Bacon

Pale Horse

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roundshort said:
Ended a 2 week no bacon run this weekend before I went to the ball game, and wow, Bacon was even better than I remembered. I will not hold out on Bacon again!

Are you feeling masochistic? I made a homemade pizza last night with bacon, (canadian and american) and topped it with a nice zin....
 

VP

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Had a bacon burger today, too much mayo and not enough bacon. Also the fries were a bit tasteless.
 

roundshort

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Niteshade007 said:
I'm with you, but then again, I'm not really a fan of pig in any of its forms, living or dead.

Calling Joe Brody, Joe Brody ... Joe Brody

Baby don't dig on swine

Joe anything to say?
 

Joe Brody

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AL_Patterson said:
A 13 page topic about bacon...wow

This little observation from the Peach State is the one that caught my eye.

AL, you realize that Georgia is perhaps the finest swine state in the Union behind Arkansas and the Carolinas?

Roundshort where did that King hog get bagged?
 

roundshort

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Joe Brody said:
This little observation from the Peach State is the one that caught my eye.

AL, you realize that Georgia is perhaps the finest swine state in the Union behind Arkansas and the Carolinas?

Roundshort where did that King hog get bagged?

You would think Arkansas, gotta be, just gotta but NO! Hogzilla is a Georgia Dawg! But Hogzilla II or Monster pig was Alabama.
 

Matinee Idyll

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Yum.
 

Joe Brody

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For years I've been looking to the 'Other White Meat' as my fall back in case Mad Cow ever got out of hand. Now it looks like I'm going to have to make some contingency plans.

From the New York Times:

CHENGDU, China, Aug. 9 ? A highly infectious swine virus is sweeping China?s pig population, driving up pork prices and creating fears of a global pandemic among domesticated pigs.

Animal virus experts say Chinese authorities are playing down the gravity and spread of the disease.

So far, the mysterious virus ? believed to cause an unusually deadly form of an infection known as blue-ear pig disease ? has spread to 25 of this country?s 33 provinces and regions, prompting a pork shortage and the strongest inflation in China in a decade.

More than that, China?s past lack of transparency ? particularly over what became the SARS epidemic ? has created global concern.

?They haven?t really explained what this virus is,? says Federico A. Zuckermann, a professor of immunology at the University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine. ?This is like SARS. They haven?t sent samples to any international body. This is really irresponsible of China. This thing could get out and affect everyone.?

There are no clear indications that blue-ear disease ? if that is what this disease is ? poses a threat to human health.

Though the Chinese government acknowledges that the current virus has devastated pig stocks in coastal and southern areas, it has not admitted what experts say is clear: the virus is rapidly moving inland and westward, to areas such as this one in Sichuan Province, China?s largest pork-producing region.

?This disease is like a wind that swept in and passed from village to village,? said Ding Shurong, a 45-year-old farmer in a village near here who lost two-thirds of his pigs . ?I?ve never seen anything like it. No family was left untouched.?

No one knows for sure how many of this country?s 500 million pigs have been infected. The government says officially that about 165,000 pigs have contracted the virus this year. But in a country that, on average, loses 25 million pigs a year to disease, few believe the figures. In part, the skepticism comes from the fact that pork prices have skyrocketed 85 percent in the last year ? an increase that, absent other factors, suggests the losses from disease are more widespread than Beijing admits.

And there are other signs. Field experts are reporting widespread disease outbreaks. Fear among pig farmers that their livestock will contract the disease has led to panic selling. And the government and media here have issued alarming reports that farmers are selling diseased or infected pigs to illegal slaughterhouses, which could pose food safety problems.

International health experts are already calling this one of the worst disease outbreaks ever to hit Asia?s livestock industry, and they fear the fast-mutating pathogens could spread to neighboring countries, igniting a worldwide epidemic that could affect pork supplies everywhere.

A similar virus has already been detected in neighboring Vietnam and Myanmar, and health experts are trying to determine if it came from China.

Health experts say China has declined to send tissue samples to testing labs outside the country for independent verification by a lab affiliated with the World Organization for Animal Health in Paris.

The Chinese government says that it has reported the disease to international health bodies and insists that the disease is under control and that a vaccine has been developed and distributed.

But, some scientists say there is no truly effective vaccine against blue-ear pig disease (which is also known as porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome); other experts say they are not even certain that the blue-ear virus is the one that is spreading.

Scientists who track blue-ear pig disease are puzzled because the disease is generally not so deadly.

?This virus generally makes them ill but on its own it doesn?t cause a lot of deaths,? said Steven McOrist, a professor of pig medicines at the University of Nottingham in England. ?The evidence they put up so far is not conclusive.?

If it is blue-ear pig disease, which has infected most parts of the world, including the United States, it may be a new and more virulent strain.

?This is more severe than we?ve seen elsewhere,? said Derek Armstrong, a senior veterinary scientist at the Meat and Livestock Commission in Britain. ?It may be a co-infection of pigs with other things.?

The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization is now pressing China to share its research and tissue samples.

?I?ve asked my two vets in Beijing to work with the government and get some of those samples out,? said Juan Lubroth, head of infectious disease at the F.A.O., noting that China has reported its own findings on the disease. ?Our experience has shown us that working with carrots is better than working with sticks.?

Government scientists themselves said that last year the virus affected two millions pigs and killed 400,000. Here in Sichuan province, home to some 55 million pigs and one of the world?s most densely populated pig breeding areas, there is devastation. Many pig farmers say that what appears to be the blue-ear virus swept through this region in June and July, killing thousands of pigs.

?First they refused to eat, then they got high fever,? said Zhao Yanjun, 32, who lost all but 5 of his 150 pigs, just months after building a modern barn in Heishi village, about an hour?s drive southwest of Chengdu. ?Now, there?s nothing left.?

Liu Minghong, a 38-year-old farmer, said, ?Most of my pigs got hit in June and July ? 70 of them died.? sitting in a dusty house on the edge of his property, He pulled out a notepad that cataloged the demise of his pigs.

?I sold a lot out of panic,? he says.

Pig farmers who did not sell watched their pigs succumb to a disease that ate away at their insides in a matter of weeks, often turning the pig?s ear blue. In Mr. Liu?s barn, he pointed to one pig that was little more than a skeleton, shivering in a corner, struggling for life.

Now, slaughterhouses here go wanting.

?Last year we slaughtered 1,000 pigs a day; now we?re doing 100,? said Yuan Zi, a manager at the Qiyuan Meal slaughterhouse near the city of Qionglai. ?We?ve laid off nearly half the staff.?

Officials in Beijing worry that widespread pork shortages and soaring food prices could prompt panic, unrest or inflation, undermining a sizzling economy.

Trying to contain the damage, the government has announced a series of emergency measures, offering aid, incentives and free vaccines to farmers.

But the government has also warned against price gouging, and vowed to crack down on farmers selling diseased pigs, or injecting a pig with water to bolster its selling weight.

Still, many here say the problem is that pigs are simply in short supply, and it may take months if not a year or two to restock supplies, assuming the disease does not linger, as some scientists say it generally does.

Many experts, meanwhile, worry that China, which the F.A.O. says is the fourth-largest exporter of live and slaughtered hogs, could already be exporting the disease.

?This is already considered to be a threat to the global industry,? said Trevor Drew, head of virology at the Veterinary Laboratories Agency in Weybridge, in southeast England. ?It would be naïve to think we could contain this virus.?
 

roundshort

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Joe,
What do you expect, China, Sarge is full of lead, Barbies pooper scooper doesn't work. Hell what are your girls playing with that you are not sure off.

Buy some good Long meadow Ranch Bacon, I can personally say, that is healthy!
 

Violet

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Well, it's Friday tomorrow on the feature set so what will the caterers feed me? Bacon and eggs!
 

No Ticket

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I looked at the picture of those pigs on the last page and it made me realize that when I eat bacon I never really make the connection in my mind that it's a living animal, and a very peaceful one at that. Sure, I KNOW it's from an animal, but all I really see is the bacon, not that image of peaceful little critters on a farm.

To see those poor pigs go from that to a couple slices on my breakfast sandwich is kind of disheartening. :(

Reminds me of the song Pig by Weezer, about life on a farm from the pig's perspective. "When I was a baby, I was so happy I'd play with my friends in the mud."... talking about how he had fun when he was little with other pigs and animals. "I went around and talked to the animals, telling them stories of savage cannibals." The he falls in love... "Then I got older and noticed a girl, at first I was sure I didn't exist to her."

They get married and have kids and then this line comes in: "But nooooow I have to dieeeee. I've led a good life, I've got no complaints. I'd like to thank, farmer pete... for bringing me scraps of food so for that I could eat. He always had a smile on his face. He didn't want, to think of this day. It's finally here."

Poor guy gets slaughtered.

But maybe the farmer "always had a smile on his face" because he was thinking about bacon... :rolleyes:
 

roundshort

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Oh sure you are probably going to try and tell me that there is some "MAGIC" animal that gives us Bacon, pork chops and ham . . .




Thanks Simpsons
 

Vendetta08

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Joe Brody said:
AL, you realize that Georgia is perhaps the finest swine state in the Union behind Arkansas and the Carolinas?

Maybe...idk...I don't eat pork.

Now we've got 14 pages on the subject
 
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