Moedred said:So if he really took a crack at Indy 4 in 1998
Moedred said:I dismissed the Kasdan rumor at first as a fan's wishful thinking. But then theRaider cocreator Jawad Mir confirmed his Dreamworks source was reliable. It's not easy using the web archive and theRaider's outdated list of related sites to dig back to the 1990's. You can use my links to determine the legitimacy of each quote. I think that's all I can skim without a Nexis account, or the collective memories of fans over 25!
Moedred said:So if he really took a crack at Indy 4 in 1998, and made it a search for Eden through South America against the rival "Professor Conrad," could he have based such a character on the German botanist Conrad Moench (1744-1805)? He's a lesser figure than Belloc and would surely have been pulled from some encyclopedia of botanists, just speculatin'.
Pale Horse said:Those Cole paintings are a superb study in Chiaroscuro and entirely how I've seen it played out. Note particularly the ‘Rule of Four’ as it relates to Art in the linked thread.
Moedred said:Some Adventist art from, I think, a Stephen N Haskell book 100 years ago. You can count the Macguffins already used (no fourth nail here) and the one we've been talking about in this thread (it's not a plant).
It also reminds me of that Monty Python sketch:
Pope: "What in God's name possessed you to paint this with three Christs in it?"
Michelangelo: "It works, mate! The fat one balances the two skinny ones."
And from Richard Elliott Friedman:The cherubim, a common feature of ancient Near Eastern mythology, are not to be confused with the round-cheeked darlings of Renaissance iconography. The root of the term either means "hybrid" or, by an inversion of consonants, "mount," "steed," and they are the winged beasts, probably of awesome aspect, on which the sky god of the old Canaanite myths and of the poetry of Psalms goes riding through the air. The fiery sword, not mentioned elsewhere but referred to with the definite article as though it were a familiar image, is a suitable weapon to set alongside the formidable cherubim.
And W. Gunther Plaut:Sphinxes. Creatures of mixed species, frequently with the head of a human, the body of a four-legged animal, and the wings of a bird. Cherubs guard the path to the tree of life. Later, statues of cherubs will be placed over the ark, seemingly guarding its contents, which are sources of wisdom and righteousness, which in turn are pictured as ultimately the key to a return to the closeness with the deity that is lost here.
Why, then, is it so difficult to find images of flaming swords hovering outside Eden on their own volition?The function of these creatures, as stated in 3:24, is to secure the Garden of Eden from intrusion. ?The fiery ever-turning sword? is an additional and separate deterrent and not a weapon in the hands of the cherubim.
arkfinder said:The problem with the Tree of life is that it was burned up by Angels.
The Bible said:Then the Angel showed me Water-of-Life River, crystal bright. It flowed from the Throne of God and the Lamb, right down the middle of the street. The Tree of Life was planted on each side of the River, producing twelve kinds of fruit, a ripe fruit each month. The leaves of the Tree are for healing the nations. Never again will anything be cursed. ~ Revelations 22
Raiders112390 said:A question, as Pale Horse and Moedred seem to know a bit about the esoteric and art:
It's off topic but:
Is there anything from the occult that any of the items in these rooms would pertain to, and what art style could this be described as: