JasonMa said:Lucasfilm also said the whole Expanded Universe was Star Wars canon, until Disney decided otherwise.
Can you expand on that?Face_Palm said:Incorrect.
JasonMa said:Can you expand on that?
That's similar, but not exactly, how I heard it. Essentially as I understood it everything in the Expanded Universe was canon, but Lucas/Lucasfilm said that none of that would limit whatever stories they would tell so if future movies or TV caused an Expanded Universe story to fall out of canon, so be it.dr.jones1986 said:Lucas in regards to Star Wars was always very firm that only the ideas that he was responsible for such as the movies and cartoon shows were canon. I have seen in several interviews where he said that even though the writers, game designers etc were given approval to create these licensed stories they did not necessarily represent his vision. He saw the Expanded Universe as a place to borrow ideas from which he did, such as the Wookiees and Trandoshans living in the same star system and their dislike for each other, the names for the planet Coruscant and Dathomir which was home to force using witches. I know some writers got annoyed with this because the Clone Wars cartoon contradicted earlier books and other material. Since selling to Disney all that material is no longer canon except the films and the Clone Wars show and they now have the Lucasfilm Story Group keeping a very neat direction of the naraitive in the new Star Wars stories in all media forms.
JasonMa said:That's similar, but not exactly, how I heard it. Essentially as I understood it everything in the Expanded Universe was canon, but Lucas/Lucasfilm said that none of that would limit whatever stories they would tell so if future movies or TV caused an Expanded Universe story to fall out of canon, so be it.
That's a bit different than what Disney did (IMO) which was to immediately remove everything from canon and restart.
Regardless, the idea that something Lucas said years ago now limits what Disney will or won't do with Indy is ridiculous. Unless that was written into the contract signed when Disney bought Lucasfilm (and I believe we would have heard about it by now if it had been) all bets are off.
dr.jones1986 said:I think it is impossible to guess what direction they will go until we see what future Disney has planned for Indy. If they plan on ending it with Indy 5 or passing the torch on to an apprentice type character than they will probably leave the earlier expanded adventures alone. If after Indy 5 they recast and tell stories about Indy's earlier days they may discard the old expanded adventures as they did with Star Wars. I would love to see the Lucasfilm Story Group play a role in the future direction to keep the timeline organized as they are doing with Star Wars. In the past there have been too many examples of Indy going after the same artifact twice, contradicting dates in the timeline between different stories etc. I like that aspect of what they are doing with Star Wars.
Face_Palm said:Exactly. This reminds me of the 3-4 different stories in the Star Wars EU about how the Death Star plans were actually stolen. It was confusing and down right annoying. Thank god everything is much more streamlined now.
Tibor said:The novels that had Han and Leia with three kids (twins and another) were sort of wiped away by the subsequent movie that show only one kid named Ben who goes to the dark side. Some of the rest (Grand Admiral Thrawn and his minions) could maybe be rationalized into the time gap between episodes 6&7 including Luke's Jedi academy.
I have to admit that I thought the Resistance looked awfully wimpy compared to the New Republic of the books."
Anyway, back to Indy 5, they'll film in 2018 so it's a year difference. Yes, we could lose him to a real life mishap, but Harrison looks like he can hold together for 12 months or so and get back in front of the camera. Besides, can't wait to hear him say "Honey, it's the years AND the mileage".
Face_Palm said:I happened to do some research today and hopefully this puts everyone's mind a little more at ease!
Anyway, Harrison's real life father lived until he was 92 - which is a good sign for Harrison.
Why can't it be the reverse of the opening of Last Crusade? We see Indy "in media res" in an action scene, conveniently filmed in a way to cover for Harrison's age, then we transition to a flashback that sets up the story. Do that a couple of times during the movie, maybe with a longer Harrison piece that's less action-oriented in the middle. We don't need Harrison Indy sitting in a rocking chair the whole movie but it can be filmed in a way to give us the "illusion" of an active Indy, introduce the new "young Indy", and deal with the fact that Harrison can't realistically carry a whole Indy action film.Raiders112390 said:Does anyone really, really in their hearts want to see an Indiana Jones movie where Harrison Ford's Indy is confined to the role of the Narrator, or confined to short segments with either an assistant or his grandkids where he's basically telling the story the way George Hall did in the Young Indy series? Where his partaking in any action is nil, and he's just an old fogie telling stories of his youth? Is that REALLY the note we want to leave his version of the character on?
Tibor said:Pretty sure Harrison can do plenty of action scenes better than most of us on this forum... I haven't seen him sitting in rocking chairs and sipping tea in real life; just a tough, fit guy with some mileage, flys planes and copters, survives and heals from injuries most people would do much worse with. Geeze folks, he's doing fine.
I sure as hell wouldn't want to get in a fist fight with him.