Devil? (Which luckily happens to be on said album.)
Yes, it started during "Sympathy" but the killing was during "Under My Thumb". (I've also heard that Mick got punched in the face before they went onstage.)
 

Attila the Professor

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Stoo said:
Please tell, Attila! The question wasn't a quiz as I heard the story many years ago and have since forgotten who the animator was.
If I remember correctly, it happened well after Walt died. Sometime in the '80s I believe. (Probably before Disney's movie about prostitution. How dare an employee make such disgusting remarks within Disney's squeaky-clean walls!:p)

Here's what Wikipedia has:

[Harlan] Ellison was hired as a writer for Walt Disney Studios, but was fired on his first day after being overheard by Roy O. Disney in the studio commissary joking about making a pornographic animated film featuring Disney characters. He recounted this incident in his book Stalking the Nightmare, as part 3 of an essay titled "The 3 Most Important Things in Life". At a talk at the University of North Carolina-Greensboro, Ellison stated he was walking the halls of Disney and was bored, until he found a screwdriver, at which time he walked throughout the facility tightening every screw he saw until he was confronted in the basement. His termination came later that day.
 

Stoo

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Harlan Ellison, eh? I knew that it was someone well known. Thanks for finding the info, Attila.:hat:

That Wiki entry makes it difficult to tell what is true. It says that he was terminated the same day as the screwdriver incident but doesn't necessarily claim that it was the reason he was fired. Plus, he was bored and walking around the halls during his 1st day on the job? Huh?:confused: Did he work at Disney for 1 day or not?

If it was Roy who overheard Ellison's porno jokes, I'm assuming this must have been the late '60s/early '70s. I still wonder if being fired for such a thing would happen with today's Disney. Wasn't the word, 'sex', subliminally hidden amongst the clouds in "Aladdin" (1992) and a couple having sex in a background window in "The Rescuers" (1977)? Did anyone get fired for those PUBLIC instances?:confused:
 
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WilliamBoyd8

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Then there is the infamous 1966 hippie-era Disney poster called "Disney Memorial Orgy", drawn by Wally Wood of Mad Magazine.

:)
 
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Raiders90

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Stoo said:
Harlan Ellison, eh? I knew that it was someone well known. Thanks for finding the info, Attila.:hat:

That Wiki entry makes it difficult to tell what is true. It says that he was terminated the same day as the screwdriver incident but doesn't necessarily claim that it was the reason he was fired. Plus, he was bored and walking around the halls during his 1st day on the job? Huh?:confused: Did he work at Disney for 1 day or not?

If it was Roy who overheard Ellison's porno jokes, I'm assuming this must have been the late '60s/early '70s. I still wonder if being fired for such a thing would happen with today's Disney. Wasn't the word, 'sex', subliminally hidden amongst the clouds in "Aladdin" (1992) and a couple having sex in a background window in "The Rescuers" (1977)? Did anyone get fired for those PUBLIC instances?:confused:

The word "SFX" is written in the sky in Lion King--not SEX. It's a common mistake on people's part. In The Rescuers, there was a shot (a very very very brief--miliseconds long) photograph of a topless woman inserted into a building's window in a background as the main characters fly past. Some animator slipped it in there and it wasn't noticed until the VHS release-upon which it was immediately removed from future releases.
 

Stoo

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Raiders112390 said:
The word "SFX" is written in the sky in Lion King--not SEX. It's a common mistake on people's part.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this removed/changed because of public outrage & disgust, regardless of what the real letters were? (Disney bowing & scraping to squeaky-clean, political correctness?)

Raiders112390 said:
In The Rescuers, there was a shot (a very very very brief--miliseconds long) photograph of a topless woman inserted into a building's window in a background as the main characters fly past. Some animator slipped it in there and it wasn't noticed until the VHS release-upon which it was immediately removed from future releases.
Courtesy of Pale Horse (from the "Indiana Jones and the Disney Connection" thread - Post #66):
Pale Horse said:
The Rescuers (1977) - Gratuitous Sex
rescuers-nudity.jpg
Raiders112390 said:
Some animator slipped it in there and it wasn't noticed until the VHS release-upon which it was immediately removed from future releases.
Right. It was eventually removed. Did anyone get removed/fired for putting this in the film in the first place?:confused:
 

Raiders90

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Stoo said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this removed/changed because of public outrage & disgust, regardless of what the real letters were? (Disney bowing & scraping to squeaky-clean, political correctness?)

Courtesy of Pale Horse (from the "Indiana Jones and the Disney Connection" thread - Post #66):

Right. It was eventually removed. Did anyone get removed/fired for putting this in the film in the first place?:confused:

They didn't take it out, and you're being ridiculous. If they HAD taken it out, it wouldn't be bowing and scraping to political correctness, it'd be taking something out of a movie MEANT FOR CHILDREN that shouldn't be there.

Star Wars and Indy are owned by Disney.

DEAL. WITH. IT.

Stop the butthurt.
 

Finn

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Raiders112390 said:
Stop the butthurt.
Stop the temper tantrums.

Stoo said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this removed/changed because of public outrage & disgust, regardless of what the real letters were? (Disney bowing & scraping to squeaky-clean, political correctness?)
And you, stop agitating the kid. You know full well who you're dealing with and what kind of response you're baiting for. A grown man.
 

Stoo

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Finn said:
And you, stop agitating the kid. You know full well who you're dealing with and what kind of response you're baiting for. A grown man.
Bollocks. I've been asking the same types of questions to Attila & Pale (your fellow moderators). I'm trying to establish a point here through conversation & questioning and most certainly didn't expect Raiders112390's use of the term, "butthurt", (or whatever else you're finding objectionable) nor did I realize that I, alone, would be personally held accountable for his Disney-related tantrums.

And remember, there is a difference between physical growth & mental growth...and my mind hasn't fully matured yet.;)
Raiders112390 said:
They didn't take it out, and you're being ridiculous. If they HAD taken it out, it wouldn't be bowing and scraping to political correctness, it'd be taking something out of a movie MEANT FOR CHILDREN that shouldn't be there.

Star Wars and Indy are owned by Disney.

DEAL. WITH. IT.

Stop the butthurt.
Yes, 'political correctness' was the wrong term to use. 'Puritanical correctness' would be more suitable.

From the article that Smiffy linked to:
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www.anomalies-unlimited.com
"The Officially spewed explanation is that the letters were slipped in by a special effects group to form the abbreviation 'S-F-X' - for 'Special Effects'."
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"In fact, if it was an 'F', you think those madcap Special Effects guys would make damn sure nothing, oh nothing, got around that F to make it look like an 'E', because it would look like it said SEX! And who'd want that? This is Disney! And that would ruin the whole pat on the back to the SFX gang..."

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Sure looks like "SEX" to my eyes. What do y'all think?

LionKingSex-1.jpg


Instead of re-animating the "Lion King" scene, Disney supposedly tried to pass it off as "SFX" in their official explanation. Anyway, Raiders112390, you said that the nanosecond of nudity in "The Rescuers" was removed. How dare Disney change the original film (like Lucas did with "Star Wars")!

"Butthurt"?:confused:
 

Mickiana

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It's definitely "SEX". No doubt about it. As a prank, putting in a naughty word makes far more sense than some abbreviation/acronym.
 

Exulted Unicron

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To be honest, all the channels I watched growing up have either changed too much or don't exist anymore. I used to watch Fox Kids growing up which had a wide range of programmes like Power Rangers, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, MASK, X-Men, Fantastic 4, Iron Man, Spider-Man and Ghostbusters.

Cartoon Network isn't the same anymore either. Gone are the days of Cartoon Cartoons, Johnny Bravo, Cow & Chicken, Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Batman, Superman, Justice League, Dexter's Lab, I M Weasel and so much more.

Disney Channel and Nickleodeon have changed more as well. I barely recognise either channel these days. Gone are the days of the likes of Talespin, DuckTales, Kenan and Kel, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Clarissa Explains it all, Timon and Pumbaa, Chip n Dale's Rescue Rangers, 101 Dalmations, Recess, Cousin Skeeter, Hey Arnold, Doug and so much more.
 

Nurhachi1991

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I heard about this today. So 1313 is never coming out huh?


and I suppose Indy has been wiped clean from the face of the earth. Looks like the Nazi's one this time. :(
 
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